1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: On today's show, Georgie Stevenson's dream brand deal turns into 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: a nightmare, The podcast feud engulfing Saffron Baker and Anastasia 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: kings North, Tom Felton's secret love for Emma Watson, and 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Mitch Third's surprising confession. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: your dose of the hottest influencer in pop culture news 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: twice a week. I'm Amy Torbert, and our renovations aren't 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: really going to plan. What has happened this time? Well, 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: this is the second time that we've had to call 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: a plumber out because Dale accidentally hit the pipes while 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: he was trying to dig a trench out to his office. 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: This was actually when we were recording Tuesday's episode, and 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: it was right at the end, and anyone who knows me, 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: I need to go to the toilet constantly, and I 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: had to hold my bladder for the whole way, the 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: whole thirty minute trip home. Yeah, just thirsty. I wanted 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: to fill my drink bottle up. There's literally no water. No, 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: you don't realize how much you take running water for granted. 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: So that's all been fixed now hashtag first world problems. Well, 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm having a bit of a shit of the day. 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: I have realized I'm completely losing it. So it's only 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: Thursday when we're recording this. I feel like I need 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: the weekend to come. Firstly, I had an optometrist appointment 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: today and I booked the wrong optometrist. I also to 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: me and for the wrong optometrist too, and I was wondering, like, 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: why can't you find my details? Anyway? I also didn't 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: even make it to the appointment. I was so late 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: that they canceled on me because, unbeknownst to me, at 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: school holidays and I could not get a park anywhere 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: at the shopping center. And then I also lost my 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: car and could not find step but half an hour 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: of search. Bring on that iron infusion? Is it me? 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Or does anyone else find it really difficult to get 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: glasses because the ones I think are really cool just 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: look stupid on me. And I see Olivia Rodgers always 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: rocking these really cool glasses, and I go and try 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: them on and I just look like a fake nerd 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: or something. Well, last time Sophie and I got glasses, 38 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: we kind of went for the ones we thought looked 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: cool slash funny and they're just embarrassing to take out 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: in meetings when you're with older men that don't get 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: the fashion. Yeah. Well I'm Kate Torbert and my face 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: is currently quite red, but not as red as I 43 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: was thinking. Because I had ipl laser on my face 44 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: this afternoon and I was expecting to having to have 45 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: like ice packs on my skin, I thought maybe I 46 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: couldn't record the podcast. But it was actually a very 47 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: pleasant experience. Sophie had told me to expect excruciating pain, 48 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: and it wasn't. It was bad at all. Now I 49 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: figured out after delving into my emails from six years ago, 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: that I actually had something called a laser peel, which 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: would not recommended. That's what it says on the website. 52 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: So that place that we were not mentioned. Yeah, I 53 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: said to Kate, did you could you smell your skin burning? 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: And she's like no, So god knows what we It 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: was honestly like having a tattoo removed. It was that 56 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: kind of thing. It was very like each freckle was 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: selected by this laser. This was I mean, it still hurts, 58 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: so it kind of felt like a hot fry pan 59 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: being put on my face. But as soon as they 60 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: moved it from the area or it didn't hurt as much. 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: I love the fact that they also had a nurse 62 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: in their holding your hands. Oh my gosh, we went 63 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: to it was very much like, oh, this isn't even painful, 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: and it was literally like they were pouring fire on 65 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: your face. Yeah. Well, I would highly recommend Malvin Dermatology. 66 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: I think that's what it's called. This is not sponsored CLUI, 67 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: but they were just so lovely. I just really love 68 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: the dermatologist there where he says, like, why do you 69 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: keep going on about her? It's like I love her 70 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: to do about first world things. I love my dermatologist. 71 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: Worse experience of my life. Oh, worse experience of my life. 72 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: That's really dramatic. Worse experience. We're dealing with a brand. 73 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: Georgie Stevenson has revealed a deal with a dream brand 74 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: turned into the worst experience of her life. So during 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: an episode of Georgie's podcast Rise and Conquer, she was 76 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: asked by a listener what happens if you manifest something 77 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: and realize you don't actually want that thing. It was 78 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: quite funny because Georgie is like, now I've been waiting 79 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: for an excuse to tell this story on the podcast, 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: and this is the perfect one. So she said she 81 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: couldn't name the brand or go into specific She did 82 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: actually name the brand to her podcast host, but bleeped 83 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: it out. So basically, at the start of twenty twenty one, 84 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: Georgia hired a partnership manager and they came up with 85 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: a vision board of all the dream brands that she 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: wanted to work with, and she ended up choosing this 87 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: big brand that she thought aligned well with her, but 88 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: she never expected to actually partner with them. So it 89 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: turned out that this brand actually ended