1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: My name is Aatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: woman and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Ganya Nianar kaka ya Ya bin Ahaka nian Ar gay 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: In Nimbina, yakarum jar Dominyamka Domaga Ithawakaman damon Imlan bomber 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: bang Gadabomba in and now in wakah ghana on yak 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: rum jar Watnadaa. Hello, beautiful friends, we gather on the 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: lands of the Aboriginal people. We thank acknowledge and respect 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the Aberiginal people's land that we're gathering on today. Take 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: pleasure in all the land and respect all that you see. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: She's on the Money podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: bringing you the tools, knowledge and resources for you to thrive. 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: She's on the Money. 14 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 15 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: that lets you be pervy about other people's money habits 16 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 4: for educational purposes, of course. Welcome back to another one 17 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 4: of our money Darius, where I get the absolute pleasure 18 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: of sitting down and talking to one of our beautiful 19 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 4: She's on the Money community members, all about their journey. 20 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 4: Let's jump straight into it, because this week I got 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: a message and it sounded exactly like this dear, she's 22 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: on the money after going through one of the hardest 23 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: things you can go through. I wanted to share my 24 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: story in the hope it helps other mums navigating similar challenges. 25 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 4: I always thought I was doing okay with money. My 26 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: husband and I saved forty grand in six months and 27 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: moved five hours out of the city to buy our 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: first home. I thought we were on track, but after 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: the still birth of our daughter, everything changed. The banks 30 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 4: want to help, and my workplace didn't know how to 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: support me. I had no idea how many financial hurdles 32 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 4: I'd face while also grieving. Now, I want to raise 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 4: awareness of what financial systems look like in moments like this. 34 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: Money Diarist, welcome to the show. 35 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 36 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I feel so privileged that you want 37 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: to share your child's story with us and you want 38 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 4: to talk to me. Oh, I just I know that 39 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: that's probably not how but like, thank you for wanting 40 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 4: to chat to us. 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: No, that's okay. I'm very happy to share my story 42 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: and my journey now that I've been through what I've 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: been through and hopefully educate a bit more to everybody. 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: Well, before I jump into the deeper questions, what great 45 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: would you give you? Money? Habits from A three to F. 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: If I asked right now, I'm a C. 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 4: You're a C. All right, let's see what that's about. 48 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: I need to be canceled, honestly. But money diarist, can 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 4: you tell me a little bit more about your journey? 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: So I grew up feeling, you know, not ever worried 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: about money. Both parents. It's worked in local government, so 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: it was always a safe money environment. There was never 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: any issues. I grew up always watching my mom do 54 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: a budget on a spreadsheet, and to this day she 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: still does it. She still calls me once a month 56 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: says I'm doing my budget today. So I grew up, 57 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: you know, watching mom did that, and I have a 58 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: memory of we won five thousand dollars once in the 59 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: early two thousands, and that was a huge deal. 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: Well in the early twent thousands, that's like twenty grand oh. 61 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: So my parents like paid a heap off the mortgage, 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: but we got one hundred dollars each meet my brother 63 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: and I. 64 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: That would have felt like a thousand at that point, I. 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: Went and bought a Pokemon Gold Gain for my game 66 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: Boy Color and I thought it was the best thing ever. 67 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, good journey of money growing up, always felt safe. 68 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: Left school, took a little while to get to my 69 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: career and finally settled in that in about twenty seventeen, 70 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: and slowly worked my way up and just kept working, 71 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: taking a few holidays here and there, and then when 72 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: the pandemic kit, I was very lucky kept my job, 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: worked from home, actually got promoted during that time. In 74 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: between some lockdowns is when I met my now husband. 75 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: For you'd how did you guys meet? 76 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: We met in real life? 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: Oh? What the hell? Yeah, so through a lockdown you 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: met in real life. That just feels like almost fake, 79 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 4: my love. 80 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: It was in between some lockdowns, but it was still 81 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: in the rules where you couldn't stand. You had to 82 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: be sitting at bars and clubs and all that kind 83 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: of stuff. So we met like we weren't both planning 84 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: to go to that establishment that night, but things went 85 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: that way, and he came and sat at my table 86 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: because I looked bored. 87 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: So whoever you were with wasn't entertainment as much as good. 88 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: So we got chatting, swapped Instagrams, and then had our 89 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: first date a week later. 90 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: Kids, these days, you don't swap numbers. 91 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: No, we swapped Instagram so he felt a number was 92 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: too forward and the snapchat was too seedy. So Instagram 93 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: is where we went. 94 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 4: I like that there's a middle ground for us now. 95 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: We very quickly met and spoke about how we didn't 96 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: really want to live in the big city anymore. And 97 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: after knowing each other for six months, my lease was 98 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: running up where I was living in a sharehouse, and 99 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: he said, well, let's do this. So I moved in 100 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: with his parents and we knuckled down and saved forty grand. 101 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 4: That's how you saved the forty grand. That's a lot 102 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: of money to save in a short period of time. Like, yeah, okay, 103 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 4: moving in with the brand new in laws. Was that 104 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: challenging because I feel like I would have been so anxious, 105 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: like girl, I don't know. I feel like it took 106 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: literal years for me to go, Oh, I don't have 107 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: to be so highly strung around my husband's sperience. 108 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: It was definitely experience. It's also like moving from a 109 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 2: sharehouse to like a bedroom and all that kind of stuff. 