WEBVTT - Kate Box & Madeleine Sami - DEADLOCH - Actors 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:03.960 TV Reload, the podcast Past Detailine. 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:06.400 Welcome back guys to TV Reload. As you may know, 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.119 my name is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.600 to get all the inside goss on the popular TV 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.960 shows you may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:17.759 our TV sets are a major part of our home entertainment, 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.560 and yet very little is known about how our favorite 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.720 shows get made. So each episode I've been finding guests 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:25.720 that want to dive just that little bit deeper into 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:27.960 the shows they're currently making, so that you can hear 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.800 all their exclusive stories and gain access to the biggest 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.519 names in Australian television. I want to thank you for 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.760 downloading or subscribing to this podcast however you've found it. 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.199 I love hearing your feedback, so make sure you leave 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.200 a review or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.160 On today's chat, I'm joined by the delightfully talented Kate 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.000 Box and Madeline Sami, who both feature in the leading 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.600 role of Deadlock, which has just started on Prime Video 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.160 of Australia. Kate Box is an Australian stage, film and 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.840 television actress. I particularly know her role as Lou Kelly 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.040 and Wentworth. Credits are endless and I feel like her 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.399 career is just heating up. Madeleine Sami is a New 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.559 Zealand actress, director, comedian and musician. She started her acting 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.840 career in theater before moving into television, where she created, 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:17.040 wrote and starred in Super City. They both are fantastic 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.040 in Deadlock, the latest comedy series from the Cats, who 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.679 you would probably know as the creators of the catering 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.759 show said in Tasmania. Deadlock is preparing for its winter 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:30.720 festival when a local man turns up dead. Two detectives, 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.679 very different in style, played by Kate and Madeleine are 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.640 forced to work together, and I can tell you that 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.760 this story is an absolute riot. I will ask the 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:40.800 girls if it was hard to get the comedy right, 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.240 and if Madeleine's performance could be distracting for Kate Box 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.400 at times. We will unpack LGBTI content and if we've 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.800 come a long way when it comes to queer storytelling. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.560 We will also talk about the amazing supporting roles and 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:58.000 if having a fun set makes a good series. Plus, 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.280 we will get plenty of exclusives from behind Find the 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.880 scenes of Deadlock which I can tell you keeps getting 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.840 better with each episode, so check it out on Prime 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.639 Video Australia. Anyway, let's get both Kate and Madeline into 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.120 the podcast, and guys, I really hope you enjoy this episode. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:15.800 Hi girls, how are you both good? 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.200 Good? Thank you? How are you well? 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.480 I'm very well, thank you and so excited to have 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.720 you both here today. You know, I'd heard a lot 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.360 about this project since it started, as I have a 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.840 friend who auditioned and does have a small role in 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.440 the series. But I've been lucky enough to see it 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.320 all and I want to say to you both it 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:33.919 keeps getting better as it goes along. 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.880 Ah, thank you, thank you the whole thing. 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.560 Yes, I've seen it all and I might as well 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.320 be wearing a T shirt because I'm a big fan. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:45.919 But Madeline, the series balances quirky humor with a murder mystery. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.520 How did this project come about for you? And how 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.040 does it feel trying to blend those two elements together. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:52.160 Well, I was. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:56.040 Actually involved in the writing process, so I worked on 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:00.200 episode five of Deadlock, so I lived with the story 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.000 for a long time and the kind of different places 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.400 the Cakes were taking it and trying it, and then 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.880 when I got asked to audition, I thought it was 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:09.600 I thought the Cakes were doing a joke on me. 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.520 I thought they were doing a brank and yeah, it 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:12.919 was kinite. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.520 It was kind of weird because I had sort of 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.720 had when you're writing, you sort of have an idea 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.400 of the character in your head, and it definitely didn't 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.760 look like me, and. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.720 So you look like this. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.000 But I was aware, of course along the way, that 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.160 the idea was to subvert a lot of these. 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:37.640 Kind of crime genre tropes to ccenter women and then 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:42.000 also to kind of blend comedy and the crime. And 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.240 I always, as a writer thought, how are we going 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:45.920 to do this, How we're going to balance this, How 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.720 is this going to feel, you know right like tonally? 