1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're dose of the hottest 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Torbert and I'm joined by my sisters and journalist Kate 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: and Amy. On today's show, Mikayla Tester's solo Bali Trips, sparks, 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: breakup rumors, Bed Judd accused of being too rich and 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: famous to be a victim of crime, and could Anastasia 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: kings North be entering the Love Island. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Filla But First. 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Sarah's stay has revealed she is financially stable enough that 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: she could retire now. On an episode of the Health 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: Code podcast, she explained that she has days where she 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: just wants to throw it all in and be a 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: stay at home mum. 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 2: This is what she said, like. 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: In the most humble way, Like I could retire if 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: I wanted to. 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you know what's successful. 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: I've done everything I wanted to do. I'm financially stable. 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: I could retire, And I totally have days where I'm 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: like what am I doing? Like just stop and I'm 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: just gonna hang with the boys and be a stay 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: at home mom every day and make cookies and you know, 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: like be present and not be stressed or different kind 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 3: of stress. 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 1: I really don't get it, because why doesn't she just blog? 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Why doesn't she just keep the vlogging side of things 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: and then get rid of these businesses? Because I saw 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: another vlog where she was talking about how stressful it 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: is to have employees, and everyone tells her, we'll just 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: get more staff to do everything, and she said, well, 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm the boss, so 32 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: I still have to manage all of this. I started 33 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: a little bit confused because on her vlog she does 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: try to show the behind the scenes of running her businesses, 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of the time she is doing jobs 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: that she could employ other people for. For example, she's 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: always taking photos for her apps Sonny, and you think 38 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: that that sort of thing does take a lot of 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: time to do, and it's one of those jobs that 40 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: she could perhaps handble on. Can you imagine if she 41 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: did retire at twenty nine and ten years from now, 42 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: she's explaining to the moms at school, ohway, retired because 43 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: I used to be a big YouTube. But the thing 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: is she wouldn't so much be retiring, she would just 45 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: be choosing to be a stay at home mum, and 46 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: there's obviously nothing wrong with that. That's a job within itself. 47 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: I feel like time will tell she is sounding really 48 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: burnt out, and I wouldn't be surprised if she did 49 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: make a big life change. I don't think she's ever 50 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: going to retire from social media because I think she 51 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: has one of those personalities where she really enjoys sharing 52 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: about her life and talking about herself, so I think 53 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: she would actually struggle away from the limelight. I also 54 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: think that she's one of those people who would get 55 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: bored really easily, and she wants to be running a business. 56 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: I think she enjoys all of those things. But I mean, 57 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: of course, you're probably in a different mindset when you've 58 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: just had your second baby. There's a lot on your plate. Obviously, 59 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: her son Malachai is very unwell at the moment. She's 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: probably having all these thoughts that in reality she wouldn't 61 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: actually do. So what would you guys do if you 62 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: were in a similar position where you were really financially stable, 63 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: would you just retire? Would you continue on with your businesses? 64 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: I don't think I could retire it such a young age. 65 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I would get so bored anytime we 66 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: have a couple of days off, I find it really 67 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: hard not to be doing something. I mean, obviously I 68 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: don't have children at the moment, and being a mom 69 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: is a full time job in itself, so perhaps that's 70 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: why I feel the way. 71 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: I do at the moment. 72 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: You know what, I saw this TikTok the other day 73 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: and it was this lady sitting in Paris, and she 74 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: was sipping on a coffee and she had a cross 75 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: on and she said, this is how I meant to 76 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: be living my life every day. You just have to 77 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: create tasks to do each day. I feel like you 78 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: could probably do it for a few years. Oh exactly. 