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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda Jamny.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm thrilled to be host of a new show

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Speaker 2: on the ABC. It starts to night at eight thirty.

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Speaker 2: It's called the Role of a Lifetime and it looks

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Speaker 2: at parenting in a world that has changed so much.

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Speaker 1: It throws up so many issues that our parents would

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Speaker 1: never have had to deal with.

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Speaker 2: We look at online gambling, a body image for boys

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Speaker 2: and for girls.

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Speaker 1: Well there's Jim Jacked.

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Speaker 2: Young boys that feel they need to have this new

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Speaker 2: vision of masculinity.

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Speaker 1: We look at bullying.

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Speaker 2: All of this gets covered under the guidance of author

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Speaker 2: and parenting guru Maggie Dent, who joins us now, Maggie, Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Amanda go you Oh you've just cut out, don't

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Speaker 3: you reckon? We're like bookends.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what you mean by us being bookends, Well, we.

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Speaker 3: Just s these lovely, wise, funny women that make everyone

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Speaker 3: realize that no one's nailing this journey. Adolescence has always

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Speaker 3: been difficult, but that we really can see it through

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Speaker 3: a lens of compassion and maybe a bit more lightness

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Speaker 3: and then get the facts and then have another go.

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Speaker 3: I think I think it's a great blend of sitcom

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Speaker 3: with a bit of docco with you leading it. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's such a good show.

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Speaker 1: But also, yes, that's right.

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Speaker 2: It's not a we look at the issues, but it's

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Speaker 2: not a serious yes, hand ringing kind of a show because,

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Speaker 2: as you say, we optimistically parents can still guide their kids.

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Speaker 1: Kids want our guidance. It's all going to be okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think also what I love about it,

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Speaker 3: and you would have too, is that sometimes our tweens

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Speaker 3: and teens know more about stuff than we do because

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Speaker 3: of that digital world that they exist in. So I

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Speaker 3: love it that really you know that sometimes like it's

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Speaker 3: the eleven year old boy who figures out something that

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Speaker 3: mum and nan haven't worked out about something being fake online.

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Speaker 3: And I think this is the part of it. We

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Speaker 3: need to be together. So it's about, yeah, jump on

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Speaker 3: the couch with your tween orteen. You're going to cry,

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Speaker 3: you're going to laugh, you're going to feel really cringey,

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Speaker 3: but you're going to get some really good information about

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Speaker 3: how to keep them safe on the bumpiest ride there's

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Speaker 3: ever been that I think is bumpier and harder today because.

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Speaker 4: When I was a kid, your parents didn't know anything

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Speaker 4: about what I did.

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Speaker 1: Having said that the kind of did they knew, they

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Speaker 1: knew who.

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Speaker 2: Your friends were after school, and yeah, basically where you

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Speaker 2: were now it's all hidden in.

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Speaker 3: The face, and they knew that what you would you

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Speaker 3: didn't have a phone, that you were disappearing down rabbit

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Speaker 3: holes of being, you know, conditioned by misogynistic content that

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Speaker 3: nobody knew was only going to tween the teen boys

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Speaker 3: like that sort of stuff. You it's not your fault.

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Speaker 3: We didn't We didn't know, but we now know. And

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Speaker 3: there's been a I did a big survey with collective

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Speaker 3: shout about the increase in sexual harassment in our schools,

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Speaker 3: particularly towards female teachers and girls, and it's it's poorn language,

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Speaker 3: rape threats, disgusting things that never was there. You've always

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Speaker 3: never learned it. And so how we winding that back?

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Speaker 3: Because you know, if we didn't have those damn phones

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Speaker 3: and they weren't watching pornography and listening to that talk,

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't be happening, because that's not a normal part

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Speaker 3: of adolescent development. And we want to know how can

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Speaker 3: we help them be the best version of themselves?

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Speaker 4: Sometimes and you know what I've noticed.

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Speaker 5: I just saw this the other day A girl was

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Speaker 5: walking past in the yoga pants, past a building site,

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Speaker 5: and I was just on my motorbike at the lights,

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Speaker 5: and I was going, well, how's this going to go?

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Speaker 4: And none of the guys said anything.

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Speaker 5: You know, back in say the seventies or eighties, there

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Speaker 5: would have been a whole raft of cat calls and stuff.

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Speaker 5: So are we now internalizing this stuff because on social

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Speaker 5: media get all the andrew Tates stuff for the young guys,

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Speaker 5: so they just internalize it and they say it to

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Speaker 5: the women who are close in.

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Speaker 4: Their life, but not necessarily to a stranger.

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Speaker 3: I think it depends on the building site, because I've

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Speaker 3: seen the opposite. I've seen it even more disgusting. But

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Speaker 3: I do think there's an increasing awareness. We've got fabulous

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Speaker 3: people going into our high schools now that are working

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Speaker 3: with our boys about helping them work out and how

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Speaker 3: they can become a man that's not only a man

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Speaker 3: so when he has heart and back and compassion for others,

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Speaker 3: and that they don't have to follow. I think it's

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Speaker 3: a bit of each because I think we are becoming

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Speaker 3: more aware. But I think that's a culture thing. And

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Speaker 3: there are some building sites with good culture and some

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Speaker 3: without exactly as there are with humans. I don't believe

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Speaker 3: in toxic masculinity. I believe we have toxic males and

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Speaker 3: the same that we need to come to a place

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Speaker 3: of respect for both genders. And I think they do

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Speaker 3: a really really powerful episode Amanda, where we look at

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Speaker 3: the difference for boys and girls on this journey. Hard hitting,

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Speaker 3: hard to watch, but incredibly important for us all to know,

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Speaker 3: especially not just mums and dads and teens. It's grandparents,

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Speaker 3: it's lighthouse figures, it's teachers, it's coaches. So I want

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Speaker 3: us all on the couch watching it, and the way

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Speaker 3: they've done it means it's entertaining enough that you actually

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Speaker 3: do want to watch the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: A couple of interviews I've done about the show recently,

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Speaker 2: people have asked me, what's one or two big tips

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Speaker 2: to come away with? Have you got any just off

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Speaker 2: the top of your head to solve the world's problems?

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Speaker 3: Maggie, Yeah, oh look, I think we next first one

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Speaker 3: is that you know this is happening in all homes.

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Speaker 3: No one's nailing parenting, and adolescents are meant to be

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Speaker 3: difficult because they're emerging as adults. But the big one

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Speaker 3: for me is and I think we get that from

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Speaker 3: the theories, is that there's you know, there's love in

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Speaker 3: that home. There're two parents battling themselves through with a

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Speaker 3: tween and a teen, all the issues, but at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day, there's love. And I'm going to say,

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Speaker 3: you know that was my last book helped me help

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Speaker 3: my team. If they haven't got a safe base, if

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Speaker 3: it's not home and they haven't got one, they're more

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Speaker 3: at risk of struggling as they go into adulthood. So

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Speaker 3: it's about us lightning up, just coming home and landing

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Speaker 3: on love. That's really what what we all need.

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Speaker 4: That's all we need. The Beetles said it, that's all

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Speaker 4: we need. I'm looking forward to seeing you tonight.

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Speaker 5: The brand new series starts tonight eight p thirty on ABC,

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Speaker 5: I View and a b C TV.

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Speaker 4: Maggie didn't thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: And if you see Amanda Kella Teller, I said, how La.

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Speaker 1: No, she doesn't answer your calls and she.

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Speaker 5: Won't answer my calls. I don't know what she's changed, man,

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Speaker 5: She's gone all ABC.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Maggie,