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Speaker 1: On today's show, Mollie mae Haig steps down as creative

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Speaker 1: director of.

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Speaker 2: Pretty Little Thing, fast fashion brand.

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Speaker 1: Sheen hosts influencers on a paid trip to its factory,

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Speaker 1: and Madison Wooly reveals she's moving back in with her parents.

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sophie Torbert and Amy. On the weekend, you welcomed the

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Speaker 1: little bundle of Joy into your household? Yes, in the

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Speaker 1: bunny variety. So I've rescued a gorgeous little bunny from

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Speaker 1: the Animal Welfare League, and there are so many animals

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Speaker 1: in need of homes, Especially since COVID, A lot of

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Speaker 1: people have been dumping their animals, which is really sad. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it also comes as the cost of living

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Speaker 1: crisises here and people are finding that they're either not

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Speaker 1: able to hold onto their houses and are having to

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Speaker 1: move into rentals which don't allow pets. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: it's really sad, but we have brought him home and

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Speaker 1: we're currently looking for a name. I put something up

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Speaker 1: on my Instagram about it and people sending through the

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Speaker 1: best suggestions. One was Pancakes, which is apparently on the

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Speaker 1: OC there was a bunny, a white bunny called Pancake,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I feel like I have

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Speaker 1: heard pancakes a lot thrown around for rabbits. I think

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Speaker 1: you should call him Benjamin Bunny. Well, he's got a

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Speaker 1: real attitude to him. He kind of like you know

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Speaker 1: the footy players when they wear the crisp white boots.

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Speaker 1: That's what he looks like hopping around in the backyard.

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Speaker 1: He needs kind of like so far, I was saying,

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Speaker 1: like Jack's, Yeah, it could be my voters for Jack's.

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Speaker 1: I think that would be a really cute name. I

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Speaker 1: also think it could have a Love Island name because

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Speaker 1: your female bunny is called Maura. So I thought Curtis

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Speaker 1: because that's not What about Tommy Fury because he's got

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Speaker 1: blue eyes. Yes, I was actually thinking he looked a

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Speaker 1: bit like a Tommy. Also, the other contender is Dale

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Speaker 1: and I love down to Abbey, so I thinking of

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Speaker 1: calling him Brant's and I want to say he told

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Speaker 1: merdon no, I think Tommy and Mora because it's kind

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Speaker 1: of ironic because Mora was going after Tommy on Love Island. Well,

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Speaker 1: he has been chasing her non stop and he's been

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Speaker 1: humping her. Apparently it's like a dominant thing because he's

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Speaker 1: been to sex.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of change coming up in the next yeah,

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Speaker 3: three months.

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Speaker 1: Madison Woolly has revealed she's moving back in with her

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Speaker 1: parents as she searches for an apartment to buy. The

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Speaker 1: twenty four year old moved to Sydney five years ago

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Speaker 1: from a hometown of Nuser, but is now returning to

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Speaker 1: Queensland after her landlord put her rental up for sale.

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Speaker 1: Now it is in great timing for Madison because as

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Speaker 1: most influencers do come winter, she is going to Europe

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Speaker 1: for a month and basically as soon as she's back

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Speaker 1: she has to get.

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Speaker 2: Out of the apartment. She's only got a week to

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Speaker 2: get out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The announcement has raised a few eyebrows because it

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Speaker 1: does coincide with Madison also holding a warehouse sale for

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Speaker 1: her brand twenty third in Madisons and the warehouse sale

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Speaker 1: was of course to get rid of old stock, but

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of stock. I do wonder how

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Speaker 1: successful this sale was because normally influencers will film how

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Speaker 1: many people are there and that there's no stock left. However,

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Speaker 1: we saw nothing from it. We see when Sammy Robinson

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Speaker 1: has a warehouse sale for one mile that there's literally

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Speaker 1: women queuing for hours down the street, but we definitely

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Speaker 1: didn't see this sort of fanfare, and I'm sure if

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Speaker 2: Would have been on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: It is the end of the financial year, though, so

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Speaker 1: it does make sense that she would hold a warehouse sale. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was really shocked that Madison said that

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Speaker 1: she's basically selling everything in her apartment, considering it's not

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Speaker 1: like she's, you know, your average dough who's just brought

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Speaker 1: everything off Facebook marketplace. A lot of these pieces of furniture,

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Speaker 1: as we've reported in previous episodes, are very expensive and

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Speaker 1: custom Like she thinks she had her bed made and

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Speaker 1: a couch made specifically for this apartment that she was renting.

