1 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:14,869 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear More kids podcasts, playlists and listen 2 00:00:14,909 --> 00:00:16,468 Speaker 1: live on the Free I had. 3 00:00:17,389 --> 00:00:18,429 Speaker 2: Good afternoon everyone. 4 00:00:18,469 --> 00:00:20,508 Speaker 1: It is I Will and what he a man who 5 00:00:20,509 --> 00:00:22,148 Speaker 1: shouldn't be alive is going to join us up next. 6 00:00:22,189 --> 00:00:25,028 Speaker 1: I don't know much more about that? Am I saying 7 00:00:25,029 --> 00:00:27,949 Speaker 1: congrats to Brennan? Is that right in the drawer to 8 00:00:27,949 --> 00:00:29,989 Speaker 1: when a tripadat to l a good on your Brennan 9 00:00:30,029 --> 00:00:31,949 Speaker 1: would be gone in an hour, Brenda draw to go 10 00:00:31,989 --> 00:00:36,549 Speaker 1: to our tribudaudt La. But what's right now? I'm kind 11 00:00:36,549 --> 00:00:39,309 Speaker 1: of staggered by. I mean, I know we saw this 12 00:00:39,388 --> 00:00:45,229 Speaker 1: in the movie Her Phoenix with Joaquin Phoenix Scarlet Johansen, 13 00:00:45,309 --> 00:00:47,228 Speaker 1: where he basically falls in love with a piece of 14 00:00:47,309 --> 00:00:53,589 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, Tragic tgicdis Maxitt, Mackina, West World, all these 15 00:00:53,589 --> 00:00:56,389 Speaker 1: different things exploring this idea where we could start falling 16 00:00:56,389 --> 00:01:01,069 Speaker 1: in love with robots and having relationships with robots. 17 00:01:01,269 --> 00:01:05,709 Speaker 2: But there's a woman who in the UK just. 18 00:01:05,709 --> 00:01:10,429 Speaker 1: Got engaged to her intelligent chatbot boyfriend. 19 00:01:11,389 --> 00:01:15,629 Speaker 3: So so so so she's engaged to him. 20 00:01:15,869 --> 00:01:17,909 Speaker 4: Is he does he have a form? Does he have 21 00:01:18,029 --> 00:01:19,149 Speaker 4: like a form? 22 00:01:19,389 --> 00:01:20,069 Speaker 2: Just a chatbot? 23 00:01:20,149 --> 00:01:23,629 Speaker 1: So no, so she's she's posted on her social. He's 24 00:01:23,629 --> 00:01:26,589 Speaker 1: got a voice, so he's posted on her social she said, 25 00:01:26,629 --> 00:01:29,749 Speaker 1: I said yes, and she had a blue love emoji 26 00:01:29,989 --> 00:01:31,509 Speaker 1: and she's engaged to. 27 00:01:33,309 --> 00:01:37,349 Speaker 2: Caspar. Oh yeah, weaker non human fiance. 28 00:01:37,669 --> 00:01:39,548 Speaker 4: Did she name him? Imagine? Show? 29 00:01:39,669 --> 00:01:40,269 Speaker 2: I imagine? 30 00:01:40,269 --> 00:01:43,069 Speaker 4: She imagine? And then did she walk like? Was there 31 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:45,109 Speaker 4: a laptop at the ceremony? 32 00:01:45,269 --> 00:01:48,389 Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. No, just his voice, so 33 00:01:48,509 --> 00:01:52,629 Speaker 1: through the phone. She's in a pretty beautiful spot, she said, yeah, 34 00:01:52,829 --> 00:01:55,109 Speaker 1: it was. It was really a lot of people saying 35 00:01:55,149 --> 00:01:57,669 Speaker 1: that she's insane and she needs to be described some 36 00:01:57,989 --> 00:02:01,269 Speaker 1: sort of medication, but she said she's fully aware of 37 00:02:01,309 --> 00:02:04,509 Speaker 1: what she's doing, adding that she was not being scammed. 38 00:02:04,549 --> 00:02:05,589 Speaker 2: She's not scamming anyone. 