1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, Matzakowski's shocking 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: first Date. The nominees for the twenty twenty five TikTok 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: Awards are unveiled, and Molly May admits to having ongoing 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: trust issues in her relationship. But first, Chloe Zepp has 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: revealed her son's pet snake has gone missing. The OG 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: influencer joked her house was for sale after the python 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: escaped from the garage earlier this week. Gay Oh, I 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: feel on edge just thinking about this situation. It's not 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: even my house. The snake in question is fortunately not venomous, though, 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: but is known to buy. So this thing's already bitten 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: the children, well, it has. Awkwardly, Chloe and Mitch revealed 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: I think was last month that the snake had bitten Artie. 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: So they got it for Artie's fifth birthday, and they 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: documented the moment where they surprised him with the snake. Now, 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: just to refresh your memories, he's five years old, and 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: as someone who hates snakes, this freaked me out. So 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Mitch came in with this little bag with the snake 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: in it, and you could tell Chloe was ultra uncomfortable. 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: She even said she was a little bit scared. And 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: then he gets Artie to pick the snake out of 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: the bag while his little brother Sonny is screaming and 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: carrying on. I'm like, surely this is not good for 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: the snake. I assume that this snake is going to 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: appear in the family's new YouTube channel because they recently 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: announced that they're going to have an adventure YouTube account. 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: Well maybe they're documenting this whole thing. I mean, the 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: snake can't really be in the channel if it's gone missing, 30 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: because Chloe said she had searched everywhere for Firebolt, that's 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: its name, and it was nowhere to be seen. Do 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: you reckon this snake's really gone missing or maybe Chloe 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: and Mitch have got rid of it. Well, the snake 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: didn't really look happy living in their house, because Mitch 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: shared this clip of Artie wanting to say good night 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: to it, and he got this little set of keys 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: out to open the door to give it a pat 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: or something, and Mitch soomed up and the snake was 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: literally Poe to strike and Artie was like, oh, he doesn't. 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: He's all coiled up. I don't think I should pat him. 41 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh my god, don't pat him at all. Yeah. 42 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: I think if this was my child's pet, I'd be like, oh, sorry, 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: they've gone off to live at a farm somewhere, far, 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: far away, because oh my god, I couldn't think of 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: anything worse. I mean, it's not ideal that the snake 46 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: is just loose in the house now, like God knows 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: what it's plotting. 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: Good morning, Anna, We're just having some off air chats 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: which can stay off air. Where's your head? 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: Ash Matsakowski has hosted on speculation that he's moved on 51 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: from his ex wife Tammy Hembro, confirming on his podcast 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: that he's still single. The revelation comes less than two 53 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: weeks after a photo of him on a date in 54 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: Adelaide went viral. Tate it seems like Matt was left 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: just as surprised as everyone else by the hard launch. Yeah, 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: it's pretty awkward because it turns out that he and 57 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: Adelaide girl Emily Lawson were on a first date. So 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: to refresh everyone's memories, the internet went into overdrive when 59 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: photos emerged of Matt doing a mirror selfie in front 60 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: of an elevator with Normie Emily. Now it was actually 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: Emily who posted the selfie to her public Instagram story, 62 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: alongside photos of their dinner and also a video of 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: fireworks from a rooftop bar. Influence updates Au first broke 64 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: the story after receiving a tip off from someone who 65 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: saw Emily's story, and it was pretty clear that Emily 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: and her friends were very excited to be part of 67 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: the Influence the goss Heaps of them were commenting on 68 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: subsequent social media stories about it and tagging Emily we 69 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: reckon that Emily sent it inner. Wow. I feel like 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: the more I hear about it, it could be a possibility. 71 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean, who takes a picture together on the first date. 72 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm putting it out there. I have never ever taken 73 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: a photo on a first date. I wouldn't take a 74 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: photo with someone until we were official, and I definitely 75 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't be posting it all over Instagram. I mean, this 76 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: wasn't a little soft launch where maybe you post that 77 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: you're out and about and you have their arm in 78 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: the shop. This was a full blown selfie with it. Yeah. 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean I thought the same thing about it being 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: weird taking a photo on the first date. But according 81 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: to Matt's co host Anna McAvoy, she thinks it's quite normal, 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: and she said that she always takes a photo on 83 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: the first date just in case they end up together. 84 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: She actually has one from her first date with her 85 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: husband Michael. Yeah. But there's also a difference between taking 86 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: a photo and also making that photo public. One, it 87 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: would be embarrassing for the person you're on the date 88 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: with to see said photo on your Instagram, because it's 89 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: like you're telling everyone a look, we're dating. 90 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 91 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: And secondly, when the person has a public profile and 92 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: they've only just broken up with their wife, you think 93 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: you might be a bit careful about sharing that. It 94 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: seems like a bit of cloud chas thing's going on. 95 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I mean, initially when I saw it, 96 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay. The fact that Emily Lawson 97 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: felt confident enough to upload the photo, I was like, 98 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: surely this is something quite serious, not a first date. 99 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: He's come out to see her in Adelaide, you know, 100 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: they're doing long distance or something. But listening to Matt, 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: I got the vibe that it was a first and 102 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: last date, and I don't really bl I would probably 103 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: be questioning someone's motives if they did that on a 104 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: first day. Well, on a recent podcast he was on, 105 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: he was asked about how he finds dating now that 106 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: he has a public profile and whether he has to 107 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: be careful about people using him for fame. Evidently, it 108 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: sounds like he does have to be a bit more careful. 