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:49.920 How where is this going to sit? 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.080 And so it's been really fun to kind of see 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.080 the finished product now and be like, ah, you know, 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.280 it does have a really balanced it's balanced all those 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.280 elements really well, you know you laugh, But you're also 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:00.440 still compel to. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.360 Kind of solve the crime with us as well. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.000 So I think the Kates have done a really clever 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.120 job of blending those two genres. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.160 Yeah, they've really navigated that well. Because it feels and 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.200 looks like Mayor of East Town, but it has the 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.640 laughs of Kate and Kate's usual work. Are you excited 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.600 for audiences globally to explore this world that you've been 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:20.400 able to create. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.400 Yeah. Absolutely, it feels like it's got a real universal 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.240 language to it. But also I think because it is 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:30.520 so specifically Australian as well, it's kind of very grounded 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.560 in our home and I think that's going. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.920 To be exciting for international audiences to watch as well. 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.600 It's I think something that I've always felt like as 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.080 a writer and a performer. Well, I always feel like 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.479 if something is specific enough, and you always see this 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.720 with like an Irish drama or you know, like when 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.960 it's so specific and when it nails all the nuance 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.320 of that of that culture, I feel like it makes 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:51.680 it more universal, do you know what I mean? 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.840 Because people, it's like you just recognize it. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.240 It's so well realized that you recognize it and you 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.880 see your family and those people or your friends or whatever, 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.839 even though they're Irish or Swedish and speaking different language 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:02.720 that they kind of know. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.640 I think that's what the Caps have achieved. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.680 I reckon, you know, I want to talk about Taz 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:08.520 in a little bit. But you know, I grew up 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.640 watching murder mysteries and that probably helps me understand my 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.760 love of true crime. But which murder mystery shows did 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:15.400 you grow up watching? 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.240 Kin, Yeah, I grew up with a lot of Angela lant. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.520 Me too. I was obsessed with me, she wrote same. 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.560 I was a real kind of like like Nancy Drew 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.599 detective novels kind of thing that was more my world. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:31.599 I was. I was into that. 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:33.760 I think we were only really allowed to watch in 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.000 half an hour of TV a day, and I think 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.719 I spent that on either Inspector Gadget or a country practice. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.360 So I didn't necessarily watch heaps of murder mysteries, but 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.720 I did. I used to read them a lot. And 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.720 remember when those Choose your Own Adventure books first came in, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.880 I actually thought they were magical. I'm like, how is 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.880 this all held in this one book? And I can 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.680 go this way? Yeah, So I was quite obsessed with 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:55.640 that kind of. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.479 Like you're really putting, you're really wearing your nerd on 0:05:58.560 --> 0:05:59.040 your sleep. 0:05:59.360 --> 0:05:59.920 I was the same. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.480 I loved I loved them a lot of it. I 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.039 mean I watched a lot of comedy growing up. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.880 I loved a lot of sketch comedy and things like that, 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.320 and but like yeah Murder she wrote with big Also 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.120 Magnum p I. I have a really early memory of 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.320 where my sister, seven years younger than me, being born 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.360 and my grandma looking after us and being up and 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.120 because mum and dad were in the hospital, I got 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:18.920 to stay up and watch Magnum p I, like at 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:20.960 nine o'clock. And it was like one of my early 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.400 memories of being like, this is what it's like being 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:23.920 a grown up? 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:24.200 Is it? 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.560 I like what I see? Like what I see. I'm past, 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.080 I'm up past night, I'm watching Magnum Pi. There's some 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.320 saucy probably there's probably someone in a bikini. At some 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.120 point I was like, there's some BOMs life. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.240 I'm never going to hear that Magnum p I theme 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.640 song the same way again. I mean, I'm only going 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.320 to think about your sister being born. 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.720 Me being seven. Be you allowed to stay up late? 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.800 O Kate, you're playing it's straight, well not exactly straight, 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.600 but up against a lot of Madeline's comedy. Was that 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.200 hard not to break character? 