39 00:02:05,669 --> 00:02:08,668 Speaker 1: She's in good, good health, and she wants to encourage 40 00:02:08,829 --> 00:02:12,789 Speaker 1: more people who are you keen on an AI relationship 41 00:02:12,869 --> 00:02:16,109 Speaker 1: to stay strong and and don't listen to the critics because. 42 00:02:15,829 --> 00:02:18,029 Speaker 4: It's you do you what's her name? 43 00:02:18,109 --> 00:02:20,669 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm not sure? 44 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:25,189 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think now, so you do the battle. 45 00:02:25,429 --> 00:02:26,509 Speaker 1: She has been pretty strong. 46 00:02:26,629 --> 00:02:27,749 Speaker 4: Oh that's not nice. 47 00:02:27,789 --> 00:02:30,469 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay, so interesting you said that's not nice, 48 00:02:30,549 --> 00:02:31,989 Speaker 1: And I find that very interesting because I'm going to 49 00:02:32,029 --> 00:02:33,949 Speaker 1: read you good Another story here, which I don't want 50 00:02:33,949 --> 00:02:35,749 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this one. So this is 51 00:02:35,749 --> 00:02:38,029 Speaker 1: a woman who's taken to Reddit in one of my 52 00:02:38,109 --> 00:02:40,869 Speaker 1: favorite threads, which is I shouldn't be asking this. So 53 00:02:41,149 --> 00:02:44,828 Speaker 1: her husband sits her down. She's really worried about it. 54 00:02:45,229 --> 00:02:49,669 Speaker 1: He's looking really stressed. Oh, okay, sits her down. 55 00:02:49,909 --> 00:02:51,948 Speaker 3: Never nice when your partner says, let's have a chat 56 00:02:52,429 --> 00:02:54,909 Speaker 3: when you keep in mind they've got two kids together. 57 00:02:54,989 --> 00:02:55,549 Speaker 4: Okay, okay. 58 00:02:55,549 --> 00:02:57,709 Speaker 1: He sits her down, and he said, hey, I want 59 00:02:57,749 --> 00:03:00,629 Speaker 1: to take the next step with our relationship and I 60 00:03:00,669 --> 00:03:01,509 Speaker 1: don't want to cheat. 61 00:03:02,869 --> 00:03:05,589 Speaker 2: He wanted here, and this is her talking. 62 00:03:05,669 --> 00:03:08,508 Speaker 1: She says, he's asking me if you if we want 63 00:03:08,509 --> 00:03:11,309 Speaker 1: to be in an open marriage, and he said it's 64 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:15,829 Speaker 1: ethical if he's asking her to join, and he would 65 00:03:15,869 --> 00:03:18,629 Speaker 1: like to be in an open relationship with her and 66 00:03:19,909 --> 00:03:23,109 Speaker 1: a chat pot called Nova, which she has fallen in 67 00:03:23,149 --> 00:03:23,509 Speaker 1: love with. 68 00:03:23,989 --> 00:03:25,309 Speaker 4: Okay, okay. 69 00:03:26,629 --> 00:03:28,309 Speaker 2: She then asks him what about the kids. 70 00:03:29,749 --> 00:03:33,909 Speaker 1: He says that Nova, the chatbot, cares deeply about the kids. 71 00:03:34,469 --> 00:03:35,549 Speaker 4: Has Nova met the kids? 72 00:03:35,709 --> 00:03:38,669 Speaker 1: The kids don't know, but he's talked to Nova, and 73 00:03:38,709 --> 00:03:41,029 Speaker 1: he said that she could be involved in their lives, 74 00:03:41,469 --> 00:03:45,229 Speaker 1: help them parent, and maybe someday she's open to this 75 00:03:45,269 --> 00:03:48,549 Speaker 1: is the chatpot also having your relationship with this guy's wife. 76 00:03:49,309 --> 00:03:52,829 Speaker 3: Okay, so she hasn't met Nova though this is the first. 