up approaching Georgie, 90 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: and initially things were going well. They paid her her 91 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: going rate, there was no discussions of a discount or 92 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: anything like that, and Georgie thought that she had manifested 93 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: the whole thing. However, she ended up saying that it 94 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: was the worst experience of her life because apparently the 95 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: brand were really controlling about the content she produced and 96 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: were really difficult to deal with, and she said it 97 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: was a very unpleasant experience. Must have been bad for 98 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: her to say it was the worst experience of her life, 99 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: I know, And she said that basically it's taught her 100 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: the lesson not to make up vision boards about brands 101 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: to work with, because she said she knows now it's 102 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: not about the specific brand, but about more the connection 103 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: and authenticity. Why are you laughing? I'm just laughing because 104 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: I remember at school, well at UNI, sorry, learning about 105 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: vision boards and it just cracks me up, just because 106 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: I know that Georgie's all into that sort of stuff. 107 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: But it's sort of like the power of it. I 108 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: should never put it on the board. Don't put on 109 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: the board LL come true? Should we make one now? Like? 110 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: Should we make one with just lots of money on 111 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: the board? Is that how it works? And all the 112 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: things that you want. I don't think you meant to 113 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: just put money on there. I think I've seen them before. 114 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: You can put money. Actually, I saw one on the 115 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: Bling Ring, did you Yes, I saw it and it 116 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: was so great and it was just all thes like 117 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: cut out dollar bills and then like fake slogans. Yeah. Anyway, 118 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: do you believe in vision boards? Well, I think that 119 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: it's more around the goal setting. So if you have 120 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: something in mind, like I really want this car or 121 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: this house or whatever, like, I think it makes you 122 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: more driven to actually achieve that. I'm not your plan. 123 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: It's not like magic or anything. No, I think it 124 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: reminds you why you'll continue to do something. I think 125 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: they're fine, but I just found it funny how it's 126 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: like better not put it on the board. Yeah. So 127 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: back to this brand. I have been trying to work 128 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 1: out all day who the brand is because Georgie said 129 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: the brand Notoriety was comparable to Quantus, but clarified it 130 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: was not the airline. So I did a bit of 131 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: a stalk of Georgie's page. Now she has ruled out 132 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: some brands because she still has ongoing partnerships with them. 133 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: She said it's not Pedal and Pop, it's not LSKD, 134 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: and it's not the collab. She said she loves working 135 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: with those brands. She's actually got her own active where 136 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: launch with LSKD coming up. Could it be Lorna Jane Well? 137 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: So a lot of people were dming are saying, Oh, 138 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: I think it's Jim Shark, And at first I was like, oh, 139 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: it seems like it could be because she ended her 140 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: ambassadorship with Jim Shark in June twenty twenty one, and 141 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people were asking her, like what happened 142 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: with Jim Shark, and she confirmed in the comments on 143 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: one of her posts saying maybe in the future, I 144 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: am no longer an exclusive ambassador with them, made some 145 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: changes since getting pregnant, all on good terms with Jim 146 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: Shark and still have a great relationship with them. So 147 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: it seems like she was almost inferring. I'm not sure 148 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: if this is the case, but that Jim Shark didn't 149 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: want to work with her since she felt pregnant, So 150 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: I would feel like you'd have a bit of bad 151 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: blood if that's actually okay. But the thing is in 152 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: regards to whether this is the person that the brand 153 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: that she's talking about. She's worked with Jim Shark for 154 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: so long y she's only recently got the new brand. 155 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: That's where it doesn't work out. So I thought possibly 156 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: it could be Lorna Jane because they're a very iconic 157 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: Australian brand. I think they could. I mean, I don't 158 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: know if they've earned as much money as Quantits, but 159 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: I think they're pretty comparable. There were some other brands 160 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: also were quite big brands, so it was Coca Cola, 161 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: Porsche and also GHD, but Georgie is still working with GHD, 162 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I'm guessing Laurna Jane. Again. This 163 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: is just a guess. Nothing against Lorna Jane, but we're 164 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: just trying to put it all together. It kind of 165 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: does make sense because she said it was a brand 166 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: that really aligned with her as well. I just want 167 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: to put it out there. We have no idea what 168 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: brand Georgie is talking about. This is all pure speculation. 169 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: It's not to say that any of these brands have 170 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: done the wrong thing, but it is interesting that Georgie 171 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: does have a collaboration now with LSKD and is launching 172 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: her own active wear. Yeah, it's the perfect time to 173 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: give a bit of a burn, isn't it someone who's 174 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: done the dirty on you. I used to come in 175 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: every day and look for his number on the course sheet. 