1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: And if you have just joined us. The Australian newspaper 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Liam Mendez this morning reporting that domestic violence. A domestic 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: violence perpetrator who has reportedly been jailed multiple times for 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: breaching domestic violence orders, is on the staff of the 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Northern Territory's opposition spokesman for the Prevention of domestic violence. 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: So the electoral officer for the Country Liberal Party MP, 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Steve Edgington, has faced territory courts well reportedly twenty seven 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: times in the past four years on serious domestic violence 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: related charges, including multiple counts of contravening a domestic violence 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: order and a breach of bail. The forty three year 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: old was reportedly jailed twice last year, just months before 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: he was appointed to the electorate officer for the Berkley Region. Now, 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Robin Lambley is the member for our Lun and she 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: joins me, the independent Member for our Lun and she 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: joins me on the line. 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, Robin, Good morning Katie, Robin. What do you 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: make of this situation? 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: Well, it comes as a big surprise. I hold Stephen 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: Edgington in the highest regard, so this I didn't see 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: this coming and I suspect from what I read in 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: the Australian. I think it's blindsided him to some extent, 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: but I haven't spoken to Steve, so I don't know 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: that for sure. But this is concerning. I am not 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: going to defend him having this person in his office, 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: but I do think his side of the story needs 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: to be explained and he needs to make some decisions 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: about how he perceives he needs to get rid of 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: this guy and think about his future. 29 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: Well, he is going to be joining us on the 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: show this morning, in the next twenty minutes or so, 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: so hopefully we're able to get some of those questions answered. 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, the real common sense side of this, says 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: to me, Robin, surely you check, you know, like surely 34 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: you check your staff as before you employ them. 35 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: Look a lot over the last six months, Katie about 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: what we should and shouldn't do as members of Parliament. 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: I've since stumped my entire share portfolio. I've checked my 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: Facebook posts and now I have to look at my 39 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: own staff. I don't know if my staff have any 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: sort of criminal history. The staff you employ as a 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 3: member of Parliament in your electorate office are chosen by you. 42 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: They're not the same as regular public servants, you screen 43 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: your own staff or in this case not, and I 44 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: don't think probably most of us do that. We take 45 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: people on face value, we look at their credentials, their experience, 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: and that's probably the end of it. I would have 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: thought in the small community like tenant Creigsteve would have 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: known at least to some extent about this guy's history. 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: But I guess you can't assume anything. I don't check 50 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: the court lists to see if my employees, my electorate 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: staff list. I really couldn't tell you anything about them 52 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: apart from what they've offered up. So it's a learning 53 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 3: journey for all of us. What's happened in the Parliament 54 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: amongst our colleagues, parliamentary colleagues over the last six months. 55 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: It's not acceptable. None of this passes a pub test 56 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: and we have to get better, Robin. But I will say, Katie, 57 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: this situation is not unique to the COLP. Don't forget. 58 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 3: A few years back it was revealed that kent Row, 59 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: a sex offender, a pedophile, held senior positions within the 60 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: Labor Party and within the Labor Government for many years 61 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: during this reign of the Gunner Labor Government and presently, 62 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: So you know that all came as a shock to 63 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: everyone claimed they didn't know about it, even though there 64 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: are allegations at the time that some ministers did in 65 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: fact know about ken Row, the allegations against kent Row. 66 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: So you know this isn't just about the COLP. This 67 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: is a problem across the board in politics. 68 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: Robin. I mean, surely this for a start, this staff 69 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: needs to stand down. Yes, then I mean we've got 70 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Minister for Prevention of Domestic, Family and 71 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: sexually Sexual Violence, Kate ward And saying that mister Edgington's 72 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: position is now totally untenable. She says that Steve Edgington 73 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: should stand down over appointing this person. Robin, do you 74 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: think that his position is tenable? 75 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: Look, I don't know the story. I can understand why 76 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: Kate Warden's come out saying these things. It is disturbing, 77 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: It is inconsistent with the role, particularly as opposition spokesman 78 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: on domestic and family violence. Steve will have a story 79 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: to tell, and until I hear that, I'm not going 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: to say he should he should go at this point. 