79 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: It's all about creating a busy schedule. You're actually doing 80 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: things that you want to do. I mean that being said, 81 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: some people actually enjoy doing doing the work that they do. 82 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: And I definitely would still want to do our podcast, 83 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: but as for my nine to five job, see ya, 84 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: Like I would just be calling up being like sorry, 85 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm not coming in anymore. 86 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: Guys have got tax. 87 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: Got texts, that's uch uk. YouTuber Anastasia kings North has 88 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: sparked rumors she may be entering the Love Island Villa 89 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: The twenty one year old shared a cheeky snap of 90 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: the exterior of the villa with a shush emoji and 91 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: tagged itv Now Kay, what's your thoughts, feelings, emotions about this? 92 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: Well? 93 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: It cracked me up because when the news first broke, 94 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people were saying Anna wouldn't be able 95 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: to survive without McDonald's inside the villa because she is 96 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: renowned for doing fast food mook bunks. However, a couple 97 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: of series back, a McDonald's cup was spotted in a scene, 98 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: which resulted in a lot of questions, and what actually 99 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: came out was that the Islanders actually get days off 100 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: from filming and can go outside of the villa. So 101 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: some of the contestants had bought a McDonald's cup back 102 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: into the villa and then it ended up being in 103 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: a shot. So it seems like she could be on 104 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: the show because she could go to McDonald's anyway. I 105 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: would absolutely love to see Anna in the villa. In 106 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: the past, she has spoken about how it's a dream 107 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: of hers to go on Love Island and she is 108 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: an avid watcher of the show. Unfortunately, though, I don't 109 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: think this is gonna happen. I think that she would 110 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: be a great addition to Love Island because the ratings 111 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: dropped slightly last year. Remember, she was also on that 112 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: YouTube reality series. It was a bit like Big Brother, 113 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: and maybe that was a bit of an introduction to 114 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Anna being on a bigger reality show. However, she was 115 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: slammed for being quite boring on the show, so the 116 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: ITV producers may have seen that. It is quite clear 117 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: that Anna does want a career in TV. However, I 118 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: think there's no way that Love Island would have allowed 119 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: her to post the update. Firstly, all of the contestants 120 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: go into a lockdown a week or so before the 121 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: show and they have their phones taken away from them. 122 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: And I know on the show we always see the 123 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: contestants receiving text messages, but that's not their real phone. 124 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: That is a phone that the show provides them with, 125 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: and they can't communicate with the outside world on that phone. 126 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: They can only get text messages from the show's producers. 127 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: Also, the first eleven Islanders have been revealed, and I mean, 128 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: she could be a bombshell along the way, but I 129 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: really doubt it. 130 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: I think perhaps the show is purposely getting her to 131 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: post about Love Island to generate interest in the show. Yeah. Well, 132 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: Anna has got a history of working with ITV before, 133 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: so they enlisted her to interview celebrities on the red 134 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: carpet at the Polooser event. Well, when I say interviewed, 135 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: she was told to ask them what their McDonald's orders 136 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: are anyway. So she's also worked with ITV to promote 137 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: the UK's I'm a Celebrity and filmed behind the scenes 138 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: tour of the castle, which she later shared on her 139 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. So I'm guessing that that's what she's doing 140 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: for Love Island because one of the previous Love Island contestants, 141 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: Amy Hart, she did a video on her Instagram of 142 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: a behind the scenes of the villa, which she's already shared, 143 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: so I feel like that's the sort of content that 144 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: will be coming up on Anna's YouTube video. I also 145 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: saw Milli Core and also Fae from last season being 146 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: paid to promote the show on their Instagram feeds because 147 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: there was a huge hashtag add on there, and I 148 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: found that really strange because it's funny how the show 149 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: has built them their platform. They both have about two 150 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: million followers on Instagram and it's kind of like this 151 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: full circle event that now they're promoting the show that 152 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: they're on. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Saffron 153 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: Barker rocked up on Love Island because she has been 154 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: in so many of the big UK reality shows. I 155 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: think a lot of them wouldn't want to take that 156 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: much time though away from their social media presence. They 157 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: would have to be really organized and pre record a 158 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: lot of videos that could be dropped. That being said, 159 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Love Island has created so many careers for young influencers, 160 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: so I mean, I'm sure it still would be lucrative 161 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: for them despite the fact that they have a platform themselves. Yeah, 162 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: it definitely would be. I mean, Molly May's the biggest 163 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: influencer in the UK. If someone like Saffron Barker went 164 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: on Love Island, she'd probably triple her followers. I think 165 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: she'd more than triple it. Look at Molly May. She 166 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: had around five hundred thousand followers before she went into 167 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: the villa and she's now sitting on six point three 168 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: million followers now. In terms of contestants that have been revealed, 169 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see Tasha Gory on the show, 170 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: and she is a twenty three year old model and 171 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: dancer who is the show's first deaf contestant. So Tasha 172 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: was born deaf and also has a cochlear implant, and 173 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: an ITV source told The Sun everyone is excited. It's 174 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: something really positive for youngsters to see. Natasha looks amazing 175 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: at a bikini and has a bubbly personality. Now I'm 176 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: not sure why that last sentence had to be included. 177 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: It's very cringe. It's like the most Love Island line 178 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: I've ever heard. Yes, it is very Love Island. It's 179 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: like they're trying to make strides and be very diverse 180 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: and inclusive, and then they say, oh, she looks great 181 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: in a bikini. It's like, oh, okay. 182 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 4: Well. 183 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Last year, Hugo Hammond was the first contestant ever to 184 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: be on the show with a disability, and I feel 185 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: like it opened up a lot of important conversations around 186 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: disability and also what it was like for him growing up. 187 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: In light of the fact that they chose Hugo last time, 188 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: I do wonder if Tasha actually applied for the show 189 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: or if she was headhunted because she was in an 190 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: Asos campaign recently where she shone a light on her disability. 191 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: So either way, I think it's fantastic that she has 192 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: been included in the show and I am so excited. 193 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: Bring on, I think it's Wednesday that it's airing in Australia. 194 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: I should just like go craver likes again, like I 195 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: should just like go get another babl Like I should 196 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 4: go get a real job like everybody else. My boyfriend's 197 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: an arrogant, unhumble little fuck. Then we'll get punched on 198 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 4: the street if he ever walks outside. I should just 199 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: like delete my account Ozzie. 200 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: TikToker Mikayla Tester has ignited rumors that she split from 201 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: her boyfriend Addis Paul after uploading a video in a 202 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: Bali Macka's of all places. The only fans creator, who 203 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: is best known for crying after Instagram announced it was 204 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: removing likes in twenty nineteen, appeared alone in the TikTok 205 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: video where she tried unusual menu items. Now, Sophie, can 206 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: you tell us a bit more? 207 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: Well? 208 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: To most, this video looked fairly innocent. However, invested Paul 209 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: family fans like myself picked up on the fact that 210 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: Michayla was no longer traveling with the family and was 211 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: in Bali on her own now. Previously, Michayla was on 212 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: a massive family hollow with Addis's sister Anna and her 213 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: partner Glenn. They traveled all across America together and then Bally. 214 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: Following this large trip, Addis is back home in Australia 215 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: with his family gearing up for their second European trip 216 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: of the year, and Michayla is of course now in Bali. 217 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Now all of the cool kids like myself will know 218 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: that Addis and Michayla are inseparable. Michayla has previously said 219 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: on TikTok that they are a couple who likes to 220 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: be together twenty four to seven, so the fact that 221 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: they were visibly apart on TikTok has created a lot 222 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: of rumors. Oh, and those rumors were circulating in the 223 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: comments section of Mikayla's Instagram post. Mikayla was quick to 224 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: set the rumors straight, though, replying to comments that she 225 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: is just doing a separate trip with her friends. Another 226 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: follower wrote did you guys break up, to which she 227 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: responded no. The rumor mill went even further into overdrive 228 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: when another follow a question whether Michayla was wearing an 229 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: engagement ring. The twenty two year old was sporting a 230 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: large diamond ring on her right hand. Michayla wrote, it's 231 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: a promise ring Attus gave me three years ago when 232 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: he asked me to be his girlfriend. It's so funny 233 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: how the comments can turn from are they breaking up? 234 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: To are they engaged? I know, it's pretty crazy, isn't it. 235 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: I am so fascinated by this family, though. 