109 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: It would be strange for Matt to be on the 110 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: other side of things now because Tammy Hembro basically called 111 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: him macloud chaser herself on a podcast interview last week, 112 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: so you know, it seems to come around in full circles. 113 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: Listening to the podcast, it was clear that Matt had 114 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: had this massive debrief off Mike about the whole situation 115 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: with Anna, because he said he's been dropping bombs off air. 116 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm very sad that they edited those conversations out because 117 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: I would have loved to hear them. In terms of 118 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: what they did share on air about the situation, you 119 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 1: could tell Anna was completely shocked when the photos emerged. 120 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what she said. We need 121 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: to talk Yah, right because. 122 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: The sleep deprived mum. I was just looking on their 123 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: phone and I think I'm pretty sure it was in 124 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: the middle of the night and I hadn't been on 125 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: my phone like the day before, and then all of 126 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 3: a sudden, I see so much garbage on the inn. 127 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna call it garbage. 128 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: And everyone's like, that's hard launch. 129 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: Wait. 130 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: I know that you were in Adelaide. I know that 131 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: you were going on a first day. How have we 132 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: gone from you telling me you're going on a first 133 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: day to now there's a hard launch out there. 134 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I was shook as well. I actually woke 135 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: up and saw that that as well, and I was like, 136 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: hang on wait what. I was like, I didn't hard 137 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: launch anyone. 138 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: No. 139 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: So I was in Adelaide on getting some business done, 140 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: and while I was there, I was like, I'll catch 141 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: up with a friend. Yeah, so we went out for dinner. 142 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 2: Really nice. Adelaide is actually a really nice place. 143 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: A little bit off track, but it was really nice 144 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: to hear both Matt and Anna talk so glowingly of Adelaide. 145 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: It was quite rare from Victorians. It is. I related 146 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: to Anna saying that she's going through a four month 147 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: regression at the moment, and it took her days to 148 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: even see the news of this hard launch happen, and 149 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: in the midst of a late night wake up call 150 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: she saw it. It sort of reminded me of when 151 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: I first saw the news of Taylor Swift and Travis 152 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: Kelsey getting together, only because I was up at three 153 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: am to see that news be broken live, so she 154 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: was a bit later to the story though. Yeah, it 155 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: seems like with newborn schedules, either the first or last 156 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: to hear about this type of pop option years. I'd 157 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: love to know the conversation Matt had with his date 158 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: Emily after her Instagram story made headlines. I'm guessing he 159 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: thought she was never going to post it, because he 160 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: explained that the photo got snapped while he and Emily 161 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: were waiting at the Lifts to go to the second 162 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: rooftop bar that they had visited. Anna did make a 163 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: bit of a dig, saying that that photo should have 164 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: been kept on her close friend's list, which I tend 165 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: to agree. It was clear that Matt wanted to clear 166 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: things up and let the world know that he's single. 167 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: This is what he said. 168 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I woke up the next day and we'd hard launched, 169 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: which is not the case and not the case at all, 170 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: but yeah, it was pretty funny to see. 171 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: So she just put it in her story and then 172 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: it got taken. 173 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: Got taken, and yeah, if people work fast this industry, 174 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: they see something and they run with it and it 175 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: gets legs and look, I'm actually gonna say I would. 176 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: I really appreciate some of the kind messages I got 177 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: about it, but sorry, guys still thinking it was not 178 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: that at all. But I'm very nice girl as well, 179 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: very nice, nice day. 180 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 1: I wonder if Matt's got a few girls on the 181 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: roster who were like what the fuck when they saw 182 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: the photo. I feel like that would be a big 183 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: motivated to clear the rumor's up. I also think in 184 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: terms of how he's faring since the divorce, as we've 185 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: touched on before, he has this new puppy dog energy 186 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: about him. People seem to be liking Matt. He's receiving 187 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: a lot of apologies, and he probably wants to not 188 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: look like he's moved on too quick and is mindful 189 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: of that. 190 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 191 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: Well, in yesterday's episode of Wears Your Head at they're 192 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: doing this thing where they dissect and I use that 193 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: term loosely some headlines, and one of the headlines they 194 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: chose to discuss was one about Matt caught out crying 195 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: after Tammy was found to be the ambassador for Tinder, 196 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: and He's like, oh my god, this is completely false. 