Speaker 1: On today's show, Mollie mae Haig steps down as creative
Speaker 1: director of.
Speaker 2: Pretty Little Thing, fast fashion brand.
Speaker 1: Sheen hosts influencers on a paid trip to its factory,
Speaker 1: and Madison Wooly reveals she's moving back in with her parents.
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Sophie Torbert and Amy. On the weekend, you welcomed the
Speaker 1: little bundle of Joy into your household? Yes, in the
Speaker 1: bunny variety. So I've rescued a gorgeous little bunny from
Speaker 1: the Animal Welfare League, and there are so many animals
Speaker 1: in need of homes, Especially since COVID, A lot of
Speaker 1: people have been dumping their animals, which is really sad. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it also comes as the cost of living
Speaker 1: crisises here and people are finding that they're either not
Speaker 1: able to hold onto their houses and are having to
Speaker 1: move into rentals which don't allow pets. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: it's really sad, but we have brought him home and
Speaker 1: we're currently looking for a name. I put something up
Speaker 1: on my Instagram about it and people sending through the
Speaker 1: best suggestions. One was Pancakes, which is apparently on the
Speaker 1: OC there was a bunny, a white bunny called Pancake,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I feel like I have
Speaker 1: heard pancakes a lot thrown around for rabbits. I think
Speaker 1: you should call him Benjamin Bunny. Well, he's got a
Speaker 1: real attitude to him. He kind of like you know
Speaker 1: the footy players when they wear the crisp white boots.
Speaker 1: That's what he looks like hopping around in the backyard.
Speaker 1: He needs kind of like so far, I was saying,
Speaker 1: like Jack's, Yeah, it could be my voters for Jack's.
Speaker 1: I think that would be a really cute name. I
Speaker 1: also think it could have a Love Island name because
Speaker 1: your female bunny is called Maura. So I thought Curtis
Speaker 1: because that's not What about Tommy Fury because he's got
Speaker 1: blue eyes. Yes, I was actually thinking he looked a
Speaker 1: bit like a Tommy. Also, the other contender is Dale
Speaker 1: and I love down to Abbey, so I thinking of
Speaker 1: calling him Brant's and I want to say he told
Speaker 1: merdon no, I think Tommy and Mora because it's kind
Speaker 1: of ironic because Mora was going after Tommy on Love Island. Well,
Speaker 1: he has been chasing her non stop and he's been
Speaker 1: humping her. Apparently it's like a dominant thing because he's
Speaker 1: been to sex.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of change coming up in the next yeah,
Speaker 3: three months.
Speaker 1: Madison Woolly has revealed she's moving back in with her
Speaker 1: parents as she searches for an apartment to buy. The
Speaker 1: twenty four year old moved to Sydney five years ago
Speaker 1: from a hometown of Nuser, but is now returning to
Speaker 1: Queensland after her landlord put her rental up for sale.
Speaker 1: Now it is in great timing for Madison because as
Speaker 1: most influencers do come winter, she is going to Europe
Speaker 1: for a month and basically as soon as she's back
Speaker 1: she has to get.
Speaker 2: Out of the apartment. She's only got a week to
Speaker 2: get out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The announcement has raised a few eyebrows because it
Speaker 1: does coincide with Madison also holding a warehouse sale for
Speaker 1: her brand twenty third in Madisons and the warehouse sale
Speaker 1: was of course to get rid of old stock, but
Speaker 1: there was a lot of stock. I do wonder how
Speaker 1: successful this sale was because normally influencers will film how
Speaker 1: many people are there and that there's no stock left. However,
Speaker 1: we saw nothing from it. We see when Sammy Robinson
Speaker 1: has a warehouse sale for one mile that there's literally
Speaker 1: women queuing for hours down the street, but we definitely
Speaker 1: didn't see this sort of fanfare, and I'm sure if
Speaker 1: it did happen, it.
Speaker 2: Would have been on TikTok.
Speaker 1: It is the end of the financial year, though, so
Speaker 1: it does make sense that she would hold a warehouse sale. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I was really shocked that Madison said that
Speaker 1: she's basically selling everything in her apartment, considering it's not
Speaker 1: like she's, you know, your average dough who's just brought
Speaker 1: everything off Facebook marketplace. A lot of these pieces of furniture,
Speaker 1: as we've reported in previous episodes, are very expensive and
Speaker 1: custom Like she thinks she had her bed made and
Speaker 1: a couch made specifically for this apartment that she was renting.
