WEBVTT - Shein's Controversial Influencer Trip, Pixie Curtis' Bday Wish List & Mitch Third Under Fire for Disturbing Video

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<v Speaker 1>On today's show, Mollie mae Haig steps down as creative

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<v Speaker 1>director of.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty Little Thing, fast fashion brand.

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<v Speaker 1>Sheen hosts influencers on a paid trip to its factory,

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<v Speaker 1>and Madison Wooly reveals she's moving back in with her parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Torbert and Amy. On the weekend, you welcomed the

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<v Speaker 1>little bundle of Joy into your household? Yes, in the

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<v Speaker 1>bunny variety. So I've rescued a gorgeous little bunny from

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<v Speaker 1>the Animal Welfare League, and there are so many animals

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<v Speaker 1>in need of homes, Especially since COVID, A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people have been dumping their animals, which is really sad. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it also comes as the cost of living

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<v Speaker 1>crisises here and people are finding that they're either not

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<v Speaker 1>able to hold onto their houses and are having to

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<v Speaker 1>move into rentals which don't allow pets. Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's really sad, but we have brought him home and

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<v Speaker 1>we're currently looking for a name. I put something up

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<v Speaker 1>on my Instagram about it and people sending through the

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<v Speaker 1>best suggestions. One was Pancakes, which is apparently on the

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<v Speaker 1>OC there was a bunny, a white bunny called Pancake,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, I feel like I have

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<v Speaker 1>heard pancakes a lot thrown around for rabbits. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should call him Benjamin Bunny. Well, he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>real attitude to him. He kind of like you know

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<v Speaker 1>the footy players when they wear the crisp white boots.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he looks like hopping around in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs kind of like so far, I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like Jack's, Yeah, it could be my voters for Jack's.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be a really cute name. I

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<v Speaker 1>also think it could have a Love Island name because

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<v Speaker 1>your female bunny is called Maura. So I thought Curtis

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<v Speaker 1>because that's not What about Tommy Fury because he's got

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<v Speaker 1>blue eyes. Yes, I was actually thinking he looked a

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<v Speaker 1>bit like a Tommy. Also, the other contender is Dale

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<v Speaker 1>and I love down to Abbey, so I thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>calling him Brant's and I want to say he told

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<v Speaker 1>merdon no, I think Tommy and Mora because it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ironic because Mora was going after Tommy on Love Island. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he has been chasing her non stop and he's been

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<v Speaker 1>humping her. Apparently it's like a dominant thing because he's

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<v Speaker 1>been to sex.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of change coming up in the next yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>three months.

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<v Speaker 1>Madison Woolly has revealed she's moving back in with her

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<v Speaker 1>parents as she searches for an apartment to buy. The

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four year old moved to Sydney five years ago

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<v Speaker 1>from a hometown of Nuser, but is now returning to

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland after her landlord put her rental up for sale.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it is in great timing for Madison because as

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<v Speaker 1>most influencers do come winter, she is going to Europe

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<v Speaker 1>for a month and basically as soon as she's back

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<v Speaker 1>she has to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of the apartment. She's only got a week to

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<v Speaker 2>get out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The announcement has raised a few eyebrows because it

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<v Speaker 1>does coincide with Madison also holding a warehouse sale for

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<v Speaker 1>her brand twenty third in Madisons and the warehouse sale

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<v Speaker 1>was of course to get rid of old stock, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of stock. I do wonder how

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<v Speaker 1>successful this sale was because normally influencers will film how

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<v Speaker 1>many people are there and that there's no stock left. However,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw nothing from it. We see when Sammy Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>has a warehouse sale for one mile that there's literally

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<v Speaker 1>women queuing for hours down the street, but we definitely

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see this sort of fanfare, and I'm sure if

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<v Speaker 1>it did happen, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have been on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the end of the financial year, though, so

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<v Speaker 1>it does make sense that she would hold a warehouse sale. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was really shocked that Madison said that

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<v Speaker 1>she's basically selling everything in her apartment, considering it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like she's, you know, your average dough who's just brought