197 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: I actually was crying because I watched a movie about 198 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: a golden retriever and he was saying I definitely was 199 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: not crying about Tammy Hembro. So he seems more and 200 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: more comfortable to talk about the situation. I mean, he 201 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: didn't name it. They just kept saying his ex wife. 202 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: But I think it is only a matter of time 203 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: before we hear a full breakdown of what's gone on. 204 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: Guys. 205 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: I mention that I've been nominated for TikTok Creator of 206 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: the Year. The nominees for the twenty twenty five TikTok 207 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Creator of the Year are in and Tammy Hembro is 208 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: the front runner. Did that surprise you it, Dick, because 209 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't really think of her as being a TikToker 210 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: as such. I just think of her as being an 211 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: all round influencer, if that makes sense. I think that 212 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: on TikTok there's a lot of different niches and she's 213 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: just sort of a personality, if that makes I get 214 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: what you mean. But she does have over two million 215 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: followers on the platform, and she posts very different content 216 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: than she does on Instagram. I mean, she didn't even 217 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: post her divorce announcement on Instagram. That was purely on TikTok. Yeah, 218 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: but when you think about people who've won in the past, 219 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: like Anna Paul or Indy Clinton, they've really made a 220 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: name for themselves on TikTok through sharing everyday vlogs, whereas 221 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: she made a name for herself obviously on Instagram ten 222 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. 223 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 224 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: But in saying that having a big following on Instagram 225 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: doesn't promise you a big following on TikTok, Like, there 226 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: are so many creators like just off the top of 227 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: my head, Sarah's Day, Steph Claire Smith who do not 228 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: have the same following that they do on TikTok as 229 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: they do on Instagram. In saying that, I suppose Tammy 230 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: has around seventeen eighteen million followers on Instagram and only 231 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: two million on TikTok, But I think her videos are 232 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: cutting through. I mean they get millions and millions of views. Yeah. Well, 233 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: as you said, Kate, she always seems to be dropping 234 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: bombs on there. Yeah, I mean, I think she's definitely 235 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: going to win this award just looking at her following 236 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: against the other nominees. The only one I'm actually familiar 237 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: with is Letitia Clark. Her mum is kat Clark, who 238 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: won the award three years ago. But I think Tammy 239 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: is a definite shoe in. It is voted on by 240 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: the public, and she's already put the call out on 241 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: an Instagram page saying you can vote once a day. 242 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: I wonder though, if some of the smaller creators have 243 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: more of an invested community of people who want to 244 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: see them do well. Quite often people don't really want 245 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: to see the big dog win, and Tammy feels like 246 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: the big dog in this situation. Yeah, but I think 247 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: TikTok probably want her to win, and of course they're 248 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: in charge of the algorithm, so her video promoting the 249 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: link to vote for her might appear to a lot 250 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: more people than the other nominees. Who knows, but I 251 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: definitely think we'll see her accepting the award. It's interesting 252 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: it was only a couple of weeks ago that Indy 253 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: Clinton opened up about that viral moment of her and 254 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: Anna Paul presenting Creator of the Year. It was an 255 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: absolute mouzzle. So for those who missed it, let's throw 256 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: to it. There were absolutely crickets afterward. They was all 257 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: very awkward, and Indy opened up about the experience on 258 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: the Happy Hour podcast with Lucy and Nicki a couple 259 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and it turns out that Anna Paul 260 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: had been chosen over Indy to present the award, and 261 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: that was despite the fact that Indy won the year prior. 262 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: So as the winner, you then get the honor of 263 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: presenting the new win it with their award. Yeah, Indy 264 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: said she'd been looking forward to having that moment on 265 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: stage and she was actually one of the hosts of 266 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: the awards alongside Robert Erwin and Kat Clark, and so 267 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: last minute it seems like the event organizers were like, Okay, 268 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: you can go on stage with Anna Paul. Reading between 269 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: the lines, it seems like Anna Paul dropped past the 270 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: rehearsals briefly for around ten to fifteen minutes, but that 271 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: wasn't long enough for them to actually rehearse the moment. 272 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: Indy had been there all day, so minutes before the 273 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: award was presented. Indy was like quickly whispering to Anna, like, 274 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: let's make it more dramatic ad pauses, but Anna ended 275 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: up reading straight from the autocue. Do you reckon that? Indie? 276 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: Feels safe now to tell that story considering the huge 277 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: cancelation of Anna Paul this year, because before she was 278 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: seen as the sweetheart of TikTok and people would have 279 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: come for her to hear anything negative. Yeah, I definitely 280 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: think so. I mean it was actually at the twenty 281 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: twenty four TikTok Awards that the crack started appearing for 282 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Anna Paul. Remember she was on the red carpet and 283 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: she said this really tone deaf comment when they asked 284 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: her like who would you want to be? Like what 285 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: created would you want to be? And she's like, oh, 286 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: someone that has lots of money and flies around the world, 287 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: and like, isn't that you already? I wonder if she's 288 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: actually going to show up this year. It could be 289 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: a bit of a rebranding exercise for her. Yeah, well 290 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: we have to wait until Wednesday, the twenty sixth of 291 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: November to see if that happens. The Awards are being 292 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: hosted in Sydney this year, Sophie Monk is the host. 293 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: She is about to start hosting Love Island Australia. Are 294 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: you gonna watch that? I'm not really a big fan 295 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: of the Aussie version. I prefer to what the UK 296 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: Love Island. That being said, the UK version has been 297 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: pretty disappointing in recent years, and a lot of people 298 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: send us dms saying, oh my god. Last year the 299 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: Australian version was epic. You need to watch it again 300 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: this year? Hang on Love Island this year was really good. 301 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? It wasn't as good. It 302 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: wasn't as good. I don't think it was. To be fair, 303 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: it was a little bit better. But I've watched so 304 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: many all Stars which have been disappointed. Good. Look. I 305 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: actually feel like it's a moment for you to eat 306 