236 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: I wonder what the. 237 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: Dynamic is like between all members, because it is quite 238 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: rare to have three members of the same family who 239 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: all have large platforms. 240 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: And also vlog their daily lives. 241 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: What it would it be like to be Glenn without 242 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: the platform? 243 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: He probably loves it. He's just in the background of everything. 244 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 2: But for Anna Paul and. 245 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: Michayla Tester, it would be really hard not to compare 246 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: themselves to one another, because as well as having large 247 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: TikTok platforms, they're also among the country's top creators on 248 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: Only Fans, and Mikayla opened up about being constantly compared 249 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: to Anna, who is pretty much her sister in law. 250 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: Mikayla said her comment section is often flooded by new 251 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: fans of Anna who don't realize the family connection and 252 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: accuse Mikayla of trying to copy Anna's life. 253 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: Here's what she said. 254 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 4: Okay, there is two really new people that follow Anna 255 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: Paul on this app that have no idea, so they 256 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: just comment on all of my shits saying, you're copying Anna. 257 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 4: Are you went out and bought the same cats just 258 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: to copy? And I you sound like Anna. You look 259 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 4: like Anna. Anna is literally in the room next to me. Okay, 260 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 4: we are sisters. I am dating her brother, So no, 261 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: she doesn't have two boyfriends. She's not dating her own brother. 262 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: And Glenn. I'm not dating Glenn. Glenn is her boyfriend. 263 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: Attis is my boyfriend. Attis is Anna Paul's what the 264 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: fuck is Anna's brother? Hence why attis Paul? Anna Paul? Yeah, 265 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: same last name, we all log, we all live in 266 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: the same house, we all have. Those are literally the 267 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: same cats. Okay, they're exact same cats. I didn't copy 268 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: her cat names, They're literally just the names. They're the 269 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: same cats. 270 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: Mikayla then went on to explain the toll that these 271 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: sort of comments take on her, saying that the backlash 272 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: often stops her from wanting to put content out on TikTok, 273 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: and also it has huge effects on her mental health. 274 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: She continued by saying that some followers have created this 275 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: strange rivalry between them and somehow think that they are 276 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: helping Anna out by bagging Mikayla out in the comment section. 277 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: Here's what she said. 278 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 4: Girls love to comment on my page, You'll never be Anna. 279 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 4: You'll never be as pretty as Anna. Stop trying to copy. 280 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: And Anna hates that she sees that she doesn't love 281 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: you more. She thinks you're disgusting. So if you bully me, 282 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 4: you're not like doing anything for her, Like you're just 283 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: making it worse for yourself. And if people can stop 284 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: coming on to my page and my Instagram messaging me 285 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 4: like abuse of messages, trying to like be on Anna's side, 286 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 4: there's no fucking sides. You're weird. 287 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: I find it so bizarre that these fans would try 288 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: and create this rivalry. It just doesn't make sense because 289 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: they clearly get along. They're going on holidays as a 290 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: family all the time. Obviously, if the pair were to 291 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: actually break up, maybe there could be a rivalry there, 292 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: but at this stage, Mikayla seems very entrenched in the 293 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: Paul's family's life, and Anna and her look really close, 294 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: so this would be rather awkward. It kind of reminds 295 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: me of those strange fan fictions that fans often create, 296 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, all those one direction ones. When they were 297 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: saying that Louie and Harry were in love with each other. 