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Speaker 1: This episode of the Surge is brought to you by Origin,

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Speaker 1: proud partners of Cricket Australia and powering the Power Surge

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Speaker 1: in BBL fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Caay everyone, and welcome to the Surge.

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Speaker 1: Here from the MCG where we had seventy thousand people

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Speaker 1: here to watch the Melbourne Derby and we had one

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Speaker 1: man live out a dream in front of a packed

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Speaker 1: MCG hitting the winning run. And see's the captain of

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Speaker 1: the Renegades. His name is Will Sutherland. You've just done

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Speaker 1: something very special, Will.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what, It's still pretty surreal at the moment, a

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Speaker 3: bit lost the words obviously dream come true for mine

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Speaker 3: as a Melbourne boy. To play in front of this

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Speaker 3: many people is amazing, let alone to be able to

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Speaker 3: play a part in a win for the Renegades at

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Speaker 3: the end. So I'm incredibly pumped and I hope this

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Speaker 3: sort of kickstarts our season for the Gates.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about from a season point of view in

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Speaker 2: a moment.

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Speaker 1: But you've been sitting in the seats watching your cats

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Speaker 1: or watching Australia play growing up so many times in

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Speaker 1: front of a packed house. Here's to be out there

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Speaker 1: in the middle hitting those winning runs the feeling, what's.

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Speaker 3: It like, Well, it's imagine it's about as close I'm

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Speaker 3: cool from that point of view. Even walking out the

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Speaker 3: race and saying this many people tonight was amazing. Just

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Speaker 3: trying to be clear out there and not get overawed

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Speaker 3: by the moment.

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Speaker 4: Because you know, it was pretty special.

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Speaker 3: So I'm incredibly happy for you know, I was a

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Speaker 3: cricket that so many people turned out and yeah, I'll

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Speaker 3: still pinch myself at the moment, a bit lost the words,

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Speaker 3: but it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: So are you thinking about the amount of people that

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Speaker 1: are that are watching you in that moment that hundreds

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Speaker 4: But I think I did pretty well tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's as simple as that, just trying to watch

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Speaker 3: to go. There's definitely in between balls things are coming

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Speaker 3: into your mind all the time, like you know, all

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Speaker 4: Many people here?

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Speaker 3: But just got to go back to your process and

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Speaker 1: I know, you want to bat higher up the order

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Speaker 1: if you can, but that role in that sort of

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Speaker 2: Potentially hit a six off the first ball you face.

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Speaker 1: But to go out and close out the game like that,

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Speaker 1: it's not an easy thing to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably haven't done myself any favors tonight, but

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Speaker 3: I even said the Whitey tonight, can I get up

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Speaker 3: to five here if we take the surge? But that

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Speaker 3: got shut down, So not really getting up there anytime soon.

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Speaker 4: But it's what I've done.

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Speaker 3: Most of my white ball batting around has been able

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Speaker 3: for the Renegade as long as I can play a

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Speaker 1: Now you've got that mace, that very heavy mace that

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Speaker 1: There was a fair bit of feeling in the game tonight,

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Speaker 1: especially from some of the elder boys were in Green.

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Speaker 2: It got quite tense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were certainly up and about when they took

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Speaker 3: I reckon it's definitely a real rivalry and that got

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Speaker 3: And it was pretty cool to have Jackson Morn come

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Speaker 4: That was a big moment for myself.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: The fact that seventy thousand people turned out does kind

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Speaker 1: and then when the games play with that sort of intensity,

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Speaker 2: Definitely felt real tonight.

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Speaker 4: Definitely.

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Speaker 3: I've speaking to some kids in the crowd trying to

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Speaker 3: that's awesome for Australian cricket and Victorian cricket, and the

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Speaker 3: for this month and me and HARPSI were just having

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Speaker 1: Is hard playing against teammates in that situation, considering particularly

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Speaker 2: To have that aage or is it just come out

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Speaker 3: The guys my age is definitely hard. I think I

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Speaker 3: I think this is the one game I can comfortably

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Speaker 3: I can get them, get behind them when they're not playing.

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Speaker 2: Us, and the win from a significance.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about who it was against, just to almost

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Speaker 2: It's a really important game for you tonight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think regardless of the fact that it's the Stars,

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Speaker 3: and that shows that we can take it up to

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Speaker 3: It definitely helps batting second but our bowling has been

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Speaker 4: It always a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: Fielding, we've made a few bozies we could have been

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Speaker 3: We had that seventy five plus, which is what we've

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Speaker 1: Two games in a row for Josh Brown he's amazing

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Speaker 2: What's he like to watch?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he just stands so still. His power is limitless.

