1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Now we were contacted earlier in the week by a 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: young man whose mum has had her car extensively damaged 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: by thieves, as I understand it, and debraah Fisher joins 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: me on the line right now. Good morning, Deborah, Good 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: morning Katie. How are you not too bad? Can you 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: tell me what happened to your car? 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: So five o'clock Saturday morning, I'm sound asleep in bed 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: and I get a phone call that I thought was 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: a prank call at first, and it ended up being honest, 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: and it was the police, and they said they're at 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: the front of my house. So I walked out to 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: the front of my house and a stolen car had 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: rammed into the side in the back of my car, 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: so damage my car quite extensively and completely rode off 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: the stolen persons the stolen car as well. 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: So, oh my goodness, Yes, what a call. 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: A great way to wake up. 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: No, what a call to wake up to. 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: That's luck. 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. Yeah, I know, tell me how bad is 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: this damage to your car? 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: To my car? The whole quarter panel and the back 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: door and all underneath. I don't know the technical term 24 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: for it, that all of the the axle that holds 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: the two wheels together has all bent, and one of 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: my wheels, the back wheel and the driver's side is 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: completely buckled and ripped apart. And yeah it's there's yeah, 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: quite a few thousand dollars worth of damage. 29 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: All this while you were asleep. Yes, and absolutely no 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: fault of your own. Your car is just parked what 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: is it? Just parked on the street, just. 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: Parked on the side of the road. Yeah, so just 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 2: out the front of my house. I share with some people, 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: so the cars are all in the driveway and I 35 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: just parked on the side of the road and yeah, 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: just minding my own business and wake up. And you know, 37 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: I own my car. So now I am left with 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: no car, so I'm having to walk to work and yeah, 39 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: oh dead. 40 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: That is unbelievable. It is because do you know what 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: the thing is about your vehicle? Is it your independence? 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: You know, no matter who you are, no matter where 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: you come from, no matter what it's worth, it is 44 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: your independence. And that's what I always teach my kids. 45 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: You know, you've got to look after your car because 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: it's your independence to get to where you need to go. 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: So for you to be in this situation through no 48 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: fault of your own is pretty bloody disgraceful, it really is. 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel for the people that had their 50 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: cast all and as well, like they're lost out as well. 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: So two people just went to bed on Friday night, 52 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: work up Saturday morning and our both of our worlds 53 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: have just changed now. 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: So do you have any idea how much these repair 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: bills are going to cost? 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: For myself? I don't just yet. I've been working with 57 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: the lovely people from Anti Oh for good mistake, I've 58 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: forgotten the name of it Anti Towing, and they're going 59 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: to tow the car for me and I have to 60 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 2: take it to it tresh repairer. I can't even drive 61 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: it like it's it's completely undrivable. So that I've had 62 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: a mechanic have a look at it and he said 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: there's there's quite a bit of damage. 64 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, now tell me as well, you know, is 65 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: insurance going to cover it? 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: Unfortunately no, I can't claim from the owner of the 67 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: stolen vehicle's insurance because they weren't in charge of the 68 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: car and double am I have told me that they 69 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: won't cover me. And unfortunately last year I had a 70 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: bit of a stay in hospital for a little while 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: and some health concerns, and I changed my rego from 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: MT from Sorry, from Sinsland to the NT and it 73 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: just completely got lost in the in the day to 74 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: day living, and I didn't renew my insurance. So I've 75 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: got the compel free third party with my registration, but 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: not insurance for myself unfortunately. 77 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, So you're in a situation right now where 78 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: where you literally have to foot the bill for this. 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: I do? I do? 80 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. That is. 81 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: That's such a terrible situation to be in. Are you, like, 82 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: are you going to be able? Are you going to 83 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: be able to manage? 84 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to try. I'm gonna there's opportunities to 85 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: work right now. So I think I'm going to be 86 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: getting a probably a second job, but I think he 87 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: just nearly fifty eight. I have to get a second 88 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: job to be able to afford to pay for the 89 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: repairs and to if it's not repair able, then I 90 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: have to get myself another car. So yeah, it's not 91 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: really you know, if you go to bed on a 92 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: Friday night and wake up on a Saturday morning and 93 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: the car that I own because I owned my car. 94 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: Is you know, I just it's quite I'm just indescribable 95 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: how how you feel. It's it's kind of just shocking 96 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: that I feel. 97 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: Really honestly, I feel really sad for you. That is 98 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: such a shitty situation to be in again, through no 99 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: fault of your own, your car being run into by 100 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: a stolen vehicle, and then to wind up, you know, 101 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: in a situation where you're not in covered not covered 102 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: insurance wise. Look, sometimes we you know, we do have 103 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: very generous people listen to the show, so you know, 104 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: we'll keep we'll keep you posted if if there is 105 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: any way that anybody can sort of help. But I 106 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: really feel for you, deb what a difficult situation you're in. 107 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for telling my story because I 108 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: know I'm just one of many unfortunately that if this 109 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: has happened to it, it's all too frequent. 