110 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: So putting stuff in storage and downsizing a little bit, 111 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: but we knew it was going to be worth it 112 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: to get out and move. So in early twenty twenty two, 113 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: we bought our house remotely. We didn't actually see it 114 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: in person. We had to just do a FaceTime because 115 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: things were moving so quickly that when we saw it 116 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: pop up online, we called them that afternoon. They said, 117 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: come look at it tomorrow, and we said we live 118 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: five hours away, so we got a FaceTime the next day. 119 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. Property can be so hard, and that 120 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: just puts even more pressure on you, Like you just go, 121 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: oh goodness, Like we're gonna have to do this FaceTime, 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 4: make a decision really quickly. And I'm sure that they 123 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: were like there are lots of interested parties, weren't they. 124 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was someone else at the house when they 125 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: were walking us through virtually. Oh so we very quickly 126 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: put in an offer twenty grand over asking, but we 127 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: still bought our first house for four hundred thousand dollars. 128 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: Hey that's good. 129 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it was a four bedroom, reasonably like rashly painted, 130 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: had a pool, had a little shed, had a big yard. 131 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: So we were like, yeah, compared to you know Sydney 132 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: to out here. We were like dawn, you. 133 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 4: Like six seven months from a sharehouse to buying a 134 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 4: house with a pool. I love this for you. 135 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: We were pretty proud of ourselves. A lot of people 136 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: were still like, what are you doing? But that's what 137 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: we wanted to do. We didn't want to be in 138 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: the big city anymore. We want a different lifestyle, and 139 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: we up and moved up here. 140 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: So early twenty twenty two, you bought how long was 141 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: your settlement was at like normal standard three months? 142 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: It was standard, but we had early access so we 143 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: could every weekend we literally on the Friday night, we'd 144 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: pack up cars. We'd leave at like four am Saturday mornings, 145 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: come up, do stuff in the house, see our friends, 146 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: and then drive back to Sydney on the Sunday. 147 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: Hey, not bad, but also you do what you've got 148 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 4: to do right or you don't miss those days though. 149 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: Exciting but also a long slog. 150 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. So well, I moved up in July twenty twenty two, 151 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: but my partner was a truck driver at the time, 152 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: so he kept working in Sydney, so I was by 153 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: myself at home in a new job too. I got 154 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: a new job at that time, and I lived up 155 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: here by myself during the week for the first six 156 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: months of us moved up here. 157 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 4: So you've been together six months, you buy a house, 158 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: you live together for another six months. At what point 159 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: does this man that asked for your Instagram come your husband? 160 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: So he then proposed in September of twenty twenty three, 161 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: and at this point we were pregnant with our first child. 162 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: So we fell pregnant in the May of twenty twenty three, 163 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: and he proposed over breakfast, and he organized the whole 164 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: thing from his truck while he was driving. He got 165 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: his mum to go by get the ring. He asked 166 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: for permission with a ten pack of Jack Daniels to 167 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: my dad's place, all that kind of stuff. 168 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: That's so sweet. 169 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: Organized it all remotely, and. 170 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 4: Is that like a proposal that you were like, this 171 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: is so me Yes, oh I love that. 172 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: And it was such a random restaurant. He's like, where 173 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: do you want to go for breakfast? And I chose 174 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: when he went are you sure? And I was like, yeah, it's. 175 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 4: Just breakfast to do. It's not like we're getting engaged. 176 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: But it actually ended up being nice because I was 177 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: like overlooking a park and all that kind of stuff. 178 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: So it's so cute. 179 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's September of twenty twenty three, and 180 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: he said, let's get married quickly. I want us to 181 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: have the same last name, all that stuff before the 182 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: baby come. So the baby was due. 183 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 4: Because you got you were pregnant in May, right, and 184 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: then you go. 185 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the baby was due on Valentine's Day of 186 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. 187 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: How was your pregnancy because I feel like sometimes. 188 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: I was really crook, so and then you know, when 189 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: you look back and find out why I was really crook. 190 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: And we got to mid November, so we were getting 191 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: married mid November, organized it all. We did full DIY 192 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: on a friend's farm. 193 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 4: Oh my god, girl, you were pregnant and planning a wedding, 194 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: and you would have been like heavily pregnant. 195 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: I was. We got married, I was twenty seven weeks. 196 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 4: That's a lot of weeks, especially if you're feeling a 197 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: bit trashy. 198 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, so we're in November, I'm feeling a bit crook. 199 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: Getting follow ups and all that kind of stuff. Went 200 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: to have a scan on a different part of my stomach, 201 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 2: and that part was near where the baby lives, and unfortunately, 202 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: that's when we found out the baby had passed away. No, 203 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: I was twenty six weeks. 204 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: Twenty six No, Oh my goodness, Like, I don't know 205 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: how that feels. And you know what, I'm not even 206 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 4: going to try and say that I do, because it 207 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: is so different to anything I've ever been through. But 208 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 4: just the idea that you weren't prepared for that like, 209 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 4: it's not as though I can't explain it. But having 210 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: been through unfortunately now me four miscarriages that were quite 211 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: late term for two of them, there were things that 212 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I'm just feeling as though this 213 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: maybe isn't right, but you were there for something else. 214 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: And then they were like, by the way, oh the 215 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: fact that you didn't even go there is reduced movements 216 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: or I just I really feel like something's up. You 217 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 4: just got completely blindsided a girl. That is not fair. 218 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: I was told I had an interior placenter, so I 219 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: was told you won't feel much, So me not feeling 220 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: much was normal. So on the Saturday afternoon, I went, oh, 221 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: I felt a kick, And then the Sunday I went, 222 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: I haven't felt much. And you know, if you were 223 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 2: told not to don't worry, go in Monday afternoon for 224 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: a scan on my kidneys and my bladder because I 225 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: was crooked and that's when they found out. So this 226 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: is Monday afternoon. 227 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 4: Oh far, I'm so. 228 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: So we get up to the hospital this Monday afternoon. 