1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Get a. I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: and professional overshaer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week I'll interview 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows, 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Right. Oh, 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: we have a fellow Aussie on the pod today, Monte Franklin, 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: stand up comedian, writer, actor. I'm going to say director 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: as well. Very lovely human, very grounded, down to earth, 10 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: all the things the qualities we love about. Ossie's has 11 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: been living out here in America for ten years now, 12 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: really building a a pretty incredible career for himself, and 13 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: he's open about the good days, the tough days, and 14 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: to you, Ozzie's he's actually about to come back to 15 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: Australia and tour so Sydney, Perth, Adelaide Brizzy Malbs from 16 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: July Friday, July twenty eighth is his first gig and 17 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: then he's gigging all the way until August the twelfth, 18 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: ending in Malbs, his hometown. So I'm gonna have a 19 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: link to the I was about to say a link 20 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: to the show notes in the show notes. A link 21 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: to the tickets in the show notes. Get behind Monty's 22 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: a legend and support him, but also listen to this 23 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: f if you are into not necessarily stand up comedy, 24 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: but as a creative, you might be a writer an actor. 25 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: I know Matt would love this. Who's a composer, like 26 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: anybody with the creative dream. I think you're gonna love 27 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: this episode. Monty talks about the great the determination, and 28 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: kind of like, I like this. He talks about the iceberg, 29 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, like and really what we see when we 30 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: see people that are successful, we just kind of see 31 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: like the tip. We don't see all that extra hard 32 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: work underneath the iceberg that goes into that ten percent 33 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: of success that you see. So I hope you love 34 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: this episode. I really hope it inspires you the way 35 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: it has inspired me. And Monty, thank you so much 36 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: for jumping on the pod. You're a ripper of a 37 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: human MATEO U just say whatever you want. Oh that's 38 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: a good start. Welcome to the Pod. Monte Franklin, Hi actor, writer, 39 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: stand up comedian. Oh, triple threat mate, how long have 40 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: we been talking about doing this long enough a year. 41 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I live in the San Diego and you're 42 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: up here or in Australia, so to try and connect 43 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: those things down the four h five? 44 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: Are you kidding? 45 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: This is true? Did you get stuck on it today? 46 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I knew that I was going. 47 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: To It's Friday, though, I feel like that happens on Fridays. 48 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: Well, everything happens on Friday, the traffic does for sure. 49 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: Right right, Okay, So I am so excited to like 50 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: unpack a bit of your career, and I'm really excited 51 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: that you're about to tour Australia. So for everyone listening 52 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: at home, hang in there because we're going to talk 53 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: all about it. 54 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been six years since I've been back 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: to time. 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: That's wild. But first of all, when I did cross 57 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: your path in the Flesh, even though we both worked 58 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: on the Circle, probably ten years ago, no longer fifteen 59 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: years ago probably, yeah, and you were the crowd warm 60 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: up guy. 61 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: I did crowd warm up. It was so much fun. 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: That was the start of my stand up career. 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: They were good audiences, the Circle audiences, well. 64 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: They were really fun and it was a steady gig 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: for a young comedian. I don't think I was two 66 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: years into doing comedy. Oh wow. I that would be 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: my advice to anyone who started comedy, trying get yourself 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: into a crowd warm up scenario if you can, because 69 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: I did. Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Oh yep, 70 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: I did the circle. 71 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: I did. Eddie's mate. He's still I still talk to him. 72 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: He's such a good guy. 73 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of controversy around Eddie, but 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: he's been nothing but lovely to me. 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: Oh well, I've not heard too much bad stuff, but 76 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: I've heard good stuff. But I will say if I 77 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Americans will be like, oh, I'm meeting my icy friend, 78 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, say lock it in, Eddie. I always tell 79 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: them say it in it because I feel like all 80 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: Assies know that. 81 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yes, that's a good one. That's like a 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: not happy jam or yeah. 83 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: The other thing Americans can't get their head around is well, 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: we're recording this podcast in the arvo. Oh, the Americans 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: are like, what do you mean? 86 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's very difficult to try and explain AVO 87 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: and Avo as an avocado and try like the differentiation 88 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: between them. You could even say I'm having an AVO 89 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: in the AVO and they go. 90 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: What you know what I mean? But yeah, I don't 91 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: know who says that. 92 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: Some people would, some people would so okay. But last year, 93 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: about a year ago, somebody sent me something about you 94 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: and was like, this Aussie guy's filming like his own thing. 