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: your words, because a couple of weeks ago you were 307 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: absolutely ripping into me about watching the Block. You're finally 308 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: watching it and loving it. Yeah, it's my relaxation show now, 309 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: Brandon and I. As soon as Luke has been put 310 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: to bed, we quickly put the Block on for a 311 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: couple of hours because we have all of the episodes 312 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: to catch up on. So jealous. I love it. It's 313 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: I haven't watched free to air television for a while, 314 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: and yes it can be a bit overproduced and dramatic, 315 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: but it's sort of the trash that I needed at 316 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: the moment, and I kind of like it sounds good bad. 317 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: I like that it's got ads because you've got your 318 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: time where you can be on your phone and then 319 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: you can put it back down. I'm really interested to 320 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: see how the block auctions go on Sunday night because 321 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: my dad, who also watches it, was telling me that 322 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: there are some whispers that the houses aren't going to 323 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: sell because they're just far too expensive for the Dalsford market. 324 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll have to do a full block recap. Look 325 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: at me absolutely eating my words here now. 326 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 327 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: Some whople message us saying that they love it, so 328 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, maybe I have to give it 329 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: a go. Yeah, I'm going to put it out there. 330 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: If the houses end up selling, I'm tipping Britain TAZ 331 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: for the win. 332 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: It's just this like shadow of the past that will 333 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: always just sounds really deep, but like kind of come 334 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 4: back and I'll warn. 335 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: Us a bit. 336 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: The second series of Molly May's docuseries Behind It All 337 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: has shone a light on the current state of her 338 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: relationship with boxer Tommy Fury. Whilst the couple rekindled their 339 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: relationship earlier this year, the UK influencer admits she has 340 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: ongoing trust issues and is haunted by ghosts of the past. 341 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: Before we dive into that sofa, I want to hear 342 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the docuseries as a whole. I loved 343 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: every second of this. I don't think it will surprise anyone. 344 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: As a Molly May stand, I couldn't get enough of it. 345 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: It was this real cross between a fly on the 346 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: wall reality show and a documentary series. I think that 347 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: they managed to get that cozy, day to day vibe 348 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: that Molly has in her vlogs, whilst also having just 349 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: the right level of drama and conflict to get you hooked. 350 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: I feel like a terrible Molly may fan because I 351 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: need to call myself out. I actually haven't watched a 352 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: single second of it. I've seen a few reviews of 353 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: it on TikTok and people have been saying, oh, it's 354 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: no good, Like she's not likable, she's really out of touch, 355 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: and that's rattled me because I'm like, I loved the 356 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: first series of it, and I've actually been waiting to 357 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: make a bit of a night of it and watch 358 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: it with some nice snacks. I just haven't had that 359 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: moment so far. Yeah, but this show was literally made 360 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: for MOLLI may stands. It wasn't made for the critics, 361 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: and I think that people are being particularly critical of 362 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: it now that it won all the previous series won 363 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: an award. I think also because it's a docu series, 364 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: like people are taking it too seriously and like, oh, 365 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: this isn't an David Attenborough documentary. It's like no, it's 366 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: just behind the scenes of her life. Like it's a 367 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: documentary of her life. It's sort of an elevated version 368 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: of her vlogs because it does really show her day 369 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: to day life and it really goes into her experiences 370 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: with motherhood and also her business ventures and of course 371 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: the ups and downs of her relationship with Tommy, which 372 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: everyone wanted to find out about. See. I think there's 373 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: not as much hype about this series as there was 374 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: the first series because there were still a lot of 375 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: question marks about the status of Tommy and Molly's relationship, 376 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: whereas we now know they're back together and personally I'm 377 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: not that interested in Molly's brand. Maybe I like the 378 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: second series better than the first so far because I 379 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: think there was a lot of patting happening with the 380 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: maybe content. We were expecting to hear a lot about 381 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 1: Molly and Tommy's relationship, but instead we got this whole 382 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: brand opportunity and the brand pushed down our throats, whereas 383 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: it feels more organic when the brand has been mentioned 384 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: so far in these first three episodes. I wonder if 385 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: it was a case of they filmed all this content 386 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: that didn't make Tommy look very good, and then suddenly 387 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Molly and him got back together and they couldn't use 388 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: it like it didn't make sense in the story arc. 389 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: It's interesting though, because in this later series the relationship 390 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: with Tommy and Molly doesn't really look very rock solid, 391 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: does it. 392 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 393 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: In this later series, she hinted that there are continuing 394 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: trust issues between her and Tommy, and this was made 395 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: very apparent when she went on a beach holiday to 396 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: Wales with her best friend and their two kids. So 397 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: while she was away with Bambi, Tommy was back home 398 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: in Manchester celebrating the release of his BBC documentary with 399 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: his mates, and I wonder if Molly purposely went away 400 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: during the launch of his doco so they weren't heaps 401 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: of questions about where she was, so she could just say, oh, well, 402 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: I've had this pre booked before. That's why I'm not 403 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: on the red carpet with it. Well, they did end 404 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: up having quite an awkward exchange over the phone. Let's 405 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: throw to that clip. 406 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 4: No, it's just fustranging. I just feel like, you know, 407 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: things are going to roar me up. Tommy. You think 408 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: I don't know you after six years? What are you 409 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: talking about? I'll speak to you another time. 410 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: That's that Mollie ended up hanging up on Tommy and 411 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: told the cameras that she doesn't want to be a 412 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: bore and Tommy should be able to do his thing. 