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Speaker 2: Well, can you imagine having to.

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Speaker 1: Get that from Sydney to Queensland to'd be very difficult. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's just insanity. Let's throw to what she said about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually going to be selling basically everything, though I

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Speaker 3: own it sounds like I'm having like a mid twenties Christis,

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Speaker 3: which potentially I am this current place that I'm in

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Speaker 3: like I loved it for so long, but I just

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Speaker 3: feel like I've grown up a lot since, like designing

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Speaker 2: Apartment doesn't really feel like me.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not going to be in Sydney for however long.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she's realized that buying everything in white wasn't a

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Speaker 1: great idea. The whole thing is we do have to

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Speaker 1: remember she is only twenty five. I don't get why

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Speaker 1: she doesn't just move in with Jonathan for a few

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Speaker 1: because he's going to be still being Sydney. Are they

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Speaker 1: going to do long distance? I mean, Jonathan is originally

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Speaker 2: Living on the East Most.

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Speaker 1: Then again, her parents do live in a freaking mansion. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but even so, it would be so hard living out

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Speaker 2: Live with your parents.

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Speaker 1: I bet her parents are doing a europe troop as well,

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Speaker 1: and she's probably home alone. Maybe she's looking after their

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Speaker 2: I wonder what this is.

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Speaker 1: Going to mean for a lot of her influencer jobs though,

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Speaker 1: because I know a lot of influencers moved to Sydney

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Speaker 1: or Melbourne because that's where most of the parties and events.

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Speaker 2: So that's not true.

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Speaker 1: A lot of them are on the Gold Coast, so

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Speaker 1: she's not going to be far from it at all.

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Speaker 1: I more questioned what's going on with her business twenty

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Speaker 1: third in Madison, because she has an office since Sydney,

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Speaker 1: she's got an employee's really trying to get rid of stock.

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Speaker 1: Is she going to continue the business from NUSA? And

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Speaker 1: also she's got a podcast she records with her best

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Speaker 1: friend in her in house studio. They've had so many

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Speaker 1: technical difficulties whenever they've tried to.

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Speaker 2: Record away from each other. What's going to happen to that? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I do feel for Caitlin.

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Speaker 1: It would be really tough if you're in business with

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Speaker 2: I feel like.

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Speaker 1: She's going to be in NUSA for a while as well,

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Speaker 2: That's six months.

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Speaker 1: It is actually quite a smart financial decision though, especially

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Speaker 1: if she's trying to buy a house in this current climate,

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Speaker 1: how much would she say, actually moving back in with

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Speaker 1: her parents, putting lives at risk on the Tellermarine Freeway

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Speaker 1: at almost tripled the speed limit. Entrepreneur Mitch Third, who

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Speaker 1: is best known for being the ex boyfriend of Gold

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Speaker 1: Coast influencer Tylia Scaines, is under fire again, this time

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Speaker 1: for a very disturbing video that he uploaded to Instagram. Now,

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Speaker 1: the former drink bottle entrepreneur turned energy drink CEO, shared

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Speaker 1: a video to his forty four thousand followers showing a

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Speaker 1: Mercedes swerving through traffic and clogging two hundred and nineteen

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Speaker 1: kilometers an hour on the Tullamarine Freeway near an Essendon DFO.

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Speaker 2: Now, the footage was.

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Speaker 1: Captured inside the luxury car, and he captured the video

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Speaker 1: we late dot dot dot slept in and tagged his

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Speaker 1: friend and in the video you can audibly hear the

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Speaker 1: passenger laughing in the background. This vision was disgusting, Like,

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Speaker 1: it's actually scary that somebody thought it was okay to

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Speaker 1: they'n lucky they didn't kill anybody. And then to post

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Speaker 1: it and then have you laughing in the background. The

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Speaker 1: backlash was very swift, with followers calling Mitch out and

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Speaker 1: reporting him to crime stoppers. One follower wrote, this is

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Speaker 1: seriously disgusting, while another said it's not even funny. He

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Speaker 1: could have killed someone. The media were also very quick

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Speaker 1: to jump on this story. Seven News did a story

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Speaker 1: on it, as well as The Herald's son. And I'm

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Speaker 1: really not surprised because from a television perspective, it was

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Speaker 1: excellent pictures. They love this sort of stuff, and they

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Speaker 1: named Mitch third as well as the driver.