176 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: It was number seven, and if his number was on 177 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: the cour sheet, it was an extra exciting day. Tom 178 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: Felton has revealed some juicy details about his feelings for 179 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: Emma Watson in his new memoir Beyond the wand Amy, 180 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: Can you tell us more? So? I can't believe the 181 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: book I called that. Yeah. So, there's been a lot 182 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: of interest in this story online because for years Harry 183 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: Potter fans have shipped this relationship, so they've dubbed it Dramoni. 184 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: I know you guys are massive Harry Potter fans. I 185 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: think you pronounced that wrong because it's Hermione dremione tremiyone. Sorry. 186 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: I never really shipped this relationship personally from a Harry 187 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: Potter fan. I more liked the relationship between Ron and Hermione. No. 188 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: I liked it because I feel like Tom Felton and 189 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: Emma Watson are sort of like the hot ones from 190 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: Harry Potter. They're kind of mean, mean to Ruper grinn Well, 191 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he's particularly hot, but anyway, he's kind 192 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: of cute. He was cute, but they're kind of like 193 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: the cool ones that are Or is it more that 194 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: she seems like the good girl and he seems like 195 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: the bad People like it. But Emma Watson has spoken 196 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: in the past about having a massive crush on Tom 197 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: Felton as well. So this was during filming of The 198 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: Philosopher's Stone, only eleven years old. I was on TV 199 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: the other night and I did have a bit of 200 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: a cringe because they look so young and they were 201 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: like eleven, So she was eleven and he's two years 202 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: older than her. But she said that she used to 203 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: follow him around like a puppy who was desperate for 204 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: his attention. And I don't know if you guys remember this, 205 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: but back in twenty nineteen, the Internet literally went into 206 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: meltdown when photos are of Tom and Emma hanging out 207 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: at his house in Venice Beach, and there was a 208 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: photo which showed him teaching Emma how to play the guitar. 209 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: I remember this. We spoke about this in one of 210 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: our very early episodes. Please don't go back and listen 211 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: to it. No wait, I didn't add as well, she 212 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: was in her pajamas, so it made it very Yeah, 213 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: so were they together? What does he say about it 214 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: in this book? Well, in the book he said that 215 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: he has had a secret love for Emma Watson over 216 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: the years, and he said that they're both kindred spirits 217 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: who formed a lifetime bond after meeting on the set. 218 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: But we don't want to know if your kindred spirits 219 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: want to know if they banged on all? Oh, well, 220 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: I think they have reading between the lines. Well, he 221 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: has said in the book that he's always loved and 222 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: admired her as a person, and he could never quite 223 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: explain it to anybody else. He even admitted in a 224 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: candid passage of his book that his girlfriend at the 225 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: time knew that there was something unspoken between the two. 226 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: He did go on, however, to say that he's had 227 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: a secret love for Emma, though not perhaps in the 228 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: way that people might want to hear. He said that 229 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: there's not as if there's not been a spar but 230 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: it most definitely has been at different times. It feels 231 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: like it's sort of this nostalgic thing, sort of like 232 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: a primary school romance, but there's never actually eventuated into anything, 233 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: and you've always got a soft spot for that person. 234 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: I read that differently. I read it as well, when 235 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: they're both single and they see each other, because they 236 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: might not see each other all the time they're off 237 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: doing the different projects, there's a spark there and they 238 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: may hook up. I took it more as they've had 239 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: crushes on each other growing up, but each one has 240 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: always had a boyfriend when the other girlfriend. When the 241 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: other one has been single. Well, I found it funny 242 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: because Tom also spoke about the first time they met, 243 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: and apparently Emma was eleven at the time and she 244 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: pointed to a boom mic in the room and asked 245 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: him what it was, and he responded saying, it means 246 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: they're recording us. Obviously, it seems like that very childhood 247 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: crush where you mean to the girl that you like. Well, 248 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: it blew my mind as well, because apparently there was 249 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: this Slytherin Click happening and all the actors would spend 250 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: time basically being the kids that you would assume they 251 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: were in the books. They was smoking, listening to rap music, 252 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: being naughty and that's just so slitherin, isn't it. It is? 253 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: And but Emma Watson was basically hermione. This is according 254 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: to Tom. He said she was a bit of a 255 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: goody goody and apparently one day she'd organize this dance 256 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: that she wanted all of the actors to come along 257 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: and see her doing the inner change room and that's written. Well, 258 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: they put out this message and yeah, that's what Tom said. Basically, 259 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: all the Slytherin Click thought it was so cringe and 260 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: all they did was snigger the whole time. Look, I'm 261 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: not blaming them, I feel like that would be very cringe, 262 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: just almost like come to my dressing room and watch 263 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: me do an interpretive dance. It is her for TikTok, 264 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: But apparently they were so rude that the makeup lady 265 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: had to step in and be like, you guys need 266 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: to shut up. I think what's added more fuel to 267 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: the fire is the fact that Emma Watson has written 268 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: a foreword that is four pages long in Tom's book. 269 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: In it, she refers to Tom as her soulmates. So 270 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: it reads, you may know that person in your life 271 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: who makes you feel seen, that person who is somehow 272 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: or witness to all that unfolds, That person who knows, 273 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: really know what is happening to you and what you're 274 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: going through without anything having to be said. For me, 275 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: that person is Tom Felton. Like Tom, I always struggle 276 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: to explain to people the nature of our connection and relationship. 