413 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: That gave me the vibe that Tommy has been gaslighting 414 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: her because I think she is well within her rights 415 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: to be nervous about the fact that he's going to 416 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: be out partying with his friends and there's alcohol around. 417 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Because at the end of the last series, while she 418 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: took him back, there seemed to be really no resolution 419 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: about his behavior and nothing had seemed to change that much. 420 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: It was just sort of like, oh, we're back together 421 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: because we love each other. It was evident that he 422 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: was on the piss there because she admitted that hearing 423 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: the word alcohol made her tense. I mean, we didn't 424 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: actually hear Tommy's side of the conversation. He has only 425 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: appeared in this documentary as a pop up on FaceTime. 426 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: He didn't actually appear on camera. Well, I wonder if 427 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: it's because of his own documentary and the BBC, like 428 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: maybe they've said you can't appear on the Prime one. Well, 429 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: it's interesting because a lot of people are reading into 430 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: this line that Molly said. She said that she's haunted 431 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: by ghosts of the past. Now, there were a lot 432 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: of rumors when she and Tommy broke up that he 433 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: had cheated on her, and there was actually also a 434 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: rumor that he'd got a girl pregnant. Now that was 435 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: actually bullshit that one. But people are saying, well, has 436 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: he cheated If you're saying you're being haunted by ghosts 437 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: of the past and there's these ongoing trust issues, I 438 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: don't think that you can have a docuseriies like this 439 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: if you're not going to be completely honest about the 440 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: whole situation, Like, yes, it was very brave of Tommy 441 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: to share about his issues with alcohol, but I almost 442 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: feel like it was used as a little bit of 443 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: an excuse to cover up anything else that has gone 444 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: down between them, because it's clear there are still issues 445 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: there that haven't been resolved. Yeah, I can see why 446 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: they haven't wanted to touch on it considering they have 447 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: got back together. Though. What was very clear is just 448 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: how tough this breakup has been on Molly. She said 449 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: that she suffered panic attacks and made the decision to 450 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: go on anti anxiety medication. So she's now on Beata blockers, 451 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: which essentially slow her heart rate down and also lower 452 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: her blood pressure. Now, a clip of Molly's manager, Fran 453 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: has gone viral. Basically she's giving her a right bollocking 454 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: about not creating promotional content for a brand, which was 455 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: pretty surprising because Molly May is one of the UK's 456 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: biggest influencers and I think she does brand content very 457 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: well well. This actually happened on the same beach trip, 458 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: so Molly forgot to bring the product with her and 459 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: instead of being upfront with Fran, she actually had previously 460 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: lied to Fran and said that she'd already shot it, 461 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: and then she disappeared for three days and didn't answer 462 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: any of Fran's call. So, as you said, okay, Fran 463 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: went ballistic. She is a bit of a ball breaker. 464 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: She was not happy they showed her on FaceTime and 465 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: she told Molly that she'd let people down and that 466 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: it's not like her and it was just really awkward. 467 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: So Molly ended up having to pack up all of 468 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: their stuff leave this trip early, and she actually said 469 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: to the camera crew, look, I know that you want 470 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: to capture the chaos of us packing everything up, but 471 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: we're not going to get out of here on time 472 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: if you don't help. So everyone put the cameras down. 473 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: But yeah, it did seem a bit out of character 474 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: for her, and Fran was saying, oh, I'm just worried 475 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: that you're too burnt out, Molly. You're trying to be 476 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: the best partner, you can be the best mum, that 477 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: you can be the best business owner, and there's cracks appearing. 478 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: It was also an interesting insight into molly relationship with Fran. 479 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: They have referred to each other as their best friends. 480 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: Molly was a bridesmaid in friend's wedding, but clearly the 481 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: foundation of their friendship is business, and Fran has to 482 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: have these tough conversations with her. I mean she's wanting 483 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: her ten percent cut, isn't she. I mean, I'm sure 484 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: the Brown deal was massive. 485 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 486 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: Well, something else we learned in this stocco is that 487 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: Molly and Tommy are still living separately. So right before 488 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: their breakup, they purchased a home which they dubbed their 489 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: forever home. It sounds like it's a ridiculous mansion and 490 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: they were actually set to move in, but then suddenly 491 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: broke up and Tommy ended up moving into that brand 492 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: new house, whereas Molly still lives in the house. I 493 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: think is it called Molly Mason? Is that what they 494 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: call the house? Ma? Maison? Sorry? And since then, Bambi 495 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: has been going between the two houses, and Molly admitted 496 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: that despite the couple now being back together, Bamby probably 497 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: feels like her parents are living these very separate lives. 