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Speaker 2: This is Claresy and Lisa's podcast Today.

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Speaker 1: This is the Claresy and Lisa Rewound podcast with some

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Speaker 1: of the bits you may have missed.

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Speaker 3: A couple of months back, we did Claresy and Lisa's

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Speaker 3: Perth pub crawl and we caught up with Dave Crosby,

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Speaker 3: who was once the lead singer of Ice Tiger. The

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Speaker 3: band had an interesting blend of musicians. Dave, you had

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Speaker 3: a rock metal background, you did. Graham and Steve had

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Speaker 3: been in one of the city's more popular top forty

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Speaker 3: cover bands. Never the twain were meant to meet and yet,

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Speaker 3: you know, how did you find each other and go, well,

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Speaker 3: actually this is really going to work.

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Speaker 2: Well that's really quite a long story.

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Speaker 4: We got together by accident and possibly people that we knew.

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Speaker 4: And I went to see Flash Harry that who was

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Speaker 4: working with and I thought, oh, yeah, this guy's dangerous,

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Speaker 4: you know. And he heard that my band True Colours

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Speaker 4: And once we'd got the rehearsal over and done with

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Speaker 4: and we started work. Graham and I we went to

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Speaker 1: And once we scored.

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Speaker 4: The venue, we came out, sat in his van and

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Speaker 4: we started singing a song, an old Ronnie Dio song

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Speaker 4: it absolutely perfectly. I sang the main pup, he did

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Speaker 4: And then he just sort of folded his arms and

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Speaker 4: he said, do you remember an annoying little kid that

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Speaker 4: came up to you in the mid seventies and you

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Speaker 4: gave him a lift home? And I looked at him

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Speaker 4: and I said, you're not him. Nobody else could have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It is unreal.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we got.

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Speaker 4: Really close for many years, and we wrote some pretty

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Speaker 4: good tunes together. Also, Don Benson was a really good

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Greenie was always my perth. Steve Vai or someone

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Speaker 1: down on the night that the album was launched in

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Speaker 1: ninety one, right in front of him down there, that

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Speaker 1: was something pretty special and the fans came out, didn't they.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he is an amazing guitarist. He always has been.

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Speaker 4: I was privileged to work with him, to be honest

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Speaker 4: and think, and we did have a good partnership. You know,

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Speaker 3: We know you played at the Charles. Lost of good

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Speaker 3: memories from the Charles. What are some of the other

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Speaker 2: In the day.

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Speaker 3: The Herdsman, Yeah, Raffles, of course, the Raffles, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Your first show was in Management, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember a New Year's Eve?

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Speaker 5: What do you go?

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Speaker 4: Well, I just didn't expect to have as many people

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Speaker 4: must have built it really well for us. Like I said,

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Speaker 3: Friends start for you know, live acts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing, right, your first Perth show was at

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Speaker 4: I think it was. It just came naturally as a

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Speaker 1: Everything right right?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was up for it. Yeah, so it worked

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Speaker 1: What were the pants of choice for you, mate? Were

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Speaker 3: Jeans, Glamorox not for you very rock and roll.

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Speaker 1: Quite a few of the hand the hairbands are wearing it.

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Speaker 2: More c More Lisa More podcasts soon.

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Speaker 3: This is the Clary Lisa Rewound podcast Lord of the Rings.

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Speaker 3: The Power of the Rings has been on TV recently

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Speaker 3: and we got to chat to a boy from Frio

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Speaker 3: by the name of Tyro Muhafaden, who was plucked from

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Speaker 3: obscurity to play THEO in the series. Tyro, how did

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Speaker 3: it come about that you were plucked from school in

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Speaker 3: Frio aged fourteen? You're nineteen now for season one?

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Speaker 6: I have honestly no clue. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'm really really grateful to be in this position. It's crazy.

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Speaker 5: I just set off an audition and then they liked me,

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Speaker 1: I'm any better than that. What was it like those

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Speaker 1: early days on set in New Zealand and that such

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it was so scary, so daunting.

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Speaker 5: But to be honest, set that big, especially like so

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Speaker 6: But I had such great castmates.

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Speaker 5: Who really like made me feel comfortable and great directed

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So back to that audition.

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Speaker 3: You're at John Curtin Senior High School, you're fourteen, You

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Speaker 5: So really crazy story. I was actually considering quitting acting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, full of pins. Yeah, so that illustrious career.

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Speaker 5: So I've been doing it since I was nine, and

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Speaker 6: If I enjoyed it anymore, had it they know?

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Speaker 5: And then I told my agent. I was like, look,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I want to do this anymore.

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Speaker 5: She was like, we just put a tape down for

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Speaker 5: rings and you're actually shortlisted, so let's let's hold on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, six months went past, didn't hit anything, and then

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Speaker 6: By the way, I'm like, oh cool.

