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Speaker 1: Black cast. You know our voices.

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Speaker 2: Black Magic Women Podcast acknowledges the traditional owners of the

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Speaker 2: land we have recorded this episode on. We also acknowledge

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Speaker 2: traditional owners of the land where you the listener or

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Speaker 1: We would like to pay our respects to our.

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Speaker 2: Elders past and present and acknowledged that this always was

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Speaker 2: Aboriginal land and always will be Aboriginal land.

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Speaker 3: So there was three awards that go out. There was

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Speaker 3: four or five of us left. Yeah, made it to

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Speaker 3: the final bit, but this is where I get dusted.

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Speaker 3: So it was Pharrell and Rihanna. They tied for like

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Speaker 3: the gold one, and then there's me and ed Sheer

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Speaker 3: and left, and then I ended up getting the bronze one.

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Speaker 3: And then I have a laugh. Is bronze enough? He

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Speaker 3: didn't need?

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Black Magic Woman Podcast with Mondonara Bail.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to part two of Mondanara's chat with Nookie Live

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Speaker 3: south By Southwest Sydney. We pick up where we left off.

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Speaker 3: Nookie yarns with Montanara about his group three percent three percent.

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Speaker 1: You're wearing it on your hat for those that are

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Speaker 1: not in the room and not.

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Speaker 2: Watching when this comes out, on YouTube three percent of

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Speaker 2: assistance for the fact that black fellows make up three

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Speaker 2: percent of the population.

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Speaker 1: How did that come about?

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Speaker 2: You got two other brothers that you decided to collaborate with. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it's three percent that's up for the four arias.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh if we take home free, I'll be happy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: one each. Yeah. When we were making the music, look,

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Speaker 3: I wrote a big list of names. I sent it

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Speaker 3: over to Dallas and he said three percent is the one.

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Speaker 3: And then when we decided to do it again, it

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Speaker 3: was just like I wanted it to be a constant reminder.

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Speaker 3: You know, we were one hundred percent of this country

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Speaker 3: once upon a time and now we're three percent. So

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Speaker 3: it was like every you know Spotify playlist, we're on,

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Speaker 3: every festival we do. It's front and center. You know,

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Speaker 3: you canin'd of escape it, and it's not necessarily I'm

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Speaker 3: not trying to use it as a bad thing or

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Speaker 3: a good things. You take it out, you want to

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Speaker 3: take that, but it's a reminder and it's not the true,

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Speaker 3: the truth. So I wanted that to shine out amongst

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Speaker 3: all the all the noise out there. So yeah, whenever

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Speaker 3: you see we're playing this festival, we're going to see

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Speaker 3: three percent and people might subconsciously think about it, they

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Speaker 3: what's three percent mean? And you don't let them know.

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Speaker 3: So it was a yeah, that's why we decided on that.

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Speaker 2: How did like, there's two brothers and one of them

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Speaker 2: raps and the other ones.

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Speaker 1: Are producer singer, is a singer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so how the three of yours kind of get

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Speaker 1: The five or ten songs on that.

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Speaker 2: At first EP thirteen maybe fourteen one of them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now look me and so how kind of happened?

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Speaker 3: Was me and Dallas? I think actually, I think it's

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Speaker 3: the day I launched where our worries. Me and Dallas

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Speaker 3: this song, and yeah, the energy just felt right. I

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Speaker 3: and finish it. So I told him, I said, yes, sweet,

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Speaker 3: I linked up with Dallas again and that one song

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Speaker 3: turned into four songs. And while this was happening, I

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Speaker 3: was working on another little project. I was working on

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Speaker 3: a song with Angus. He was singing the hook on it,

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Speaker 3: which was like an interpolation of an Uncle Jimmy little song.

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Speaker 3: So what happened was I went down with Dallas and

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Speaker 3: it all out. And so Dallas came up. We had

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Speaker 3: Angus flew. Now me and Dallas got the work in

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Speaker 3: And then so we just started jamming. Made a couple

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even the cover, if you haven't seen three percent,

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Speaker 2: there's four arias. One of the arias is for best

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Speaker 2: album cover. So the album cover is Nicki Windmer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: remember that famous picture of the af play out lifting

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Speaker 1: So that to Nicky winma Is and Adam Goods did

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Speaker 2: And there's younger abersh AFL players that are dealing with

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Speaker 1: To their black skin. So to have what.