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: They need extras. Oh I ended up as an extra. 96 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Well I had an idea for a short film. 97 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: And I've done a lot of things where there's been 98 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: a lot of money involved, or there's been you know, 99 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: Channel seven or whoever I've done stuff with, and I 100 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: had this idea for something, and I thought, I just 101 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: want to make it myself and make it cheap and 102 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: see if I can. Because sometimes they're like, well this 103 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: will cost twenty thirty. 104 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 3: Then I'm like, I don't think it does. 105 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 2: So I put out a thing just on Facebook consider 106 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: if there's any Aussies that want to be part of 107 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: this and have some fun in the afternoon the AVO 108 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: as they say, and yeah, you came out and about 109 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: twenty people came out and we've shot this little thing. 110 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: I got to send it to you. Actually, yeah, I 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: just you know, I haven't sent it to anyone. I've 112 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: just been so busy with a bunch of other stuff 113 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: that I finished editing it. 114 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: I did it all myself. 115 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: I edit it myself, and I'm I wrote and directed 116 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: and I was in it, and I wanted to brush 117 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: up on my editing. So that was a big part 118 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: of why I wanted to get back into doing a 119 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: premiere pro and I'm glad I did, because you kind 120 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: of forget all those little little bits and pieces, but 121 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: then when you get back on it, you're like, oh, 122 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: this is fun. 123 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: I like editing. It's enjoyable. 124 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: I've never been on that side of it, but it's 125 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: so smart that you do it because then you can 126 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: create your own content. 127 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: Of course, well that's it. And even if you are 128 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: getting someone else to do it, at least you know 129 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: what's going on. So if you go into an editing 130 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: suite and they're like, well you can't, and you go, yes, 131 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: you can, because I know you can, or you know 132 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: that that's that and this. So I like knowing just 133 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: a little bit about every facet of production, filmmaking and 134 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: stuff like that, just so I know what I'm talking 135 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: about basically totally. 136 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: And also I think like, if you've directed at written 137 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: at and then you're acting. You were the lead in it, 138 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: like you're going to know what the good takes are 139 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: and what they're so good takes are. 140 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes a lot of time though, Like eating 141 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: that short that was ended up being three minutes, like 142 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: there's so many of the different takes, and you. 143 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: Go, is it better if the eyebrows like that or that? 144 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: And it's really can I say it was actually really 145 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: nice to watch you because like, first of all, I 146 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: think I'd been in LA for like getting on six 147 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: months straight, like I hadn't been back in astraight, and 148 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: I was kind of missing Aussi's by that stage, and 149 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: it was like a whole room of Ozzie's obviously, and 150 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: they're loud people, you know when you kind of miss 151 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: it and like it all the time, like that real 152 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: grounded just like there's no filter. I don't know, I 153 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: really like that. But it was really cool to watch 154 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: you in real time in the moment, like You'll be like, no, no, 155 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to run that again. I'd like to run 156 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: that from there, like so you would you were self 157 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: editing while shooting. 158 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a there was a lot running through 159 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: the head to be honest, it's a it's a it's 160 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: a lot to also be directing while acting, having written 161 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: it and stuff. But it's also nice because it's your 162 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: vision and you're not trying to fulfill someone else's vision. 163 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: And in your head you go, okay, quickly that that 164 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: angle that I thought was going to work didn't work. 165 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: Let's see if we can fix it by doing that 166 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: and try that, and then you sort of navigate around 167 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: yourself having no one to answer to, which is nice, 168 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: but then there's no one to blame things on if 169 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: it doesn't work as well. 170 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: I imagine sometimes getting like the non biased is kind 171 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: of cool to where someone will be like, no, no, 172 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: that take was crap. This one is good. Yeah, it's 173 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: hard when you're in it because you see it like, yeah, 174 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: I find it hard when I do new headshots, I'm like, 175 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: just send me the best five. I don't need five. 176 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to look at myself that many 177 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: times and think, yeah, that's weird. When you look at 178 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: headshots too, isn't and what you think is a good one, 179 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: everyone else says, no, this is the good one. You go, 180 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: but that's not how I see myself. Yes, it's very 181 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: but that's a better version of yourself in general, which 182 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: is it's hard to wrap your head around. Sometimes I've 183 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: done that with head I hate all the headshot stuff. 