Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 3: I just did a massive breath out and you went,
Speaker 3: what's she doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Gearing up? How is your breathing? Yeah, it's getting better.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 3: I had a bit of a long covid vibe. Is
Speaker 3: that ski, No, life's too short to worry about that.
Speaker 3: Worry about what having long covid?
Speaker 2: Okay, I get you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, today we're gonna be talking about Karen esque behavior.
Speaker 3: Don't make me say the tenth time, but I'm a Karen.
Speaker 2: Nobody's made you disclose. This fully came from you out
Speaker 2: of nowhere. There is a bit of a rumor starting
Speaker 2: in the comments that somehow I was one who called
Speaker 2: you a Karen and therefore yourself identifying this did not
Speaker 2: come from me. I know it sounds like it would have.
Speaker 3: I didn't you talking about comments all the time. I
Speaker 3: haven't seen these comments.
Speaker 2: You gotta go on our TikTok and our my TikTok
Speaker 2: and my reels because people are always doing discourse there.
Speaker 2: TikTok is long taking them taking stuff too seriously.
Speaker 3: I come to I'm like, gosh, oh yeah, I posted
Speaker 3: the other day that clip of me laughing about the
Speaker 3: aliens and I got all these comments with Denise hit
Speaker 3: this ain't it? I really usually like your content. I'm like,
Speaker 3: do you really, because if you did, you would know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Denise Stoner, for those of you who didn't see
Speaker 2: it a couple of weeks ago, now through me, was
Speaker 2: trying to disprove the disproved that aliens exist, and so
Speaker 2: naturally she brought in some evidence, which is really awesome.
Speaker 2: I was open to hearing it. It's good to maintain
Speaker 2: an open mind. It was a first person recount of
Speaker 2: Denise Stoner's encounter with what she says were aliens, but
Speaker 2: she was also two years old when it happened. But
Speaker 2: basically the one and a half minute clip consisted of
Speaker 2: about fifty five seconds of Rooms laughing and about twenty
Speaker 2: eight seconds of me looking confused. And the comments on
Speaker 2: Frooms's page were, you know, usually I like your content,
Speaker 2: but it's really mean to be laughing about about people's
Speaker 2: beliefs like this is really offensive. Good on flex taking
Speaker 2: it on the gym? Were need alien discrimination acts? Yeah?
Speaker 2: For real? I don't know how we got to that point,
Speaker 2: but anyway, we're going to be discussing thummy's self, dignifying
Speaker 2: self diagnosed Karen behavior, which I want to get into
Speaker 2: in more detail because being a twenty seven year old
Speaker 2: Karen's pretty rare.
Speaker 3: You know what it's because I'm starting it, so the evolution.
Speaker 3: By the time I am of Karen age, I'm sick
Speaker 3: of being a Karen on.
Speaker 2: Your phase back out nice.
Speaker 3: Life is a cycle, and it's a circle. And stick
Speaker 3: around because.
Speaker 2: Here we go. Life is a cycle, and it's a circle.
Speaker 2: That's really lovely.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: It's been a minute since I've asked you a moral dilemma,
Speaker 2: because usually it's incriminating you for my every time and
Speaker 2: trying to figure out the middle grounds. And I don't
Speaker 2: want that to be the case. So I'm coming to
Speaker 2: you with a light one because I'm actually intrigued to
Speaker 2: see what you would do. So the question is, what
Speaker 2: will you do in the first twenty four hours of
Speaker 2: winning fifty million dollars? It's in your account, it's there
Speaker 2: ready for you to spend. You've woken up, it's nine
Speaker 2: am on the dot. What are you doing? Okay?
Speaker 3: I am going to McDonald's because McDonald's is my death
Speaker 3: row meal. So it's also kind of like the meal
Speaker 3: when I celebrate things when it's my birthday.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that, humble queen.
Speaker 3: So go to McDonald's, get anything that I want. Probably,
Speaker 3: I still want to live within my means because I
Speaker 3: know the more money you have, the easier it is
Speaker 3: to dispense it through different There's fifty million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't tack me every day, every meal and not
Speaker 2: even make a dent in it.