229 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: My husband's just gotten back from thankfully driving back home 230 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: not to Sydney. Tell him, jump in the car up 231 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: to the hospital, get up to the hospital, and they 232 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: say you have to give birth. No, and I just 233 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: went okay. That's because I was not educated at all 234 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: about what happens when this happens. 235 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 4: But you don't know what you don't know, and in 236 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 4: the nice way, ever, it's kind of nice that you've 237 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: not had any experience of this. 238 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: Before, reflecting. All I got was a pamphlet sometime in 239 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: my pregnancy saying still birth might happen to you, and 240 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: that was it. So I get up to the hospital 241 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: and we're chatting through when I'm going to give birth, 242 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: and that's when I dropped that we get married that Saturday, yeap, 243 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: So we very quickly had to put a plan into place. 244 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: So that was the Monday night. I went back to 245 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: hospital the Wednesday and I gave birth to my beautiful 246 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: little girl. 247 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: Did you get to spend much time with her? 248 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, and she was the most beautiful little thing. 249 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: She's got a cutes little nose. So I spent some 250 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: time with her, and then I had to stay in 251 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: hospital until Friday. Of course, so my husband went, I 252 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: need to be busy, so he left and did all 253 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: the wedding stuff, so the marquee, portoloo, the food, the alcohol, 254 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. So he went kept himself 255 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: busy with. 256 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: That, honestly, fair Like, I get wanting to be busy, 257 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: but at the same time, I'm assuming every single person 258 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: going to your wedding knew that you were having a baby. 259 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: Yes, we had kept the pregnancy quiet until twenty weeks. Yeah, 260 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: and then but everyone so that that's when all our 261 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: family on what the Tuesday, said are we coming up now? 262 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: And we said, no, leave us. We'll do this by ourselves. 263 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: And so we did all the giving birth by ourselves. 264 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: But friends popped around to the house to check on 265 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: the dogs, for example, because you just we just dropped 266 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: everything and ran and I just was told to rock 267 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: up to the wedding really in my dress, which is 268 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: what I did. 269 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: Stop and what is that like? Because like, you're marrying 270 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: the love of your life, right, you are the man, 271 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 4: I'm assuming of your dreams and that was like something 272 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 4: that you look forward to and I'm sure since you 273 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: were little, you're like, one day, I'm gonna have the 274 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: big light dress. I'm gonna have a wedding, and like 275 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: you guys were so excited to get married. It was 276 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 4: like September to November. 277 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 2: It was an eight weeks that I planned a wedding. 278 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, hustling to get married, and like there was probably 279 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 4: I don't know, I feel like it's a little bit 280 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 4: romantic if you're pregnant and then getting married, because it's 281 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 4: just it's a love bubble. Like you're in this bubble 282 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 4: of like we're having a baby, we're getting married, We're 283 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 4: doing literally everything all at once. What's that like? Like 284 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: I'm going to cry like I did. 285 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: Oh, it was a rollercoaster. I think I had not 286 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: really been alone until I had an hour before I 287 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: had to get ready for the wedding, and I just 288 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: sat there and I just went what has happened over 289 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: the last week? And one of my cats had come 290 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: up to me and crawled up and noticed that the 291 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: like she used to crawl up on my tummy and 292 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: now she noticed there was nothing there, and that like 293 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: her look on her face and she's. 294 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 4: A cat, it's creepy. 295 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: Hey. Yeah, So yeah, I just kind of I drove 296 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: myself to hair and makeup and drove myself up to 297 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: the wedding, got changed at a friend's house around the corner, 298 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: and then walked down the aisle and we spoke to 299 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: our celebrant the day I was giving birth and told 300 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: her what was going on, and she was amazing. She's like, Okay, 301 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: what are we doing here? What do you want mentioned? 302 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: What do you don't want mentioned? So we kind of 303 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: started the day like, you know, we reflect on what's happened, 304 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: and because of what's happened, it shows how strong these 305 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: two love each other. And we associate my daughter with butterflies, 306 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: so you know, we talked about the butterflies that were 307 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: circling all that day stop. 308 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: And of course they were, and I bet they just 309 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: hung out the. 310 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: Whole day for no reall one hit me in the 311 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: face as I was getting photos done. Yeah. So then 312 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: we got married, and then then after that you then 313 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: sit down and go, Okay, what do you do. Now 314 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: we're married, and my husband had to go back into work. 315 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: You took a few more days off, it went straight 316 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: back into work. Was actually starting a new job as well, 317 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: which meant you would be home all the time, which 318 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: was great. But I remember also having to call my 319 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: work and explaining. I said, my daughter's been born sleeping 320 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: and my workplace said, what does that mean? 321 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: How do you guys not know what that means? 322 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: So that was really that was something to navigate, and 323 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: they didn't know what the options were. So thankfully now 324 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: we've been through all the options, they have all the 325 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: detail because I'm very strong about educating that this is 326 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: going to happen and for people to be prepared in 327 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: all shapes of life. 328 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. So that happens, you obviously take some 329 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: time off work. Then what does life look like after that? 330 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: So in Australia, after twenty weeks or if a baby 331 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: is born over four hundred grands, it's classified as is 332 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: stillborn and therefore they get a birth certificate and you're 333 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: entitled to the government benefits. So I had two options, 334 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: which was the normal paid print or leave that every 335 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: parent can take, or a still born payout, which is 336 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: around four thousand dollars last time I checked, which is recently, 337 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: which for me was about a month's salary. And I 338 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: looked at it and I went, I don't think I 339 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: can just go back to work after Christmas. So I 340 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: decided to do the paid print or leave option, but 341 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: that just wasn't enough, So I ended up going back 342 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: to work two months earlier then I had hoped. 