298 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: It's kind of like they've created this strange dynamic between 299 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: the two. Well, I do feel for Michayla because it 300 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: is safe to say that Anna is the eat girl 301 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: of TikTok at the moment. She's so incredibly likable, and 302 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, she constantly receives these handwritten notes on her car. 303 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: She also has kids creating shrines at school about her, 304 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: she gets constant fan mail. And then there's Michaela, who 305 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, has a huge following, but I feel like 306 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: she doesn't quite have that super likable, relatable personality, and 307 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: she often does struggle with the criticism, and she doesn't 308 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: really seem as comfortable in her own skin as Anna is. 309 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: Because Anna does. 310 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: Talk a lot about body positivity and she's also obviously 311 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: very sex positive. And yeah, it's just clear that Mikayla 312 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: takes a lot of the hate on board a lot more. Yeah, 313 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: the thing is, I feel like Anna Paul when I 314 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: didn't know too much about her, I assume that she 315 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: would have a massive male following being on OnlyFans, But 316 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: the surprising thing is that the majority of her followers 317 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: are actually female, whereas I think Michayla may have more 318 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: of the male following and less of the female following. 319 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: So that's where I see the difference in those two. Well, 320 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: even when you compare their follower account, Mikayla has one 321 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: point nine million followers on TikTok, which is huge, but 322 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: Anna Paul has four point two million followers, so she 323 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: has double the amount of followers as Mikayla. You have 324 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: your own McDonald no way. Ben Judters accused the Victorian 325 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: government of not doing enough to combat crime in a 326 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: suburb of Brighton. The influencer took to Instagram to call 327 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: for more government support after she revealed she knew of 328 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,359 Speaker 1: two women who had experienced home invasions in the Bayside area. 329 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: Now Amy, This post turned out to be very controversial, 330 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: with Premier Dan Andrews even weighing in, Yeah, it definitely has. 331 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: And while many Brighton residents have come to beck support, 332 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: others have poked fun at her for complaining about crime 333 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: rates in her area, and this is because Beck's suburb 334 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: of Brighton is an affluent area. So people have also 335 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: claimed online that Beck shouldn't be complaining because she lives 336 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: in a seven million dollar mansion. Her comments have also 337 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: been mocked by the media, so the Herald Sun printed 338 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: an article which read thoughts and prayers for Beck. 339 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: Judd and Brighton. 340 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Michelle Laurie also called back out, saying doesn't she understand 341 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: that more police in her suburbs means higher tax rates? 342 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense to me because Beck is in 343 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: a position where I am assuming higher tax rates wouldn't 344 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: really matter to her. And I don't get this whole 345 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: joking around because of course thieves are going to target 346 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: affluent areas exactly exactly now, to make more sense of 347 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: all of the controversy, let's get into Beck's post. So 348 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: Beck took to her Instagram last week after seeing a 349 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: story on seven News regarding a recent crime in her area. 350 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: Beck shared the story on her Instagram and wrote, so 351 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: sick of rapes, bashings and home invasions at the hands 352 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: of gangs in the bayside. The state government don't seem 353 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: to care. We feel unsafe. I personally know two women 354 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: who have experienced home invasions in in the last few 355 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: weeks while they were at home. Now, this post hit 356 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: the mainstream media when Premier Dan Andrews was asked away 357 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: in he told the media he was not interested in 358 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: having an argument with Beck and claimed recent crime statistics 359 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: would not support Beck's sweeping statements. This led liberal MP 360 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: James Newberry to spring to Beck's defense. He labeled Dan Andrews' 361 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: comments as a form of victim blaming. He told the 362 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: media there has been three home invasions in Brighton that 363 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: week and a police shooting, and that many women in 364 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: particular are living in fear, with some families choosing to 365 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: hire private security. He even said some residents were leaving 366 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: keys next to the front door so that if they 367 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: are home invaded, they're not fought. Wow, that's pretty amazing, 368 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: people essentially inviting people into their homes exactly. I mean, 369 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: it shows what a huge issue it is at the moment. 370 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: Now. 371 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: The Statstan Andrews was referring to relate to criminal incidents 372 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: recorded in Brighton for the previous year, and these stats 373 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: do show that there was a drop in criminal activity 374 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: in the area. However, following Beck's statement, it was revealed 375 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: just last week that Victorian Police had launched Operation Ibis 376 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: with five hundred officers targeting youth crime in the Bayside area. 377 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: So this operation has already led to the arrest of 378 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: fourteen alleged offenders. So this is pretty startling because in 379 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: the past eighteen months, a sixteen year old girl was raped, 380 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: a teenage boy was stabbed, and two ten year olds 381 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: were attacked by a gang. And this operation that has 382 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: been launched appears to validate Beck's original post. It just 383 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: seems like she's not being taken seriously purely because she 384 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: is a social media influencer. Now, news about this operation 385 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: led to Beck speaking out about the controversy. On Wednesday. 