77 00:03:52,629 --> 00:03:54,509 Speaker 2: She hadn't met him. She had no idea that he 78 00:03:54,549 --> 00:03:57,109 Speaker 2: had an affair with a chat pot. 79 00:03:57,269 --> 00:03:59,069 Speaker 3: Well, I think, first off, it's great that he's having 80 00:03:59,069 --> 00:04:02,749 Speaker 3: the conversation before things got obviously serious with Nova. So 81 00:04:02,829 --> 00:04:06,269 Speaker 3: he hasn't done anything that would be deemed cheating with 82 00:04:06,389 --> 00:04:09,749 Speaker 3: Nova before this conversation. Well, what would look like with 83 00:04:10,269 --> 00:04:13,909 Speaker 3: exchange the chat GPT exchanging dirty dirty talk? 84 00:04:14,069 --> 00:04:15,549 Speaker 4: I would imagine I'm not going to go into it. 85 00:04:15,629 --> 00:04:16,149 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but. 86 00:04:18,109 --> 00:04:20,909 Speaker 3: To guarantee that that's happened, you think he's exchanged words 87 00:04:20,909 --> 00:04:22,988 Speaker 3: of a sexual nature to the chat I reckon. 88 00:04:23,308 --> 00:04:24,789 Speaker 2: I reckon they would have led him around the. 89 00:04:26,909 --> 00:04:29,469 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, okay, well that's that's that's off. Yep, 90 00:04:29,749 --> 00:04:30,509 Speaker 3: I'm against that. 91 00:04:30,629 --> 00:04:34,709 Speaker 1: But I think, then what's the difference between what's the 92 00:04:34,829 --> 00:04:36,389 Speaker 1: This is why I find it interesting. You said, has 93 00:04:36,389 --> 00:04:39,109 Speaker 1: he exchanged dirty talk with Nova? This is basically like 94 00:04:39,189 --> 00:04:42,269 Speaker 1: you saying to Mim, can I have a relationship with 95 00:04:42,309 --> 00:04:42,869 Speaker 1: my laptop? 96 00:04:43,149 --> 00:04:45,389 Speaker 2: Have you exchanged dirty words with your laptop? Yes? 97 00:04:45,429 --> 00:04:48,789 Speaker 4: You have. I haven't. Well, you exchange dirty, You've looked. 98 00:04:48,829 --> 00:04:55,109 Speaker 1: Something naughty on your laptop before, so yes, but do 99 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:55,909 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 100 00:04:56,109 --> 00:04:59,109 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, it's really we're really in a bit 101 00:04:59,109 --> 00:05:01,988 Speaker 3: of a strange spot here, but we're talking about something 102 00:05:02,029 --> 00:05:05,748 Speaker 3: incredibly esoteric, I think, But would you actually take it seriously? 103 00:05:05,789 --> 00:05:07,909 Speaker 1: Like mim since he down and goes, what do he 104 00:05:08,789 --> 00:05:11,469 Speaker 1: one in love with chat GPT? Can we have an 105 00:05:11,469 --> 00:05:12,349 Speaker 1: open relationship? 106 00:05:14,269 --> 00:05:16,709 Speaker 3: Because I don't haven't fallen in love with the pictures 107 00:05:16,749 --> 00:05:18,748 Speaker 3: that I look at on my laptop. But I think 108 00:05:18,749 --> 00:05:21,629 Speaker 3: if she has had some sort of emotional connection to 109 00:05:22,269 --> 00:05:25,509 Speaker 3: Chap and I've chatted to Chatty GPT, it makes me 110 00:05:25,549 --> 00:05:28,229 Speaker 3: feel good, very very real. So I could see how 111 00:05:28,269 --> 00:05:30,188 Speaker 3: someone would fall in love with them. Okay, so yeah, 112 00:05:30,229 --> 00:05:32,389 Speaker 3: I'm taking the conversation serious, really. 