Speaker 3: I've probably gone to real estate dot com and like,
Speaker 3: have a look at what I could buy, start planning.
Speaker 3: I go visit my parents, maybe take them out for
Speaker 3: a beautiful dinner, go for a go to a car
Speaker 3: out of my dad, give him a car, that kind
Speaker 3: of fun stuff. Make said of my parents, you never
Speaker 3: have to work again from this day forward. Drop it
Speaker 3: on a few quotables that way, an't that?
Speaker 2: Do you do? I will? The tricky thing is I
Speaker 2: had seen a TikTok that ID posed this question and
Speaker 2: somebody responding to it. So I think it skewed my
Speaker 2: idea of what I would or wouldn't do. But I
Speaker 2: can tell you what is best practice. So immediately you
Speaker 2: should be going to see a lawyer. Oh yeah, to
Speaker 2: safeguard you, to make sure that you're protected with this
Speaker 2: extra income and wealth. Apparently it's actually quite dangerous to
Speaker 2: have it be known that you've won any kind of
Speaker 2: money that's like, you know, a lumpsum. So you should
Speaker 2: go to a lawyer allegedly. Then from there that lawyer
Speaker 2: should put you in touch with a financial planner of
Speaker 2: some sort and then almost like protect you from your
Speaker 2: wealth in some senses. So give yourself an allowance, maybe
Speaker 2: get a million dollars a year. Maybe you're allowed to
Speaker 2: make a few key purchases and the rest gets put away.
Speaker 2: Not what it might be, but I feel like after
Speaker 2: you do that first big batch of spending, like you
Speaker 2: get the iPad, you know, no Apple iPad, You get
Speaker 2: the McLaren, you get the Lambeau, you buy a house,
Speaker 2: Maybe you invest in a few businesses, become a little angel.
Speaker 3: Investor great time to be investing. Stock market half crash? Yes,
Speaker 3: great time. You might go through ten mil and be
Speaker 3: like not what to do? Great stop, and then from
Speaker 3: there play it cool.
Speaker 2: You got to do that Zuckerberg thing where you just
Speaker 2: wear the same T shirt and jeans every day so
Speaker 2: everyone thinks you're a simple person, but realistically the T
Speaker 2: shirt is five hundred dollars and the jeans are a
Speaker 2: thousand dollars and you're a robot? What car would you get?
Speaker 2: A hummer? What? You don't like that? This is giving
Speaker 2: or you don't like me? This just reminds me. We
Speaker 2: were talking earlier outside the studio about the era where
Speaker 2: you had a cube. Yeah, what's like it's the ugliest
Speaker 2: scar on. Honest, if they did luxury cubes, I would
Speaker 2: go back. I'm a push to start heated seat, ceramic coating,
Speaker 2: panoramic summary of tapping girl. We do love a panoramic
Speaker 2: sun ray. We love a cube, suits me. Why don't
Speaker 2: you say that anyway? So that's I think. How happy
Speaker 2: when you let go of the cube. I thought you
Speaker 2: were going to come rolling in in one of those Chrislers.
Speaker 2: I would. The point is, I think that for all
Speaker 2: the talk we do, for all the conversations we have
Speaker 2: about being millionaires, we're not setting ourselves up for success.
Speaker 2: The first thing to do when you win fifty mil
Speaker 2: isn't going to a fast food vendor. I'm giving out
Speaker 2: Kasha Bondo beachmackers. Yeah, okay, good to know.
Speaker 3: Because we are manifesting more money this, it's probably good
Speaker 3: to know what happens when we get it.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms.
Speaker 3: I talk a lot about my Karen like tendencies. I
Speaker 3: would say my natural form absolutely a Karen. Surprised my
Speaker 3: name wasn't Karen. My middle name Lucinda Karen Price.