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:52.880 Yeah? 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:57.880 Look, I mean Darls, he's got a fairly massive internal 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.200 life going on that she has to stray in pretty tight. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.880 I we corpsed a lot, you know, particularly early on. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.239 There were some takes where we were just like, this 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.840 is so stupid, man, I don't know how to keep 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.559 this together. There was absolutely those yours and then pulling 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:17.960 yourself back in from that. 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:19.840 I mean, for me, the thing I've. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.400 Always got in trouble with my whole life is not 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.240 being able to stop laughing. Like that's what would get 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.120 kicked me, you know, would kick me out of class 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.440 my whole life, through primary school, high school, you know, 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.920 into universities like and so I did have to kind 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.480 of learn pretty hard that, you know, you've got to 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.360 get a certain number of minutes shot every day, and 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.640 so you do have to hold it in at some point. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:43.000 But I think the more Dulcy crept into me, and 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.680 I was saying this to Mads, like, I never found 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:46.560 Mads annoying. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.240 You know, there's a point where dults just start it's 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:52.680 like enough enough. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.240 And I think once I got like I was able 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:59.400 to kind of get into that brain, get that headspace, 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.120 I found it easier to like hold into Dulcie and 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.040 just find the whirlwind that was happening around me more 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:09.000 and more infuriating. But in the early weeks of shooting 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:10.600 that was nearly impossible. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.840 Also, I think also like in the first few episodes 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.360 when it's like Eddie is just like does not want 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:17.280 to be in the town. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.960 Things, you know, like things keep happening. Once we sort 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:21.720 of started to. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.600 Actually, you know, once Dy and Dulcie start to work together, 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.520 and you know, people will see this when they watch 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.280 the show, but it does, you know, it starts to 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.720 take on a sort of deeper, darker tone. 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.760 I think the shows as it goes on, I feel 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.840 like it must have been easier then when we were 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:39.800 kind of yeah. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:41.760 It's easier that it was definitely. 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.199 Definitely in the first definitely in the first few episodes 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.240 when it's like when pretty much I was given license 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:52.400 to absolutely torment tatee box, Yeah, it must have been hard. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.760 Was that on the page? Because was there a lot 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:56.839 of ad libbing to your character to have it as 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.000 large as what it is, especially in the early few episodes, 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.480 I mean, or was that ad libbed the green room? 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.120 Yeah, just like just before the take, after the take. 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:11.160 TV the location, she'd rock up at my house. 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.360 Stepping on the window. I've got a line I want 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:20.439 to change. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.800 Yeah, how much of Kate McCartney and Kate mcclennan's work 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.040 had you both seen before starting this project? Sorry, Madeline, 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:28.960 I know you said that you collaborated with some of 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.960 the writing, but maybe, Kate, what had you seen before 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:33.040 taking on this role. 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.439 I'd already seen a lot of I think I've kind 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.520 of known their work for quite a long time. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.360 I just think that they're, you know, a couple of geniuses. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:44.600 So I've always been drawn to their comedy because I 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.640 think it really shakes up our community in a way 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.320 that we really need. I think they've worked, They've known 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.680 how to tread this line, you know, and they've just 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.320 gotten better and better at it. I don't know, I 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:56.920 can't think of a time where they weren't brilliant at 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.160 it actually, but I think, you know, putting it within 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.920 this crime Jon has just allowed it to grow into 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.880 something else as well. And their capacity to writer who 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.000 done it like it's wild, It is a real you do. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:09.800 At every turn, You're like, what. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.400 They're pretty and you know, like, what's impressive being part 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.319 of that writing team as well was that they taught. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.920 Themselves, how to do it, who done it, and they've 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.400 done it so good and like they're just they are. 