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<v Speaker 1>everything off Facebook marketplace. A lot of these pieces of furniture,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've reported in previous episodes, are very expensive and

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<v Speaker 1>custom Like she thinks she had her bed made and

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<v Speaker 1>a couch made specifically for this apartment that she was renting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, can you imagine having to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get that from Sydney to Queensland to'd be very difficult. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just insanity. Let's throw to what she said about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually going to be selling basically everything, though I

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<v Speaker 3>own it sounds like I'm having like a mid twenties Christis,

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<v Speaker 3>which potentially I am this current place that I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>like I loved it for so long, but I just

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I've grown up a lot since, like designing

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<v Speaker 3>and decorating, Like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Apartment doesn't really feel like me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not going to be in Sydney for however long.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she's realized that buying everything in white wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>great idea. The whole thing is we do have to

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<v Speaker 1>remember she is only twenty five. I don't get why

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't just move in with Jonathan for a few

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<v Speaker 1>months while she's trying to find a comma days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's going to be still being Sydney. Are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to do long distance? I mean, Jonathan is originally

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<v Speaker 1>from Brisbane. I wonder if he's moving back as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's probably just too expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Living on the East Most.

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<v Speaker 1>Then again, her parents do live in a freaking mansion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but even so, it would be so hard living out

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<v Speaker 1>of home for five years and then going back to.

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<v Speaker 2>Live with your parents.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet her parents are doing a europe troop as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's probably home alone. Maybe she's looking after their

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<v Speaker 1>house for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to mean for a lot of her influencer jobs though,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know a lot of influencers moved to Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>or Melbourne because that's where most of the parties and events.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them are on the Gold Coast, so

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<v Speaker 1>she's not going to be far from it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I more questioned what's going on with her business twenty

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<v Speaker 1>third in Madison, because she has an office since Sydney,

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<v Speaker 1>she's got an employee's really trying to get rid of stock.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she going to continue the business from NUSA? And

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<v Speaker 1>also she's got a podcast she records with her best

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<v Speaker 1>friend in her in house studio. They've had so many

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<v Speaker 1>technical difficulties whenever they've tried to.

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<v Speaker 2>Record away from each other. What's going to happen to that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel for Caitlin.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be really tough if you're in business with

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<v Speaker 1>someone and then they've been either decided to or forced

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<v Speaker 1>to move back home.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to be in NUSA for a while as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because she said well, hopefully I'll be back in Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>before the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's six months.

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<v Speaker 1>It is actually quite a smart financial decision though, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if she's trying to buy a house in this current climate,

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<v Speaker 1>how much would she say, actually moving back in with

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<v Speaker 1>her parents, putting lives at risk on the Tellermarine Freeway

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<v Speaker 1>at almost tripled the speed limit. Entrepreneur Mitch Third, who

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<v Speaker 1>is best known for being the ex boyfriend of Gold

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<v Speaker 1>Coast influencer Tylia Scaines, is under fire again, this time

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<v Speaker 1>for a very disturbing video that he uploaded to Instagram. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the former drink bottle entrepreneur turned energy drink CEO, shared

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<v Speaker 1>a video to his forty four thousand followers showing a

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes swerving through traffic and clogging two hundred and nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>kilometers an hour on the Tullamarine Freeway near an Essendon DFO.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the footage was.

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<v Speaker 1>Captured inside the luxury car, and he captured the video

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<v Speaker 1>we late dot dot dot slept in and tagged his

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<v Speaker 1>friend and in the video you can audibly hear the

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<v Speaker 1>passenger laughing in the background. This vision was disgusting, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually scary that somebody thought it was okay to

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<v Speaker 1>speed that quickly along the highway, the weaving through the cars,

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<v Speaker 1>they'n lucky they didn't kill anybody. And then to post

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<v Speaker 1>it and then have you laughing in the background. The

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<v Speaker 1>backlash was very swift, with followers calling Mitch out and

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<v Speaker 1>reporting him to crime stoppers. One follower wrote, this is

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<v Speaker 1>seriously disgusting, while another said it's not even funny. He

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<v Speaker 1>could have killed someone. The media were also very quick

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<v Speaker 1>to jump on this story. Seven News did a story

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<v Speaker 1>on it, as well as The Herald's son. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really not surprised because from a television perspective, it was

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<v Speaker 1>excellent pictures. They love this sort of stuff, and they

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<v Speaker 1>named Mitch third as well as the driver.