Speaker 2: You kind of do have a Karen vibe about you,
Speaker 2: but I don't think that the average person interacting with
Speaker 2: you would even feel like you have any semblance of
Speaker 2: Karen in you, because you do, like have. I would
Speaker 2: say your disposition, your general vibe is agreeable, charming, polite,
Speaker 2: all the good things.
Speaker 3: They're always the ones hiding something.
Speaker 2: Because I'm the opposent. You're Karen presenting, Karen presenting. I'm
Speaker 2: not about that lie.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm very surprised when you do extreme acts
Speaker 3: of kindness, which shouldn't surprise me. You're very like generous
Speaker 3: with money literally stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Maryone's like she's a gremlin, goblin hater.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes I'm nice anyway, So I'm trying to
Speaker 3: reign in my Karen. You say, as you gain a
Speaker 3: bit more of a profile, you need to be careful
Speaker 3: with how you act in public.
Speaker 2: Only when you gain a profile, for the rest of
Speaker 2: you who don't have aspirations to be a public figure.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about your attitude irrelevant. I was on a
Speaker 2: plane and I was sitting in the middle seat, and
Speaker 2: as everybody who flies knows, if you're in the middle seat,
Speaker 2: you get both the armrests. We have had a discussion
Speaker 2: about this before. I firmly believe that if you're flying budget,
Speaker 2: you don't have any say on who gets armrests, when
Speaker 2: and wear. It's this gentle dance you play with your
Speaker 2: seat companions. That's very elitist. It's very elitist.
Speaker 3: It's not I had my Kurren moment this weekend. I
Speaker 3: was at a cafe with my mother, and my arm
Speaker 3: and cappuccino came out.
Speaker 2: Asked for extra chocolate, No extra chocolate. I don't know
Speaker 2: what an arm and cappuccino is. Cappuccino is like, usually
Speaker 2: come with chocolate. Yes, it comes with a light dusting
Speaker 2: of chocolate. I said, I would like an almond cappuccino
Speaker 2: with extra chocolate, which is very.
Speaker 3: To ask for as a twenty seven year old Karen,
Speaker 3: but I did it. Anyway, comes out no extra chocolate.
Speaker 2: That's fine. I can live with that.
Speaker 3: However, upon inspecting the rim, I noticed there is something black, curly.
Speaker 2: And of a pube variety.
Speaker 3: There was a pube dangling off my coffee as if hair.
Speaker 2: No, this was giving pube.
Speaker 3: I know, saxture sick okay, with the perfect amount of
Speaker 3: curl girth.
Speaker 2: Oh, I took it too far hair girl for girthy pube.
Speaker 3: And I did consider not being a karenathone, just like
Speaker 3: take it off. But my mother actually brought out her
Speaker 3: Karen and said.
Speaker 2: The original Karen. Two generations in Karen will come together,
Speaker 2: tag team. So I brought it over and got into context.
Speaker 2: You have said your mum Heather is a gentle kind woman,
Speaker 2: but you said those are the ones to watch out.
Speaker 2: She Karen's.
Speaker 3: She Karen's at the correct time, so FLEXI as a
Speaker 3: self confessed Karen. I'm basically saying that so that in
Speaker 3: the future, when I do something Karen esque, whether it's
Speaker 3: purposefully or by accident, no one can turn around and say, hey,
Speaker 3: that through me. She acts all nice online, but really
Speaker 3: she's a Karen. I'm putting it out in the universe.
Speaker 2: So it's a quickly double check. Do you think when
Speaker 2: people are perceiving you to be nice, kind, gentle bit
Speaker 2: of a hapless damsel. Do you think they're just reading
Speaker 2: you a bit wrong and then holding you to their
Speaker 2: perception of you? No, I am how I present.
Speaker 3: However, I'm concerned about when I'm concerned about being misconstrued
Speaker 3: and like misunderstood, and I believe people are always going
Speaker 3: to misunderstand you. So I'm quite I know what I want,
Speaker 3: and when I'm out in public, I'm walking with purpose.
Speaker 3: I'm asking for things that I'm entitled to. Whether in
Speaker 3: Titlanent's probably a whole nother conversation. But you know, I'm
Speaker 3: not like a wallflower. I'm not going to bend to things.