Speaker 2: Well, can you imagine having to.
Speaker 1: Get that from Sydney to Queensland to'd be very difficult. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just insanity. Let's throw to what she said about it.
Speaker 3: I'm actually going to be selling basically everything, though I
Speaker 3: own it sounds like I'm having like a mid twenties Christis,
Speaker 3: which potentially I am this current place that I'm in
Speaker 3: like I loved it for so long, but I just
Speaker 3: feel like I've grown up a lot since, like designing
Speaker 3: and decorating, Like this.
Speaker 2: Apartment doesn't really feel like me.
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to be in Sydney for however long.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's realized that buying everything in white wasn't a
Speaker 1: great idea. The whole thing is we do have to
Speaker 1: remember she is only twenty five. I don't get why
Speaker 1: she doesn't just move in with Jonathan for a few
Speaker 1: months while she's trying to find a comma days ago,
Speaker 1: because he's going to be still being Sydney. Are they
Speaker 1: going to do long distance? I mean, Jonathan is originally
Speaker 1: from Brisbane. I wonder if he's moving back as well,
Speaker 1: because it's probably just too expensive.
Speaker 2: Living on the East Most.
Speaker 1: Then again, her parents do live in a freaking mansion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but even so, it would be so hard living out
Speaker 1: of home for five years and then going back to.
Speaker 2: Live with your parents.
Speaker 1: I bet her parents are doing a europe troop as well,
Speaker 1: and she's probably home alone. Maybe she's looking after their
Speaker 1: house for them.
Speaker 2: I wonder what this is.
Speaker 1: Going to mean for a lot of her influencer jobs though,
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of influencers moved to Sydney
Speaker 1: or Melbourne because that's where most of the parties and events.
Speaker 2: So that's not true.
Speaker 1: A lot of them are on the Gold Coast, so
Speaker 1: she's not going to be far from it at all.
Speaker 1: I more questioned what's going on with her business twenty
Speaker 1: third in Madison, because she has an office since Sydney,
Speaker 1: she's got an employee's really trying to get rid of stock.
Speaker 1: Is she going to continue the business from NUSA? And
Speaker 1: also she's got a podcast she records with her best
Speaker 1: friend in her in house studio. They've had so many
Speaker 1: technical difficulties whenever they've tried to.
Speaker 2: Record away from each other. What's going to happen to that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do feel for Caitlin.
Speaker 1: It would be really tough if you're in business with
Speaker 1: someone and then they've been either decided to or forced
Speaker 1: to move back home.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 1: She's going to be in NUSA for a while as well,
Speaker 1: because she said well, hopefully I'll be back in Sydney
Speaker 1: before the end of the year.
Speaker 2: That's six months.
Speaker 1: It is actually quite a smart financial decision though, especially
Speaker 1: if she's trying to buy a house in this current climate,
Speaker 1: how much would she say, actually moving back in with
Speaker 1: her parents, putting lives at risk on the Tellermarine Freeway
Speaker 1: at almost tripled the speed limit. Entrepreneur Mitch Third, who
Speaker 1: is best known for being the ex boyfriend of Gold
Speaker 1: Coast influencer Tylia Scaines, is under fire again, this time
Speaker 1: for a very disturbing video that he uploaded to Instagram. Now,
Speaker 1: the former drink bottle entrepreneur turned energy drink CEO, shared
Speaker 1: a video to his forty four thousand followers showing a
Speaker 1: Mercedes swerving through traffic and clogging two hundred and nineteen
Speaker 1: kilometers an hour on the Tullamarine Freeway near an Essendon DFO.
Speaker 2: Now, the footage was.
Speaker 1: Captured inside the luxury car, and he captured the video
Speaker 1: we late dot dot dot slept in and tagged his
Speaker 1: friend and in the video you can audibly hear the
Speaker 1: passenger laughing in the background. This vision was disgusting, Like,
Speaker 1: it's actually scary that somebody thought it was okay to
Speaker 1: speed that quickly along the highway, the weaving through the cars,
Speaker 1: they'n lucky they didn't kill anybody. And then to post
Speaker 1: it and then have you laughing in the background. The
Speaker 1: backlash was very swift, with followers calling Mitch out and
Speaker 1: reporting him to crime stoppers. One follower wrote, this is
Speaker 1: seriously disgusting, while another said it's not even funny. He
Speaker 1: could have killed someone. The media were also very quick
Speaker 1: to jump on this story. Seven News did a story
Speaker 1: on it, as well as The Herald's son. And I'm
Speaker 1: really not surprised because from a television perspective, it was
Speaker 1: excellent pictures. They love this sort of stuff, and they
Speaker 1: named Mitch third as well as the driver.
