WEBVTT - UNPACKED REALITY - MASETRCHEF AUSTRALIA - PEZZA 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.680 TV Reload, the podcast last Deep Thereby. Hey guys, welcome 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:07.480 back to TV Reload. I want to thank you for 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.280 clicking and downloading. On today's episode, with the runner up 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:13.920 of Master Chef Australia for twenty twenty four, Australia's current 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:18.599 favorite Tasmanian Josh Pez Perry Pezz is here to discuss 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.840 the heihs and lows of that nail biting finale, and 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:24.159 he really didn't even seem to notice that I was 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.720 still sounding like a sick donkey with my cold. I 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.280 apologize if I am a little bit off, but I 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:31.720 have to say I loved chatting about his time on 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.040 Mastershef Australia, something I simply couldn't miss. We will unpack 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.159 the finale and find out why Pezz thinks he always 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.400 comes second. There is a great opportunity to talk about 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.159 his future if he will be also cooking at the 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.000 Alumni restaurant, and what he hopes to achieve in bringing 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.120 people to Tasmania. We will talk about why I got 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.560 competitive in the final five and what sort of sacrifices 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.280 people made to be on the show. We will dive 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.320 deep into his reflection beyond the experience, and we will 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.840 also find out what his relationship is actually like with 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.600 Nat and how he truly feels about her Win. There 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.440 is so much to unpack with Pezzer, as you can imagine, 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.520 So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.880 world of Mastership Australia for twenty twenty four. Hi Pether, 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.960 Hey gal mate, I'm good. I'm very excited to be 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.360 talking to you. I think that you're everyone's favorite Tasmanian 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.880 at the moment. Did you have any beers last night? 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:29.520 I need to know, Like that was a I've got 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.760 a laugh out of you just then, which makes me 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.920 think that you might have punched a few beers last 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.240 night while celebrating, commiser rating. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.399 Quiet night for me last night and eight two single 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:44.280 mold Lark whiskys night was me and a glass sorry 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.440 and a glass of red wine with my at a 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:47.960 state that was good. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.080 That's on brandfoid. I wondered whether or not you'd been 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.800 planning those drinks. Like if it was me and I'd 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.320 been waiting months to watch this finale, I'd be like 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.240 I would know that I'm getting up to talk to 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.800 the media tomorrow. I have probably only two. I need 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:01.760 to plan what they are. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:02.640 It was pretty quiet. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.920 That's actually the young fellow's birthday last night, so we 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.760 just had a family tea and kicked back and had Yeah. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:11.600 Then the young fellow drunk. What did we drink? 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.520 A bit of tas Maine, A bit of brim creek 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.560 I think it was pen and yeah, prim creek penan noa. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:21.200 We had that with our steak, and then I finished, 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.639 like I said with I had put a nice bottle 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.480 of lark Away that I had got a I re 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.080 think it was a couple of years ago, which was 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.359 quite tasty. So a couple of them and a cup 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:30.400 of tea to finish up. 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:31.919 I would love to be a fly on the wall 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.600 when you finally get to have a few more drinks. 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.360 That would be a fun day down there. 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:36.880 I reckon. 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.080 Yeah, no, I'll get a bit wild sometimes when I 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.000 lit the hair there mate, So I'm definitely overdue. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.560 Yeah. It was really interesting and I felt like the 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.239 producers really set us up. I feel like your story 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.760 arc in the finale was heartbreaking, where they kept saying, 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.920 they kept showing you saying I'm always number two and 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.360 I was like, there is so many people that relate 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.640 to that. There's so many people in their lives always 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.720 feel like they're number two. At that point, I think 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.880 Australia thought, well, Pez's going to win this, Like, you know, 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.960 they can't say this, they can't put us through this 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.519 only for them to take it away from you. How 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:09.520 did you feel watching that? 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.280 I sort of looked at the wife a few times 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.359 and thought the same thing. You know, and it's not 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.560 just for to tell you it's a story in my life. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.520 It really is so many seconds in footy, you know, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.079 to coach for a year and then get bet in 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.840 a grand viol and do it all again with the 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.160 same team and think we won better and then go 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.520 down again. It was just it has been the story 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.400 of my life and maybe it is Pez a second again. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.840 That's probably how it's just always going to be for me. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.680 But I think one thing that really hit home was 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.880 when Andy said, you know, you haven't disgraced your family. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.600 You definitely haven't felt like I'd let them down. And 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.600 he said, you haven't let them down. And I think 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:49.360 that's where I'm probably first places that I've got a 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.680 lot more than what other people don't have, you know, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.600 so a really loving and caring family that I'm super 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.080 proud of my kids and the wife. So I'll make 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.040 up for it in different place. Made I might not 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.200 have got the two hundred and fifty thousand then took 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.400 the win, But I'm a pretty lucky boy and really 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.880 happy with where life is for me at the moment 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.920 and where it has been for a long time. So 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:12.160 I really started with that. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.480 I always think of that story about Cindy Crawford, and 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.760 we're about the same age, so we know who Cindy 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.800 Crawford is, while people who are a bit younger might 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:21.800 not necessarily know who that is. But she went to 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.039 university and she came second in her class, and I 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.120 always think of that whenever I come second. I think, 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.520 if Cindy Crawford is number two, that ain't bad. It's okay. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.839 May yeah, I thought the same. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.599 Pope kept doing it all through this season, you know, like, 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.160 I come second and look where I am now. And 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.560 that's a real good one too, you know when you 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.799 look back at what post achieved since she comes second 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.760 on the first ever season. So look, I think there's 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.720 still big things for me. And if there's not I'm 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.359 just so happy with what I did and where I come, Like, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.520 I was so close to the first episode to be 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.520 going home first, you know. So I grew through the show, 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.680 I still think, and they've sort of put that out 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.560 there a lot. I'm probably one that grew the most 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.640 through the show and that's something that, look, I can 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.120 hang my hat on that I've done really well and 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:10.799 I'm happy on my journey. 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.200 So do you think that there is any psychology that 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:18.480 unconsciously you only believe that you can be number two 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.720 and that somehow affects the outcome? And I'm not a psychologist, 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.080 so I'm asking you this question. I've got nothing for you, 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.640 but I'm just curious about how you interpret that, because 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.360 there's a lot of people in this world that thinks 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.000 that they bring about what they think about. And then 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.240 I thought about this a lot last night after watching 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.640 the finale, and I thought, is it that you believe 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:39.719 that you're the number two? Is there a chance that 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.200 we need to talk to you about leveling yourself up 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.919 and making you think it's possible to win. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.200 Your sound of a wife mate, you really do, That's 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.640 what she said to me last night. She says, like, 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.240 if you think you get in the flu. Josh, you'll 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.080 talk yourself into it. You was talking yourself into Coven 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:59.400 second before the show, even before the episode started. So look, mate, 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.080 you could be tirely right. I might be just and 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.800 I'm probably thinking that it could be right. I could 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:06.640 be thinking that, jeez, I don't want to be second 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.680 again in this football Grand Final, and I played out 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:10.120 that way. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.360 So look, maybe I do need a mindset change. 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.680 But I'm getting too old for football now, so I've 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:16.400 retired and. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.080 I don't know what more challenges I'm going to go. Look, 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:20.360 I've made second in the. 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.280 Best Bacon in Australia a couple of times like it. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.400 It just seems to be me. So maybe I do 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:27.800 talk myself into it. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.720 And it needs to change. We definitely need to change 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.159 that about you. But at the same time, I also 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.760 think there's something about your underdog status that was really 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.880 endearing throughout the series. And I also don't think that 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.400 we always need to win. I think sometimes being clipped 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.159 just that little bit means that you work just that 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.440 much harder, and as long as you don't give up 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.039 and you keep going, I think sometimes coming second or 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.320 sometimes just competing is important. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:54.080 Yeah, definitely. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:54.599 I agree. 