1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Are you a carb or more specifically, bread lover. Have 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: you tried one of the new protein braced, lower carb 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: loafs in supermarkets? And more importantly, are they actually healthy? 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: Today? 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: On the Nutrition Couch product review, we take a closer 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: look at two of the popular protein breads you can 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: find at supermarkets and see if they really are a 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: better choice. 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 3: Nutrition lead Hi, I'm Susie Burrow and I'm lean Wood, 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 3: and we bring you the. 11 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Nutrition Couch, a bi weekly chat on everything you can 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: find in the supermarket. 13 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: Now. 14 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: Leanne bread is controversial. 15 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Indeed, whenever I put any kind of post up on 16 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: my socials about bread, we get a lot of feedback, 17 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: and from our Nutrition Couch listeners, we've had a lot 18 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: of questions about bread in the nine months or so 19 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: we've been recording, and I think one of the biggest 20 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: changes in supermarkets is that we've seen more and more 21 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: protein breads, and I find my clients get quite confused 22 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: because there's low carb, high protein, then there's lower carb 23 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: which may not be necessarily high protein. 24 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: So we thought it was a really good opportunity. 25 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: For us to break down a couple of these brands, 26 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: and we've chosen there's a few different ones out there, 27 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: and the other feedback we get is people will say, 28 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: why didn't you choose this one? And for full transparency, 29 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: none of these segments are sponsored. Certainly, if we ever 30 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: do revert to a sponsored product segment, we will be 31 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: very transparent on that. So these come down to products 32 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: that Leanna and I are familiar with. There's a particular 33 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,279 Speaker 1: reason we may want to discuss it, we may really 34 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: like it, or sometimes it's just what we have time 35 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: to quickly put together. It really is random. Now for 36 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: full transparency, again, I've chosen two for quite specific reasons. 37 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: I've chosen the Herman Brothers Lower cub Loaf, which was 38 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: one of the first available in Audi Supermarket because they 39 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: bake for Audi. So I've chosen that because yes it's 40 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: a specialty bread and you can get it in coals, 41 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: but it's also the same nutritionals as the high protein 42 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: low car breadth that's available in Audi, so. 43 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: It's ticking both of those boxes. 44 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: And that was a really revolutionary company who brought one 45 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: of the first ones to market. And then I've chosen 46 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: also the Woolies Macro myself just because I quite like 47 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: the profile of it and they've got quite a wide range. 48 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: They've got English muffins and bread rolls as well. So 49 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: as I said, there's no personal reason we choose it 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: other than we might like it, be interested in it, 51 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 1: or it just comes up when we're doing a quick 52 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: search so that's the background to. 53 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: That, or it's available at the shops. When we're searching 54 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: for products, we do try. 55 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: And really choose products that are readily available for people too. 56 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: And as I said, the reason I like this Herman 57 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: Brothers one is that is the AUDI product too, So 58 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: it's ticking both of those boxes for people who like 59 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: to shop at Audi as I often do for some 60 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: great savings. 61 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: So this is an interesting. 62 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: Product because it was, I want to say, the first 63 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: lower car bread that was widely available. It's got five 64 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: health star rating in Audi. It retails for about five 65 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: dollars a loaf, and it's slightly more for the bread 66 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: and version. I think it's six or seven in coals. 67 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: Nutritionally per two slices, and the slices of a protein bread, 68 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: we want to the main difference nutritionally is that to 69 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: make a protein bread, it either needs to be a 70 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: very special flour to concentrate the protein or it needs 71 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: to have a very heavy seed and grain base. So 72 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: what that does is really significantly bump up the protein 73 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: and good fat content, and it lowers the available carbohydrates. 74 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: So certainly in the case of this bread, it's slightly 75 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: different because they do it does use a soy protein 76 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: as well to increase the protein content. So and that's 77 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: why the slices, i should say, are much smaller, because 78 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: it's a denser slice, because you're not getting that traditional 79 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: wheat flour that makes bread soft and fluffy. 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: So that's the first difference. 