Speaker 2: But Mitch has come out and he's denied it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He claims the footage was not his video and
Speaker 1: that it was filmed two years ago. He wrote, guys,
Speaker 1: yesterday's video was not my video. I was not driving, filming,
Speaker 1: or even in that car. I don't condone speeding and
Speaker 1: shouldn't have reposted the video thinking it was acceptable.
Speaker 2: Why did he write we are running late?
Speaker 1: Well, I think he is claiming that this is a
Speaker 1: memory that's popped up from two years ago, because he
Speaker 1: shared the date of the video and it was the
Speaker 1: same date, but two years prior. It was probably it
Speaker 1: probably was a couple of years ago, but he clearly
Speaker 1: filmed it exactly him laughing in the back sound so
Speaker 1: much like his life, doesn't it. Well. When the video
Speaker 1: was posted, he was on a work trip in Melbourne
Speaker 1: because he normally lives on the Gold Coast, so I
Speaker 1: can see why people assumed it was a live video.
Speaker 1: This has turned into a police matter, so Victorian police
Speaker 1: are reviewing the vision and it does follow allegations of
Speaker 1: a very bitter dispute between Talia and Mitch Third and
Speaker 1: that is over their e commerce company, which is called
Speaker 1: Third Fixed Collection. And Talia has also accused Mitch of
Speaker 1: threats of violence, which he has denied. So things aren't
Speaker 1: looking great for Mitch at the moment in the media.
Speaker 1: Probably not the best lead up to his energy drink
Speaker 1: company launch. I don't think it will matter though, because
Speaker 1: I think the people that are buying stuff from Mitch,
Speaker 1: they'd probably think it's hilarious for him to post videos
Speaker 1: of someone speeding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his target market might be fuck wits.
Speaker 1: Well. He did say earlier in the year that he
Speaker 1: wanted to be canceled, wasn't it. These are the best
Speaker 1: products I found on she in this week, but don't
Speaker 1: buy them.
Speaker 2: It's a potato cuchin. What's not to.
Speaker 1: Love if you guys can believe it, controversial fast fashion
Speaker 1: brand Sheen has hosted influences on a paid trip to
Speaker 1: Guangzhou in China to tour one of its factories. So
Speaker 1: six influencers were brought to what she calls its innovation
Speaker 1: factory to experience for themselves what goes on behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: and of course report back to their followers. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine how highly controlled this tour.
Speaker 2: Would have been.
Speaker 1: It reminds me when all the prestigious schools do school
Speaker 1: tours and apparently the word is that they just put
Speaker 1: all of the troubled students into a room and that's
Speaker 1: hied them away. Oh, there would have been so much
Speaker 1: strategy around which factory workers, to include which rooms they're
Speaker 1: allowed to go into. It also should be noted that
Speaker 1: she have around six thousand different factories.
Speaker 2: So this is the house.
Speaker 1: So this innovation factory has clearly been hand picked to
Speaker 1: be the top factory that influencers in the media can
Speaker 1: go to. What I'm more shocked about is that they
Speaker 1: managed to get six influencers to go on this trip.
Speaker 1: If any of them have managers, you would have assumed
Speaker 1: they would have been told not to touch this trip
Speaker 1: with a ten foot poll. If I was one of
Speaker 1: the influencers, I would have been scared that this would
Speaker 1: somehow turn into one of those reality shows where they
Speaker 1: make them work as the worker or you know, because
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be the best show?
Speaker 1: Well, things haven't gone down well for influencer Danny Carbonari.
Speaker 1: She is facing criticis after attending this tour because she
Speaker 1: seemed to offer a very glowing review of the factory tour.