Speaker 2: So if we were to quiz your audience right now
Speaker 2: on Instagram and ask them, is it clear to them
Speaker 2: that you are and have always been a Karen? The
Speaker 2: majority would say.
Speaker 3: Yes, they can't be trusted. Whatever I say, they're going
Speaker 3: to the contrary. I can never get a clear answer.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows. Nobody knows if it's a joke. Everybody thinks
Speaker 2: it's a joke. Ah, You're like the The Boy who
Speaker 2: Cried Wolf, but the comedy version facts. Everyone thinks it's
Speaker 2: a bit when in fact you're being really serious.
Speaker 3: It's like when comedians I know put up something really earnest,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, are you taking the pits out of
Speaker 3: this thing?
Speaker 2: Your people to really vote? Like do you want people
Speaker 2: to recycle? Kind of weird, But I was actually googling
Speaker 2: what Karen means. We all know what I was doing
Speaker 2: that too, or really, that's really awesome. I like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I went on the Wikipedia to you in
Speaker 3: the Wikimediaay.
Speaker 2: I've got it right, We're in sync.
Speaker 3: It's got the haircut in the Wikipedia, it's got how
Speaker 3: to pronounce Karen phonetically. But what I thought was really
Speaker 3: interesting is the origins of Karen.
Speaker 2: This is a bit that stood out to me.
Speaker 3: In African American culture, there is a history of calling
Speaker 3: difficult white women or those who weaponize their position by
Speaker 3: a generic prerogative nameative.
Speaker 2: What pejorative? Pejorative? What does that mean? We're not prerogative
Speaker 2: thinking of derogatory.
Speaker 3: In the Antebellum era, which was an actual era eighteen
Speaker 3: fifteen to eighteen sixty one, miss ann was used. In
Speaker 3: the early nineteen nineties, Becky was used, and as of
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, the use of Karen caught on. Alternate names
Speaker 3: matching particular instance were used, such as barbecue, Becky, cornerstone, Caroline,
Speaker 3: and permit Patty. Karen is the stereotype to an older soccomum,
Speaker 3: which makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything else you wanted to add to that? Na,
Speaker 2: thank you for sharing. The thing about karening is I
Speaker 2: think I'm a lot more aware of optics than you are,
Speaker 2: because I'm always judged far more harshly, just naturally. But
Speaker 2: also I think it's really interesting because I don't Karen
Speaker 2: in the way that you Karen. In public spaces, I
Speaker 2: definitely have to rain in my entitlement because in my
Speaker 2: head it's off the charts and like it should be
Speaker 2: done all my time, blah blah blah, bah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And we all see my external struggle with that. I'm like,
Speaker 2: got about my tongue, but I don't want it.
Speaker 3: But I got it, but I don't want to do
Speaker 3: you because we always have this conversation. You say that
Speaker 3: I should be able to say what I think online,
Speaker 3: but you're saying that you don't.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not talking about online, I'm talking but I
Speaker 2: was saying that we carry in a different ways. See online,
Speaker 2: I feel quite comfortable to do what I want and
Speaker 2: say what I want, because I have actually built an
Speaker 2: ecosystem where that is where my internal understanding of the
Speaker 2: world takes precedent over the world. Right. But as soon
Speaker 2: as I get into shared spaces, I am mindful of
Speaker 2: not wanting to take up space in spite of people,
Speaker 2: even if I feel entitled to it, which is why
Speaker 2: I feel some kind of way about, for example, the
Speaker 2: middle seat thing, because that just reminds me of like
Speaker 2: stereotypically entitled people who would do that, and then I'd
Speaker 2: be on the receiving end of it, like some random
Speaker 2: old man in the middle seat being like those are
Speaker 2: my seats, Like, well, it's none of our seats. Like
Speaker 2: we've all paid to be on this flight. We can
Speaker 2: do a polite dance between each other and decide who
Speaker 2: gets to have those armorus, but it's not yours. Similarly,
Speaker 2: if I'm in a restaurant or whatever and I'm like
Speaker 2: something's gone wrong, I'm like, I'm not gonna Karen, but
Speaker 2: I'm not here doing volunteer work. If I paid for something,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna want to get it. I think the difference
Speaker 2: between being a Karen and being confrontational is that confrontational
Speaker 2: is just generally uncomfortable for people. But karening is making
Speaker 2: other people responsible for your individual comforts. Yes, and it's
Speaker 2: like the two. Sometimes there's a correlation, but often it's
Speaker 2: like that's not my business, Like if you want the
Speaker 2: middle seat, if you don't, if you feel like Uber
Speaker 2: shouldn't talk to you or they should, these are all
Speaker 2: like your internal expectations that have now like left your
Speaker 2: internal like ecosystem, and now you're allowing others or expecting
Speaker 2: others to get on board, which I think is nice
Speaker 2: if you're in like an environment with context and the
Speaker 2: base side is like i'll do something for me, you
Speaker 2: do something, do use something for you, le Blin. But
Speaker 2: generally I'm like, it's too much.