81 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: It's certainly not bread as we would be as familiar 82 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: with bread. It's much more like a European heavy dense 83 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: loaf per serve, two small slices, almost chandred, and fifty calories, 84 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: twenty three point six grams of protein, which is huge. 85 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: Normally in a bread you'd get sort of eight grams 86 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: if it's a heavy grain bread in super market. It 87 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: does have what would appear to be reasonably high levels 88 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: of fat twelve point eight grams purchase slices compared to 89 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: say half of that if you are looking at a 90 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: grain bread, or even lower. But most importantly it's very 91 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: low saturated fat as you would expect at one point 92 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: seven grams or less than three percent carbo Hydrate's only 93 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: five grams compared to twenty thirty forty to fifty grams 94 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: in regular sour dough or larger slices, or about twenty 95 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: four for something like a bergen sugar. The sugars I 96 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't be overly worried. People often think sugar is added 97 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: to bread. It's not the case. It's just secondary to 98 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: the baseline flour load ten point seven grams of dietary fiber, 99 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: which is enormous. So again, high fiber bread you may 100 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: get sort of four or five if you're lucky. This 101 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: is enormous because of that heavier grain load. Sodium's not 102 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: overly high for bread at three fifty milligrams purchase slices. 103 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: But the big difference in this loaf compared to some 104 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: of the other ones is I said the formulation. So 105 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: the first ingredients water, followed by wheat protein, soy protein, 106 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: loopine protein. 107 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: Soy meal, soy grits. 108 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: So they're really using a special formulation of protein flowers 109 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: to achieve this loaf. 110 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: So that's quite different. 111 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: So my general recommendation with protein breads is First of all, 112 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: it has a role and we'll talk about that in 113 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: a secondly, and because I'm interested in your perspective on 114 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: them with clients, but I will say to the client's 115 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: the main difference is that ingredient list. And if you're 116 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: someone who's not a massive soy fan, it's probably this 117 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: isn't probably the one for you because some medical conditions 118 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: or preferences will people will be preferring to avoid soy, and. 119 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: That is the difference with this. But in terms of. 120 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: Taste, it's a great taste. It's very, very feeling. My 121 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: personal use of it is as a way to get 122 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: protein breakfast time without using foods like eggs or smoked 123 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: salmon or dairy. So it's really handy for people who 124 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: are looking for a plant based diet or who are 125 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: over eggs or hot breakfast, so they really want to 126 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: have toast for breakfast with a bit of avocado or 127 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: a bit of veggie. But because I like carbs in 128 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: the morning, I'll then try and get them to a 129 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: little bit of carb, which may be banana with peanut 130 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: butter on the toast. It's not low calorie, it can 131 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: really be quite high in calories and if you're then 132 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: starting to have protein toast with avocado or with banana 133 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: and peanut butter. You're looking at, you know, a four 134 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: hundred even up to five hundred calorie breakfast. So that's 135 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: really important to be aware of. It may be lowering carb, 136 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: but it's certainly not lowering calories, and it really depends 137 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: on your personal dietary goals, but it's a viable option. 138 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: I do routinely use them, and that's probably the main 139 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: differentiating factor and feedback I'll give clients is taste, because 140 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: obviously they do taste quite different between the brands availability 141 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: where you're buying it from. But also if you're someone 142 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: with a preference for Sawyer, I'd just be mindful that 143 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: that is a baseline ingredient. 144 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 2: So tell me. 145 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: I've never asked Julian and about protein breads and what 146 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: you do with your clients. 147 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love them. I myself eat them regular and 148 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: I recommend them for my clients as well. So I'll 149 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: just clarify that it's the Hermand Brought, not Herman Brothers 150 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: and the Aldi one. If you're looking in it, I 151 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: think it's called the something like the ninety five percent 152 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: lower carb, higher protein toast, so it's slightly different label. 153 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: We might wax some photos up on our Instagram accounts 154 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: so you guys can follow along there. And I actually 155 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: came across this bread years ago, Ceasy. I found it 156 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: in my Ida, my local Ija sort of did specialty breads. 157 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: I hadn't seen it. I think it's only recently come 158 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: into Coals, but it's been around for quite a few years, 159 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: and I've been eating it for quite a few years. 160 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: And the way I see it is that a lot 161 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: of myself included and my clients like to put things 162 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: like jam or honey, like honey and banana on toast. Right, 163 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: So when you're adding honey, which is a carbohydrates of sugar, banana, 164 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: which is a carbohydrate for just to sugar, and bread, 165 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: which is a carbohydrate, you're adding two serves of carbs 166 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: onto more carbs. From a health and a weight loss perspective, 167 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 3: that's not the best option for the majority of people. 168 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: Let's put it that way. If you're somebody who you 169 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: know is a huge high level athlete, or you're in 170 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: eating disorder recovery or something like that, perhaps yeah, that 171 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: could be a great option for you. But for the 172 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: bulk of our listeners and the bulk of austrains. It's 173 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: not a great option to just keep adding carbon carbon 174 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: cap on carb It's not going to keep you full 175 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: for very long, and it just really doesn't have the 176 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: amount of protein and healthy fats that we want. So 177 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: this is a great option. But as you said, for me, 178 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: it's too low in carbohydrates. So I use this to 179 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: tick my protein and my fiber box. Ten point seven 180 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: grams of fiber in two slices is unreal It is amazing. 