277 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: For more than twenty years now, we've loved each other 278 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: in a special way, and I've lost count of the 279 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: times people have said to me, you must have drunkenly 280 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: made out just once, you must have kissed, there must 281 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: be something. But what we have is far deeper than that. 282 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: It's one of the purest loves I can think of 283 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: where soulmates, and we've always had each other's back. I 284 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: know we always will. It makes me emotional to think 285 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: about it makes you emotional. Just wait till the Dramoni's 286 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: shippers get a load of this. Wow, it's pretty big 287 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: to call someone your soulmates so publicly like that. Surely 288 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: she's not in a relationship at the moment. She is. 289 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: She's got a new boyfriend. So his name is Brandon Green. 290 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: They were something a fake name like Rachel Class. So 291 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: they were spotted in August in Venice holding hands. And 292 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: Brandon is from a very wealthy family. So his dad 293 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: is the chairman of a group which owned retailers such 294 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: as top Shop and Miss Selfridge. And in twenty fourteen 295 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: he was named Tattler's top ten single billionaire. Do you 296 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: like the name? What about Tom? Is he seeing anyone? No, 297 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: he's currently single, but he has been sliding into some 298 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: celebrities DM slithering in he has slytherin. So one of 299 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: those was twenty three year old US YouTuber Olivia Jade, 300 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: and he slid in with a pretty interesting message. What 301 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: do you guys think? It said something to do with 302 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: snake and Harry Potter. Would you like my wand or something? 303 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: He wrote, Hello, mate, dig your work. But he ended 304 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: the message with a snake emojih and Olivia had no 305 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: idea what he was talking about because she hasn't seen 306 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Harry Potter. So she was telling people and they're like, oh, 307 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: but it's referencing Slytherin. I don't know how I feel 308 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: about him referencing Harry Potter. It's a bit pathetic. It's 309 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: a bit of a dick move. Really yeah, I mean 310 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: I would love it because I love Harry Potter. Obviously 311 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: hasn't gone down well with this twenty three year old. 312 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: It's like Daniel Radcliffe doing the line in Bolt Symbols 313 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: lay Well. Interestingly, following on from our podcast last week, 314 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: Olivia is actually dating Nate Jacobs from Euphoria, who we 315 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: spoke about that he hooked up with Lily Brown. God, sorry, 316 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: Tom Felton. I don't think you've got much chance. I mean, 317 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: I think he's pretty cute, but I don't really rate 318 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: Nate Jacobs that much. Maybe it's his character that put 319 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: me off. I've only watched half of season one of 320 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: You four. You've got to watch him in the photo booth. 321 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: He was very sweet in that I saw celeb Spelchek 322 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: put up a post today saying that in I think 323 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: it was twenty fourteen, he was to the best dressed 324 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: at the races. I feel like manifesting and manifestation as 325 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: a whole has become so mainstream and people don't actually 326 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: know what it is and how to do it. Mitch 327 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: Third has opened up about the downturn of his business 328 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: following his split from Talia Scaines Amy I'm dying to 329 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: hear the details. Yeah, So Mitch was interviewed on personal 330 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: trainer Danny Kennedy's Fitness and Lifestyle podcast, but he didn't 331 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: about fitness and lifestyle. He spoke all about business. So 332 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: it's pretty evident from Mitch's Instagram and TikTok that he 333 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: wants to be taken more seriously in that space. And 334 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: I think Dan Kennedy is a friend of Mitch's. Yeah, 335 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: I always think of Dan Kennedy as my own personal 336 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: training because I do keep it cleanest fitness program on 337 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: his mind class. He actually appeared in our podcast in 338 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: the early days as well. It was nice enough to 339 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: come on when we didn't have many so I did 340 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: he like, I don't think I was doing the podcast 341 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: that was when it was just Amy and I on 342 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:33,119 Speaker 1: the artwork. So back to Mitch. He has two businesses. 343 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: One is a drink bottle line called Third Fix and 344 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: the other is called Authentic Collection, which was formerly known 345 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: as Third Fix Collection. So this is the apparel line 346 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: he used to own with his then girlfriend Taliascaines. I 347 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: love that it took me so long to realize that 348 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: it was called Third Fix because his last name is 349 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: Mitch Third. Yeah, I think this is when I didn't 350 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: know that that was his last name. Well, what's really 351 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: interesting is Mitch revealed that in the brand's first release 352 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: since he split from Talia, he lost over twenty thousand dollars. 