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Speaker 3: I've just played two rounds of golf with him and

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Speaker 3: It's just annoyed me for two days. And I'm happy

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Speaker 1: What did hek is achievable this year for this team.

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Speaker 1: It's still relatively early in the competition, particularly for the

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Speaker 2: You've played less games than anyone else. What do you

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think anything's possible.

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Speaker 3: I think five wins probably will be enough in light

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Speaker 3: team competition, so we've got to win three more, but

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Speaker 3: this definitely give you a lot of belief and that's

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Speaker 2: We'll take the mace home with you.

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Speaker 4: Well done.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on not only the win, but how you finish

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Speaker 2: It was. It was great to be hit.

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Speaker 4: Tonight, blanks wide. He appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Will Sutherland, the captain of the Melbourne Renegades and the

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Speaker 1: man that hit the winning runs. Okay, so we have

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Speaker 1: heard from the winning captain, Will Sutherland. The green side

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Speaker 1: of things with Sam Harper, who's made more runs in

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Speaker 1: the BBL than anyone this year. Sammy, thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: us on the surge. It would have been better under

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was an amazing game of creed. I think

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Speaker 5: which is a big part of this competition. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's a cricket love for myself. Yeah, pretty unfortunately on

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Speaker 5: the wrong end, but a good night a creet Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: You've played in a lot of these and you've played

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Speaker 1: for both teams. Can you believe that it's got back

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Speaker 1: to those heights seventy thousand hits tonight?

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Speaker 2: You mean you've played in a number.

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Speaker 1: Of different you know, through COVID before COVID, so you've

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Speaker 2: It was pretty big tonight.

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Speaker 5: Man, It's amazing what even the last few days, knowing

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Speaker 5: You hear the murmur and then you get their anticipation

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Speaker 5: to be out there batting with Tommy Rodgers in front

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Speaker 1: Was pretty cool. What's that feeling like when there's that

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Speaker 1: many people there. You've played that here in front of

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Speaker 6: That like it's unreality. I mean, like any kid.

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Speaker 5: I was grew uping one turner, playing in the backyard

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Speaker 5: And yeah, obviously there's some nerves because you want to

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I was pretty excited walking out to that.

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Speaker 5: To be honest, it was cool feeling.

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Speaker 1: How different is it compared to when you do it

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Speaker 2: Does it feel like a totally different place? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, they're probably lying if I said it was. And

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Speaker 5: you know, first and foremost how much I love the

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Speaker 5: Vix and how much I love playing for the Vix

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Speaker 5: and how much I care about that. But yeah, I

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Speaker 5: don't think anything quite gets the heart rate going like

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Speaker 5: sixty or seventy thousand people doesn't open in the batting

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Speaker 5: with Tommy there?

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Speaker 1: What was it like from an age? I was talking

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Speaker 1: to Will Suthern about this earlier, about you know, the

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Speaker 1: rivalry and whether it's fabricated or whether it's real. It

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Speaker 1: felt real tonight, especially you guys as you were making

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Speaker 1: that late charge.

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Speaker 2: There's a fair bit of emotion out there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean were cricketers who want to win and

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Speaker 5: we're all very competitive. So I was shouting when we

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Speaker 5: lost to the Brisbane Heat the other night, and I'm

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Speaker 5: disappointed when we lose the Renegade. But I think definitely

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Speaker 5: when you get sixty or seventy thousand people here, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you get so though in with thirteen or six and

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Speaker 5: perfect script really, apart from it not going our way unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: What's happened in the last two games for a team

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Speaker 6: So it's just such small things. We're playing great cricket again.

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Speaker 5: We made two nds with the other night and nearly

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Speaker 2: Maybe this year.

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Speaker 1: The motions they really there's a determination to do something

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Speaker 6: So yeah, we want to make that six or seven.

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Speaker 5: I think Whitey I targeted having access to the off

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Speaker 5: I probably wouldn't have played few years ago, would have

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Speaker 5: That's at the end of the day. Our job as

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us, so I know

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Speaker 1: it's stuff after a loss, but especially the insights for

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Speaker 1: see about your angame.

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Speaker 2: Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, easy, Warty anytime.

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Speaker 2: Sam Harper joining us. Unfortunately on the losing side tonight.

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Speaker 1: They get to do it again next week and another derby,

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Speaker 1: this time at Marble Stadium.

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Speaker 2: I hope you've enjoyed the super over tonight of the Surge.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch you again with the next episode back in

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Speaker 1: the studio with Mike Hussey.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch you again there