181 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: For some people who have a sensitive glut, it might 182 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: be too much. They might find themselves running to the bathroom. 183 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: But for the majority of healthy people it's a great load. 184 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: And because it's super low in carbohydrate, then you can 185 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: actually put your carbohydrate on the toast without any issues. 186 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: So adding something like jam and fruit on top of 187 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: this is an awesome option. So I love to do 188 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: something like this is a bit cheeky, but as a 189 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: bit of a treat, I might do some like nintella 190 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: and some slice fruit or something onto something like this 191 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: protein bread. But as you mentioned, it is because it's 192 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 3: heavily based on fats, it is quite you know, more 193 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: energy dense than you know, two normal slices of bread. 194 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: So I think it's a great option. It's super filling. 195 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: Of course, it doesn't taste anything like white bread, but 196 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: it is it's feeling, it's and it's a great nutritional profile. 197 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: But it is lower in carbohydrates. So just having this 198 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: with say some nut butter on top isn't actually a 199 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: great post workout you know, snack or post workout meal 200 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: because you're not getting that amount of carbohydrate in to 201 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: refuel your muscle. So I would definitely say if you're 202 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: if you're using this option as sort of a toast 203 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: or breakfast option, I would definitely be putting carbohydrate on that. 204 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: So fruit is probably the easiest option, or a little 205 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: bit of jam or honey or something like that to 206 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: get in some beneficial carbohydrates at breakfast time. But I 207 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: routinely use these myself, SUSI, and also for my clients 208 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: because I think that they're I think they're great options, 209 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: but their price is probably a little something to be 210 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: aware of. It's probably two to three times that of 211 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: a normal you know, well these branded loaf of bread, 212 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: and there are a couple of allergens as well. I 213 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: think people need to be aware of mainly wheat, soy 214 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: lupin as well and also balley other allergens in this, 215 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: so unfortunately for our celiacs it's a no no. And 216 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: it's also got some trace may contain you know, milk, 217 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 3: sesame seeds and tree nuts as well, so it's process 218 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: in a factory that has other products containing those things. 219 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: If you have an alley and you're particularly sensitive, you 220 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: probably want to avoid something like this. But I think 221 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: it's overall a great product and really I do really 222 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: use it for a lot of my clients, you know, 223 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: in the right occasion, not every day, but when they 224 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: do wats them toast and they're really craving a bit 225 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: of honey or jam. I think this is a great option. 226 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: And I will say it originates. 227 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: It's a German and French group that bring it here 228 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: to Australia. I'm just checking if it's baked here or not. 229 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: But hence the I guess link to being a very dark, 230 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: fibrous type of loaf. And there's also crackers in the range. 231 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: There's raps I've seen, there's pasta, so. 232 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: It's a really it's granola as well. 233 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: It's a really interesting company, as I said, because I 234 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: will try and find out in the next couple of 235 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: minutes if it's baked here, but that's where it originates from. 236 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a great product. 237 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: As I said, it's really I think spurred Australian suppliers 238 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: to make a different range of lower carb high protein loads, 239 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: but I couldn't agree. I use them as you do 240 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: as an option, but I'm also keen for people to 241 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: have their carbohydrates for fuel in the morning. I'm certainly 242 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: not avoid those and using them in that space. I 243 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: also use it as a filling afternoon snack, like a 244 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: slice of that with some nutspread or avocado and tomato 245 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: if people get home hungry or maybe they're going to 246 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: the gym, to give them that real full factor. It 247 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: is quite a dense and has that ability to fill. 248 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: So yeah, I absolutely use them and am really excited 249 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: that they have been around here and encouraged other Australian 250 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: companies to make similar products. Which leads me to the 251 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: other product that I've chosen, which is the Wooli's Macro brand, 252 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: which is a small green loaf that sometimes in the 253 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: health food section at Willies, sometimes in the main grocery. Admittedly, 254 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: I would say it's it's probably more in the metro 255 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: as opposed to widespread Willie shops, just because of the 256 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: specialist product that it is in. I live in the 257 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: inner city of Sydney and certainly the two three four 258 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: loaves that come up at the Woolies get sold out 259 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: every day. I've certainly seen demand and increase and probably 260 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: that's led to them to also now be making the 261 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: English muffins and also the bread rolls I should say 262 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: the Herman Brot, not Herman Brothers Herban, but also have 263 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: bread rolls available