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.760 I don't use that word lightly, but I do think 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.080 the Kate's genius is and I think we need to 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.040 we need to say that more because yeah, again, like 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.960 I was familiar with their work, and you know, even 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.720 in those small you know that their attention to detail 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.280 and those and those you know in the catering show 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:41.880 and the small little jokes here and there, and you 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.160 kind of what's what's so nice to see that be 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.000 given the platform it's been given with Deadlock is so 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.079 cool for them because that you know, we've watched the 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.720 show now we're on this this kind of press tour, 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.240 and so we've seen the show a few times now 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.560 and every time I'm still excited to see it because 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.319 there's just something else I missed. There's so many gigs, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.480 there's so many visual things, you know that for the 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.040 most part, were written. I mean, you know, we got 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.920 to improve a little bit, but you know, as much 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.320 as kind of time would allow, I guess, but so 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.080 much so much as what was on the page. 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.160 And like the Ksey last night, now, Q and I, 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:16.400 they cut most of the ed lib. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, without that, mate, there are a couple 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.560 of lines in there that I got on for sure. 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.199 But I think as well that it's also about creating 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.600 an atmosphere, and it's great that they gave you that 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:28.839 license to add live a little bit, because I guess 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:30.920 it's up to then in the editors suite to try 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.560 and pull those performances together and make sure that they're 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.920 coming off the way that they were intended very much. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.200 I mean the generosity of those two people that it 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.000 was so important to them that we felt like we 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.440 owned Dulcy and Eddie, that everybody, all the characters in 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.880 this show felt like that they owned their character. And 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.760 so for people who were as hard working and as 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.800 little sleeping as those two were, their door was constantly 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.360 open to you know, for any kind of question or 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.880 any any suggestion or you know, any what if. Yeah, 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.480 it was just it was really really important to them 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.840 that we sat inside these characters as our own. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.480 And you both were in Tasmania for six months, which 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.040 I would say is a long time to give up 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.120 your life and to commit to a role. Is that 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.520 a long shoot for a TV series being made in Australia? 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:18.439 It was the longest day. 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.160 It was a long no, yeah, I think it went 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.520 was was nine months, but that was not as intense. 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.520 But yeah, it was a long shoot. I think it's 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.080 mad and I I mean maybe had a day off. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.320 Yeah, we were just about in every scene and you 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.880 know it's still a it's a cop show. So the 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.840 physically it was very demanding as well. It's definitely the 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:42.400 longest shoot I've done and the most demanding probably. I mean, 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.600 you know, there's a lot of you know, Kate did 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.040 a lot of stunt driving. I don't know if the 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.560 world knows this, but Kate is a very good stunt driver. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:51.040 I always felt safe in that. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:51.440 Car with you. 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.720 I feel like Kate has just balanced out, you know, 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.720 all of that nerdy reading that we have accused her 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.400 of earlier with you know, some amazing stunt. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.360 Driving important to bring equilibrium back. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:03.160 She is very good. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.000 I just want to put that out there because you know, 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.040 I remember that first time we shot in the car 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:08.920 and you had to kind of scared and make the 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.240 dust kind of flyfe and I was like, yeah, pretty 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:12.000 much pretty hot. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.440 But yeah, it was it was pretty intense. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.120 I mean I think it was one week where you know, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.000 I do it like all my stunts, massive stunts, and 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.160 then I had I had a I had a couple of. 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.880 Massusas and Tazzy that I'd go to the local. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.440 I just like booked myself in every weekend because I 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.600 just knew, especially as the as the shoot went on 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.960 and the more grueling it got, I just it was 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.160 going to have to do what I could do to survive. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:36.920 Tom cruise to the whole thing. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.640 I did pretty much until the second to last night, 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.199 and there was like it was dark and there was 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.800 a paddock that we had to run across and our 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:46.599 stunty was like, John was like, do you want to 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:47.520 get the stundy in for this one? 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:48.360 I was like, yeah, why not? 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.880 Yeah it looks pretty uneven. I don't want to roll 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.079 my ankle. And so she had a run under the 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:53.800 only time. 