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Speaker 1: Now joining us live in the studio is Assistant Commissioner

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Speaker 1: Peter Maley. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Cody.

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Speaker 1: Now, Peter, we know that well, the latest stats on

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Speaker 1: Monday with at about two hundred and fifty five people

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Speaker 1: have purchased OC spray on that first day that it

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Speaker 1: became available. Have you got some more up to date

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Speaker 1: figures following the last couple of days?

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Speaker 3: I do, Codie. So right now we have four hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty nine individual purchases and that relates to seven

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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five canisters.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so about seven hundred and twenty five canisters, four

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine purchasers. Now, when it comes to

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Speaker 1: people that were then found to be prohibited from buying

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Speaker 1: that spray, it was four earlier in the week.

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Speaker 3: What's it at now it's doubled is now eight, and

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Speaker 3: we've dealt with six of them.

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Speaker 2: So the term of following up the other two this morning.

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Speaker 1: So when you say dealt with six of them, does

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Speaker 1: that mean that you've been like, have you been around

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Speaker 1: to their house? She gone and said, hey, we need

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Speaker 1: that canister back because you're not actually eligible to have it.

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Speaker 3: Exactly right, CODYE and then the members will then look

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Speaker 3: at the circumstances of the purchase. And two of those

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Speaker 3: people thus far have received notices to appear in relation

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Speaker 3: to possessing a prohibited weapon, and there's been a couple

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Speaker 3: of cautions, and I think the other two are still

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Speaker 3: under review as to but you can still receive a

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Speaker 3: notice to appear in court in relation to I mean,

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Speaker 3: possessing a prohibited weapon, quite a serious charge.

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Speaker 1: So six of them have now handed that back in.

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Speaker 1: What about the other two?

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Speaker 2: So the other two have been chased up this morning

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Speaker 2: by the team.

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Speaker 1: Right, and generally with those six people, have they been

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Speaker 1: fairly compliant in terms of then handing it back in?

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Speaker 2: They've been pretty good.

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Speaker 3: They know they shouldn't possess it in the first place

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Speaker 3: due to their criminal history, so they haven't been honest

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Speaker 3: on the declaration. Unfortunately, we're not doing it real time,

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Speaker 3: but we're not far behind. And as soon as we

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Speaker 3: get that red flag, you know this person there's prior

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Speaker 3: convictions that are relevant to purchasing the OC spray and

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Speaker 3: possessing the prohibited weapon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we go straight out and grab them.

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Speaker 1: Are you able to tell us why they weren't eligible.

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Speaker 2: It's got to do with their prior criminal history, right,

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Speaker 2: So if.

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Speaker 1: You've got a prior criminal history, obviously there's different reasons,

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Speaker 1: and I know that most of those are on the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police website in terms of whether you're eligible

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Speaker 1: or not. But so they're not eligible, they've still gone

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Speaker 1: in and tried to purchase it and it's pinged pretty well,

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Speaker 1: not immediately, but not too long after you reckon, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Not too long after, Codie.

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Speaker 3: So I would say the system's working, it's really good,

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Speaker 3: and you can see, you know, eight people compared to

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Speaker 3: four hundred and twenty nine, we're talking about a small

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Speaker 3: minority here in the community that aren't eligible to possess it,

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Speaker 3: and those type of people shouldn't have.

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Speaker 2: It in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Do you worry though that it is a situation where

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Speaker 1: we've always been a bit concerned that the wrong people

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Speaker 1: could get it in their hands. I mean, does it

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Speaker 1: sort of demonstrate that they potentially can? I know, the

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Speaker 1: police are then gone and you know, fronted up to

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Speaker 1: their house to get it back, but you can do

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Speaker 1: a bit of damage, I guess in twenty four hours

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, and it is one of the concerns,

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Speaker 3: but I still say the system's working. You know, there

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Speaker 3: haven't been any further offenses related to the possession of

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Speaker 3: the capsic can spray.

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Speaker 2: At this stage.

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Speaker 1: So do they then get charged.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So two have noticed to peers, and that's in

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Speaker 3: relation to possessing the prohibited weapon because they're not exempt.

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Speaker 3: There's been two cautions and the other two I think

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Speaker 3: are under review, so there potentially could be another two

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Speaker 3: notice is still peer coming for those people.

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Speaker 1: So in terms of it, like so by the sounds

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Speaker 1: of it, it's not being monitored in real time, but

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Speaker 1: it's been monitored quite soon after. Would that be right?

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Speaker 1: That's right, Katie you And so how do you do that?