Speaker 3: Your example with the old guy in the middle seat,
Speaker 3: isn't it hard then to rain in your inner car?
Speaker 3: And when it's like you've experienced that so many times
Speaker 3: from that type of person, like it's very hard to
Speaker 3: not see them in a stereotypical way, especially if they're
Speaker 3: seeing you in a stereotypical way. For example, I'm sitting
Speaker 3: in the middle seat and there's two old guys next
Speaker 3: to me, business men. We're on Quantis, which no shade quantas,
Speaker 3: but it's very much that clientele.
Speaker 2: Yeah, corporate baddies.
Speaker 3: Corporate baddies, corporate daddy's nice kind of like granddaddy's. Anyway,
Speaker 3: they're both taking my arm rests like I.
Speaker 2: Know that the language, they're taking my eyes. I think
Speaker 2: that like in the eye of the Karen and this goes.
Speaker 2: This reminds me the fact that everybody is like while
Speaker 2: the Internet was getting upset at white men, like it
Speaker 2: was like white women that voted for Trump. This is
Speaker 2: the thing, Karens don't realize that when you're Karening, you
Speaker 2: are the bad guy. Karen's always feel like victims when
Speaker 2: they're doing bad guy things. Yes, I agree, that's me
Speaker 2: and that is the issue with Karening as a whole.
Speaker 2: It's like they're looking outwards and being like, no one
Speaker 2: could ever see me as somebody who is in the
Speaker 2: wrong here, because at least I'm not that guy. It's like, no,
Speaker 2: you are that guy, just like in a different haircut,
Speaker 2: but like same same people, both short, short in the
Speaker 2: back shot back inside. That's a great point, FLEXI We'll
Speaker 2: get reckoning because I feel like there's something to say
Speaker 2: about being a twenty seven year old Karen that we
Speaker 2: haven't gotten to the crux of because you're not alone.
Speaker 2: People feel really it felt really empowered when you said
Speaker 2: you were a Karen.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, yeah, I like when people are honest. It's
Speaker 3: hard to say that you're a Karen, especially in this context.
Speaker 2: You know this is the real discrimination. Thank you.
Speaker 3: He's waiting for somebody to say it. Flex, So glad
Speaker 3: you're standing up for my people. Until next time. Oh,
Speaker 3: every week, I'll try and bring you a little part
Speaker 3: of Karen that I'm trying to I'm trying to like
Speaker 3: dissemble it so we can.
Speaker 2: Write a proper character profile, one that's like not one
Speaker 2: that makes sense for now twenty twenty two. Love it.
Speaker 1: This is Flex and Frooms on kDa.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you something? Did you know that we
Speaker 2: can't drink sea water? Why? Oh? Can I guess? Yeah,
Speaker 2: because there's pooh in it. No, that's not it. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is common knowledge. But for
Speaker 2: all the talk I do with the apocalypse, I honestly
Speaker 2: thought going down to the beach and speaking up on
Speaker 2: water would have been a viable thing to do. It's not.