in that Audi branding as well. And 264 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: I like this product Land. I like the nutritionals of 265 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: it because its first ingredients water, then wheat, gluten, limb seed, 266 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: sunflower seeds, so it's really giving us a beautiful polyunsaturated 267 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: fat load of those really good fats that we often 268 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: will we only really get from wheelie fish or in 269 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: plant foods from walnuts and limb seeds and sunflower and pepeds, 270 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: so it's one of those rare foods that is going 271 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: to be It doesn't list the poly unsaturated content, but 272 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: I imagine it would be quite high, which is why I 273 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: lean towards it. Similar in the nutritional amounts per serve, 274 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: you're looking at just over two hundred and fifty calories, 275 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: twenty one grams of protein. Again, the fats quite high, 276 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: almost sixteen grams perserve. We're getting a little bit more 277 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: saturated fat two point three because of that seed load. 278 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: Carbohydrates even lower at three point six grams, and funnily enough, 279 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: Woolies are not listed the dietary fiber content. 280 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sure why. 281 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: It seems rather odd that they wouldn't be doing that, 282 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: given it's a real health product sitting in that space. 283 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: So forgot any feedback from Willies on why that fiber, 284 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: but it would be quite high. I would imagine it 285 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: would be sort of up around that eight grams per serve. 286 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: It's a really nice tasting product, you know. I guess 287 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: in food industry are really trying to support Australian brands 288 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: and small Australian brands where we can, but credit where 289 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: credit is due. 290 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: Wilies. 291 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: It's a good product. It's got a really nice profile. 292 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: If I read through the other ingredients, So the seeds 293 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: are high thirteen percent seed, thirteen percent some flower seeds, 294 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: which is incredibly that's more than a quarter of the 295 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: loaf is from a seeded base, bamboo, fiber, canola oil, soy, flower, vinegar, yees. 296 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: So these are just minor ingredients to fill it out. 297 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: So it's a great tasting bread. It freezes really well, 298 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: so we should also say we don't generally use these 299 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: breads to make sandwiches. They better toasted. But it's a 300 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: great tasting product that my clients always really enjoy. It 301 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: retails at about six dollars a loaf. 302 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: I think from memory four dollars fifty. Actually I was 303 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: thirty four to fifty. 304 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: So I encourage people to keep it in the freezer 305 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: because it's a great backup for that quick and easy 306 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: breakfast if you've only got some vegimite or as you describe, 307 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: some jam at home, and it freezes really well because 308 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: of that fat profile that will keep it really stable, 309 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Whereas you'll find that if you leave it out for 310 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: too long, the the good fats because of those. 311 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: Seeds can turn. 312 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: Whereas freezing it's a really good way to preserve those 313 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: and be able to keep it and really make sure 314 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: you're not wasting it, which I think because we all find, 315 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: don't we with loaf bread we're often throwing it around, 316 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: throwing it away a little bit, and. 317 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: I justally like to freeze it because I don't find, 318 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: Susie that these you know, I guess better quality or 319 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: better macro type loaves are good for sandwich loaves. I 320 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: just can't eat this type of bread because it's so 321 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: dense as a sandwich. Is not like the nice, light, fluffy, 322 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: you know, sandwich type bread that I like to eat 323 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: with my sandwich. So like, I can't eat these loaves 324 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: unless it's toasted. So I just freeze mine anyway, because 325 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to toast it. So I do find that 326 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: freezing it is a better option because you know, defrosts 327 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: quite easily in the toaster. I've just looked up on 328 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: wools dot com and the fiber content is eleven point 329 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: six grams, so it is actually incredibly high. And it's 330 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: just because one of those ingredients is bamboo fiber. And 331 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to say controversially, a Susi, I actually don't 332 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: like the taste of this one. I think it's because 333 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: of the bamboo fiber. It's something to do with the texture. 334 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: I just I've tried it a few times and I 335 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: can't get my head around it. So For me, I'm 336 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: much more of a fan of the Herman Brought one 337 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: from a taste and a texture perspective, but this is 338 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: all a really individualized sort of taste thing. You know, 339 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: one person will enjoy it and another person won't, so 340 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: really give it a well yourself, you know. From a 341 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: cost perspective, it's a little bit lower. It's four dollars fifty. 