Speaker 1: And this is despite the fact that the company has
Speaker 1: a very long documented history of labor abuse. Now, to
Speaker 1: put this into perspective, how much weight Danny's comments have
Speaker 1: She has nearly half a million followers on Instagram and
Speaker 1: on her Instagram she did chronicle this influencer trip, sharing
Speaker 1: a video of the factory tour and writing it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to put this into words how this trip
Speaker 1: has impacted me. I was really excited and impressed to
Speaker 1: see the working conditions. Now this caption was paired with
Speaker 1: vision of a clean, brightly lit factory, she continued, saying,
Speaker 1: I think my biggest takeaway from this trip is to
Speaker 1: be an independent thinker, get the facts and see it
Speaker 1: with your own eyes, She finished saying, there's a narrative
Speaker 1: fed to the US, and I'm one that always likes
Speaker 1: to be open minded and seek the truth. So I'm
Speaker 1: grateful for that about myself, and I hope the same
Speaker 1: for you. Now. Danny wasn't the only one to share
Speaker 1: about this trip. The other five influencers shared a very
Speaker 1: similar sentiment online and also used very similar language referring
Speaker 1: to misinformation. So influencer DestinE sudo throte, I expected this
Speaker 1: facility to be so filled with people just slaving away.
Speaker 2: I don't really got a use of the word slavery,
Speaker 2: but I.
Speaker 1: Was actually pleasantly surprised now as I touched on. This
Speaker 1: is one of six thousand factories that Sheen has, so
Speaker 1: it was clearly hand picked for influences well to refresh
Speaker 1: everyone's memories. A twenty twenty one investigation by Swiss watchdog
Speaker 1: group Public Eye found that employees often worked in unsafe conditions.
Speaker 1: Several factory workers also told researchers that they worked up
Speaker 1: to seventy five hours a week and got only one
Speaker 1: day off each month. It also stated that none of
Speaker 1: them had been given an employment contract, which is a
Speaker 1: violation of labor laws in China. Also, you guys will
Speaker 1: remember there was that Channel four documentary in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two called Inside the Sheine Machine that was the worst
Speaker 1: publicity Sheine could have ever. God, I don't understand, Like,
Speaker 1: can't people see how transparent it is. They've had this
Speaker 1: documentary and their PR team's gone, oh.
Speaker 2: What can we do.
Speaker 1: We'll get these idiot influences in to brainwash everyone.
Speaker 2: Oh no, these conditions are great. Thank god people are
Speaker 2: seeing through it.
Speaker 1: Well, for those who haven't seen the documentary yet, they
Speaker 1: found that workers were only being paid two cents per
Speaker 1: item that they made. And the host of the documentary,
Speaker 1: Aman Amani, she actually hit out in Danny's comments section,
Speaker 1: so she wrote, I hosted the Channel four documentary that
Speaker 1: did the undercover investigation into factories that provide clothes to Sheen.
Speaker 1: There is video evidence of laws being broken.
Speaker 2: They aren't rumors.
Speaker 1: It is very sad that you have decided to let
Speaker 1: yourself be used to defend these practices. Yeah, wouldn't it
Speaker 1: have been better if they actually sent journalists in, like
Speaker 1: send Stacy Duley and send a man in like it's
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous as a reason why they don't want them, Well,
Speaker 1: I think that Danny thought that she was a journalist,
Speaker 1: because she also copped shit for basically doing an interview
Speaker 1: with an employee who she said answered all of her
Speaker 1: questions authentically and honestly.
Speaker 2: They've begun to their back to say it's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So one follower said, you're not an investigative journalists,
Speaker 1: You're a puppet for a company that is actively destroying
Speaker 1: our planet and exploiting vulnerable workers. Now, the backlash has
Speaker 1: been so widespread to Danny's videos that they have gone
Speaker 1: viral on TikTok and also Twitter because people are using
Speaker 1: them to try and correct the public record about this
Speaker 1: disgusting company.
Speaker 2: How much she reckoned.
Speaker 1: She actually paid these influences to attend because it's such
Speaker 1: a blow to their reputation.
Speaker 2: It would have to.
Speaker 1: Be a ton of money for anyone to pair their
Speaker 1: brand machines, and it is quite clear that Sheen is
Speaker 1: trying to rope in young influencers to help clean up
Speaker 1: its image and this factory to it. It just came
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks following the Ribka Twins from Australia
Speaker 1: launching a collection with She's quite clear that they are
Speaker 1: making a big play for the gen Z market, and
Speaker 1: it's just so transparent. They're trying to pull the wool
Speaker 1: over consumers' eyes and make people think that they've got
Speaker 1: it all wrong.