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Speaker 2: But Mitch has come out and he's denied it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He claims the footage was not his video and

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Speaker 1: that it was filmed two years ago. He wrote, guys,

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Speaker 1: yesterday's video was not my video. I was not driving, filming,

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Speaker 1: or even in that car. I don't condone speeding and

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have reposted the video thinking it was acceptable.

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Speaker 2: Why did he write we are running late?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think he is claiming that this is a

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Speaker 1: memory that's popped up from two years ago, because he

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Speaker 1: shared the date of the video and it was the

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Speaker 1: same date, but two years prior. It was probably it

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Speaker 1: probably was a couple of years ago, but he clearly

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Speaker 1: filmed it exactly him laughing in the back sound so

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Speaker 1: much like his life, doesn't it. Well. When the video

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Speaker 1: can see why people assumed it was a live video.

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Speaker 1: This has turned into a police matter, so Victorian police

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Speaker 1: a very bitter dispute between Talia and Mitch Third and

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Speaker 1: that is over their e commerce company, which is called

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Speaker 1: Third Fixed Collection. And Talia has also accused Mitch of

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Speaker 1: threats of violence, which he has denied. So things aren't

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Speaker 1: looking great for Mitch at the moment in the media.

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Speaker 1: Probably not the best lead up to his energy drink

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Speaker 1: company launch. I don't think it will matter though, because

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Speaker 1: I think the people that are buying stuff from Mitch,

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Speaker 1: they'd probably think it's hilarious for him to post videos

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Speaker 2: Yeah, his target market might be fuck wits.

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Speaker 1: Well. He did say earlier in the year that he

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Speaker 1: wanted to be canceled, wasn't it. These are the best

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Speaker 1: products I found on she in this week, but don't

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Speaker 2: It's a potato cuchin. What's not to.

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Speaker 1: Love if you guys can believe it, controversial fast fashion

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Speaker 1: brand Sheen has hosted influences on a paid trip to

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Speaker 1: Guangzhou in China to tour one of its factories. So

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Speaker 1: six influencers were brought to what she calls its innovation

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Speaker 1: factory to experience for themselves what goes on behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: and of course report back to their followers. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine how highly controlled this tour.

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Speaker 2: Would have been.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me when all the prestigious schools do school

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Speaker 1: tours and apparently the word is that they just put

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Speaker 1: all of the troubled students into a room and that's

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Speaker 1: hied them away. Oh, there would have been so much

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Speaker 1: strategy around which factory workers, to include which rooms they're

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Speaker 1: allowed to go into. It also should be noted that

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Speaker 1: she have around six thousand different factories.

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Speaker 2: So this is the house.

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Speaker 1: So this innovation factory has clearly been hand picked to

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Speaker 1: be the top factory that influencers in the media can

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Speaker 1: go to. What I'm more shocked about is that they

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Speaker 1: managed to get six influencers to go on this trip.

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Speaker 1: If any of them have managers, you would have assumed

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Speaker 2: How much she reckoned.

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Speaker 1: Because she put up a post saying it's my last

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Speaker 2: They moved Singapore. Yeah, they moved to Singapore.

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Speaker 1: Well. In terms of the expensive gifts, they were designer,

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Speaker 1: Look, she's not going to really need a jumper. If

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see what Pixie does to celebrate

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Speaker 2: Now, this birthday party, to.

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Speaker 2: Is it too late to befriend her?

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Speaker 4: There is no drama, There is absolutely no tea.

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Speaker 4: Myself and PRT we've decided, like collectively that the creative

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Speaker 4: It was such an amazing chapter for me. It's just

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Speaker 4: I never really gave myself a maternity leave. I kind

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Speaker 1: going to be filled by someone else, because if it isn't,

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00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 1: it is quite apparent that this role was really smoke

442
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Speaker 1: and mirrors.

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Speaker 2: It was a PR stunt.

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Speaker 1: It was a PR stunt to get it to look

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Speaker 1: like Molly May isn't just your average influencer that's the

446
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Speaker 1: face of a brand. She is invested in this bread

447
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,360
Speaker 1: and she is selecting the outfit, she's.

448
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,639
Speaker 2: Doing the marketing, she's doing everything.