343 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: But you also probably had a bit more freedom and 344 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: flexibility than the fore grand payout. Is that right? 345 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had the option. Like, my husband has made 346 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: me a very strong person, and he said, if you're 347 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: going to take time off, what are you going to do? 348 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: So I did put in effort to like going to 349 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: the gym and doing little bit for me, made sure 350 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: I did everything every day. I'm a very big tailor 351 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: Swift fan, so I spent a lot of time making 352 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: friendship bracelets because I wasn't going to get to go 353 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: to the ears too, because I was due exactly when 354 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: she was here. So when everything happened, my friends all 355 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: came to and I got to go thankfully six times. 356 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 4: Actually yes, oh my goodness, your friend came in clutch. 357 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: So I got to come down to Melbourne for three 358 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: shows and I went to Sydney for three shows, and 359 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: it's just the most it was the most healing thing 360 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: because I'm very big, swifty, seen her multiple times and 361 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: all my friends made me a bracelet with my daughter's name, 362 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: you stop. So this arm was full of bracelets with 363 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: her name, which was beautiful. So just it was a 364 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: very healing time. And then yeah, I actually fell pregnant 365 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: again just before I left for the ears to us stop, that's. 366 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 4: So special as well? What's that like? Like, what is 367 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: it like having gone through that and then finding out 368 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 4: you're pregnant again because you know again And I'm not 369 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: trying to make this about me. I think this is 370 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 4: definitely a completely different story. But like I am the 371 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: most anxious pregnant person ever because I I'm just not 372 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 4: good at staying pregnant, Like I've now lost four pregnancies, 373 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: and so being pregnant means that I'm quite anxious the 374 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 4: whole time. I'm like, this isn't going to work out, 375 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 4: This isn't going to work. But your situation mine mine 376 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: is nothing in comparison to yours, So like, how's that feel? 377 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: With my first daughter's pregnancy, I was very much like 378 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: testing every single day and had to see the line 379 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: get darker, and it got darker and I got darker, 380 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: and I paid for extra blood tests to make sure 381 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: the numbers were rising. But with my second daughter's pregnancy, 382 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I didn't. I kind of 383 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: got the positive blood test, I went, Okay, we're just 384 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: gonna sit. Obviously my experience is going to be different. 385 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: I had to start blood thinners immediately. I also was 386 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: up at the hospital at ten weeks, and where I 387 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 2: am usually don't go till twelve and then twenty weeks, 388 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: so I had continuity of care this pregnancy, which I 389 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: didn't have last pregnancy. 390 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: You're like, you just need that extra hand holding process. 391 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: I literally saw my and I'm in the public system. 392 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: We don't have a private option really where I live. 393 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: But the public system when you're a high risk pregnancy 394 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 4: is honestly like, I won't say flawless, but pretty flipping good. 395 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: Well. I was high risked with my first pregnancy too, 396 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 2: so it was just very different experiences. So when I 397 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: got to sixteen weeks and we did another skin they said, 398 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: it's now your choice. What do you want to do? 399 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: I decided to come fortnightly. Yeah. So because my first 400 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: daughters was growth restricted pretty much. Is what she's passed 401 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: away from is mount nourishment. Well, she was too small. Yeah, 402 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: my placenta was the issue. It was full of blood 403 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: clots and therefore stopped. 404 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 4: So you would have had to start aspirin really early off. 405 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: Yes, that too. So my biggest thing was seeing her grow. 406 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: So every two weeks I wanted to see. 407 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: I want to see gain. I want to see her longer. Yeah, 408 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: I see her tracking on the graph. 409 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: And the irony is that she was a weak ahead. 410 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: Every single mum, mom stops stressing. 411 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: I got this. I had kicks all the time, but 412 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: it was still it was a very anxious time and 413 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: therefore we didn't announce my pregnancy at all. We kept 414 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: it to ourselves and close family and friends only. We 415 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: just dropped on Facebook after she was born an surprised guys, Hey, 416 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: we've had a child. So yeah, So I got induced 417 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: it thirty eight weeks, which is I really pushed for 418 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: because I just had physically had enough. 419 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: Honestly, fair like, I'm not gonna lie. I envy those 420 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: women who were like, pregnancy is so magical, it's the 421 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 4: best time, I really worshiped my body. Girl, I've never 422 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 4: felt worse in my life, like I trying to roll 423 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 4: over in bed, like I did not enjoy it. I 424 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 4: couldn't breathe, like I just felt like trash all the time. 425 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 4: I vomited on literally everything, like one out of ten 426 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 4: ye experience. I envy people, you know what. I say 427 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 4: this all the time to my girlfriends. I'm like, parenthood 428 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: absolutely for me, like I was born to be a mum. 429 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 4: Pregnancy though, that's not my journey. 430 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, but I was just as last ten weeks, 431 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: especially once I got past twenty seven weeks, it was 432 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: still just every week was like, is everything okay? 433 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: And even after that point, was her weight tracking well? 434 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: Yes, she came out at four point two kilos at 435 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: thirty eight weeks. She was well and truly. 436 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: Did not need those extra a few weeks. 437 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: Nope, No, So. 438 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 4: I love that. I love that so much. So tell 439 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 4: me a little bit more. I guess you said you 440 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 4: didn't go back to work. What do you do for 441 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 4: work and how much money do you earn? 442 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: So I'm now back in my job, which is an 443 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: executive assistant in local government. Oh, very cool and I'm 444 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: on eighty eight thousand plus Sooper. 445 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: Oh, hey, that's good. And does that like because it's 446 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 4: local government, does it increase every year? Is there like 447 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 4: a plan? 448 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have like steps, so I'm I think I'm 449 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: at that last step now in my grade and we 450 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: get the like the CPI increase and stuff as well. 451 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: But at the moment, I'm just doing three days a 452 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: week with a transition to be back full time in 453 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: a few months. So tell me about your second daughter. 