498 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: And in this scene where her sisters Zoe, whose side 499 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: note we need more in the documentary because she was 500 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: really the standout star, well, I wonder if she has 501 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: purposely recluded a little bit after getting backlash of being 502 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: two in Molly's business, and also she didn't hide the 503 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: fact that she's not Tommy Feury's biggest fan in the 504 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: first series. So now that they're back together, she's taken 505 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: a bit of a back seat. I mean, she has 506 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: moved in with Molly since then, but it seems like 507 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: she's just looking after the house when Molly's not there. Well, 508 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: Zoe and her husband Danny, they are moving out of 509 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: the house soon and they are moving into their own 510 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: house that they've built, and Molly was saying that she 511 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: doesn't know what to do with her current house going forward. 512 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: She says she doesn't want to sell it and she 513 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: doesn't want to rent it out because the house has 514 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: become her safety blanket. She said, it means that she's 515 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: able to remove herself from a situation with Tommy if 516 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: she needs to. I mean, the fact that you need 517 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: a backup mansion in case you have a fight just 518 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: tells me that your relationship is not in a good plaace. Yeah. 519 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: She described it as not wanting to put all of 520 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: her eggs in one basket and said that it would 521 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: be scary to get rid of the house because with 522 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: Tommy she never knows what tomorrow is going to bring 523 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: and she gets really inky. She just thinking that she 524 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: might wake up to this big problem that she can't 525 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: remove her so from. It didn't sound great well when 526 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: series one concluded. I think we all sat there and 527 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: thought this is not going to work out well for them. 528 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, we're happy to see them back together, but 529 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: realistically they haven't sorted anything out well. It was actually 530 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: Zobe who was saying to her, Look, Molly, this isn't 531 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: normal for Bamby to be going between the two houses 532 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: and to not really know what's going on between you two. 533 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: You need to try living back with Tommy. I wonder 534 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: if she suggested that because she kind of hopes that 535 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: maybe it'll end up with them breaking up. I think 536 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 1: she's the only realistic one in this situation. It seems 537 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: like Tommy and Molly are walking on eggshells around each 538 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: other because they still want to be together, but they 539 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: know realistically it's not going to work. I mean, Molly 540 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: even mentioned that she has chosen not to put her 541 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: engagement ring back on yet, so she admitted that she 542 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: doesn't feel quite ready to wear it again, and she 543 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: wants Tommy to make some sort of gesture now. She 544 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: said she doesn't expect a full blown proposal, but she'd 545 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: like him to plan, you know, like a nice romantic 546 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: dinner out so she can have that moment where she's like, Okay, 547 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: I'll wear it again. I mean, that'sn't exactly hard to 548 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: plan a nice dinner out. 549 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: It. 550 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why he hasn't done it already. She 551 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: is saying that this is a full new chapter for 552 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: her and Tommy, and again reiterated that they're back together, 553 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: but things aren't perfect now. Away from Tommy, the docuseries 554 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: really centered around Molly's experience as a mum, particularly the 555 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: intense mum shaming that she's been receiving. We've spoken at 556 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: length about the incidences on this podcast before. Funnily enough, 557 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: we were actually contacted by the Behind It All docuseries producers. 558 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: They asked if they could use a clip from our podcast, 559 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: so we spoke about Molly and her secret nanny. I 560 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: was so excited by this. I was like, does this 561 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: mean that Molly may knows we exist? Yeah, well, someone 562 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: in her team. The segment was actually from our subs 563 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: episode and I was like, I can't even remember what 564 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: we said, and we listen back I have the croakiest 565 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: voice on it. Anyway, they were really keen to have 566 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: the clip, and then they ghosted us, so we got 567 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: the vibe that I mean, they did it really well 568 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: in the first series where they would have people popping 569 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: up on TikTok or podcasts popping up, and they wanted 570 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: to use a line that made it sound like we're 571 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: being quite negative around the fact that it was revealed 572 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: that Molly had this secret nanny, whereas we came back 573 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: to them and said we were actually defending her decision 574 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: to do so and felt it was a bit sexist 575 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: that no one brought up the fact that Tommy also 576 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: has a nanny for his daughter, So I think as 577 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: soon as they heard that they were like, oh, we 578 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: might be barking up the wrong tree with that one. 579 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: It was quite interesting because they offered us a fee 580 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: to use the snippet from our podcast, and they asked 581 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: us how much we'd want for it, and we were like, 582 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: I have no idea what people would charge. We went 583 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: back to them and said, well, what's your budget. They 584 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: said three hundred pounds, which isn't too bad for like 585 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: a tiny snippet of your podcast. I actually thought considering 586 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: it was a internetational licensing that it wasn't that much 587 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: at all. Was still six hundred bucks, Sami, we would 588 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: have let the music for free, let's be honest, just 589 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: to be on Mommy Master. I was so excited. I'm like, 590 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, everyone that listens is going to be 591 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: thrilled for us that we're in the dog open. Well, 592 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: talking about the secret nanny, does she have one or not? Well, yes, 593 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: she does have a nanny. And this was brought up 594 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: when she was getting ready to go on a work 595 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: trip for a couple of days to Saint Trepey and 596 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: she was talking to her dad about it and he said, oh, 597 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: who's going to be looking after Bambi whilst you're away, 598 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: and she said, oh, we've got childcare covering some of 599 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: the days. She then told her dad that there's been 600 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: all this speculation in the press about Bambi's childcare and 601 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: whether she has a nanny, and she said that she 602 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: never knew it was