Speaker 2: We can't drink sea water because human kidneys can only
Speaker 2: make pea that is less salty than salt water. Therefore,
Speaker 2: to get rid of all the excess salt taken into
Speaker 2: you when you drink sea water, you have to urinate
Speaker 2: more water than you drink, which is not possible. So
Speaker 2: eventually you die of dehydration as you become more thirsty.
Speaker 2: Huh right, And finally I understand because you know, I
Speaker 2: love Vikings the TV series. I don't know. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: every time they got their going little boat expeditions to
Speaker 2: like pillage and do wars, I was like, why you
Speaker 2: always so thirsty? You're literally in the water for months.
Speaker 2: Turns out not drinkable.
Speaker 3: I wonder because they obviously purify water. Do we get
Speaker 3: water from the ocean ever to drink? That's yeah, springing water.
Speaker 3: But also I'm sure you can purify water. That's what
Speaker 3: they do in countries that.
Speaker 2: I think that's how you make salt. Do you extract
Speaker 2: the water from the salt.
Speaker 3: Well, then it's like a two in one, so okay, wait,
Speaker 3: when you eat salty food.
Speaker 2: I don't have any more answer. That's all I had.
Speaker 2: That is all The screenshot that I stole from the
Speaker 2: internet gave me how many sources to side.
Speaker 1: This is Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: About two weeks.
Speaker 3: Ago, a package arrived for us at Cada Sure did.
Speaker 3: It was two little packages with a book inside, and
Speaker 3: it came with a bath bomb, kind of like a
Speaker 3: cute little pr gifting. And I personally love it when
Speaker 3: a book is sent my way because it reminds me
Speaker 3: that I'm cerebral, that other people consider me to be
Speaker 3: smart and somebody that reads books. Yeah, and as someone
Speaker 3: who never grew up reading books, I really like this
Speaker 3: arc that I've created. Anyway, The book in question was
Speaker 3: a book called something. Did you end up reading it?
Speaker 2: Not yet? You know, I don't read paperbacks and apprecia
Speaker 2: they get sent I do a little Hey everybody read this,
Speaker 2: But if I'm going to read it, I download it
Speaker 2: on Kindle. Are you going to download this one? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you know much about it? Can I give you? Please? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I haven't finished it full like full even better? Yeah,
Speaker 3: even better. So I'm about like three fourths of the
Speaker 3: way in, so I'm like very much involved with the characters,
Speaker 3: et cetera. It is a book written by a woman
Speaker 3: called Alex Sarkis. She is from the West western Sydney
Speaker 3: and it's basically about a woman called Nicole Nijam and
Speaker 3: she works at her dad's car dealership.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm reading it. I'm reading the first is she
Speaker 2: also selling window tints.
Speaker 3: She's taking photos of the cars to put them up
Speaker 3: on carsiles.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 3: She hates it though, her dad just like sits in
Speaker 3: the office all day watching movies.
Speaker 2: Again, very safey to be the boss.
Speaker 3: It does, and she it's like going through relationship and
Speaker 3: her love of the area. And it was so nice
Speaker 3: because here on Cada there's a show called the Area.
Speaker 2: Clearly I didn't know what that was because I'm from Melbourne.
Speaker 2: We didn't know. I had no idea. So I'm just
Speaker 2: hearing the area. What's what area? It's the area, And
Speaker 2: I've learned all about it through this book.
Speaker 3: Well, I've learned like a kind of like from her eyes.
Speaker 3: I love reading about things from an author that is
Speaker 3: speaking about where they grew up. And she does it
Speaker 3: so well. And in the book she talks about like
Speaker 3: going all around Sydney, not just West like. She describes
Speaker 3: what people from Bondai are like very much seen. She
Speaker 3: says they're like younger versions of people from like the North.