454 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: When was she born? How old is she now? So 455 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: she's seven months old. 456 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: It's not fit delicious, she is delicious. 457 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: She's got arms like a croissant. 458 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: I love that, my baby. So when Harvey was born, 459 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 4: he was like three and a half killers, which is 460 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 4: like bang on, like standard baby size. And then I 461 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 4: swear he ate a different baby and left the hospital 462 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: and he has been the chunkiest boy ever since. And 463 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 4: it is my favorite thing ever, the little chubby wrists. 464 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's got those. 465 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 4: She's so cute. I love this. So talk to me 466 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 4: about money goals, Like you've bought the house, you've got 467 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: the pool, You've moved like I guess into state. What 468 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: is your big money goal? What are you guys working towards. 469 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: So in the midst of everything that happened, we also 470 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: sold our house. We went on this everyone, you guys okay, 471 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 2: because we sold a lot of stuff. We sold our 472 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: house and we moved another thirty minutes north and so 473 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: now we're on a property that's like half an acre 474 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: a lot quite at town. But this still isn't the forever. 475 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: So we're definitely starting to work towards getting some acreage 476 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: something like five to ten just to have some cows. 477 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: And my husband communities right on moer. 478 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 4: Oh my god, So tell me about that, because if 479 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: you're you've sold your house, you moved into this one, 480 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 4: and you're like on a little bit of land, are 481 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 4: you expecting that to increase in value and then move 482 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 4: or like, have you got like little plan? 483 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: We spoke at the beginning of the year and like, 484 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: do you want to do anything in twenty twenty five? 485 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: We said, no, let's just kind of settle into being 486 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: parents and all that kind of stuff, and let's just 487 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: keep smashing out our mortgage, which we are. So we've 488 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: paid nineteen thousand off the principal already in fourteen months. 489 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: The way we do it as well, is I've switched 490 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: to weekly repayments, but we also do forty dollars a 491 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: day we send over to our mortgage. Great, so that 492 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: we're doing something every single day because of the daily 493 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: interest rushing. 494 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: Downe that interest And for those of you who maybe 495 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: haven't deep dove into like what that actually means interest 496 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 4: calculated daily on your mortgage. So the end of the month, 497 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 4: they kind of go, oh, you have a thousand dollars 498 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 4: interest due. But if every single day you are cutting 499 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: that down, that at the end of the day means 500 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: at the end of the month, less interest is owed 501 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: and therefore more of the money that you've paid off 502 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 4: over that period of time actually goes to the real 503 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: loan instead of the interest that is payable. So that's 504 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: a really smart idea. Some of them do it that way, 505 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 4: some of them don't. So if someone's listening and they're like, oh, 506 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 4: I'm a good nurse, like money dires a genius, I'm 507 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 4: going to do it, don't just implement it, like have 508 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 4: a chat to your bank about what that actually means. 509 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 4: All you're broker about how to implement that. But money 510 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 4: dires that's quite smart. 511 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: We looked at it actually last night and we were 512 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: doing the math, and if we didn't put anything extra, 513 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: we'd only pay five hundred off the principle a month, 514 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: and that feels like nothing, but us doing it this 515 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: way is paying an extra fifteen hundred. 516 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: Dollars off stop. That's so significant. Have you calculated how 517 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: much time that will save you? 518 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: I think so far, we've already cut three years off 519 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: the loan. 520 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 4: Stop it, and you haven't even lived there that long. 521 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: We've only been here fourteen months in this house. 522 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you've cut three years off. So by the 523 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 4: time you guys move again, you'll probably be like twenty 524 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 4: year mortgage or something. 525 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: Hopefully. 526 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my goodness. I love this for you. Do 527 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 4: you have any other big money goals that you're currently 528 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: working towards. 529 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 2: That's the main one, is really just finding the forever 530 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 2: home as nice and as quiet as it is here. 531 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 2: It's a I don't like the layout very much, and 532 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: it's obviously very cold, and we've got just fireplaces and 533 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: gas heating, and I'm like, I just want some doctor 534 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: their con and I'd love to go on a proper holiday. 535 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: We went on a honeymoon when I was eight weeks pregnant, 536 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 2: with my second daughter, and that was not a vibe. 537 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: And we're on a cruise, which was probably not the best. 538 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 4: To you, like, how can I make this pregnancy worse exactly? 539 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: And it was one day I went, am I sea 540 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: sick and my morning sick. I don't know, I'm just sick. 541 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 4: Oh No, Like, I'm not gonna lie the idea of 542 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 4: being pregnant on a cruise. Girl, you just really wanted 543 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 4: to watch it well burned. 544 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: I really I don't know what I was thinking. But anyway, 545 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: because we booked it before we felt pregnant, like I 546 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: think it was like in December, after everything happened. Really, 547 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: let's book our honeymoon. 548 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: What a great trip. And then you get pregnant. You're like, 549 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 4: I'm actually perpetually seasick, and now I'm going to get seasick. 550 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: This is perfect? 551 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: Is great? 552 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 4: Oh I love that pet, Money, Doris, So let's go 553 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 4: to a really quick break because I have a lot 554 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 4: more questions and we'll get to them in a hot minute. 555 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: All right, money Dorist, we are back, and I feel 556 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 4: like your priority is clearly smashing down your mortgage and 557 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 4: you are really good at it. But do you have 558 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 4: any investments? If so what are they? What do you 559 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: think about investing? 560 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: I am in the middle of a bulk listen of 561 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: the backlog of shares on the money, so I feel 562 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: like investing is definitely front of mine at the moment. 563 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: I have just started a SHARE's ease yeah great in 564 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: the last week. But outside of that, I have just 565 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: my SUPER at the moment and. 566 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 4: Working in local government, do you get more super than 567 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 4: the average, Beth? 568 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: I think it's twelve percent. 