81 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: But look, there's a long list. As you said in 82 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 3: your introduction of people within the Parliament now who should 83 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 3: absolutely go And at the top of the list, given 84 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: what I know about all the different situations and scandals 85 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: that have evolved in the recent months, Brent Potter is 86 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: at the top of the list. With his Facebook pages, 87 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: his racist, sexist, misogynistic, blah blah blah Facebook poste. 88 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: So you reckon, that's worse. She reckoned. 89 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: That's worse than the fact that Steve has employed so. 90 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: Much worse because I'm not going to make that judgment, 91 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: but I think that there's people that have behaved deplorably. 92 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: Those Facebook posts of Potter's were as recent as five 93 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: years ago. Steve employed this guy after he came out 94 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: of jail. I think I heard you just say maybe 95 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: he didn't know about it. I don't know. I'm not 96 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: going to make excuses for any of these people. You 97 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: have to fall on your sword eventually if you do 98 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: the wrong thing, and until Potter and Peig fall on 99 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: their swords, I'm not inclined to demand it from Steve 100 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: Edgington mentill I know the full story. 101 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: Well, I reckon. 102 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: That's how probably how people are feeling this morning as well, Robin, 103 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: because you know it's I guess if you set the 104 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: bar low, you know, like we feel as though the 105 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: bar is currently, you can't then expect the people on 106 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: the other team to be held to a higher standard. 107 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: And that's how a lot of people are going to 108 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: be looking at Labor right now. Is Yes, Steve should 109 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: not have employed somebody with this history that he's been 110 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: reported in the Australian newspaper. He should have checked exactly 111 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: you know this person's background, particularly if he is the 112 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: opposition spokesperson for domestic and family violence. But the Labor 113 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: Party has set the bar incredibly low when you look 114 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: at what we've all gone through just this year alone. 115 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: Look at Fastical, I mean, it's really cast a shadow 116 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: over all of us in the Parliament. It feels like 117 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: we've gone back to the dramas within the former COLP government, 118 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: except I think they've notched it up a notch. Or 119 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: to Katie, this is not good and Territorians deserve better. 120 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: We need to flush out people who've done the wrong 121 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: thing and Steve may or may not be included in that. 122 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: I'm not willing to call that, but definitely Potter and 123 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: Paig should go, as did Natasha Files just before Christmas. 124 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: You can't have people in high offices such as ministers, 125 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: let alone opposition spokespeople who seem to be conflicted and 126 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: hip a critical in how they lead their own lives 127 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: compared to how they tell us to lead our life. 128 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: Robin, let's move along because there is a lot to 129 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: discuss out of Central Australia. I want to talk about 130 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: how things are going in Alice Springs. Crime once again 131 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: making headlines. On the weekend, we spoke to Peter Holden 132 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: from Lura Tippa who said that they had serious issues 133 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: since the removal of the police. He said that on 134 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: the weekend alone they had to shut down one of 135 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: their supermarkets. Two staff members were allegedly assaulted. 136 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: Has it really gotten. 137 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: That bad just over the last couple of weeks as 138 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: a result of the removal of these police It. 139 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: Has, Katie, This is no exaggeration. It justifies belief that 140 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: here we are in March twenty twenty four, after years 141 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: and years of implementing and tweaking and setting all these 142 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: alcohol policies, that for some random reason, the Police Minister 143 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: and the Police Executive have decided to take away the 144 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: single most effective strategy at reducing alcohol harm in Alice Springs, 145 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: and that is putting police outside of bottle shops. They 146 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: have been there since twenty eleven, on and off. When 147 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: Labor came to government back in twenty sixteen, they removed 148 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: them for a while. They didn't have complete coverage in 149 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen and a part of twenty eighteen. They learnt 150 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: from that experience that is an absolute disaster to do that. 151 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: They re implemented them, They made them stronger, they turned 152 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: them into auxiliaries, they strengthened them, They acknowledged that they 153 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: had to be there. And here we have Brent Potter, 154 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: the new Northern Territory Police Minister, telling us that we 155 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: don't need full coverage anymore. We have roving or mobile 156 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: police units checking the five out of the nine bottle 157 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: shops on a fairly random basis, rather than having the 158 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: police there throughout the whole entire time. The bottle shops open. 159 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 3: It has opened the rivers of grog again. People are despairing. 