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Speaker 2: Made you choose that moment as your cover And it's

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Speaker 2: amazing that that's actually up for best album cover for

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Speaker 2: an aria.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Looking now a high school, we didn't have a

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Speaker 3: I grew up looking at that picture and again there

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Speaker 3: was that message of hope and strength. He was copping

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Speaker 3: it that day and he lift up his jersey's you

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Speaker 3: can't change this. I'm black and I'm proud, and that

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Speaker 3: told him what it was about, and he was he

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Speaker 3: was all for. He goes, yeah, nephew, you take it.

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Speaker 3: Dan Boyd there again big fan of his artworker, said I,

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Speaker 3: unc I would love to have you a part of

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Speaker 3: this with us, sent him the music and he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm in And then said Uncle Nick, He said we

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Speaker 1: Cover because it's pixelated. It looks like just do dots, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was looking at it and just staring at it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, wow, you know, I couldn't imagine the

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Speaker 2: whole thought process for an album cover. Yeah, and there's

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Speaker 2: three of you, is right, You'll got to agree on

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Speaker 2: is this is the reality for blackfellows sometimes to think

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Speaker 1: This, but to have Uncle Nicki's support pretty deadly.

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Speaker 2: And I was going to say in terms of We

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Speaker 2: Are Warriors you mentioned before, and I know that there

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Speaker 2: award at Cans the Cans or Cans you know, the

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Speaker 2: Cahns Film Festival in Paris, Paris. So you want to brother,

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Speaker 2: this is crazy. You just walk past his brother in

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Speaker 2: the street and I wouldn't know, you know, for four

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Speaker 2: done a frisking song with black eyed peas, Like this

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Speaker 2: is crazy success that most not even blackfellows, that musicians

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Speaker 2: growing up in Redfern, it's very far and few in

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Speaker 2: between to see blackfellows, proud blackfellows speaking their truth succeed

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Speaker 1: So it's just good timing that the album come out.

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Speaker 2: But We Are Warriors, I know that that's something that's

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Speaker 2: really close to your heart, close to home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's for me, Like that's the big legacy

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Speaker 3: dark place. And so we are warriors. Is like it's

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Speaker 3: a business. I started organization movement. You know, could throw

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Speaker 3: based off like a story we got down in Norris

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Speaker 3: They could see, you know, the destruction that was causing.

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Speaker 3: So they started singing out for help in the area

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Speaker 3: this bird he comes down, he's I got what's going

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Speaker 3: And in that moment, he has a bit horrified by

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Speaker 3: the core that the black Doggert two does. And when

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Speaker 3: put out the fire. So this you know, the people

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Speaker 3: something I'll hold close to my heart and something I

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Speaker 3: always looked to for inspiration, which is I think why

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Speaker 3: story of hope and being, you know, being able to

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Speaker 3: but bring what you learned and use that to heal

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Speaker 3: the people around. So, yeah, there was a moment in

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Speaker 3: my life. You know, you can imagine this music game.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that come with it, a

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Speaker 2: I feel really privileged just to hear you speak about

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Speaker 6: I saw you a global citizen earlier in the Air

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Speaker 2: that was it. So love the question and love the response,

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Speaker 2: my brother, So anyone else before we have to say goodbye?

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Speaker 1: Is the one last two yes down here at the front.

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Speaker 5: Hey, So I found your music actually through shazaming one

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Speaker 5: of your songs on Spotify on the radio, which is awesome,

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Speaker 5: but that's also that can be a time and a

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Speaker 5: place thing. So I was wondering if you had any artists,

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Speaker 5: music or outside of it that you'd like to shout

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Speaker 5: out in the right.

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Speaker 3: Direction of Yeah, there's heaps.

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Speaker 4: It is like you not leave anyone out now.

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Speaker 3: On on Friday Saturday, there's Ria who's like a new

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Speaker 3: singer kind of coming up through the ranks. There's Willie

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Speaker 3: Jay and Chazza there from around Waterloo and that same

446
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Speaker 3: area as Leroy young brother who's is from around Leeb There,

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Speaker 3: Bunge Lung with Adri Foller, rox S Lavvy. He's a

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Speaker 3: new guy coming up through the scenes. He'll be performing

449
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Speaker 3: there as well. There's Kate dropped some new stuff recently.

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Speaker 3: Jada Weasel's a sick one. Becca Hatch Kilroy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's there's here you say, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, And a question down the front.

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Speaker 4: Hi, my name is Tika. I'm a Gounditch Mara woman

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Speaker 4: came up from NAM.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask.