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Speaker 1: That's like a manual thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: So we look at the identity provide, did we make

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Speaker 3: our won checks, We have a look at the declaration

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Speaker 3: and then from there, you know, the red flags come

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Speaker 3: up straight away and we see their prior convictions and

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Speaker 1: In terms of like a lot of people have been

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Speaker 1: asking questions around the strength of the OC spray, My

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Speaker 1: understanding was that the strength was not sort of as

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Speaker 1: strong as what the Northern territory police hues when you're

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Speaker 1: to make an arrest, where you may have to do

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Speaker 1: something where that OC spray is required. Is that the case?

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Speaker 1: I mean, do the strengths vary.

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Speaker 3: What I'll say in relation to the strength of it.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to OC spray, size does matter, and

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Speaker 3: we have quite large canisters and so we can deploy

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Speaker 3: you know, O spray into a crowd, demonstrators, that type

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Speaker 3: of stuff, not just for a personal use type.

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Speaker 1: So it's significantly there's significantly more in what you're using. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: in terms of when OC spray is deployed. Is it

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Speaker 1: something that sort of goes out in a straight line?

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Speaker 1: Is it something that if somebody is deploying it, does

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Speaker 1: it sort of Is there a risk that it could

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Speaker 1: blow out? And you reach a number of people when

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Speaker 2: Size, absolutely, Catie.

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Speaker 3: So they have a spray, then they have the one

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Speaker 3: that does go in a straight line that you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Then there's a foam as well. These are the straight

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Speaker 3: line spray. So in terms of if you're using it

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Speaker 3: outside and there's wind, yeah, other people may get a

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Speaker 3: secondary dose. I've been around the use of it a

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Speaker 3: number of times. I've been sprayed a number of times,

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Speaker 3: and when it has been used in the field and

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Speaker 3: I've been present, I've always.

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Speaker 2: Got a dose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so you've definitely got to be careful no

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Speaker 1: matter what. Absolutely, Hey, just talking about another issue that

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Speaker 1: we've had quite a large number of people get in

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Speaker 1: contact with us about over recent days, but certainly truck

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Speaker 1: drivers get in contact with us. They've had one, in particular,

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Speaker 1: a pretty dangerous situation where one of his drivers had

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Speaker 1: rocks thrown at his vehicle near the Catherine Bridge earlier

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Speaker 1: this week, shattering that windscreen, sending glass all through the cabin.

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Speaker 1: Have you, like, have the Northern Territory Police had reports

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Speaker 1: when it comes to these rocks being thrown first off

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have, Katie.

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Speaker 3: So over the last two weeks we've had eleven reports

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Speaker 3: the kids they don't appreciate the dangers that they're causing

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Speaker 3: by throwing the rocks. But there's workouting on there placed

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Speaker 3: with DCF into their circuit breaker team and the Kolano

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Speaker 3: Youth Patrol just to engage and educate the kids in

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Speaker 3: relation to this is really serious behavior and the consequences

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Speaker 3: can be fatal.

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Speaker 1: Some criticism of the police, you know that they were

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Speaker 1: to attend in a couple of those situations in Catherine,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I guess those on the receiving end

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Speaker 1: of those rocks a little bit worried that. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a danger to other people as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And look it's one of those things if

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Speaker 3: the police are stuck at a violent domestic or something

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Speaker 3: more serious. Yeah, unfortunately, we're just not going to get

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Speaker 1: But I mean, is it a situation where, like you said,

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Speaker 1: there just in the last couple of days, there's been

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Speaker 1: four incidents in Catherine, eleven reports over the last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: but four of those reports in Catherine just in the

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Speaker 3: All these ones in the last two weeks KDI are

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Speaker 3: in Catherine, but you know, in the Northern Territory for

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Speaker 3: the place, We're not strangers to rock throwing. I know

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Speaker 3: from Ellie Springs they particularly have targeted buses and taxis

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Speaker 3: in the past. So yeah, just just really concerning behavior.

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Speaker 3: I just think some of the kids, some of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And it's so bloody dangerous. I mean, particularly

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Speaker 1: for somebody driving a big truck and you've got if

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Speaker 1: it is a kid throwing rocks at them, big rocks,

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Speaker 1: and then the potential harm that can be caused as

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Speaker 1: a result of that. They need to understand that you

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Speaker 1: could literally take someone's life.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, do a big truck crosses to the wrong side

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Speaker 3: just don't think they fully appreciate them.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either. Hey, overnight, I understand

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Speaker 1: that there was a break in down at the Darwin Waterfront.

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Speaker 3: Correct Katie's had to be at four to twenty this morning.

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Speaker 3: There was four young males gained entry to a restaurant

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Speaker 3: down there, stole a hoop of alcohol and were seen

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Speaker 3: leaving in a stolen gray Suzuki Swift by Waterfront Security.