160 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: He was on ABC Radio Alice Springs radio early this morning. 161 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: The feedback on the lone has been just scamming of Potter. 162 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 3: It just makes no sense for me. You've got Congress 163 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: the esteemed aboriginal health organization in Alice Springs that has 164 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: been working with me for almost decades or literally decades, 165 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: trying to build up a system of alcohol reduction strategies 166 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: in our town to address this terrible problem we have 167 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: with grog. And yet within a matter of minutes and days, 168 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: Brent Potter has dismantled all that he needs to go 169 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: Katie for so many reasons, and this is another one. 170 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: He is, as the Chief Minister said, an idiot. 171 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: It's a situation robin where he seems to be saying 172 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: one thing. And I know that the police Commissioner had 173 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: spoken earlier this morning as well, all publicly and had 174 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: said that you know, there are still palis rotating, as 175 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: you've just touched on as well. But then you've got 176 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: people on the ground going this is not enough and 177 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: screaming out for help. I guess then the issue we've 178 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: got is that now we're being told that twenty additional 179 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: officers are going to be going to Alice Springs to 180 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: try and to try and help with all these issues 181 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: that you guys are experiencing. All the while we're feeling 182 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: like we don't have enough cops up here in the 183 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: top end. 184 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: It's a shambles right across the Northern Territory. Now was 185 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 3: sort of a little bit more confined to the center 186 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: of the Northern Territory Central Australia. Now it's everywhere. So yes, 187 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed to say we've taken twenty coppers from the 188 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: top end. But Potter said on ABC Alic Springs radio 189 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: this morning that they weren't being sent down to address 190 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: the chaos that he'd caused. 191 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: They're going there for. 192 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: Outside of our bottle shops. I forget what he exactly said, 193 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: but almost like just general law and order duties, trying 194 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: to dumb it down, minimize it and basically lie to people. 195 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: And that's the feedback that was coming through the Alice 196 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 3: Springs radio station this morning that people and buy it 197 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: for a second year. This is just such bad policy, 198 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 3: bad decision making. It is just so destructive. You know, 199 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: during the at the end of the Stronger Futures legislation, 200 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: when we saw all those alcohol bands that had been 201 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: in place for over fifteen years across Central Australia lift, 202 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 3: we saw domestic violence levels double. And this is what 203 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: people are talking about now that we're heading down that 204 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: same terrible trajectory as seeing harm in our community just 205 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: explode again, and that just it literally makes me cry 206 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 3: because it's so wrong that an idiot like Potter can 207 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: step into a position that course so much harm. 208 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: Well, Robin, we are going to have to leave it there. Look, 209 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: I feel for you, guys. I feel for you in 210 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: Alice Springs. It's not acceptable. The level of crime that 211 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: we're seeing across the board is totally unacceptable. It's something 212 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: we talk about every single day on this show. And 213 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: I think you know one thing that at leads the 214 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: listeners up here in the top end of got is 215 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: they probably feel like they're not alone because I'm talking. 216 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 2: About it every day and their voices are being heard. 217 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: Now. I know for you guys in Alice Springs. You 218 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: know you've got your local media there, but it must 219 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: be really tough dealing with what you're dealing with every 220 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: single day and feeling like you're not being listened to 221 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: by people in Darwin. 222 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: So I really feel for you guys. 223 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: Thanks Katie. My fear is that sooner or later Darwen 224 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 3: Darwin will experience the same level of crime that we 225 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: have down in our springs, which is around twenty percent 226 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: more incidents of crime in Alice Springs than in Darwin, 227 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: so you know it's coming your way. I hate to 228 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: say it, but under this government, this is what you'll get. 229 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: Robin Lamley. 230 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: I always appreciate your time and we'll have you on 231 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: Friday as well for the week that was. 232 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: Yes you will, I'm looking forward to it. It's been 233 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: a while. 234 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: Thank lovely. Thanks Robin.