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<v Speaker 2>But Mitch has come out and he's denied it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He claims the footage was not his video and

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<v Speaker 1>that it was filmed two years ago. He wrote, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday's video was not my video. I was not driving, filming,

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<v Speaker 1>or even in that car. I don't condone speeding and

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have reposted the video thinking it was acceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did he write we are running late?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think he is claiming that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>memory that's popped up from two years ago, because he

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<v Speaker 1>shared the date of the video and it was the

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<v Speaker 1>same date, but two years prior. It was probably it

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<v Speaker 1>probably was a couple of years ago, but he clearly

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<v Speaker 1>filmed it exactly him laughing in the back sound so

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<v Speaker 1>much like his life, doesn't it. Well. When the video

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<v Speaker 1>was posted, he was on a work trip in Melbourne

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<v Speaker 1>because he normally lives on the Gold Coast, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can see why people assumed it was a live video.

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<v Speaker 1>This has turned into a police matter, so Victorian police

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<v Speaker 1>are reviewing the vision and it does follow allegations of

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<v Speaker 1>a very bitter dispute between Talia and Mitch Third and

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<v Speaker 1>that is over their e commerce company, which is called

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<v Speaker 1>Third Fixed Collection. And Talia has also accused Mitch of

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<v Speaker 1>threats of violence, which he has denied. So things aren't

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<v Speaker 1>looking great for Mitch at the moment in the media.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not the best lead up to his energy drink

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<v Speaker 1>company launch. I don't think it will matter though, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think the people that are buying stuff from Mitch,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd probably think it's hilarious for him to post videos

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<v Speaker 1>of someone speeding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, his target market might be fuck wits.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. He did say earlier in the year that he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be canceled, wasn't it. These are the best

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<v Speaker 1>products I found on she in this week, but don't

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<v Speaker 1>buy them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a potato cuchin. What's not to.

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<v Speaker 1>Love if you guys can believe it, controversial fast fashion

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<v Speaker 1>brand Sheen has hosted influences on a paid trip to

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<v Speaker 1>Guangzhou in China to tour one of its factories. So

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<v Speaker 1>six influencers were brought to what she calls its innovation

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<v Speaker 1>factory to experience for themselves what goes on behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course report back to their followers. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how highly controlled this tour.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have been.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminds me when all the prestigious schools do school

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<v Speaker 1>tours and apparently the word is that they just put

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<v Speaker 1>all of the troubled students into a room and that's

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<v Speaker 1>hied them away. Oh, there would have been so much

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<v Speaker 1>strategy around which factory workers, to include which rooms they're

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to go into. It also should be noted that

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<v Speaker 1>she have around six thousand different factories.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the house.

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<v Speaker 1>So this innovation factory has clearly been hand picked to

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<v Speaker 1>be the top factory that influencers in the media can

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<v Speaker 1>go to. What I'm more shocked about is that they

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<v Speaker 1>managed to get six influencers to go on this trip.

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<v Speaker 1>If any of them have managers, you would have assumed

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<v Speaker 1>they would have been told not to touch this trip

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<v Speaker 1>with a ten foot poll. If I was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the influencers, I would have been scared that this would

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<v Speaker 1>somehow turn into one of those reality shows where they

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<v Speaker 1>make them work as the worker or you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't that be the best show?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, things haven't gone down well for influencer Danny Carbonari.