Speaker 2: Interesting that the Riubka twins weren't in attendance. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: probably were washing their hair or something.
Speaker 1: Maybe, you know, the collection hasn't gone down so well
Speaker 1: with followers, or they might have pretended that they've already
Speaker 1: been there before, because it would be a bit weird
Speaker 1: being like, oh, we've launched a collection, now we're checking
Speaker 1: out what it's like. Even the Ribka Twins were saying
Speaker 1: in that interview that, oh, Sheen is cleaning up its act,
Speaker 1: you know, emissions are getting better.
Speaker 2: They were spilling the same bullshit.
Speaker 1: And the thing that is worrying is at the moment,
Speaker 1: with the cost of living crisis, people don't have money
Speaker 1: to buy a sustainable clothes. So I'm worried that people
Speaker 1: will see this fake messaging that's been put out and think, oh, okay.
Speaker 2: Maybe I will buy that.
Speaker 1: I don't think people are that stupid. I mean, we
Speaker 1: saw the backlash in the comments. No one is buying this.
Speaker 1: Instead of spending all the money on influences, why don't
Speaker 1: they actually spend it on appropriately paying their workers, or
Speaker 1: because it's too much money. Yeah, improve the conditions. It's
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. Hey, daddy, I want to non pulumpa.
Speaker 2: I want you to get men on pu lumper.
Speaker 1: Right away, all right, Roker, all right, I'll get you
Speaker 1: one before that. I want to now. Roxy Desenko has
Speaker 1: shared her daughter Pixie's very lavish birthday wish list ahead
Speaker 1: of her twelfth birthday, which is in August now. The
Speaker 1: list is three pages long, with one page dedicated to
Speaker 1: close and the other two for shoes. It's estimated that
Speaker 1: this wish list adds up to ten thousand dollars, but
Speaker 1: to be fair, some of the items were in the
Speaker 1: hundreds rather than the thousands. So well, it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that you get every single item on your wish list.
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't be surprised though if they do.
Speaker 1: I do love how Roxy shared it to her Instagram
Speaker 1: story with the caption Pixie Curtis was quiet. It's clear
Speaker 1: why she then added the face palm emoji. It's nice
Speaker 1: how Pixie's giving her parents six or seven weeks so
Speaker 1: to save up because at birthday, as you said's not
Speaker 1: to August. I love how detailed the descriptions of each
Speaker 1: item were.
Speaker 2: They were very specific.
Speaker 1: She didn't want her parents to mess up, particularly when
Speaker 1: it comes to close. I mean, it's so funny because
Speaker 1: over the weekend I actually followed Pixie Curtis.
Speaker 2: I was one of those people who sort of.
Speaker 1: Maybe checked in in her life, but now I'm actually
Speaker 1: following her because she's in Europe at the moment. Has
Speaker 1: the whole family.
Speaker 2: Moved or what?
Speaker 1: Because she put up a post saying it's my last
Speaker 1: day of school.
Speaker 2: They moved Singapore. Yeah, they moved to Singapore.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not across Yeah, because we spoke about a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago how their family homes sold for
Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars and everyone was like, oh, they're getting
Speaker 1: a divorce. But Oliver Roxy's partner is working in Singapore,
Speaker 1: so they've made the move over there. I do love
Speaker 1: that Pixie divided her list into expensive gifts as well
Speaker 1: as cheap slash mid range gifts, just to.
Speaker 2: Help them out.
Speaker 1: Well. In terms of the expensive gifts, they were designer,
Speaker 1: so there was a Oney three hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 1: Saint Laurent hoodie and a five hundred and eighty dollar
Speaker 1: Alexander McQueen T shirt. She also added seventeen pairs of shoes.
Speaker 2: To the list.
Speaker 1: Look, she's not going to really need a jumper. If
Speaker 1: she's living in Singapore, it's going to be bloody hot
Speaker 1: and human there. I mean, this list actually wasn't as
Speaker 1: bad as her Christmas list last year because in that
Speaker 1: list she had a nine thousand dollar designer bag listed.