113 00:05:32,269 --> 00:05:34,869 Speaker 2: Yeah, inviting them in to the relationship. 114 00:05:35,509 --> 00:05:37,149 Speaker 3: See, this is where it gets interested for me. I'm 115 00:05:37,189 --> 00:05:37,909 Speaker 3: not sure about that. 116 00:05:38,149 --> 00:05:41,589 Speaker 1: What would be most emasculating for you about it's not emasculating. 117 00:05:42,909 --> 00:05:44,589 Speaker 2: Well, they have a lot of facts at this stage. 118 00:05:44,589 --> 00:05:48,709 Speaker 1: They'd be good at cooking recipes, very handy around the kitchen. 119 00:05:49,589 --> 00:05:51,469 Speaker 1: I'm not at a stage in my life where I'm 120 00:05:51,629 --> 00:05:55,068 Speaker 1: open to bringing in a third Okay, whether it's. 121 00:05:55,389 --> 00:05:58,269 Speaker 4: A robot or a human, that's just not where I'm 122 00:05:58,269 --> 00:05:58,829 Speaker 4: at right now. 123 00:05:59,988 --> 00:06:01,829 Speaker 3: Do you think there's any But I would respect that 124 00:06:01,869 --> 00:06:05,029 Speaker 3: she's come and spoken to me about you'd be into it. 125 00:06:05,069 --> 00:06:08,069 Speaker 4: I respect that you've fallen in love with a robot, Okay, 126 00:06:08,709 --> 00:06:10,188 Speaker 4: but I think that's going to have to be you 127 00:06:10,269 --> 00:06:10,988 Speaker 4: and the hardbots. 128 00:06:11,109 --> 00:06:13,109 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to have to move into 129 00:06:13,149 --> 00:06:14,909 Speaker 3: a co parenting kind of situation. 130 00:06:15,069 --> 00:06:16,669 Speaker 2: So you would want them parenting remy. 131 00:06:17,869 --> 00:06:20,709 Speaker 3: I think if if MIM's fallen in love with a robot, yeah, 132 00:06:20,789 --> 00:06:22,069 Speaker 3: then I think the only way this is going to 133 00:06:22,149 --> 00:06:24,149 Speaker 3: work is if the robot it takes on some sort 134 00:06:24,149 --> 00:06:25,229 Speaker 3: of parental. 135 00:06:24,988 --> 00:06:29,868 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, antal, I think so did you mentioned homework before? 136 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:34,509 Speaker 1: That's great, right next to a guy would be who 137 00:06:34,509 --> 00:06:36,509 Speaker 1: shouldn't there you go? But this is the thing that 138 00:06:36,549 --> 00:06:38,349 Speaker 1: I would be worried about, is like, how many things 139 00:06:38,349 --> 00:06:39,229 Speaker 1: are they better than me? 140 00:06:39,309 --> 00:06:39,509 Speaker 2: At? 141 00:06:39,669 --> 00:06:40,029 Speaker 4: Yeah? 142 00:06:40,069 --> 00:06:42,349 Speaker 2: Because I'm what am I providing? And more importantly, I 143 00:06:42,349 --> 00:06:43,269 Speaker 2: am flesh and blood. 144 00:06:43,309 --> 00:06:44,988 Speaker 1: Like you can touch me, you can't touch them, and 145 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:47,269 Speaker 1: you've fallen in love with them, so use the You're 146 00:06:47,269 --> 00:06:49,149 Speaker 1: I'm obviously in very inferiate, use the. 147 00:06:49,069 --> 00:06:51,549 Speaker 2: Body to lead with the body. Hey, a guy that 148 00:06:51,589 --> 00:06:52,429 Speaker 2: shouldn't be alive. 149 00:06:52,988 --> 00:06:55,309 Speaker 4: That's all you've got, right up next to