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<v Speaker 1>She is facing criticis after attending this tour because she

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to offer a very glowing review of the factory tour.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is despite the fact that the company has

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<v Speaker 1>a very long documented history of labor abuse. Now, to

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<v Speaker 1>put this into perspective, how much weight Danny's comments have

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<v Speaker 1>She has nearly half a million followers on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 1>on her Instagram she did chronicle this influencer trip, sharing

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<v Speaker 1>a video of the factory tour and writing it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me to put this into words how this trip

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<v Speaker 1>has impacted me. I was really excited and impressed to

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<v Speaker 1>see the working conditions. Now this caption was paired with

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<v Speaker 1>vision of a clean, brightly lit factory, she continued, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I think my biggest takeaway from this trip is to

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<v Speaker 1>be an independent thinker, get the facts and see it

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<v Speaker 1>with your own eyes, She finished saying, there's a narrative

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<v Speaker 1>fed to the US, and I'm one that always likes

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<v Speaker 1>to be open minded and seek the truth. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for that about myself, and I hope the same

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Now. Danny wasn't the only one to share

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<v Speaker 1>about this trip. The other five influencers shared a very

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<v Speaker 1>similar sentiment online and also used very similar language referring

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<v Speaker 1>to misinformation. So influencer DestinE sudo throte, I expected this

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<v Speaker 1>facility to be so filled with people just slaving away.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really got a use of the word slavery,

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<v Speaker 2>but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was actually pleasantly surprised now as I touched on. This

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<v Speaker 1>is one of six thousand factories that Sheen has, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was clearly hand picked for influences well to refresh

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's memories. A twenty twenty one investigation by Swiss watchdog

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<v Speaker 1>group Public Eye found that employees often worked in unsafe conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>Several factory workers also told researchers that they worked up

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<v Speaker 1>to seventy five hours a week and got only one

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<v Speaker 1>day off each month. It also stated that none of

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<v Speaker 1>them had been given an employment contract, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>violation of labor laws in China. Also, you guys will

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<v Speaker 1>remember there was that Channel four documentary in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two called Inside the Sheine Machine that was the worst

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<v Speaker 1>publicity Sheine could have ever. God, I don't understand, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>can't people see how transparent it is. They've had this

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<v Speaker 1>documentary and their PR team's gone, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>What can we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get these idiot influences in to brainwash everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, these conditions are great. Thank god people are

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<v Speaker 2>seeing through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, for those who haven't seen the documentary yet, they

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<v Speaker 1>found that workers were only being paid two cents per

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<v Speaker 1>item that they made. And the host of the documentary,

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<v Speaker 1>Aman Amani, she actually hit out in Danny's comments section,

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<v Speaker 1>so she wrote, I hosted the Channel four documentary that

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<v Speaker 1>did the undercover investigation into factories that provide clothes to Sheen.

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<v Speaker 1>There is video evidence of laws being broken.

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<v Speaker 2>They aren't rumors.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very sad that you have decided to let

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<v Speaker 1>yourself be used to defend these practices. Yeah, wouldn't it

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<v Speaker 1>have been better if they actually sent journalists in, like

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<v Speaker 1>send Stacy Duley and send a man in like it's

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely ridiculous as a reason why they don't want them, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Danny thought that she was a journalist,

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<v Speaker 1>because she also copped shit for basically doing an interview

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<v Speaker 1>with an employee who she said answered all of her

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<v Speaker 1>questions authentically and honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>They've begun to their back to say it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So one follower said, you're not an investigative journalists,

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<v Speaker 1>You're a puppet for a company that is actively destroying

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<v Speaker 1>our planet and exploiting vulnerable workers. Now, the backlash has

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<v Speaker 1>been so widespread to Danny's videos that they have gone

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<v Speaker 1>viral on TikTok and also Twitter because people are using

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<v Speaker 1>them to try and correct the public record about this

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<v Speaker 1>disgusting company.

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<v Speaker 2>How much she reckoned.