110 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so sad, And you know what, like 111 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: the thing is what you've actually I think done for 112 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: us today though as well is you know, we talk 113 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: a lot about these different crimes, and we talk a 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: lot about cars being stolen, and sometimes I don't think 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: that people truly comprehend or that our decision makers truly 116 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: comprehend then the impact that what can be seen as 117 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: a really petty crime actually has a huge impact on 118 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: an individual's life and on your livelihood. 119 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's what I've spoken to my 120 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: family about. Like, you know, I've owned my car, I've 121 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: worked hard all my life, and like Sudd, nearly fifty 122 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: eight years of age, I've now got to get a 123 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: second job to be able to, like I want to 124 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: pay for ten years for another loan for a car. 125 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: So you know, it's impacted me greatly. I have to 126 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 2: walk to work, I have to Like yesterday, I walked 127 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: home and got rained on before I got home. So 128 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: it's not a big thing, but it is a big thing. 129 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 2: At the same plan, it's something that I shouldn't have 130 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: to be going through because I didn't do anything wrong. 131 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And you know, in life, I always 132 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: think that there's certain decisions that we make that can 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: have an impact on us that we've then got to 134 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: live with, you know, whether we've made the right decision 135 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: or not. But in this case, you've not done anything wrong. 136 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: You've parked your car the same as you would every day. 137 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: You've gone to bed and you've woken to that situation. 138 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: That is not fair. 139 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's certainly as night. Oh really, I don't know. 140 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: You don't know what to do about it. That's my 141 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: that's my issue. I haven't been in the territory long. 142 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: I've been here eighteen months. I don't have that network 143 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: of people around me that I can call on to say, 144 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: do you know this? Or do you can you help 145 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: me with that? 146 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean, is there anything Look, you know we've obviously 147 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: got a big network of people. Is there anything that 148 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: you know that our listeners could do to help in 149 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: any way? 150 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: I really don't know. I don't know what to do. 151 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: This is my half of the problem. I'm a little 152 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: bit and I'm not really sure. I've got a toe 153 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: for my car, but I just need to be able 154 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: to get it to a crash repair. Because the crash 155 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: repairs the places are just so booked out. I've fined 156 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: one and they said they booked out until October. Oh wow, 157 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: out until August because there's so many stolen cars. So 158 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: you know, it's gee, that's hard. I'll figure it out somehow. 159 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: Well, Look, if we if anyone contacts us, it's able 160 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: to help in any way. There are lots of people 161 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: that are suggesting victims of crime. I mean, if you've 162 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you've reached out to them. 163 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: I have. Unfortunately they can't do a lot. They're very 164 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: generously offered to pay for the towing, which is a 165 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: really generous offer that sort of takes a load off 166 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: my mind. But I'd be grateful for just any advice 167 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: even on what to do and how to proceed forward, 168 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: because I just don't know what to do. It's not 169 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: something within the both of my experience. Now I'm really 170 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: struggling to comprehend what to do next. 171 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: Let us see whether we can help in some way. 172 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: You know, obviously I don't know what we may or 173 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: may not be able to find out, but let us 174 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: see what we can do in some way. I you know, 175 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: I always think, at least, you know, we've put it 176 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: out out there now, and let's see where we go 177 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: from here. 178 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: I'm very grateful, thank you so much for the opportunity 179 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: to tell the story. 180 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem at all. Look, I think that it's 181 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: something that we need to continue to talk about because 182 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: even though sometimes it feels like we're not being listened 183 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: to by our politicians and by our decision makers. It 184 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: is incredibly important that everybody knows what's going on in 185 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. But also you know that we share 186 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: those experiences with each other so that we don't feel 187 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: like we're alone. 188 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: That's right, and we don't feel like we're just another number. 189 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: And that's what it feels like in my position. You 190 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: feel like you're just another kick on a sheet that 191 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: you know, yep, that car has been stolen, and yes, 192 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: this is what we do, and take a number and 193 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: jump at the end of the line. Yeah. 194 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: Deb Thank you so much for having a chat with 195 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: me this morning, and I'm really sorry about that situation 196 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: that you are going through. We'll let you know if 197 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: you know if we can help in any way. 198 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, I really appreciate it. 199 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: No worries at all. Thanks Dev