569 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. And how's your super tracking? Are you happy with it? 570 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: Have you been looking at it? 571 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been checking it and I did notice a 572 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: little dip. Obviously, I haven't had super paid pretty much 573 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: all of this year yet because I've been on Central 574 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 2: Link since the beginning of the year. 575 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 4: How annoying because Sendlink has just updated to paying it 576 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 4: super as off July, so you just missed out on that. 577 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. 578 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: And I'm not planning on any more babies, so it 579 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: won't be any pregnancy is not for me anymore. 580 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 4: We are done. 581 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: I'm too and done. So I'm at sixty five thousand. 582 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 4: Oh my god. Okay, you're doing really well for your age. 583 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: When I looked back, is I've only been doing Super 584 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: for ten years, just because when I started, I was 585 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: late to the game. I didn't start working till I 586 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: was about eighteen because I had some big surgeries when 587 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 2: I was younger and I couldn't do much, So I 588 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: didn't start working until I was eighteen, and it really 589 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: with all the fees and stuff, I didn't really start 590 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: getting Super until twenty fifteen. 591 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 4: So, hey, look. 592 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: Sixty five over ten years, I'm pretty. 593 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 4: Happy, pretty well, even though it's tiny, that additional percentage 594 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 4: that gets paid, like it does pay off over time, 595 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 4: like it doesn't like a lot. You're okay, I guess 596 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: it's better than a kick in the pants. But then 597 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 4: you look at it after ten years and you're like, oh, 598 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 4: actually that did significantly contribute to my returns, which is 599 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: very very nice. Now talk to me. I need to 600 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 4: know more. You bought another house, but we have no 601 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: information on the debt that you carry. How much did 602 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 4: the house cost, how much is your mortgage? What does 603 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: all of that look like? 604 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: So the house we're in now we bought for five 605 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five thousand, and that's on half an acre, 606 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: four bedroom house. I'm so envs And we had a 607 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: ninety k deposit from the sale of our first house. 608 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 2: So we bought the house for four hundred thousand dollars 609 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: and eighteen months later we sold it for four hundred 610 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: and eighty two thousand dollars. 611 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 4: Very nice. And you guys had that forty thousand deposits, 612 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: so you basically flipped that in eighteen months to be 613 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 4: from forty to ninety. 614 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: And we added like an air con to it and 615 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. And then we now owe 616 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: four hundred and seventy five thousand on this house. 617 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 4: And how does that make you feel? 618 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: I think we're doing really well. 619 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 4: I think you're doing really well as well. 620 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: I'm pretty happy with it. 621 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: I'd prefer not though. 622 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: No, I'm still waiting for the day we win the 623 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: lotto because my husband wrote in his wedding vows that 624 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: we would. 625 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 4: Well call me when that happens, because I have a 626 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: few good financial advisors that are literally with stuff like that. 627 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 4: It's coming, so you'll need their details. 628 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: Right exactly exactly it's next week. 629 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 4: Do you have any other debts? 630 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: So at the moment, I have a credit card debt 631 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: of about eleven thousand dollars and it's not pretty, but 632 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: it just shows that you kind of need that little 633 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: bit of support, especially when on paid Printally, I was. 634 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: Going to ask, like, what's that made up of? Is 635 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 4: that going on paid parental leave? In your diary that 636 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 4: you wrote in you were like, I really want to 637 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 4: talk about, you know, the awareness of financial systems. Did 638 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: you win to debt after having your first daughter? 639 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: I think so. I think we did. I had to 640 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: cut back on a lot of things. I kind of 641 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: went I had about one thousand dollars a fortnight drop 642 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: going on to Centerlink. I got a couple of leave 643 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: options from work and I used those around orygment even 644 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: things like that, and then I went into Centerlink. So 645 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: we're at the point that we were selling our house 646 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: and the broker said, we're really sorry, we understand what 647 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: you've been through, but the banks don't count center Link 648 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: as an income, so right now you don't have an income, 649 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: so therefore we wouldn't have been allowed to borrow for 650 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: the house. 651 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 4: For in now, which actually makes me. I own a 652 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 4: mortgage broken company. So I see that stuff all the time, 653 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 4: and it makes me so angry because you could have 654 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 4: worked with the same company for ten years and then 655 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: taken parental leave and had a legit central ink income. 656 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 4: You could have been the most financially savvy person. You 657 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: could have saved for the last ten years to take 658 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 4: this period of time, so financially you're not behind, but 659 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 4: the banks like you have no money by It's not true, 660 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 4: but it's so frustrating. So what did you do to 661 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 4: get around that? 662 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: I went back to work early. 663 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 4: Oh, that's the last thing you needed. Was that really 664 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: painful to go back to work. 665 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: I wasn't ready to go back to work. I was 666 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: due to go back after six months, and I went 667 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: back after four and I feel like I probably needed 668 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: a little bit more time. But it's just the way 669 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 2: everything fell. And I believe everything happens for a reason. 670 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: So it's okay, but it was really disappointing that the 671 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: banks were just like, sorry that you've had a loss 672 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: and sorry that you're on Centerlink. They wanted proof of 673 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: savings that we couldn't. You know, it was tens of 674 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: thousands of dollars. It's just not there. 675 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. That part of it makes me so 676 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: angry because it's like, where's the leniency? Like anyway, I 677 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 4: won't go on and on about that, because I absolutely 678 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 4: could so I want to dive a little bit further 679 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: into this eleven thousand dollar credit card debt. Talk to 680 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 4: me about that. Is that something that gives you the eck? 681 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 4: Is that something that you're like, Nope, we did it 682 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: on purpose because you know, I have a seven month 683 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 4: old and we knew that we're going to be behind, 684 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 4: and this is a tool and we're just going to 685 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: smash it out later. Like what's the plan. 686 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: That's the plan is to start smashing it out as 687 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: my income increases going back to work. I've redone my 688 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: budget that I've been doing for years that haven't really followed. 