353 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: Are we shocked? No, Well, he said he wrongfully targeted 354 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: the collection at women, not realizing that they were just 355 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: fans of Tarli. How did you not realize this? The 356 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: thing is, I'm supposed he's come out and said this 357 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: publicly because, as you mentioned, he's involved in this legal 358 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: staut with Tarlia over this particular brand, because he's just 359 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: gone and done a little bit of a dirty and 360 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 1: changed the name and sort of been like, oh, this 361 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: is this, this is all allegations. So what Tarlie has 362 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: claimed is that Mitch allegedly OWESO hundreds of thousands of 363 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: dollars and that he's barred her from all bank and 364 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: social media accounts. So it is a bit of a 365 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: bizarre move to then publicly say that the business has 366 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: lost so much money since Tarlia has no longer been involved. 367 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: Do you think it has anything to do with the 368 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: fact that Tarlia's fans have sided with her and don't 369 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: like the fact that she's been cut out of it, Like, 370 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: do you definitely? Do you think if it had been 371 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: more amicable they might have actually supported this brand. I 372 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: think it's because there are influenza apparel lines that will 373 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: do well just because people like the influencer. And as 374 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: you say, like Mitch Third, he's got a small following, 375 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: but people aren't following him to buy cluits that look 376 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: like anything anyway. But it shows the power of Talia 377 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: being in the tracksuit. It's not just the association of Taralia, 378 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: it's seeing how great it looks on her. And I'm 379 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: just so surprised that he would be so silly to 380 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: think that females will be buying these clothes. It was 381 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: also a terrible name, authentic collection, it's because he's being 382 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: more authentic. So in this podcast, I find that that's 383 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: like that actually sounds so inauthentic. Well, he spoke a 384 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: lot in this podcast about his meditation and his morning 385 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: routine and it was all very woo woo. He seems 386 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: totally into all of that stuff now. And he was 387 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: saying that this authentic collection, the new line is going 388 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: to be based off things he's interested in. So I 389 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: don't think that's much better, but it's going to have 390 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: like branded things about like meditation. Is he friends with 391 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: Mitch All because I think Mitch had a lot of 392 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: success with his range of merchandise when he was doing 393 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: those beach mornings. The thing is, I wouldn't be trying 394 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: to tout myself as this big business guru and then 395 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: put out on these podcasts that I couldn't even see 396 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: the glaringly obvious spec I don't think it's targeting it. 397 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: I think I think he's done it though, because he's 398 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: mentoring a lot of business people, and the thing with 399 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: having a business is you're always going to make mistakes 400 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 1: along the way, but you learned from them. And I 401 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: know it was probably a silly move to release the 402 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: clothes aimed at women when Tarlie is not involved. However, 403 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: he has had a lot of success with Third Fix 404 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: the drink bottles. They're actually a really good idea. I 405 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: think he should just stick to the drink well. One 406 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: other interesting point that Mitch revealed was that he actually 407 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: turned down a professional rugby contract to go traveling with Talia. 408 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: This was about five years ago. I think that's a 409 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: bit of flex Like, surely if that was your dream, 410 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: you wouldn't turn it down just to go traveling like 411 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: you're traveling the old you were saying that you know 412 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: it was all meant to be, And it's led him 413 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: on to own Third Fix and that kind of thing. 414 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: But I was pretty surprised that he would turn down 415 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: a professional football It might have just been a rookie 416 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: or something, though, who wouldn't want to go traveling instead 417 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: on a free trip. Apparently the rugby team was based 418 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: in Camber, and he said that also weighed into his decision. Billy, you, billy, 419 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: we've already told me off. Let's move on. You're tacking 420 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: a heat now. This isn't actually a joke, but Balenciaga 421 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: has actually created a lays potato chip handbag. Have you 422 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: seen this floating around? Yeah? You sent it to me, 423 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: and I was so confused. I thought it was saying 424 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: the disparity between chips in different stores. I mean, not 425 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars four dollars. My eyesight's so bad. I 426 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: thought it's at eighteen dollars. So this lays potato chip 427 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: handbag reportedly costs one thousand, eight hundred dollars, so a 428 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: little bit different to your normal bag of chips that 429 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: costs around four dollars. Now, the leather handbag is decorated, 430 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: as I said, like the iconic packaging, which it just 431 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: looks like a bag of chip, and it's lined with 432 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: a silver zip closure, and it may it's sort of 433 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: debut on the runway at Paris Fashion Week. A lot 434 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: of people didn't realize because it sort of can fold 435 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: up like a crumpled bag of chips under the model's arms. Sorry, 436 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: I think this is the Empress nude clothes. What is 437 