Speaker 2: Proply got it as well.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see what Pixie does to celebrate
Speaker 1: her twelfth birthday party because last year we were talking
Speaker 1: about it, everyone was talking about it, the Neon disco
Speaker 1: themed birthday party, which was rumored to cost forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Now, this birthday party, to.
Speaker 1: Refresh people's memory, included a mocktail bar, live DJ, a
Speaker 1: dance floor, three sixty photo booth, and a fire breathing
Speaker 1: performance artist. She'll probably end up flying all of her
Speaker 1: friends to Singapore for a huge birthday party.
Speaker 2: Is it too late to befriend her?
Speaker 4: There is no drama, There is absolutely no tea.
Speaker 2: There's nothing that's gone on.
Speaker 1: Molly May is stepping down from her role as creative
Speaker 1: director of Pretty Little Thing less than two years after
Speaker 1: being controversially appointed, the influencer has decided to focus on
Speaker 1: being a mum, and in doing so, is reportedly stepping
Speaker 1: away from a ten million pounds a year salary. She
Speaker 1: made the shock announcement at the nineteen minute mark of
Speaker 1: a YouTube video where she answered fan questions in her car.
Speaker 1: She said a more formal announcement on Instagram would follow,
Speaker 1: but is yet to post one. Were you guys surprised?
Speaker 1: I wasn't in highly surprised by this news. I definitely
Speaker 1: think that this role had an expiration date to it.
Speaker 1: There was so much controversy when it was announced that
Speaker 1: she was going to be the creative director, and also
Speaker 1: a lot of questions as to what the role actually included,
Speaker 1: and I think that it was sort of a bit
Speaker 1: of a trial. So, particularly now that she is on
Speaker 1: maternity leave, I think that they probably thought, well, we're
Speaker 1: paying her a fuck ton of money. I think that
Speaker 1: she is better utilized in a marketing role as the
Speaker 1: face of the brand as opposed to someone who is.
Speaker 2: A creative director of it.
Speaker 1: And Pretty Little Thing copped a lot of criticism when
Speaker 1: they did announce Molly as creative director, So if they
Speaker 1: were wanting to move her along. It's pretty clever timing
Speaker 1: the fact that she is on maternity leave, and it
Speaker 1: kind of does organically look like maybe this was Molly's decision. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sort of makes sense that she's stepping back a
Speaker 1: little bit and maybe working on her own personal brand
Speaker 1: as well. Well. She was quick to assure fans that
Speaker 1: there was no bad blood between her and PLT. She
Speaker 1: also referred to PLT as literally family and said she's
Speaker 1: going to continue as a brand ambassador. And she didn't
Speaker 1: reveal that it was her decision to step down from
Speaker 1: the role, but later in the video she did say this.
Speaker 4: Myself and PRT we've decided, like collectively that the creative
Speaker 4: director role as much as it was incredible, and I've
Speaker 4: literally loved being the creative director of PRT more than anything.
Speaker 4: It was such an amazing chapter for me. It's just
Speaker 4: like naturally come to an end. Like I'm a mum now.
Speaker 4: I never really gave myself a maternity leave. I kind
Speaker 4: of got straight back into work instantly because my work
Speaker 4: is my phone, and I don't know, like showing my
Speaker 4: life is my work, and I just felt like, yeah,
Speaker 4: there we was just certain areas of my life where
Speaker 4: I had to sort of reevaluate. The last thing I'd
Speaker 4: want to do would be to be in a role
Speaker 4: that I can't fulfill right now at this moment in
Speaker 4: my life.
Speaker 1: I am very curious to know whether this role is
Speaker 1: going to be filled by someone else, because if it isn't,
Speaker 1: it is quite apparent that this role was really smoke
Speaker 1: and mirrors.
Speaker 2: It was a PR stunt.
Speaker 1: It was a PR stunt to get it to look
Speaker 1: like Molly May isn't just your average influencer that's the
Speaker 1: face of a brand. She is invested in this bread
Speaker 1: and she is selecting the outfit, she's.
Speaker 2: Doing the marketing, she's doing everything.
Speaker 1: She's sitting in that office when we all know that
Speaker 1: that wasn't the reality of the situation. And it is
Speaker 1: interesting that it has been about two years since those
Speaker 1: infamous comments that Molly made about everyone having the same
Speaker 1: twenty four hours in a day, because she faced heavy
Speaker 1: criticism for not recognizing her own privilege. So I wonder
Speaker 1: if they were like, fuck, we better weigh at least
Speaker 1: two years for her to have had this role so
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like she couldn't hack it. I don't
Speaker 1: think that those comments have anything to do with it.