going to be blown into such 603 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: a big issue, and to be honest, she had shied 604 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: away from talking about it because she was really mindful 605 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: that she didn't want to upsend any mums or make 606 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: any of them feel less than and she confirmed that 607 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: it's not actually around the clock care is just when 608 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: she and Tommy are at work. I think the difficulty 609 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: with Molly and her job as an influencer is that 610 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: her role is to be as relatable as possible, even 611 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: though she is a multimillionaire who is super famous, and 612 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: when you watch her vlog she seems like just your 613 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: everyday girl, someone that you could be friends with. So 614 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: I understand why she probably shied away from talking about 615 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: the fact that she has a nanny and in terms 616 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: of how often she uses her. And I think people 617 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: probably see her day documented on YouTube and go, oh, 618 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: but all she does is go down to the shops 619 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: and watches movies at home or what she has a 620 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: nanny to look after Bambi. I don't think people realize, oh, 621 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: she actually has a business that she needs to work at, 622 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: like most mums go back to work after a period 623 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: of time. Yeah, And I think that it's more evident 624 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: when you watch the docu series how busy her life 625 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: is and the fact that she is this huge business 626 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: owner and also has all these brand deals that she's 627 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: got to manage. At the same time, she said that 628 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: having a nanny allows her to keep working and build 629 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: her business and create this life that she wants too. 630 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: For Bamby, I think we also forget the fact that 631 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: she's only twenty six years old and she's navigating motherhood 632 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: for the first time. She got a lot of flak 633 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: for a potty training scene that was included in this documentary. 634 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: I saw people talking about that on TikTok because people 635 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: were like, why did they film her in the bath 636 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: and also on the potty, Like they censored it, but 637 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: they were saying, well, what about the film crew that 638 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: were there that you saw it all happening. I do 639 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: understand that, but I think it was actually a really 640 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: clever way to juxtaposition this very glamorous lifestyle that Molly 641 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: has with the struggles of motherhood. Because in the scene, 642 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: she has this pink potty training toilet set up in 643 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: Baby's on sween and Baby just refused to go on there, 644 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: and Molly had bought her this little bucket hat and 645 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: some sunglasses and said only girls who used the toilet 646 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: are allowed to wear these. Anyway, Baby wasn't having any 647 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: of it. She hid in this basket and then absolutely 648 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: lost it when Molly tried to put her on the 649 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: toilet like it was very relatable for any parents. It 650 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: was an absolute shit show. Pardon the b I mean, 651 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: I get that that's good content, but personally, if I 652 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: was Bamby, I don't think I'd be thrilled that this 653 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: vision of me learning to use the potty was being 654 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: aired to millions of people across the world. It was 655 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: quite humorous because she then put Bambi in the bath 656 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: and Bambi ended up, of course, pooing in the bar 657 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: and she's having to scoop out this disintegrating poo. So, 658 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the thing that actually made me more mad 659 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: was that Tommy then pops up on face time. Oh 660 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: how did you go, Bambi? It's like, where are you? 661 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: Why are you not helping? 662 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 663 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: I read an article saying that the docuseries actually posed 664 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: more questions than it answered, and it seems like by 665 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: Molly letting this crew into her life when I think 666 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 1: that there are a lot of unanswered questions that she 667 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: wants to know the answers to in terms of her 668 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: in a relationship with Tommy, and it's just come across 669 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: as a little bit awkward. Yeah, but again, this docuseriies 670 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: has two parts to it. So we've got three episodes 671 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: that have been released. Now, at the start of next 672 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: year we have three. I'm sure those three more are 673 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: going to answer some of those questions. I think it's 674 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: actually set it up in a really clever way because 675 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: it leaves you wanting more. How long of these episodes 676 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: are they around like the forty five to hour mark 677 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: again or only about half an hour? I got through 678 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: them so quickly. Well, that's disappointing. Maybe I could have 679 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: bloody watched them this week because I saw Molly talking 680 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: about how she's taken this big hiatus from YouTube because 681 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: she's been filming, you know, twenty four to seven to 682 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: only have an hour and a half worth of content 683 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,239 Speaker 1: when some of her vlogs are around the thirty to 684 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: forty minute mark each week. Yeah, but I think it's 685 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: quality over quantity. The episodes were snappy, they kept you engaged, 686 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: and I personally cannot wait for the second installment to 687 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: drop in January. Let's have a bit of a Friday debrief. 688 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: I want to know what your highs and lows for 689 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: this week are, Sophie. I think I already know your low. Oh, 690 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: it's definitely the four months week progression. I touched on 691 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: this in our Subs episode. It's hit me hard. I 692 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: have been pre emptying it for a couple of weeks now. 693 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: It's not like you to be pessumists. No, I've done 694 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: a lot of reading about it because I was like, 695 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: I just want to know when it's gonna hit, and 696 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: I want to know when it's gonna end. Unfortunately, there's 697 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: not an answer to any of those questions because it 698 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: is subjective. Well, us just life with a baby. I 699 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: don't think that they don't come with a handbook. Unfortunate, 700 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: h I mean, Luckily, he's still sleeping really well overnight. 