386 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: Beck told The Australian, I'm glad my voice has shone 387 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: a light on the escalating aggravated burglaries in Bayside. I 388 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: welcome Operation IBIS and the extra five hundred police promise 389 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: to the people of Victoria. Now, do you guys think 390 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: it's fair that Beck copped so much much backlash over 391 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: her original comments. I was actually really shocked by the 392 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: media's coverage around this story. It was like everyone was 393 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: poking fun at Beck and saying that she was too 394 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: rich to be a victim of crime, which I thought 395 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: was ridiculous because recently Chloe Zepp and Mitchell Orville have 396 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: been robbed and had their home invaded, and it's becoming 397 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: clearer that a lot of rich, famous people are being 398 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: targeted online. So if I was Beck and saw all 399 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: this crime in my area, I would be thinking I'm next. 400 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: My house is known. I really think there's more to 401 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: this story. For those who don't know Beck. Judd has 402 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: been super critical of Dan Andrews in the past. When 403 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: Melbourne was obviously thrown into all of those lockdowns, she 404 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: did wear a T shirt that said dictated Dan, and 405 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: she was critical of him as a premier during that time. 406 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any love lost between the pairs, 407 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: so perhaps this is why Dan Andrews reacted in the 408 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: way he did. He just assumed that it was troubly 409 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: a load of bullshit. Dan Andrews' comments were very dismissive 410 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: of Beck because it's clear that there is a problem 411 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: in this area, and it is disappointing because we often 412 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: say that why don't influencers speak out more about important 413 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: issues and use their platform for good. And in this case, 414 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: Beck has used her platform for good and she's been 415 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: slammed by people online for doing so. I think it's 416 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: also a case, though, of people not wanting to hear 417 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: rich people complain about stuff. I think it comes down 418 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: to jealousy. And I suppose people in lower socioeconomic situations 419 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: are like, oh, well, what is she complaining about. She 420 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: has money to have security, etc. And I suppose that 421 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: is a valid point in a sense. However, it's not 422 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: like she's saying, oh, this area is the only area 423 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: of concern, but she's voicing her opinion because she lives 424 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: in that area. 425 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 426 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: When I used to work in news, quite often we 427 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: would do stories about burglaries in really affluent areas. And 428 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: I even remember when we used to work for Burnside 429 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: Village there was this huge story that was breaking whilst. 430 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: We were at an event. 431 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: There and basic there was this huge bling ring that 432 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: had been uncovered at the shopping center. So someone was 433 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: stealing all this shit. And you know, as you say, 434 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: it is quite a naive perspected to think, oh, crime 435 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: doesn't happen in nice areas, as you say, kay, that's 436 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: where a lot of rich people are. 437 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: So a lot of people want their stuff. 438 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: I remember when I was at seven, I did this 439 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: story about mums that were stealing from shopping centers. So basically, 440 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: these were rich mothers and they got so bored being 441 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: at home that they just started shoplifting, and they had 442 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: all of this CCTV of women doing it. Well, the 443 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: thing that stands out to me is that beck is 444 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: actually worried about a home invasion or being raped. I mean, 445 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: those are serious things to actually be concerned about. She 446 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: has four children, and it's like, well, she's not concerned 447 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: so much about having her nice things taken. It's that 448 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: she's scared for her actual safety. And I think that's 449 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: what we've got to remember. I'd love to hear what 450 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: everyone else thinks about this. We're going to put a 451 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: thread in our Facebook community to discuss it. But I 452 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: think that's all we have time for today. 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