Speaker 1: I think that they would have been happy that it
Speaker 1: created more publicity for their brand.
Speaker 2: Probably.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think about this rumored ten million
Speaker 1: dollar salary, because I recall at the time newsbroke of
Speaker 1: her becoming the creative director, people were saying it was
Speaker 1: more like two million pounds. I think it would have
Speaker 1: to be a lot for her to make a bold
Speaker 1: announcement at the time that she was no longer an
Speaker 1: influencer anymore. She was saying, you know, this momentous moment
Speaker 1: showed that she's much more than an influencer, So it
Speaker 1: would have had to be a hefty paycheck. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: ten million pounds across a couple of years, so maybe
Speaker 1: it's the two year deal. Do you think, though, that
Speaker 1: she could have honestly just gone, I don't have time
Speaker 1: to do this anymore. I'd rather spend time at home
Speaker 1: with my family. Well, look, I feel like that is
Speaker 1: legitimately a part of this. But the timing is pretty
Speaker 1: interesting because just two months ago, pretty little things long
Speaker 1: standing co founder Umar Khmani step down as CEO, and
Speaker 1: him stepping down adds an extra layer of intrigue over
Speaker 1: this decision because It's like, was he the one backing Molly?
Speaker 1: And now that he's gone, you know, someone's come in
Speaker 1: and looked at the books and being like, why are
Speaker 1: you paying this person all this money? She doesn't even
Speaker 1: come into the office from memory. Wasn't he really a
Speaker 1: huge part of getting her over? He was, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know when she was on Love Island. He's like, we
Speaker 1: need that girl. She is the future. I mean. The
Speaker 1: thing is he still is connected to the brand because
Speaker 1: his father's company, Boohoo Group, did take over PLT. But again,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of decisions that are being
Speaker 1: reviewed now to see what is the best path moving forward. Yeah,
Speaker 1: particularly considering this cost of living crisis that we're in
Speaker 1: at the moment, a lot of brands, even large brands
Speaker 1: like PLT, are having to look at the books, reflect
Speaker 1: on how they're spending their money and whether it's the
Speaker 1: best way going forward. That's such a good point because
Speaker 1: sales have dropped during the pandemic. Everyone was in a
Speaker 1: buying frenzy because of all the government stimulus, so it's
Speaker 1: actually a great point. They're probably not making as much
Speaker 1: money to be able to afford for these kind of
Speaker 1: pr stunts. I think they're a sector that's not really
Speaker 1: struggling as much as others, considering their sells such cheap
Speaker 1: clothing and a lot of people that were buying expensive
Speaker 1: stuff maybe looking for fast fashion options now, but not
Speaker 1: to the same volume that they would have during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: Perhaps not. I mean, we are speculating here, but I
Speaker 1: do think it has a lot to do with how
Speaker 1: much Molly May has struggled with motherhood. She's made no
Speaker 1: secrets about it. She has been documenting the highs and
Speaker 1: lows of it, and she said that she's made this
Speaker 1: realization that she's never going to get this time back
Speaker 1: with Bambi. I did love how open she was, because
Speaker 1: she's like, people have been asking me when am I
Speaker 1: going to have my next lot of children or how
Speaker 1: many am I going to have? And she's like, to
Speaker 1: be honest, after having one.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can have anymore.
Speaker 1: It's quite apparent that this announcement was hidden amongst this
Speaker 1: YouTube video though, because it's sort of in the halfway point.
Speaker 2: Of the video. It was a team minute mile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't you know, it wasn't the title
Speaker 1: of the video. I'm stepping down or anything. I think
Speaker 1: that they are trying to hide this. They don't want
Speaker 1: to make it a big deal because it was such
Speaker 1: a big deal when she got this position.
Speaker 2: But she obviously had to acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: I actually think it looks worse that they didn't do
Speaker 1: something more professional, like a statement together, because as you said,
Speaker 1: it just looks fishy that it's.
Speaker 2: Been hidden in a YouTube video.
Speaker 1: And I do wonder if there actually is any bad blood.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how long the partnership continues
Speaker 1: from this point. Well, I think that is all we
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