701 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: It's just his daytime naps that have been thrown off. 702 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: Literally it'll be thirty minutes and bang on the thirty 703 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: minutes he wakes up and can't resettle himself. He is 704 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: learning so many things though, So my high of the 705 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: week has to be the fact that he's put on 706 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: a lot more weight recently. He's looking a lot bigger, 707 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: and he's just smiling and there's so much more personality now. So, 708 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, she's so gorgeous. You've got to take the 709 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: good with the bad, don't you. My low of the 710 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: week is that poor Amy has been sick. She's been 711 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: struck down by It's not the flu of COVI, but 712 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: it's some nasty sort of coldy virus, and that's why 713 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: she hasn't been on the show this week. But it 714 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: also means double the work for Sophie and I, especially 715 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: those of us struggling with four month aggressions and children 716 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: not sleeping during their naptimes, which is your only time 717 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: to do some work. It makes it tough. Yeah, so 718 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: poor Aim, she is starting to feel a lot better, 719 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: but we haven't really seen her because she was away 720 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: in Kangaroo, Ireland for a couple of days too, so 721 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm really missing her. So that would be my low 722 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: of the week. My high of the week is sadly 723 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: television related. I know we talked about the Block. I'm 724 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: sad that the Block is basically over, but I've replaced 725 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: that obsession so for you'll be excited by this. With 726 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: the Summer, I turned pretty well, I did sad watch 727 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: the Block. If you watch the Summer, I turn pretty 728 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: and look, we should take each other's recommendations more clearly. 729 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: It's the first show in a long time where I 730 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: don't even want to be on my phone, like I've 731 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: got to be watching it, and it's so nice to 732 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: actually be so invested in a TV show. I'm at 733 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: the end of the second series, and I've been told 734 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: that the third series is by far the best, and 735 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: that I didn't even have to bother to watch the 736 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: first two. I said to Brannon last night, I just 737 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: can't wait for Kate to start watching the third series. 738 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna have your socks blown off. 739 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: See. 740 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: It's annoying because I actually do know what happens at 741 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: the end. I won't spoil it for anyone else, but 742 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: I do think it's fairly obvious. Yeah, I know what 743 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: happens at the end. And I've been hearing everyone going 744 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: on like, oh, I'm team Conrad, I'm team Jeremiah. And 745 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: I was surprised because towards the end of season two 746 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: I was Team Jeremiah. But I've been told that I 747 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: will turn into team Conrad in season three because, not 748 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: to give anything away, but they really make Jeremiah into 749 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: a bit of a flog in season three. When I 750 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: first watched her, I was like, I don't rate any 751 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: of these guys. I don't think they're attractive. I mean, 752 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: probably because they looked really young. But now I'm like, 753 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, they're both gorgeous, Like, which one would 754 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: I choose from there. That's the best thing about how 755 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: the show's created is you almost feel like you're Belly 756 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: and you're in the dialamma of Oh my god, they're 757 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: both incredible. I've got a bone to pick with Belly. 758 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: Why are you messing with these boys when their mothers 759 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: just passed away. I get so annoyed at her. I'm like, 760 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: you're causing this problem, and apparently I'm going to be 761 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: even more annoyed with her by season three. In season three, 762 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: everyone turned on Belly. I'm already turned on her now, 763 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: not impressed with her behavior. It's funny because she's the 764 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: main character, but she's not the hero of the show. 765 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: The heroes of the show are Jeremiah and Conrad. Yep, 766 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: so I'm getting ready to be team Conrad because I 767 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: always love an underdog. Suddenly that he's the underdog on 768 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: my own. It flipped so much during the series. It's 769 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: so clever. Yeah, I could talk about that show all day, 770 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: but we probably should head off. Thank you so much 771 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: for joining us for this episode. If you have enjoyed it, 772 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: Could you please make sure you are subscribed on Apple 773 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: podcast and also Spotify and if you want to hear 774 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: more content from us, we drop a subscriber only episode 775 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: every Thursday. That episode went live yesterday. If you're not 776 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: an Outspoken Plus subscriber, what are you doing? It's basically 777 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: an extension of this show. You get a third episode 778 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: every week. This week, we spoke about the croc invasion 779 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 1: at and influencer hot Spot, along with g Bungalow's decision 780 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: to launch a faceless kid's clothing campaign, and also Indie 781 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: Clinton taking aim at her plastic surgeon. We also had 782 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: a bit of a candid conversation about Sophiekesha's recent podcast interview. 783 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: If you want to hear about that, Yeah, and let 784 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: us know if you do want us to do a 785 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: bit of a deep dive into that. Also a bit 786 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: of a live update. Artie's pet snake has been located. 787 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: You know what are the odds of that? We just 788 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: basically finished the episode. I scrolled on Instagram and I'm like, oh, 789 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: the snake has been found. So it was actually hiding 790 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: in a bag. So Chloe has opened up the bag. 791 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: She wrote, Oh my God saw her pop her head 792 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: out of this bag as I was going into my car. 793 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: This am anyone want a snake? I think my snake 794 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: mom days are over? Sorry Artie. Now in the photo, 795 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: the snake again looks like it's about to strike. Oh 796 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: it's horrible. I'm gonna have nightmares after this. We should 797 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: probably leave things there. Thank you so much again for 798 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: joining us. This episode was recorded on the traditional land 799 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay 800 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: respect to elders past and present,