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<v Speaker 1>She actually paid these influences to attend because it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a blow to their reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>It would have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be a ton of money for anyone to pair their

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<v Speaker 1>brand machines, and it is quite clear that Sheen is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to rope in young influencers to help clean up

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<v Speaker 1>its image and this factory to it. It just came

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks following the Ribka Twins from Australia

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<v Speaker 1>launching a collection with She's quite clear that they are

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<v Speaker 1>making a big play for the gen Z market, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so transparent. They're trying to pull the wool

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<v Speaker 1>over consumers' eyes and make people think that they've got

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<v Speaker 1>it all wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting that the Riubka twins weren't in attendance. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>probably were washing their hair or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, you know, the collection hasn't gone down so well

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<v Speaker 1>with followers, or they might have pretended that they've already

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<v Speaker 1>been there before, because it would be a bit weird

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<v Speaker 1>being like, oh, we've launched a collection, now we're checking

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<v Speaker 1>out what it's like. Even the Ribka Twins were saying

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<v Speaker 1>in that interview that, oh, Sheen is cleaning up its act,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, emissions are getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>They were spilling the same bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing that is worrying is at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>with the cost of living crisis, people don't have money

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<v Speaker 1>to buy a sustainable clothes. So I'm worried that people

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<v Speaker 1>will see this fake messaging that's been put out and think, oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I will buy that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think people are that stupid. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw the backlash in the comments. No one is buying this.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of spending all the money on influences, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>they actually spend it on appropriately paying their workers, or

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<v Speaker 1>because it's too much money. Yeah, improve the conditions. It's

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely ridiculous. Hey, daddy, I want to non pulumpa.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to get men on pu lumper.

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<v Speaker 1>Right away, all right, Roker, all right, I'll get you

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<v Speaker 1>one before that. I want to now. Roxy Desenko has

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<v Speaker 1>shared her daughter Pixie's very lavish birthday wish list ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of her twelfth birthday, which is in August now. The

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<v Speaker 1>list is three pages long, with one page dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>close and the other two for shoes. It's estimated that

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<v Speaker 1>this wish list adds up to ten thousand dollars, but

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, some of the items were in the

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds rather than the thousands. So well, it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that you get every single item on your wish list.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I wouldn't be surprised though if they do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do love how Roxy shared it to her Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>story with the caption Pixie Curtis was quiet. It's clear

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<v Speaker 1>why she then added the face palm emoji. It's nice

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<v Speaker 1>how Pixie's giving her parents six or seven weeks so

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<v Speaker 1>to save up because at birthday, as you said's not

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<v Speaker 1>to August. I love how detailed the descriptions of each

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<v Speaker 1>item were.

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<v Speaker 2>They were very specific.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't want her parents to mess up, particularly when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to close. I mean, it's so funny because

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend I actually followed Pixie Curtis.

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<v Speaker 2>I was one of those people who sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe checked in in her life, but now I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>following her because she's in Europe at the moment. Has

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<v Speaker 1>the whole family.

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<v Speaker 2>Moved or what?

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<v Speaker 1>Because she put up a post saying it's my last

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<v Speaker 1>day of school.

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<v Speaker 2>They moved Singapore. Yeah, they moved to Singapore.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm not across Yeah, because we spoke about a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago how their family homes sold for

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen million dollars and everyone was like, oh, they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce. But Oliver Roxy's partner is working in Singapore,

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<v Speaker 1>so they've made the move over there. I do love

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<v Speaker 1>that Pixie divided her list into expensive gifts as well

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<v Speaker 1>as cheap slash mid range gifts, just to.

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<v Speaker 2>Help them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. In terms of the expensive gifts, they were designer,

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<v Speaker 1>so there was a Oney three hundred and fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Laurent hoodie and a five hundred and eighty dollar

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander McQueen T shirt. She also added seventeen pairs of shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>To the list.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, she's not going to really need a jumper. If

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<v Speaker 1>she's living in Singapore, it's going to be bloody hot

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<v Speaker 1>and human there. I mean, this list actually wasn't as

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<v Speaker 1>bad as her Christmas list last year because in that

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<v Speaker 1>list she had a nine thousand dollar designer bag listed.