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.000 They say not to work with animals because they can 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:57.400 be hard. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:58.800 How much of that she did work with me? 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:02.280 Yes, she did have a tough time. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.000 But the reason why I was asking you that because 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.640 how much of that seal that we'd wore A seal 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:12.280 was real? 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:12.920 Always real. 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:18.880 It's a real seal, the real deal seal. We're gonna 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.920 is it like a magician about Yeah, we allowed to 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.720 talk about the seal. I feel like I feel like 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.080 the Greyhound. 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:27.400 The Greyhound was very real. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.760 I just wanted to know because I kept looking at 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.240 that seal and wanting to know how much of it 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:31.680 was real. 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.200 Ok, it's so amazing, Benches director extraordinary. 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:39.360 I mean, there was an exhaustive process auditioning the seal. 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:45.480 We we went to many oceans. Yeah, all the oceans, 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.280 all the big oceans, submitted. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.120 Yeah, doing a chemistry read with the. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.320 Yeah. Yeah, but we we landed on the right seal 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.800 with just the right amount of just the right lack 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:00.440 of animation. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.720 Yeah right. They didn't mind getting tranquilized. Yeah, beautiful. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:05.520 Just Kevin tune out. 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.600 I can't remember if Kevin turns up again and again 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.400 he does, surely he's another he can't remember. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.480 I can't remember the show. I can't wait to watch it. 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:13.800 It's out today Prime Video. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:17.400 You know, the show has really strong LGBTI themes, but 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.760 it also doesn't feel like it's hitting you over the 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.320 face with that either. Have we come a long way 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.360 with telling LGBTI stories. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.360 I mean, yes, yes we have. I think so. 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.040 I think you just get creatives at the center that 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:35.680 you know, you know, have moved along talking about and 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:39.400 also have deep empathy and love for the community that 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.920 they're talking about. Also, I'm in the top four kind 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.280 of first four on the call sheet in this job. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.920 We're all queer like. It's just I think it's just 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.520 about us making it really. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.120 But it's also about you know, I think we've moved 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:52.200 We're at a pointland. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:52.920 There's a lot of. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.800 We're laughing at the community as well as giving respect 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.360 to the community. And I think definitely probably there was 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.200 a time where there was a sensitivity around things or 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.240 you know that it was just like a bunch of 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.160 like coming out stories in everything, everything had to have 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.960 trauma or whatever. And I feel like with Deadlock, like 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.520 you say, it's it's we're able to take this and 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.120 also be you know, like we're able to kind of 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.200 be more playful with queerness in this show as well 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.840 as kind of be serious at times as well. So 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:31.480 it feels it feels like a nuanced representation in this show. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.320 The show opens with a sex scene between Kate and 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.320 your character's partner, but after watching the show for a 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.680 few episodes, I just didn't think of this as being 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:40.640 a gay story. 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.760 We're living within it, like we're not kind of presenting it. 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:49.440 It's just life from within this so and I think 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:53.000 obviously there is a as we get further and further 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.280 into the series and it gets darker and darker, you know, 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:01.840 there's it deals with some pretty yeah, massive questions in 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.280 our society about you know, various communities and how we 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.800 how we treat various communities. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:13.639 And I just think that. 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.720 That that despite the fact that it is this wild, 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:19.680 you know, wild seering comedy, there has always just been 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.000 this real need to keep it anchored in these people's 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.400 voices as well, because as we get further and further 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.880 into the drama, I think I've. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:28.760 Lost my train of thought. 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.439 But you know, as we get further and further with you, you. 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.640 You soundedlike you were just getting very deep. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.000 Yeah, to never get the ships and giggles too much, 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.720 you know, to always kind of have these very very 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.400 strong voices held up throughout the whole thing. 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.400 The supporting cast is also amazing. You've got Tom Ballard, 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:50.639