Speaker 3: They're like the North Shore people. But more creative, which
Speaker 3: I guess I agree with that. Anyway, they go to
Speaker 3: like restaurants in Bondai. They go to all these different places,
Speaker 3: and I love it because she doesn't name check them,
Speaker 3: but she gives enough detail so you know exactly what
Speaker 3: she's talking about.
Speaker 2: No free press, exactly exactly. She's one of us. So
Speaker 2: what is the book about?
Speaker 3: The book is about she's been broken up with and
Speaker 3: she's like grappling with what it's like to be a
Speaker 3: twenty six year old. I'm pretty sure she's Lebanese, Lebanese
Speaker 3: woman in this community where like everyone that age is
Speaker 3: having weddings and the lavish weddings. Some people have said
Speaker 3: the book similar to Looking for Ala Brandy, which I
Speaker 3: definitely got that, and I absolutely loved it because in
Speaker 3: it there's lots of dialogue and text between her and
Speaker 3: these different guys, and they speak the way that we speak.
Speaker 3: And I think it's really unusual to find a book
Speaker 3: of that quality and that colorba that also speaks in
Speaker 3: a way that we speak. Like this is going to
Speaker 3: be a runaway hit. So what would you rate it?
Speaker 3: I would like for what I what kind of person
Speaker 3: would you recommend it to?
Speaker 2: It's an easy read.
Speaker 3: I think it would be appreciated by avid readers as
Speaker 3: well as like beachside readers.
Speaker 2: Is that a word like holiday reads?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get you. It's pretty easy read. It's a
Speaker 3: romance but it's not wet. But it's also like sentimental
Speaker 3: not wet. You know, things are wet.
Speaker 2: You're doing it again? What your synaesthesia thing? Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: that's that's like a proper expression, like things are wet.
Speaker 2: Oh it's a bit wet. Have you heard that? I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like when it's too suppy, like, oh, so
Speaker 3: so suppy.
Speaker 2: That's incredible. It's a good one. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would recommend it to people who are looking for
Speaker 3: a bit of like romance. I think it's also a
Speaker 3: really good book for just Australia and just seeing someone
Speaker 3: like talk about the area in a way that's so
Speaker 3: clearly loves it and so also cognizant of how everybody
Speaker 3: else perceives it. She talks about like her cousins and
Speaker 3: these like guys that are drug dealers and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: but in a way that's not stereotypical.
Speaker 2: I love that. Ten out of ten you've got to
Speaker 2: go read. Okay, now you lost me. Now you've lost
Speaker 2: me because even my favorite books, there was a moment
Speaker 2: in time where I used to read a book and
Speaker 2: then review it on Instagram stories, and even my most
Speaker 2: favorite books I made sure when I was writing reviews
Speaker 2: they had to have cons because I don't trust people
Speaker 2: who throw out ten ten out of tens and no cons.
Speaker 2: What is this you put me off?
Speaker 3: I don't read enough books to be able to rate them, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't understand you can definitely rate them. I just
Speaker 3: say I would rate it. You should read it, you
Speaker 3: should buy it. It's a young Australian author and she's
Speaker 3: following the footsteps of another woman that was published by
Speaker 3: the same publisher called Diana Reid, who did a book
Speaker 3: called Love and Virtue. I'd put them in the same book.
Speaker 2: I remember that. Well. Thank you for those recommendations. I
Speaker 2: really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Firms on CADA.