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<v Speaker 2>Proply got it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited to see what Pixie does to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>her twelfth birthday party because last year we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, everyone was talking about it, the Neon disco

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<v Speaker 1>themed birthday party, which was rumored to cost forty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this birthday party, to.

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<v Speaker 1>Refresh people's memory, included a mocktail bar, live DJ, a

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<v Speaker 1>dance floor, three sixty photo booth, and a fire breathing

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<v Speaker 1>performance artist. She'll probably end up flying all of her

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<v Speaker 1>friends to Singapore for a huge birthday party.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it too late to befriend her?

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<v Speaker 4>There is no drama, There is absolutely no tea.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing that's gone on.

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<v Speaker 1>Molly May is stepping down from her role as creative

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<v Speaker 1>director of Pretty Little Thing less than two years after

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<v Speaker 1>being controversially appointed, the influencer has decided to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>being a mum, and in doing so, is reportedly stepping

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<v Speaker 1>away from a ten million pounds a year salary. She

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<v Speaker 1>made the shock announcement at the nineteen minute mark of

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<v Speaker 1>a YouTube video where she answered fan questions in her car.

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<v Speaker 1>She said a more formal announcement on Instagram would follow,

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<v Speaker 1>but is yet to post one. Were you guys surprised?

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't in highly surprised by this news. I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>think that this role had an expiration date to it.

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<v Speaker 1>There was so much controversy when it was announced that

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<v Speaker 1>she was going to be the creative director, and also

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions as to what the role actually included,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that it was sort of a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a trial. So, particularly now that she is on

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<v Speaker 1>maternity leave, I think that they probably thought, well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>paying her a fuck ton of money. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>she is better utilized in a marketing role as the

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<v Speaker 1>face of the brand as opposed to someone who is.

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<v Speaker 2>A creative director of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Pretty Little Thing copped a lot of criticism when

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<v Speaker 1>they did announce Molly as creative director, So if they

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<v Speaker 1>were wanting to move her along. It's pretty clever timing

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that she is on maternity leave, and it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of does organically look like maybe this was Molly's decision. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it sort of makes sense that she's stepping back a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and maybe working on her own personal brand

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Well. She was quick to assure fans that

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<v Speaker 1>there was no bad blood between her and PLT. She

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<v Speaker 1>also referred to PLT as literally family and said she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue as a brand ambassador. And she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>reveal that it was her decision to step down from

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<v Speaker 1>the role, but later in the video she did say this.

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<v Speaker 4>Myself and PRT we've decided, like collectively that the creative

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<v Speaker 4>director role as much as it was incredible, and I've

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<v Speaker 4>literally loved being the creative director of PRT more than anything.

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<v Speaker 4>It was such an amazing chapter for me. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>like naturally come to an end. Like I'm a mum now.

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<v Speaker 4>I never really gave myself a maternity leave. I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of got straight back into work instantly because my work

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<v Speaker 4>is my phone, and I don't know, like showing my

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<v Speaker 4>life is my work, and I just felt like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there we was just certain areas of my life where

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<v Speaker 4>I had to sort of reevaluate. The last thing I'd

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<v Speaker 4>want to do would be to be in a role

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<v Speaker 4>that I can't fulfill right now at this moment in

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<v Speaker 4>my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I am very curious to know whether this role is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be filled by someone else, because if it isn't,

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<v Speaker 1>it is quite apparent that this role was really smoke

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<v Speaker 1>and mirrors.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a PR stunt.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a PR stunt to get it to look

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<v Speaker 1>like Molly May isn't just your average influencer that's the

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<v Speaker 1>face of a brand. She is invested in this bread

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<v Speaker 1>and she is selecting the outfit, she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing the marketing, she's doing everything.