449
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Speaker 1: She's sitting in that office when we all know that

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the reality of the situation. And it is

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Speaker 1: interesting that it has been about two years since those

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Speaker 1: infamous comments that Molly made about everyone having the same

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours in a day, because she faced heavy

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Speaker 1: criticism for not recognizing her own privilege. So I wonder

455
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Speaker 1: if they were like, fuck, we better weigh at least

456
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Speaker 1: two years for her to have had this role so

457
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like she couldn't hack it. I don't

458
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Speaker 1: think that those comments have anything to do with it.

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Speaker 1: I think that they would have been happy that it

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Speaker 1: created more publicity for their brand.

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Speaker 2: Probably.

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think about this rumored ten million

463
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 1: dollar salary, because I recall at the time newsbroke of

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Speaker 1: her becoming the creative director, people were saying it was

465
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Speaker 1: more like two million pounds. I think it would have

466
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Speaker 1: to be a lot for her to make a bold

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Speaker 1: announcement at the time that she was no longer an

468
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Speaker 1: influencer anymore. She was saying, you know, this momentous moment

469
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: showed that she's much more than an influencer, So it

470
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 1: would have had to be a hefty paycheck. Maybe it's

471
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Speaker 1: ten million pounds across a couple of years, so maybe

472
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Speaker 1: it's the two year deal. Do you think, though, that

473
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: she could have honestly just gone, I don't have time

474
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: to do this anymore. I'd rather spend time at home

475
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: with my family. Well, look, I feel like that is

476
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Speaker 1: legitimately a part of this. But the timing is pretty

477
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: interesting because just two months ago, pretty little things long

478
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 1: standing co founder Umar Khmani step down as CEO, and

479
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: him stepping down adds an extra layer of intrigue over

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Speaker 1: this decision because It's like, was he the one backing Molly?

481
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: And now that he's gone, you know, someone's come in

482
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Speaker 1: and looked at the books and being like, why are

483
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: you paying this person all this money? She doesn't even

484
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: come into the office from memory. Wasn't he really a

485
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: huge part of getting her over? He was, Yeah, I

486
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: know when she was on Love Island. He's like, we

487
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: need that girl. She is the future. I mean. The

488
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: thing is he still is connected to the brand because

489
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: his father's company, Boohoo Group, did take over PLT. But again,

490
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of decisions that are being

491
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Speaker 1: reviewed now to see what is the best path moving forward. Yeah,

492
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Speaker 1: particularly considering this cost of living crisis that we're in

493
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 1: at the moment, a lot of brands, even large brands

494
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: like PLT, are having to look at the books, reflect

495
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 1: on how they're spending their money and whether it's the

496
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: best way going forward. That's such a good point because

497
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: sales have dropped during the pandemic. Everyone was in a

498
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: buying frenzy because of all the government stimulus, so it's

499
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: actually a great point. They're probably not making as much

500
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Speaker 1: money to be able to afford for these kind of

501
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: pr stunts. I think they're a sector that's not really

502
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: struggling as much as others, considering their sells such cheap

503
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: clothing and a lot of people that were buying expensive

504
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: stuff maybe looking for fast fashion options now, but not

505
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 1: to the same volume that they would have during the pandemic.

506
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Speaker 1: Perhaps not. I mean, we are speculating here, but I

507
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Speaker 1: do think it has a lot to do with how

508
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Speaker 1: much Molly May has struggled with motherhood. She's made no

509
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Speaker 1: secrets about it. She has been documenting the highs and

510
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: lows of it, and she said that she's made this

511
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: realization that she's never going to get this time back

512
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: with Bambi. I did love how open she was, because

513
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: she's like, people have been asking me when am I

514
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: going to have my next lot of children or how

515
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: many am I going to have? And she's like, to

516
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: be honest, after having one.

517
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I can have anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's quite apparent that this announcement was hidden amongst this

519
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: YouTube video though, because it's sort of in the halfway point.

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00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 2: Of the video. It was a team minute mile.

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00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't you know, it wasn't the title

522
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: of the video. I'm stepping down or anything. I think

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00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: that they are trying to hide this. They don't want

524
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: to make it a big deal because it was such

525
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: a big deal when she got this position.

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00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: But she obviously had to acknowledge it.

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00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: I actually think it looks worse that they didn't do

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00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: something more professional, like a statement together, because as you said,

529
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 1: it just looks fishy that it's.

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Speaker 2: Been hidden in a YouTube video.

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Speaker 1: And I do wonder if there actually is any bad blood.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how long the partnership continues

533
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: from this point. Well, I think that is all we

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Speaker 1: have time for. Thank you so much for joining us

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