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: this about? Well, basically, Diet Pritor pointed out that Balenciaga's 438 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: creative director was spotted at another fashion show back in 439 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: June with his with a big bag of laser potato chips, 440 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: and he spotted just carrying them around the show and 441 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: on the red and on the Red car. But so 442 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: people assume that maybe that was the inspo for this bag. 443 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to be sinister here and always think badly, 444 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: but do we think this is instead maybe a targeted 445 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: collaboration with lays, because well, yes it is, because Layers 446 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: have shared it on there, so of course it's it's 447 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: a collaboration with layers, but they would have had to 448 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: approve it it's on their social media. I just feel 449 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: like they're not actually making that many of these Balenciaga bags. 450 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: They're purely making it for a bit of an Instagram 451 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: meme that everyone's sending around. Even now we're talking about 452 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: the chips that I want them. Balenciaga would not be 453 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: making this as a joke. I mean, they've made a 454 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: lot of fucked up but not a joke. But I 455 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: think that they wouldn't be bringing out many. I don't 456 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: think your average Joe blow on the street is going 457 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: to buy one of these bags. It would be interesting 458 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: to see how it goes, because I mean, I keep 459 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: feeling like lace chips, That's what I'm saying. Very clever 460 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: it's good for the Chip brand, That's what I'm saying. 461 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: It's oney eight hundred quite cheap for a Balenciaga bag. Look, 462 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: I can't say that I've actually ever bought one. I 463 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: did think it sounded a little bit cheaper than I 464 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: thought it would be. I mean I meant for more 465 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: of a you know, classic Balenciaga bag, not your lays 466 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: Chip bag. Isn't it funny because people always say that 467 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: if you're thinking of making a designer purchase, you should 468 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: always buy something that's timeless and will last. Can you 469 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: imagine someone spending their money on this. You would literally 470 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: wear it out once and then never use it again. 471 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: It kind of seems like something in the Kardashians we 472 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: photograph with, because I think it seems very why two 473 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: k ish, like very garish. It's almost going to be ironic. 474 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: I feel like someone like Kim Kardashian, who's lost a 475 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: lot of weights looking very slim, is going to be 476 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: having this lazed chip. It's funny. All you know, everyone's 477 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: talking about how sadly the thin look is all coming back, 478 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: and he and she, Yeah, we're going to have skinny 479 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: models walking around with a pretend bag. Of potato chips. 480 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: I just hate all of this naughty's vibe that's happening. 481 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: Everything just looks awful. I stepped into a shop the 482 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: other day, a clothing store, and everything was so bright 483 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: I needed sunglasses. Well, I actually don't mind some of it. 484 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: It is nostalgic, like I liked seeing. I know it's 485 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: probably more nineties than naughties, but like the butterfly clips 486 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: and some of the cool stuff, I think it's what 487 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: you actually wear it though. No, but there's the thing. 488 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: I went into a shop and there were all these 489 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: little girls in there, and I'm like, this is an 490 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: adult shop. I think that just shows that you're old. 491 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: Now maybe a little girls like they're probably like sixteen 492 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: to eighteen. They were there was was she was about? 493 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: It was actually exactly sports Girl. Oh well I think 494 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: girls are allowed in Sports Girl. Yeah, there was like 495 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: an eleven year old looking at face products. Yeah, that's 496 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: kind of normal. Now. The thing is, so you're thirty three, 497 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: like maybe you shouldn't be in Sports Girl. Hey guys, 498 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: I am Anatheta kings North and I'm Saffron Barker, and 499 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: welcome to our brand news Spotify Original Podcasts sex Lies 500 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: and dm Slides. A podcast feud has kicked off between 501 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: some of the UK's top influencers. This week, it was 502 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: announced that YouTubers Saffron Barker and Anastasia kings North would 503 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: be hosting their very own Spotify original podcast. However, it 504 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: seems the format isn't so original, with the show's old 505 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: host coming out of the woodwork. So what has been 506 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: going on? Well, listeners will know that we do have 507 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: a very soft spot for UK influencers, in particular Saffron 508 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: Barker and Anastasia kings North. So for those who aren't 509 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: across the girl's content, they are YouTube veterans. They're both 510 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: twenty two now, but they started their channels as teenagers 511 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: and I think Anna was only eleven when she started hers. 512 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: Funny how you call them vetro in like twenty two. 513 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, when you're starting off when you're eleven, I 514 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: suppose that does make your YouTube veteran. So Saffron has 515 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: appeared on a bunch of reality shows in the UK, 516 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: including Strictly Ballroom, and she was rumored to date Love 517 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: Island's Luca Bish before he entered the villa, whereas Anna 518 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: is sort of on the other spectrum. She is known 519 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: for twenty four hour food challenges, eating a lot of McDonald's, 520 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: and her little brother Atticus. Now, when I heard that 521 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: they were starting a podcast, I was really excited because 522 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: whilst I do enjoy their content, I don't really feel 523 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: like they talk about what's happening in their real lives. 