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<v Speaker 1>She's sitting in that office when we all know that

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't the reality of the situation. And it is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that it has been about two years since those

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<v Speaker 1>infamous comments that Molly made about everyone having the same

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours in a day, because she faced heavy

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<v Speaker 1>criticism for not recognizing her own privilege. So I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if they were like, fuck, we better weigh at least

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<v Speaker 1>two years for her to have had this role so

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't look like she couldn't hack it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that those comments have anything to do with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they would have been happy that it

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<v Speaker 1>created more publicity for their brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think about this rumored ten million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar salary, because I recall at the time newsbroke of

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<v Speaker 1>her becoming the creative director, people were saying it was

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<v Speaker 1>more like two million pounds. I think it would have

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot for her to make a bold

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<v Speaker 1>announcement at the time that she was no longer an

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<v Speaker 1>influencer anymore. She was saying, you know, this momentous moment

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<v Speaker 1>showed that she's much more than an influencer, So it

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<v Speaker 1>would have had to be a hefty paycheck. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>ten million pounds across a couple of years, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's the two year deal. Do you think, though, that

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<v Speaker 1>she could have honestly just gone, I don't have time

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<v Speaker 1>to do this anymore. I'd rather spend time at home

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<v Speaker 1>with my family. Well, look, I feel like that is

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately a part of this. But the timing is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because just two months ago, pretty little things long

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<v Speaker 1>standing co founder Umar Khmani step down as CEO, and

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<v Speaker 1>him stepping down adds an extra layer of intrigue over

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<v Speaker 1>this decision because It's like, was he the one backing Molly?

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<v Speaker 1>And now that he's gone, you know, someone's come in

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<v Speaker 1>and looked at the books and being like, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you paying this person all this money? She doesn't even

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<v Speaker 1>come into the office from memory. Wasn't he really a

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<v Speaker 1>huge part of getting her over? He was, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>know when she was on Love Island. He's like, we

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<v Speaker 1>need that girl. She is the future. I mean. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing is he still is connected to the brand because

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<v Speaker 1>his father's company, Boohoo Group, did take over PLT. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's a lot of decisions that are being

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<v Speaker 1>reviewed now to see what is the best path moving forward. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly considering this cost of living crisis that we're in

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, a lot of brands, even large brands

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<v Speaker 1>like PLT, are having to look at the books, reflect

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<v Speaker 1>on how they're spending their money and whether it's the

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<v Speaker 1>best way going forward. That's such a good point because

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<v Speaker 1>sales have dropped during the pandemic. Everyone was in a

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<v Speaker 1>buying frenzy because of all the government stimulus, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a great point. They're probably not making as much

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<v Speaker 1>money to be able to afford for these kind of

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<v Speaker 1>pr stunts. I think they're a sector that's not really

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<v Speaker 1>struggling as much as others, considering their sells such cheap

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<v Speaker 1>clothing and a lot of people that were buying expensive

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<v Speaker 1>stuff maybe looking for fast fashion options now, but not

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<v Speaker 1>to the same volume that they would have during the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps not. I mean, we are speculating here, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it has a lot to do with how

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<v Speaker 1>much Molly May has struggled with motherhood. She's made no

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<v Speaker 1>secrets about it. She has been documenting the highs and

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<v Speaker 1>lows of it, and she said that she's made this

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<v Speaker 1>realization that she's never going to get this time back

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<v Speaker 1>with Bambi. I did love how open she was, because

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, people have been asking me when am I

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<v Speaker 1>going to have my next lot of children or how

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<v Speaker 1>many am I going to have? And she's like, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, after having one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I can have anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite apparent that this announcement was hidden amongst this

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube video though, because it's sort of in the halfway point.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the video. It was a team minute mile.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it wasn't you know, it wasn't the title

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<v Speaker 1>of the video. I'm stepping down or anything. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that they are trying to hide this. They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to make it a big deal because it was such

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal when she got this position.

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<v Speaker 2>But she obviously had to acknowledge it.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think it looks worse that they didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>something more professional, like a statement together, because as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it just looks fishy that it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Been hidden in a YouTube video.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do wonder if there actually is any bad blood.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be interesting to see how long the partnership continues

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<v Speaker 1>from this point. Well, I think that is all we

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