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.120 It probably keeps that bit of fire burning inside your 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.400 belly to keep you wanting to go on to morow 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.360 and something new. So I've never been one to sit 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.560 back and dwell on what's happened. I know you do 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.400 for a day, but then you've got to get back 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.200 on the bike and you've got to go again. So 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.640 I think I've still got that drive to do something 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.080 where you could quite easily say, oh this is me. 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.640 I'm done, and i don't mind what's next, and I'm 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.520 happy where I'm at, because I'm never going to be 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.840 happy where I'm at. I'm one of those guys that 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.000 likes to keep spending money and growing, and whether it's 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.600 the business, or whether it's the family house, or whether 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.320 it's something else, it's just just a passion of mine 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.200 that I'm not happy where I'm at. 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:33.440 Yet. 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:34.480 You know, you only get. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.120 Out a lot what you put into it, and I 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:38.760 just still want to grow in and leave some of 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.240 the beautiful kids that I've got and look, there's already 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.920 a few bits and pieces. But the bigger that I 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.640 get and the more I do, and the more I 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.160 can give them, And that's what I'm all about so 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.000 definitely haven't heard the last of me. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:51.720 That's for sure. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.320 That there's something bigger and better just around the corner 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.480 for me, I think, and we've just got to find 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.000 what that is and take it full noise and hopefully 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.080 do it the best time and come number one. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.280 I think that there was something about you that is 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.360 in your eyes. And I don't know whether or not 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.600 this now makes me seem creepy, like I was watching 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.120 too hard. But you're a bit of a dreamer, do 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.200 you know what I mean? And you're the type of 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.680 guy that moves on to the next project and dreams 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.640 up something big and to get onto Master Chef to 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.200 come second, this is a huge it's a huge achievement 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.480 like this doesn't happen to other people, and I think 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.320 that that comes down to the importance of dreaming big. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.000 Look, I totally agree. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.280 I've got a lot of people and look, there's some 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.199 bad stories about it, but I'm not going to get 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.320 into that that people around here think that I am 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.320 a dreamer and he's never going to do it. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.360 But I like to prove people wrong. That's me and 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:40.920 I am a dreamer and. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.400 I've got these so many big ideas that what I 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.600 still want to do. You know, I want this restaurant 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.040 and I'd love a small goods plant at the back 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.600 of it, and I'd love a gin distillery and to 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.280 make my own whisky. And so everybody comes in and 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.720 they can drink more whiskey and drink the gin, and 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.800 you know, and see that the meat hanging in the 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.160 dry aging room, and get taught to make sausages and 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.760 eat a beautiful steak, and you know what I mean, 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.960 that whole experience of what's so beautiful here in Tasmania. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.959 So I've still got a lot of big dreams. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.400 And what eventuate from that is is going to be 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.880 entirely up to me and where I want to take it. 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:19.160 So the kids, I want to teach them to think. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:19.800 Big their self. 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.559 This is a small place, but it shouldn't be small 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.400 smith and shouldn't be a small place that nobody. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.000 Wants to come and visit. We should get everybody. 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.280 You know, there's so much beautiful beef, so much beautiful 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.560 vegetables and lamb and the produce available here in the 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:35.880 home of Cape Grim Beef. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.360 And look how big is the dairy industry in here. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.600 We should have ice cream shops, and we should have 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.160 chocolate shops and we should have everything here. 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:44.880 It's just so beautiful. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.960 We've just got a cheese shop, and we need to 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.120 get people off that boat at Devonport and getting to 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.360 turn and ride instead of going to Hobart, Like I 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.160 think they can go that way too, but we've got 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.240 to mix it up a bit. So three and Big 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.600 Life's you're icedy and know if you have a real crack. 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.880 I love Tasmania. So that was just an advert Tasmania. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:02.840 I think Andy might have said, Oh it wasn't Andy. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:04.840 I think it was. Curtis ed it as well. He 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.840 was like, this man is a walking, talking advertisement for Tasmania. Yeah, 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:10.040 he told me. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.720 Said to me once before, he said, look, Peza, if 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.319 you're not running Tasmanian soon, something's wrong. You are tourism 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.880 Tasmania written all over you, like there's they should be 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.240 gobbling you up and just running with your ideas, because 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.600 who comes on a show like this and just cooks 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:31.120 all Tasmanian produce And you know, you just believe and 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:32.320 you're believable. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.800 Your story is believable. So yeah, it's easy. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.640 If you do believe, you can sell things that you're 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:38.520 passionate about. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.120 It's harder to go on and. 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.719 Me to sell something that I don't love. But what 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.360 we produce here I love and I'm passionate about, so 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.560 it's easy. It's an easy sell for mate. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.480 I'd love to know how many people actually now go 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.679 to Tasmania because you're on this show. I feel like 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.480 there'd be a lot. I wish that we could just 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.800 do a little you know, a little click as they 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.240 walk through and then you get a little bonus. That'd 0:10:59.280 --> 0:10:59.560 be good. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.160 Sound sounds good. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.880 I'm all for that. Well, I speak to you in 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.240 a week's time and you'll be the face. You'll be 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:06.079 the face of tourism. 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:06.480 You know. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.720 A few questions about the show. I'd love to know 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.240 who was your biggest support throughout the filming process, throughout 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.960 the cooking. Who was it that you were there cooking 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.560 alongside that was your biggest supporter. 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.360 It was a if you noticed, it's not like a 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:20.760 cup road competition. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.960 We're all really really close, like we support each other. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.000 But I guess I lived with Steve O, which was 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.720 the crocodile man, Steve Dennis. It was a good mate 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.440 early on, and Juan de la Cruz, you know, the 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.240 Argentinian man. That was our little group. There was me 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:41.280 and him and Steve myself and one and even being 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.079 John O. That we sort of hung together pretty close 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.680 early days. And then they sort of went sort of 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.400 around that fifteen twelve to fifteen sort of position, and 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.560 I was sort of left not left alone. But then 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.600 I guess we sort of, me and Dash become roommates 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.640 and become pretty close and hung out and we always 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.000 cook together. Look sad and submit and look they used 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:06.839 to cook big feast. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:08.240 We was all pretty close. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.920 But I guess probably my best friend on the whole 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:15.280 show would have been one I would be and yeah, 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.560 but then got really close towards Dash, Harry and Lockey 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.440 towards the end because we went pretty deep. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.800 They've guys. So look, a very hard question because I 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:24.360 love them all. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.800 No, it's a hard question because also, Master Chef, what 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.600 people don't realize is so chaptered. You know, when people leave, 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.360 your living conditions change. You know, you might be then 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.080 by yourself for a little bit, but then they move 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.120 someone else in with you. So it's a very unusual 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.040 process behind the scenes over such a long shoot. And 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.160 Master Cheffer, I think is the longest shoot that we 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.040 do for a reality show these days in Australia. So 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.880 you know, it's quite the process, no doubt. 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.480 You're looking at nearly half a year's it's a big commitment. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.079 And that's the thing. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.880 More you get close to people because they see you're 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.720 ups and down, you know, especially the guys. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.439 I think, the people you live with. You know what I've. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.280 Seen and down from all them guys. I've seen, you know, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.520 Steve O go home. I've seen him go through that 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.160 emotion of going home. I seen the people that I 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:09.880 was with, I seen them all go home, because obviously 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.200 it was only I was the end. But that's hard, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.520 and it's you know, you try and talk and we 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.959 have our ups and downs with bad cooks, and you know, 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.240 you come home and we used to eat a lot together, 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.400 just sit down and cook a meal for each other. 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:24.160 And there's a lot of. 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.400 Nights when you come home and I just shut my 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.680 door in my room and went to bed and had 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.439 a shower and got in bed and didn't have anything 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.400 to eat, and you're just down because the cook just 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.880 didn't go to plan. And I just talked to the 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.160 wife for a few hours on the phone and then 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.920 hit the sack and had to be revitalized and energized 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:43.760 for the next day to go and do it all again. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:44.880 That's what it was like. 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.079 So but all I could say is very supportive everybody 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.199 on the show. I could not say that I had 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.480 any trouble with anybody, and I don't think anybody had 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.559 any real trouble with anybody. Maybe an argument here and there, 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.600 we didn't see eye, but nobody hated each other by 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:00.320 any means. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.679 I don't think you asked that show that way anyway, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.600 you know, like that's exactly right. They're not looking for that. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.480 Probably got a bit competitive, That's all i'd say. Once 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:09.480 we got to the top. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.240 Five, But you're paying for a quarter of a million dollars, 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.800 like it's you understand that, And a lot of people 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.120 give up their jobs to go on there, like I 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.040 didn't have to do that. But you've got to give 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.600 credit where credits to a lot of people change their 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.840 whole life for that show. You know, left really good jobs, 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.840 left had had mortgages and went on to a show 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.160 that it's really tough, and then got to go back 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:31.800 out and try and make it in this world of 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.320 being a chef now, like a lot of them are 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.560 trying to do that and trying to make a name, 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.600 and a lot younger than me and not as well 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.120 established as where I was when I went into the competition, 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.720 So I take my hat off to them sort of 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.000 guys young You know, there was a couple of school teachers, 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.240 me and Me and James that left school teaching for 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.400 twelve months and now they'll probably go back to it, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.520 but I don't know when they could, and. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:54.960 It's a big it's. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.360 A big thing, So good on them for having a 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:58.800 crack and putting themself out there. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.760 What was the dynamic like with you and nat on 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:03.920 the day? And I just spoke to Nod about this 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.520 and I thought it was really interesting because you both 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.320 are in there so passionate to win, And I talked 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.920 to her about how emotional you were to win. That's 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.440 a strange process to have you both in there side 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.160 by side competing like that. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.280 Yeah, me and Natty got on really well. 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.040 We probably didn't spend a huge amount of time in 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:25.600 the early days together, but look, I was so happy that. Look, 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.400 she was the force to be reckoned with to start 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.520 off with. That's who was all chasing I say her 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.520 and Sad were really fantastic. They were already made chefs 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:36.640 when they come through the door. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.720 That's what their flavors were. Unbelievable. I had to just 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:41.120 crawl before I walked. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.200 You know, I knew that I had to work hard 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.360 where it was natural to them guys. But when we 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.920 got down to the last two, I guess the last five. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.160 For me, I was just cooking with love and having 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.920 a bit of fun. And wherever I went, I went, 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.760 I didn't I still wanted to win, don't get me wrong, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.720 but I just enjoyed it. Whereas when I first started, 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.360 I didn't want to be the first to go, and 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.240 I didn't want to I wanted to make that the 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.480 top fifteen, and I wanted to make the top ten. 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.400 But when I got down and I'm standing beside her 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.960 in the grand finale, you know, I thought, and it 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.560 sounds bad. I had everything to win and she had 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.400 everything to lose. I thought, you're missing. And that's the 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.000 way I see. You know, some football matches, you know 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.240 you're going, and I was the underdog, I thought, so 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.760 I needed. I just needed to really enjoyed it and 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.680 see if I could pull off a miracle Abita. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.800 So we cheered each other on. There was no well 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.720 I don't know what she said, but I didn't feel 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.000 any acts against each other. 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.720 We just no no love. She was very Yeah we 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:36.520 loved each other. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.680 Yeah, we loved each other's company, and we're having a 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.360 bit of fun. I said, you got this, you know, 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.840 and she said, like, hell, Pezzy, you know what you're like. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.360 I said, you got me with three points in the 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.800 early one and no, no, they'd be silly. Pezzy. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.200