342 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: Wilways listed this as a price drop option, so hopefully 343 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: that's sort of a price that will stay a little 344 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: bit lower. It's a little bit more affordable than the 345 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 3: hermane Brought one. But I don't know, SUSI I can't. 346 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: I think it's a texture thing for me, just a 347 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: bamboo fiber. I'm not loving it as much as some 348 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: of the other I really do like a nice dense bread, 349 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: so for me it doesn't quite tick the taste sort 350 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: of books. But as you said, the ingredient list is 351 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: you know, is excellent really but it is very low 352 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: in carbohydrate and I think in terms of two slices, 353 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty five calories for two slices, So 354 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: definitely not a lower calorie sort of bread option, but 355 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: a really really strong nutritional profile for a product like 356 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: this and go wool is they really do have some great, 357 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: you know, sort of better options in their ranges for 358 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: people with specific health conditioners or specific I guess goals 359 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: in their life that some of their products really do 360 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: tick boxes. We've done their pizza base on the podcast 361 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: as well, very early on, and we really liked that one. 362 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: Didn't we We did, And that will also lead me 363 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: to two other points. 364 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: So actually I just want to check. So you prefer 365 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: the Herman Brock taste wise. 366 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: I do. I think it's more of a texture thing 367 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: than a tastes thing. For me. I don't think this 368 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: necessarily tastes bad. I just don't enjoy the texture as 369 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: much as what I'd enjoyed the texture of the Herman 370 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: brought one. That's just my own personal preference. 371 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: So a couple of things the Herman Brock company do 372 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: bake here in Australia. I've had a couple of feedback 373 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: on my social media that they're frozen breads. 374 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: Now. 375 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Supermarkets may be freezing these breads again to prolong this 376 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: shelf a little bit because of these high seeded amounts 377 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: of times. But no, Herman brot do not import the bread. 378 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: It is baked here. I've just checked that, and. 379 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: The other point I'll make we're not covering in this today, 380 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: but in I have noticed in my Inner City Coals 381 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: that there has been a low carb, high protein white loaf. 382 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: Now I was so shocked by this nutritional profile that 383 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: I actually contacted the Coals nutritionists to ask her if 384 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: it was legit, and they have indeed formulated a flower, 385 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: but I don't believe it's widely available, which is one 386 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: of the reasons we didn't cover it today. So I 387 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: believe we will start to see even some white loaves 388 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: that are higher in protein, but nutritionally, as dietitians, we 389 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: will generally, unless people cannot tolerate seeds and grains, we 390 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: will generally prefer those both because of the nutritional offerings 391 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: they have. And I'm always going to go back to 392 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: a grain or seeded bread over a white loaf. I 393 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: don't care how much fiber they pump back in it. 394 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: But watch this space because at some point we will 395 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: come back and cover those growing range of sort of 396 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: healthier white bread alternative once I'm sort of certain that 397 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: those breads are widespread and not just being made for 398 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: the city bakeries. Or on trial at coals at the moment. 399 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: And to your point with in terms of the freezing, 400 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: the Hermon range is definitely frozen. Every single time over 401 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 3: the last probably four or five years that I've been 402 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: buying that range, it's always been frozen. So and as 403 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: I said, I actually prefer it that way because I 404 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: think it is too dense as a fresh sandwich bread. 405 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: I just wouldn't enjoy it as a sandwich bread option. 406 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: I very much will get a fresh, beautiful grain loaf 407 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: from my bakery if I wanted to have a nice 408 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 3: fresh sandwich awesome rolls, I wouldn't use that brand as 409 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 3: a I just think it's too dense for a sandwich loap. 410 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: It is really nice as a toasted bread toast option 411 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: for breakfast and freezing. I have no concerns about freezing bread. 412 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: So when someone had commented that, oh, it's frozen, I 413 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 3: was like, I wouldn't bother me because to me, that 414 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 3: ensures the freshness is being retained a little bit like 415 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 3: frozen veggies, because as I said, as soon as you 416 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 3: get that high quantity of good fat in there from 417 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: seeds in particular, they go ran said really quickly. So 418 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: that's why when you go to the baking section in 419 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: supermarkets and you buy like walnuts or pecans, they don't 420 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: taste as crunchy and fresh because those fats are so unstable. 421 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 3: They go a little bit rancid really quickly, and you 422 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: get that funny taste after taste. So the benefit for 423 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: me with these products is that if they've been frozen, 424 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 3: they've been snap frozen, so they're going to be as 425 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 3: just good as quality when you consume them. So a 426 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: bread that was frozen would be no concern to me, 427 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: and I'm with you. I only suggest these breads be 428 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 3: used as toast. I am like you. 429 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I would prefer a softer loaf if I was actually 430 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: making bread with it. Some people my clients don't mind 431 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: it as bread, but on the whole we do tend 432 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: to use it as like a toasted sandwich or a 433 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: toast in the morning, and hence it works well in 434 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: the freezer, so you get through the whole loaf and 435 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: you don't have to keep throwing out the fresh bread. 436 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: All right, we look for to your feedback. I think 437 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: this will be of interest to many people today. 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