689 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: It's been there on and off, but I've pulled it 690 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: back up and gone, no, no, I need to help 691 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: smash this out as well. So I'm changing. Like, it's 692 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: not really a percentage, it's just kind of working out. Okay, 693 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: there's going to be left over here that goes straight 694 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: onto the credit card. But it does kind of show 695 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: you that at the moment, sixteen hundred dollars a fortnight, 696 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: it is really hard to live on when you are 697 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: trying to do a mortgage. 698 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: Food. 699 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: I mean, thankfully she wasn't eating for a while, but 700 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: she's just started eating so adding in food, fuel, all 701 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, plus just enjoying your life. 702 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 4: So babies are just expensive, like nappy is expensive, and 703 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 4: they add up wipes and like, who knows you might 704 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: be using formula. I couldn't believe how expensive formula. 705 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: He's forty dollars a ten at the moment a week 706 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: for her. 707 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 4: That's the same as what Harvey was on. And it's 708 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 4: kind of like even if you look at the cheaper ones, 709 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: Harvey refused them. I tried to be like, oh, I 710 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 4: did all my research. I was literally on chat GPT 711 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 4: being like the national value of this versus this, because like, 712 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 4: you know, you don't want to do wrong by your kid. 713 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: I get that deeper one and he's like, what is this? 714 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely not? And he also would not take anything less 715 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 4: than the bloody thirty dollars bottles, Like he refused. 716 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I had to switch bottles. She didn't like 717 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: the bottles bottle. 718 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 4: He wasn't drinking out of it. 719 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 2: There was just ruda. I bought you this beautiful new bottle. 720 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: Not interested. 721 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 4: I tried to buy the Audi nappies because all of 722 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 4: the mum's on my Facebook group were like, oh the 723 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 4: Audi nappies are great, go and buy them, and I'm like, slay, 724 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 4: like ten out of ten for us. They leaked everywhere. 725 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 4: I was like, what is this? Why do I keep 726 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 4: trying my hardest and being picked? 727 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: It was just building up slowly. But it's just things 728 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: like you know, she grows so quickly, and next to it, 729 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: you're having to go buy the next size up and. 730 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: You want him to look through as well. 731 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: Like yeah, well, yes, she's a bow girl. 732 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 4: Yes. Honestly, it was a money win for me when 733 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 4: I gave birth to my son and they said it's 734 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: a boy. I remember on the first day, I thought 735 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 4: this is going to be great for our bank account 736 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 4: as opposed to me them like is that a dress? 737 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: Can I I'm just gonna go. Let me just have 738 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: a look at that. 739 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 4: I'm a boy mum. And still if I wire past 740 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: country Road and see the little girl outfits, I'm like. 741 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: Oh what is that? 742 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 4: That is the cutest thing ever. I can't look away. 743 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 4: If I had a little girl, I'd be done for. 744 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 4: I'd be canceled. 745 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: I'm starting to find a dress for a wedding we've 746 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: got to go to in a couple of months, and 747 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: it's just like, oh my gosh, she's only ever going 748 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: to wear it once. Oh, but it's so cute. 749 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 4: I'm on your team. Please any pictures because I live 750 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 4: vicariously through girl Mums money direst Talk to me. I 751 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 4: feel like, yes, you're in credit card debt, but I 752 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 4: feel like it was inevitable given the situation. Talk to me, though, 753 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 4: what do you think your best money habit. 754 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 2: Is definitely become a points queen. 755 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 4: Oh okay, I love your skip. 756 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 2: So that was the reason to get the credit card 757 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: in the first place. For things like I've switched to 758 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: shopping at Wally's to get the everyday rewards. We're flying 759 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 2: for this wedding interstate, so we've been like saving up 760 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: the points for that kind of stuff. But everything we 761 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 2: go to buy, we go can we get points somewhere 762 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 2: from this one year for flight? We just did all 763 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: fly bys one year and then that at Christmas with 764 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars in flybys points. So that was how 765 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: we went Christmas shopping. 766 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 4: Oh, your genius. 767 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: So we're very much into points. 768 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 4: People like, it's a dollar here, a dollar there. Yeah, 769 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: and over a year it becomes eight hundred bucks. It's 770 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 4: eight hundred dollars you didn't have before, isn't it. 771 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: So very much into points and just any way that 772 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: we can get some more points. 773 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 4: My team and I really like doing the like double stack. 774 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 4: We're doing the points, but then we're also making sure 775 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: that when we accumulating points, we're also using cash back, 776 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 4: so we're like shot back, cash rewards, literally any of it. 777 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 4: Who's giving the best discount or the best cash back, 778 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 4: we'll use that. And I would like some Flybys points 779 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 4: to boot thank you. I think I've been on shop 780 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 4: back for I want to say three or four years 781 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 4: now smart and it's sitting at four hundred and seventy dollars. 782 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 4: That's Christmas. 783 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: But like even I did a shop the other day 784 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: and I got twenty dollars back and it was like 785 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: a Bond's order or something for one hundred bucks. And 786 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 2: with I think it was only a few days ago, 787 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: so with their sales and everything and end of financial year, 788 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 2: I got twenty dollars cash. 789 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 4: Backe and that money just like stockpiles over in the side. 790 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 4: Then you'll have a couple of hundred bucks to make 791 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 4: a decision with money wien. That is a good deal 792 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 4: on the flip side though, tell me what do you 793 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 4: think your worst money? Howit is? 794 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 2: Food? 795 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? Same girl? Are we eating out? Are we cooking 796 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 4: expensively at home? What does that look like? 797 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 2: Now? We're going through a drive through? 