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Speaker 5: And I thought that was an achievement in itself, and

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Speaker 5: then it moves really really quickly. They were just like, actually,

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, yeah I did. It was kind of

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Speaker 5: And then they gave me the role a week later,

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Speaker 5: and yeah, I guess they kind of they kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I moved slow that it moved really fast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then you're there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, what can you tell us about season

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Speaker 3: two and what Theo's storyline might entail, because well, THEO

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Speaker 2: Can we expect more dark times?

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Speaker 6: Possibly?

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Speaker 2: Job I Tolkien.

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Speaker 6: Ye, the men of the Southlands don't have it easy.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, so THEO lost basically everything at the end

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Speaker 6: He's grieving this season.

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Speaker 6: Then we get to watch him grow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's profound. Speaking of growing growing up, what about

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Speaker 1: What did they see, Giu younger? What was going on there?

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Speaker 6: It's so funny. They actually the plan was they were.

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Speaker 5: Predicting that my voice was going to drop during this

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Speaker 1: It was just awesome.

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Speaker 6: You didn't get the boy that they cast.

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Speaker 2: Took care of itself.

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Speaker 3: Now you shot season one in New Zealand, but season

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glastre was it Comic Con in Perth recently? Well,

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Speaker 1: And it's such a cool day down at the convention

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Speaker 1: bye toys. I know you love the comic cons. What

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Speaker 5: I actually went to Comic Con a month ago in

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Speaker 2: The big one that's the wild Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I haven't wrap my head around.

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Speaker 1: Actually, have you got a figurine mate? Have you had

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Speaker 6: I haven't. Actually, I might demand one.

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Speaker 3: I should mention that comic con is already insane, as

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Speaker 3: you say, but then j R. R. Tolkien fans are

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Speaker 3: some of the most hardcore in the world. On top

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Speaker 3: of that, how have the fan interactions been.

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Speaker 2: What's the craziest thing of fans asked you to do?

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Speaker 5: I don't think there's been anything too crazy. I think

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Speaker 5: sometimes they find out hotel and I have no idea

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Speaker 5: how We're just like killing somewhere, and then all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden there's just a group of them down at

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Speaker 5: the entrance. I'm like, how did you know we were here?

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Speaker 5: But that's kind of cool. I think that people are

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Speaker 5: passionate enough to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the basics like super.

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Speaker 5: Supportive and I've only been shown love, which is really

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Speaker 5: really great, and I feel super motivated to put my best.

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Speaker 6: In for them.

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Speaker 3: More Clezy, more Lisa, more podcasts soon.

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Speaker 1: Like a C grade movie starring Can I call him

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Speaker 1: Ian Zering?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He likes iron but does he think he's.

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Speaker 1: Iron Man or something? And Zering used to be in

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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills nine Ozer two and but he made a

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Speaker 1: couple of Sharknado movies. Scientists have discovered cocaine inside sharks

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Speaker 1: caught off Brazil and.

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Speaker 2: The cocaine inside shark.

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Speaker 1: Inside sharks and they're not smugglers. No, well, it might

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Speaker 1: be something to do with smuggling, but they're concerned it

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Speaker 1: maybe changing their behavior because they're saying that perhaps the

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Speaker 1: drug being digested by these animals is making them more

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Speaker 1: aggressive and unpredictable in their behavior.

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Speaker 3: You're going to need a bigger note, the biggest supply.

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Speaker 3: How is the cocaine getting to them? It's just getting

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Speaker 3: into the water, so they think he's getting into the water.

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Speaker 1: You don't have they test out week and they go, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's so much mess. Not tests on thirteen Brazilian sharp

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Speaker 1: nose sharks.

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Speaker 2: Nose. Yeah, I'm Steve when nick stars. If they're not.

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Speaker 1: Careful nose, they'll soon be known as white nose sharks

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Speaker 1: if I keep this out. Taking off the waters of

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Speaker 1: Rio dated Era revealed they had high levels of the

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Speaker 1: recreational narcotic and their liver and in their muscles. Sharks,

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering what the fishermen. Their music is bait?

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Speaker 2: It's going on? What's going on? It's not early a

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Speaker 2: party mix?

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Speaker 1: A party mix is right, which makes me think of music.

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Speaker 1: But they're saying that are less likely source than just

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Speaker 1: at being in the water in general, is the sharks

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Speaker 1: of feeding on bales of cocaine that were lost or

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Speaker 1: abandoned by that of course, by prosthetic smugglers or those

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Speaker 1: who've gone, or we might be they might be onto us,

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Speaker 1: will bolt and just leave the gear here.

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Speaker 3: On the up side, they they're less likely to eat

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Speaker 3: you because they're not going to be as hungry you.

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Speaker 2: Actually, they'd to chat your ear off.

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Speaker 1: Min do you've heard of steaks on a plane? Now

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Speaker 1: it's sharks in a cartel. Don't worry, I mind you.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see the movie.

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Speaker 2: They're they're all just raving. I think I think they

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Speaker 2: are crazy and Lisa ninety six avem

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