Speaker 2: I want to tell you about this thing I've been doing,
Speaker 2: which involves not listening to anything the first hour of
Speaker 2: the day, because it ties into why this happened. Basically,
Speaker 2: I was driving to Cada and I was looking at
Speaker 2: this white, average soccer mumish car. I'm sure you'd know
Speaker 2: the name of it. I don't know car names, but
Speaker 2: she's a Sorrento perhaps, you know. In the lane next
Speaker 2: to me, Toyota arras maybe bigger than an arras, looks
Speaker 2: like a Hende cap tiva holding cap tiva, that kind
Speaker 2: of vibe, I digress, don't maybe stop it. So myself
Speaker 2: and this car we were driving at the exact same speed,
Speaker 2: which meant that we were, you know, neck and neck
Speaker 2: for too long, to the point where I was like,
Speaker 2: do you want to tell me something? Because why are
Speaker 2: you in my business? Like that? Then I had an
Speaker 2: intrusive thought, what if there was someone in the car
Speaker 2: trying to get my attention? What if they were trying
Speaker 2: to drive nearby so I would look over and see
Speaker 2: something that somebody wanted me to see. So then I
Speaker 2: had this vision, this visual that I would turn over
Speaker 2: and that there'd be someone holding an a four piece
Speaker 2: of paper to the window saying help me, and what
Speaker 2: would I do? And that definitely that thought took me
Speaker 2: to I think there was like a fifteen minute drive
Speaker 2: worth of thoughts about this very specific scenario that isn't impossible,
Speaker 2: But I just don't know why it would be happening.
Speaker 2: So I say that again. If you were driving next
Speaker 2: to a car you turn to look at their back
Speaker 2: window and you saw somebody holding up a white a
Speaker 2: four piece of paper that said help me, what would
Speaker 2: you do? What would be your initial reaction? I need
Speaker 2: to know the age of this person. I can't see them,
Speaker 2: the windows are tinted. I just kind of see the sign,
Speaker 2: and I know that someone's holding it because their arms
Speaker 2: are moving around, and then they took it away really quickly.
Speaker 2: I gotta follow the car. Really, yeah, I'm following the car.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call my dad and say, hey, I just
Speaker 3: saw this thing. What do you think? And then hiss
Speaker 3: what it's called loose detective. He's like spider sense raigey vibes.
Speaker 3: Oh would say, nah, you go follow them? Oh, very serious,
Speaker 3: and then he'd be coaching me and saying, now you
Speaker 3: got to follow them, this is very serious. I'd follow
Speaker 3: them in a snoopy way, just hanging behind them, and
Speaker 3: then see where they park and then call the police.
Speaker 2: How far would you follow them? Because in this instance
Speaker 2: where I saw this car, not that this was a
Speaker 2: real scenario. The car that I used to beef up
Speaker 2: my imagination, my fantasy. We were on a motorway going
Speaker 2: one hundred ks. We weren't getting off anytime soon. Just
Speaker 2: follow on, Wow, what would you do? It took me
Speaker 2: a minute, And I definitely think that there's a reoccurring
Speaker 2: theme in situations like this, Like, for example, when I
Speaker 2: have nightmares and I don't know what to do, I
Speaker 2: always phone a friend, which is very odd for me
Speaker 2: because I was for the longest time felt like a
Speaker 2: lone wolf, like I'll just figure out by myself. I'll
Speaker 2: do it by myself. I don't need any help now.
Speaker 2: I'm always leaning on people. So I would definitely call
Speaker 2: Sully and I'd be like, hey, can you just take
Speaker 2: this number plate down. I'm explained to her what's happening,
Speaker 2: and then say I'm either gonna make a little status
Speaker 2: about it and let other people figure out what's the
Speaker 2: appropriate thing to do, and based on what they say
Speaker 2: should be done, I'll do because I'm not a very
Speaker 2: I'm not the kind of person who's gonna call the
Speaker 2: police for anything at the first drop of what could
Speaker 2: be something that's not very me. And I definitely think
Speaker 2: there's value in citizens vigilanteism, where as a community we
Speaker 2: figure out what is the appropriate thing to do, because
Speaker 2: I don't want to just like waste resources on some
Speaker 2: little kid playing games in the backseat and incriminating their parents.
Speaker 2: But I also feel like I'm not following because if
Speaker 2: you're in danger, I'm in danger. Okay, we both can't
Speaker 2: be in danger. It's above instincts.
Speaker 3: People need to know you call your local police station.
Speaker 3: So if you see something a little bit dodgy, don't
Speaker 3: call Triple zero. Have a little Google find your local
Speaker 3: police station. Call that number. They always pick up.
Speaker 2: A Karen would know that. Yep, literally, this is Karen
Speaker 2: one O one. I never heard of this.
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