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Speaker 3: So we haven't caught up with them yet, but we have,

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Speaker 3: you know, good CCTV. We know the vehicle, so it's

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Speaker 1: So did you say four young males four, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so broke into one of the presumably one of the restaurants.

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Speaker 1: First stole quite a bit of alcohol, that's right, Katie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then a car, well they already had the car,

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Speaker 3: The stolen car and loaded the alcohol into the stolen

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Speaker 1: So we know where that car was stolen from.

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Speaker 2: Who was stolen from?

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Speaker 1: Farrer Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, goodness mate. Again, such a

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Speaker 1: bloody dangerous situation. You know, I don't know the ages

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Speaker 1: of these people, but driving around in a stolen car

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Speaker 1: then you know, rocking up to another location and stealing further,

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Speaker 1: no doubt guessing trident's probably onto them pretty fast this.

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Speaker 2: Morning, right, Cadie, tried, it's all over it.

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Speaker 1: I reckon they would be hey. Just in relation to

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Speaker 1: another couple of unfortunate incidents over recent days, one really

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Speaker 1: tragic one. On Monday, a forty year old woman died

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Speaker 1: following a suspected snake bite in Catherine on Monday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: just after or around one o'clock in the ar in

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Speaker 1: police receiving reports that that woman had collapsed at a

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Speaker 1: business on Piers Straight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah tragic, Katie, really sad. And the forty year old

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Speaker 3: lady had been bitten by a snake earlier on. And

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Speaker 3: now we know, being Australians, we walk around looking down

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Speaker 3: for snakes because we know if we get tagged by

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Speaker 3: one it could kill us. But some people are here

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Speaker 3: from other countries, whether the tourists or whatever, and they

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Speaker 3: don't appreciate. You know, maybe the place they come from,

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Speaker 3: the snakes aren't poisonous, so they don't have any. And

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Speaker 3: I think on this occasion the lady sadly didn't appreciate

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Speaker 3: what had just occurred and didn't seek medical health.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, do we not. Was she a tourist? Do

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Speaker 1: you know?

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Speaker 3: I think she's a worker from another country, hero on

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Speaker 3: a visa.

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Speaker 1: How terrible, how terribly tragic. Unfortunately not the only thing

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Speaker 1: that police have had to deal with though in recent days.

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Speaker 1: I know there was actually an assault on police out

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Speaker 1: at Nunamar over the week on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: In fact, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Katie was out at the radio and security evicted a

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Speaker 3: seventeen year old girl from the premises and put her

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Speaker 3: into the custody of the police. And then another three

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Speaker 3: people sixteen, seven and eighteen year old then tried to

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Speaker 3: get her out of our custody and in doing.

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Speaker 2: So assaulted the police.

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Speaker 3: So we took the We took them all into custody

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Speaker 3: and the sixteen and seven year old will receive a

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Speaker 3: summons for.

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Speaker 2: The eighteen year old was charged with aggravated assault.

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Speaker 1: Goodness, may I mean you really you wonder what goes

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Speaker 1: through people's heads in those situations, particularly then to wind

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Speaker 1: up in a you know, where they're assaulting police like,

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Speaker 1: it's a whole other level.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you know they they're under a doing, well

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Speaker 3: one of them was a doing but you know obviously

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Speaker 3: alcohol affected and you know, not making sound choices and

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Speaker 3: find themselves now before the courts.

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Speaker 1: Hey, before I let you go. Alice Springs as well,

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Speaker 1: I understand there was another incident in Alice Springs. What

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Speaker 1: happened with this one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So on Monday, Cotie, Monday afternoon, we received reports

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Speaker 3: and we saw two utilities driving radically around. They then

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Speaker 3: went to another residence where they broke in and threatened

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Speaker 3: they stole that person's mobile telephone. Later on, we did

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Speaker 3: stop one of the vehicles with the stopsticks. However they

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Speaker 3: drove at the place, vehicle collided head on with it

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Speaker 3: at a slow speed but caused damage.

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Speaker 2: And then while this was going.

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Speaker 3: On, the other stolen ute then came over and also

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Speaker 3: crashed into a police car as well. Sood really really

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Speaker 3: serious behavior. No injuries or anything, but only due to

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Speaker 3: the low speeds. But you know, the behavior is just crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's appalling, actually, like that's appalling behavior. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: hard to even wrap your head around that happening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, Katie, we keep seeing it too often, you know,

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Speaker 3: targeting the police and stolen vehicles crashing into our vehicles

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Speaker 3: and not only just putting themselves the risk of the

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Speaker 2: We're just not going to put up with it.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: Well, Assistant Commissioner Peter Maley always appreciate your time. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much for joining us in the studio. This morning.

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Speaker 1: No thanks, Katie, thank you,