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Speaker 4: It kind of plays off the first question. How do

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Speaker 4: you navigate going through spaces that weren't traditionally created with

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Speaker 4: mob in mind and feeling like you belong there despite

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Speaker 4: how you said that we used to make up one

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Speaker 4: hundred b of this country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, Like I think I look at it,

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Speaker 3: it's not do I belong there? So do they belong

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Speaker 3: with me? You know what I mean? I walk into

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Speaker 3: these rooms like I'm going to do this regardless whether

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Speaker 3: you're there or not. Just up to you. If you're

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Speaker 3: going better bring some dollars with you if you do,

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Speaker 3: because a lot of it we got to eat. Yeah again,

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Speaker 3: Yeah again, it's that one. It's that ongoing commitment, that

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Speaker 3: long term stuffter you know, the longevity and if I

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Speaker 3: can't can't see that then, yeah, they weren't right for

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Speaker 3: the journey, so I yeah, I hope they help.

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Speaker 1: That's a great way to wrap up this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother, we could be going for another hour

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Speaker 2: or two, but I know you've got places to go.

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Speaker 1: Big shout out to Larroy.

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Speaker 2: My kids biggest Lroy fans and rang my nephew he

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Speaker 2: was playing for Sydney Kings and said, I know you

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Speaker 2: know LARROI how about getting some tickets so my kids

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Speaker 2: can go see him. It was a Core that gave

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Speaker 2: us some tickets to see LaRoy, so my kids first

481
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Speaker 2: ever concert was in a box at a Core stadium.

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Speaker 2: But because we couldn't meet him that night, he literally said,

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Speaker 2: if you get to the Brisbane show, I'll make sure

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Speaker 2: that your names are on the door and can you

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Speaker 2: can meet out And he did. He actually kept his

486
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Speaker 2: promise and my kids we had to fly to Brisbane

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Speaker 2: then and go meet Larroy. But talk about a lad

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Speaker 2: from the community that hasn't forgotten where he comes from.

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Speaker 2: That another young brother says, Hey, my auntie's coming with

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Speaker 2: five kids. Can you meet him because they want to

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Speaker 2: get a photo with you, And he made it happen

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Speaker 2: the first time failed that's all right the second time

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Speaker 2: pulled it off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's exactly the thing with him. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: forget where he comes from and you know all of that,

496
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Speaker 3: Like I used to buy him plms him and his

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Speaker 3: little brother Oz, you know, and he'll still reach out

498
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Speaker 3: even before he left and became you know who everyone

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Speaker 3: knows him has. Today we went to a show together

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Speaker 3: Wu Tang and straight after school so we go to Wines.

501
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Speaker 3: He drops his school bag off. Two weeks later flies

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Speaker 3: out to America and becomes the kid ler Roy. He's

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Speaker 3: school back.

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Speaker 1: Still there, humble beginnings. Yeah, my brother will look I hope.

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Speaker 2: That all of you enjoyed this amazing year. I feel

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Speaker 2: like every time I sit down, especially with my own mob,

507
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Speaker 2: and just yarn about who we are, what we do,

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Speaker 2: things that you're getting up to, and I'm sure there's

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Speaker 2: a lot more.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: You can listen to Nookie Sunday nights on Blackout and

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Speaker 2: I love it. What is it playing tunes when you're lapping.

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Speaker 3: You just lapping the streets?

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Speaker 1: Something tag line that was.

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Speaker 2: Just like this is like one of my older brothers

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Speaker 2: having a yarn. So if you haven't had listened to

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Speaker 2: Sunday Nights predominantly averaged on music, and all those names

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Speaker 2: that you just read it off, I'm pretty sure that

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Speaker 2: you probably you.

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Speaker 1: Play them on Triple Jay.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, jump online and hit this brother up solid.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for coming in. Thank you, I've being

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Speaker 1: part of this amazing podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well again, like black as Women existed, ones for

525
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Speaker 3: people like your nan and your dad and that log

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Speaker 3: I never met your old men, but everywhere it's Uncle

527
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Speaker 3: Tiger was the man. You know, solid reputation everywhere, so

528
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Speaker 3: it's mad if I only get the link with you mob,

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Speaker 3: and yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thank you full circle. So look on that note, I

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Speaker 2: hope you've enjoyed this episode. Until next time.

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Speaker 1: Bye for now. If you'd like.

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Speaker 2: Any more on today's guest, please visit our show notes

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Speaker 2: in the episode description. A big shout out to all

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Speaker 2: you Deadly Mob and allies who continue to listen, watch,

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Speaker 2: can rate and review the podcast on Apple and Spotify,

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Speaker 2: or even head to our socials and YouTube channel and

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Speaker 2: drop us a line.

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