798 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 4: Because do you follow me on Instagram? By chance? 799 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:23,479 Speaker 2: Yes? 800 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 4: Have you seen how many times I go through the 801 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 4: McDonald's drive through? You can't stop, won't stop. 802 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: I think as soon as I also was not pregnant, 803 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 2: it was like, give me the soft serves and the milkshakes. 804 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 4: That's fair. 805 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 2: And also, I mean you'd think living thirty minutes out 806 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 2: of town means that you don't have the temptation of 807 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: the drive through. Now every time I go to town, it's 808 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 2: on the way out of town. 809 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 4: So how do you say, notice some GPAs For. 810 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 2: Me, it's like a vanilla milkshakeh. 811 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 4: A vanilla milkshake? 812 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: Do you know what? 813 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever had a vanilla milkshake? Does 814 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 4: it just taste like soft serve? 815 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: Pretty much? 816 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 4: Okay, maybe I need one of those on the way home. 817 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: Just we're going to see that on the store tonight, 818 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: you will. 819 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 4: I'll be like the money dist today, not naming names. 820 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: So definitely, yeah, food and sometimes with concerts and stuff. 821 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 2: It's like I've got to be there. Not that I 822 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 2: go to many, especially even regionally. It's a whole thing 823 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 2: to go to a concert and. 824 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: Then back to Australia. I just know that credit card 825 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 4: would absolutely be slammed. I'm onto you. 826 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 2: Well, going back a little bit, I did that whole 827 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 2: tailor thing, six shows. I did all of that funder 828 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 2: two grand, which I'm pretty impressed, with a lot of 829 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: nose bleed seats. Yeah, so you're still there, which didn't matter. 830 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 2: I feel like it didn't matter how far back you where. 831 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 2: It was still the same vibe. I didn't sit on 832 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 2: the floor all but I sat probably every angle of 833 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 2: stadiums and didn't matter I was you were in the room. 834 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: It really didn't matter. 835 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 4: I love that for you so much. Is there any 836 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 4: other worse money habits to share? I feel like that's 837 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 4: probably sufficient. 838 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: I think so. 839 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 4: I feel like you're killing it though, Like you are 840 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 4: an EA in local government, which is really secure job 841 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 4: eighty eight grandy year plus super and it's good super. 842 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 4: You've been through a shitload and to only have eleven 843 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 4: grand of like credit card dead and also you're like 844 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 4: within the process of like upgrading your home at some point, 845 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 4: I feel like you're fine. Yes, that would probably be 846 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 4: stressful when you look at it at three am, because 847 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 4: we've all got blinkers on and that gives us anxiety. Right, 848 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 4: But I feel like in the big picture, like sometimes 849 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 4: when you have kids, we do financially have to take 850 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 4: a step back because it is hard, Like it is 851 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 4: not easy to go through that process and go you've 852 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 4: done it twice in the last few years, like two babies, 853 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 4: two periods of time where you've had time off, two 854 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 4: periods of time out of the workforce, Like that's stressful 855 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 4: and expensive. Then you said, look, I'm a SEA. But 856 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 4: then you're like, also, I'm a points queen, Like, girl, 857 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 4: get it together. Are you a points queen or are 858 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 4: you a C? 859 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll bump up to a B. 860 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 4: I feel like a B is far more reasonable. Like, also, 861 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 4: it sounds like you and your husband are really savvy 862 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 4: when it comes to finances, Like you planned a wedding 863 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 4: in eight weeks with deer. Do you remember what you 864 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 4: spent on your wedding? Because I have a sneaky suspicion 865 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 4: it wasn't one hundred grand I. 866 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: Think we spent eight c She's sadly my dress cost 867 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 2: My husband's outfit costs more than me because he needed 868 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 2: new boots, new jeans, new shirt, new hat. I wore 869 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: the same boots I always have, and my dress was 870 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 2: I want to say, one hundred and sixty. 871 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 4: Dollars on my what that is money? 872 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: We and I'd bought it for my pregnant body because 873 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: I still and I still had a bump on my 874 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 2: wedding day because I hadn't gone. I think the most 875 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 2: of that eight grand was probably the celebrant and the alcohol, 876 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: and even that we had so much leftover. 877 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 4: And so did you guys cater I'm just so pervy. 878 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 4: Did you guys cater that like yourselves? Because you said 879 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 4: that it was at a friend's farm, right. 880 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so my father in law, Owen's a butcher shop. 881 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 4: Okay, nice. 882 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 2: So we had literally the ovens, did all the meat everything. 883 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: So one of our friends did all the catering. We 884 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 2: just ran it on generators. 885 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 4: I'm a cea, but you're a genius. I love it. 886 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 4: I love it. I hope that in the future, when 887 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 4: you're back down for a future Taylor's with concept, we 888 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 4: get to run into each other in person, because I 889 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 4: just feel like you and I are going to get along, 890 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 4: Like I think that you are a queen, and I'm 891 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,919 Speaker 4: just so excited to share your story at the same 892 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 4: time as just feeling like we need to be talking 893 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 4: about these topics so much more, like we shouldn't just 894 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 4: be sweeping them under the rug. Like I want to 895 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 4: know about your daughters, I want to know about what's 896 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 4: going on, but I also want to know how hard 897 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 4: it is financially when you go through those things, Like 898 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 4: I hate the idea that you had to go back 899 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 4: to work when you weren't ready, and I feel like 900 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 4: that's not like, oh, I had to go back to 901 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 4: work too, because my daughter had to go into day care, 902 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 4: Like it's a completely different story. Like mentally, physically, all 903 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 4: of those things, you were just not ready, And I 904 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 4: think that financially there should be so much more support 905 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 4: in that area. 906 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, completely agree. 907 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 4: Thank you for sharing your story. 908 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: Thank you for being an avenue to be able to 909 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 2: share my story. I appreciate it. 910 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 4: Of course, of course, you guys are always safety at 911 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 4: Money Darst. It has been a pleasure. 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