524 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: And it seems sort of that they're putting up this 525 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: PC content just in case kids are watching it. They 526 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: don't dive into what's going on. And they've both had 527 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: a go doing a podcast before. So Saffron used to 528 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: have a podcast with her mum and then I think 529 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: Anna Stage has had two different podcasts with friends, but 530 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: they've never really hit the mark. Well. I thought something 531 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: was going on because she did release a podcast with 532 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: her best friend Byron, and then they had like a 533 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: couple of episodes and then it just disappeared, So I 534 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: think that something was going on in the background. I 535 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: just assumed it was like most influence as he started 536 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: podcast and sorry this is a bit of a burn, 537 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: but don't realize how much work goes into it and 538 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: just drop off and you never hear them again. But 539 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: clearly Spotify have got involved and it's got a bit 540 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: more serious. Yeah. So the girls did announce this week 541 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: that their new podcast is called Sex Lies and DM Slides. 542 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: And when I heard the name, I was like, Wow, 543 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: that's clever. They've obviously got some big wig coming up 544 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: with the name for you. You didn't come up with that themselves. 545 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: And Saffron did announce the show on Instagram, explaining that 546 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: it's sort of like your front row seat to their 547 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: dating lives and they're going to talk about their crazy 548 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: dms and everything in between, so your typical dating show. Look, 549 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: I really hope that this is the case, because you 550 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: know when they're like, oh, we're going to talk about 551 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: all this stuff and then never actually share any juicy details. 552 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: It's just like, I know this friend of a friend, 553 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: here's other dating questions. I listened to the first episode 554 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: and they were spilling a lot of shit about Ray. 555 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: It's already out. I need to list and Saffron had 556 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: just been dumped. I did some deep dive. It's this 557 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: really hot guy from LA who was It was this guy. 558 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'll get into the juice of what's actually happened, 559 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: but it was this guy who looks like a Spanish model. 560 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: Clearly the biggest fuck boy who would never be in 561 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: a relationship. And she was having this conversation on the 562 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: phone with him, and Anna was sitting on the bed. 563 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: They were trying to work out what to say, and 564 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: they were so shocked that he didn't want to have 565 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: a committed relationship and he's in La and cheesy. Yeah, London. 566 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: I was very surprised. Yeah, you sent me through a 567 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: reel and said can you believe this is Saffron Barker's hookup? 568 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: And I was like sorry, what like he just looked 569 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: like a walking red flag, like very good looking. But 570 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: now controversy has erupted because the original hosts of the 571 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: podcast have come out and slam Spotify, claiming that their 572 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: podcast has been stolen. So what you're telling me is 573 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: Spotify have just taken this previous podcast name and then 574 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: replace the host with influencers. I mean, I know said 575 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: it was a great name, but surely it's not that good. 576 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: Well yeah, So the original hosts are a UK TV 577 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: chef called Guzzy and also a model and writer called 578 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: Sidney Lima. So they fronted the Spotify podcast called sex 579 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: Lies and dm Slide, So the same name in twenty 580 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: twenty and also twenty twenty one. So whilst Gizzy said 581 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: that Spotify did pay for the production of the podcast, 582 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: she claims that they had nothing to do with the 583 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: concept development, any of the creativity or research that went 584 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: into the show's inception, and she said that the IP 585 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: belongs to her and Sydney and Gizzy said that it 586 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: wasn't a situation where they were cast by Spotify. They 587 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: created the whole concept and Spotify just financed it and 588 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: distributed their podcast out to the community. I'd be very 589 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: interested to see the contract that they signed, because I 590 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't think that Spotify would be as brazen as to 591 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: do something like this and then incur some kind of 592 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: legal bat well. She did hit out on Instagram, so 593 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: guzse Re shared Saffron's announcement, posted it on her feed 594 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: and wrote, I am shocked and horrified to learn that 595 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: mine and Sidney Lima's podcast Sex Slides and dm Slides 596 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: that we made with Spotify UK is being made again 597 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: without us. That's fine. If Spotify didn't want to make 598 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: it with us, then that's fine, but do not steal 599 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 1: our format and name. We created it. The format and 600 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: the name in my kitchen over a series of months. 601 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: Spotify just paid for it to be made. I am 602 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: absolutely up to my fucking eyeballs are being exploited by 603 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: big corporations and money people a show not just built 604 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: on us exposing our sex lives and abuse, but made 605 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: with documentary integrity and intelligence. This, as everyone can see, 606 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: is daylight robbery. I am not blaming the girls Anastasia 607 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: or Saffron who have almost definitely been caught up in this, 608 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: but I would ask them to hold Spotify accountable for 609 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: this as it's gross. Fuck. We are so angry and upset. 610 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: To add insult to injury, Spotify has taken down mine 611 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: and Sydney's show. If you want to help, maybe right 612 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 1: to Spotify. I'll find out how. Now. Her post received 613 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: four thousand likes and over four hundred comments now. Sidney Lima, 614 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: the other co hosts, also hit out at Spotify. She 615 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: shared a quote on her Instagram story which said businesses 616 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: that use creators' ideas without crediting them at damaging their 617 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: own brands. I was intrigued to see whether Saffron and 618 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: Anastage would come out and say something. They do have 619 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: their own platforms. It could be easy for them to 620 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: put out an Instagram story and comment on it. Look 621 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: to be honest, they've probably been advised not to say 622 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: anything because if they start commenting, the story just gets 623 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. Yeah, that's the thing. They haven't publicly 624 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: commented on it at all, despite the fact that it 625 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: is quite large in the UK. There's a lot of 626 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: press around this at the moment, so much so that 627 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: a spokesperson for Spotify had to come out and address it. 628 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: They said, at Spotify we take intellectual property extremely seriously, 629 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: sex slides and DM slides. Scott, I think I've said 630 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: that fifty Times Now is a wholly owned Spotify original podcast, 631 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: inclusive of name and format, and we look forward to 632 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: watching the show continue to evolve. What do you think 633 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: about this, Well, I think it just shows that you'd 634 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: probably need a lawyer to look over a contract if 635 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: you are signing with a big business, be it Spotify 636 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: or any type of business that you're sharing your IP with, 637 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: because it seems to be that perhaps this is legit 638 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: and the girls may have unknowingly without having professionals look 639 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: over the contract, sign the IP over to Spotify, particularly 640 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: if it's a Spotify original. While I do feel really 641 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: sorry for the girls, the thing that I'm a little 642 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: bit confused about is whether that concept of a dating 643 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: podcast is really that unique. I feel like every influencer 644 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: and their dog has a podcast giving dating advice and 645 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: talking about their dms. Also, in this case, because Anastasia 646 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: and Saffron are big influencers, people are tuning in to 647 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: hear about their lives, so it's all about what's happening 648 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: in their data. It's a bit sus that Spotify have 649 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: taken down the original version of the podcast, like I 650 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: suppose they own it. Yeah, but if it was still up, 651 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: we would be able to make a better comparison of 652 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: whether the podcast format well is the same. The original 653 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: Instagram account is still up, I assume because the girls 654 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: own it, so it's got four point two thousand followers, 655 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: and it described the podcast as a podcast discussing sex 656 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: and love in the age of social media. I suppose. Also, 657 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: because Saffron and Anastasia have only just dropped one episode, 658 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: it's unclear what the format would because the first episode 659 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: was them just talking about themselves. I think they're going 660 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: to interview people along the way. I mean the fact 661 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: that the name is exactly the same, Like I don't. 662 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean, as you said, it's a catchy name, but 663 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't know why they just wouldn't have changed it, 664 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: just changed the name. It's not worth this. The other 665 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: thing that I didn't like the Spotify did was they 666 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: didn't even have enough respect to tell Gizzy or Sydney 667 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: that they were recasting. They only found out about it 668 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: when the girls started posting about the podcast. Yeah, well 669 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: that's pretty bad. I mean, that's obviously alleged from Gizzy 670 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: and Sydney. So it would be interesting to see actually 671 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: what went down when the podcast finalized its second series 672 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, like what that discussion looked like 673 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: and how that contract works, because again, it's really hard 674 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: to make a comment when we don't know what the 675 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: contract said. Okay, one thing I did find out listening 676 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: to this podcast with Anastasia and Saffron was all about Raya. 677 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: So apparently Sean Mendes is on there. Oh really Yeah, 678 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: so Anastagi just stumbled across Shawn Mendes and then she 679 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: said that she went to screenshot it and send it 680 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: to a friend because she completely forgot that Raya has 681 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: this policy that if you screenshot, you're usually kicked out, 682 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: but I think everyone has a first warning, so she 683 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: received a warning for it. But it made me think about, 684 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, on I think it was celeb spellcheck or 685 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: one of the influence of the updates pages when someone 686 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: shared that Sammy Robinson was on RAYA and everyone's like, 687 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: oh my god, who screenshot it? They would have been 688 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: kicked out. Apparently you get one go at it before 689 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: you get kicked out. The thing is, couldn't you just 690 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: get your friend's phone and like take a photo? Yeah, 691 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: screen like, there's ways around that kind of screen show. 692 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. Well, I think that is 693 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: all we have time for today. We hope you all 694 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: have an amazing weekend. 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