184 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: That's probably the thing that I hate most, which is 185 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 2: strange because I stand on stage with a bright light 186 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: and a microphone and everyone look at me. But I 187 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: don't like people looking at me. 188 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: No, no, I feel like they're true. They feel like 189 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: two different things. So can I ask? So like, obviously 190 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: the writing, the directing, acting, but then also being a 191 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: stand like I have done improv training. I remember like 192 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: day one, class one, I was like, fuck being a 193 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: stand up comeding. I was like, this is petrifying. I'm 194 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: also a control freak, so I was like that feeling 195 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: of constantly being in the moment and constantly falling potentially 196 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: was too much. I was just like, this is like 197 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: for me. I was just like, this is not my 198 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: skill set used to best ability like and it made 199 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: me have respect. 200 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: I think it's a certain breed of person to do that, 201 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: because I wouldn't consider myself the funniest person that I know, 202 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: even in my friendship group. I think some of my 203 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: friends are funnier, but they couldn't get on stage and 204 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: do the way that they are funny. 205 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: Does that makes sense. 206 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 2: I got some really quirky friends and they alway say 207 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: the funny thing or they've got a funny view on something, 208 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: but they can't deliver it on stage in that kind 209 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: of format. So it's a very different thing. It's public speaking, 210 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: which everyone hates. They say that's the number one fear, 211 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: you know. But I started when I was twenty. Twenty 212 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: years old is when I first started, and so I 213 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: think when you're twenty you're a little bit invincible and 214 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 2: think fear less. You can Yeah, you can get through 215 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: a lot more. 216 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: I think. 217 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: I think if I started later, I would have been 218 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: more self conscious and been like, I don't want to 219 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: have this pressure. But at twenty and stuff, you're just like, oh, 220 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: this is interesting and fun. And then before you know it, 221 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: you know, it sinks into your skin and it becomes 222 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: a it's not an obsession, but it's definitely a part 223 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: of you. Yeah, and if you don't do it for 224 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: a while, there's part of you that's really not getting 225 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 2: its creative output and it's flow. And then when you're 226 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: in it and doing show after show, night after night, 227 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: and stuff, you're in a different frequency and it's really 228 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: really fun. 229 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: I think like a muscle too, like the chops that 230 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: you build, like the more like definitely not to draw 231 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: a parallel between you and Ed Sheeran. 232 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, a lot of people do I do I do? 233 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: He has not. He has not made the parallel. 234 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: No, there's an incredible documentary out of it. At the moment, 235 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: it's phenomenal. He said, I can get up on stage 236 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: because as a kid, and when he was younger, he 237 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: was like I was, So I built the confidence to 238 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: know that I can entertain people just because I've done it. 239 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: So it's like exposure therapy, like I've done it so much, 240 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: and I've also kind of like fallen flat on my 241 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: face so many times that now I'm just like, I know, 242 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: I know I can do this thing. 243 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think you realize that the falling flat on 244 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: your face is not as bad as you make it 245 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: out in your head, So the terror of that goes away. 246 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: It's still there. 247 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: You don't want to look stupid, but you know that 248 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: it's not going to end here you or bury you, 249 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: or because that is the fear that you were talking 250 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: about in your first improv class, thinking oh no. 251 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: Like that. That part of it goes away. 252 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 2: But the part that doesn't go away is I don't 253 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to struggle up there because it's not fun. 254 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 2: I did show last night that was kind of a 255 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: struggle and afterwards I was just like, I got some bits, 256 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: like some positives out of it. But it was at 257 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: a venue that comedy shouldn't have been out. I shouldn't 258 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: have been there, to be honest, and it was no 259 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: one was paying attention. It was in a rowdy bar 260 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: and stuff, and I went, oh see, I did that, 261 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: you know, twenty years ago when I first started, and 262 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: it was a good breeding ground and a good training place. 263 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: Australia is a very good training place for comedy. Really well, 264 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: I tell you why because Australians are very much like well, 265 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: Americans will allow you to entertain because they're used to 266 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: entertainment and they're like, oh, this person's entertaining, let's sit 267 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: and listen to them. 268 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: Australians are like, oh, you think you're funny, do you? 269 00:12:58,800 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: Let's see? 270 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: You know, so you have to win them. Yeah, that's 271 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: a bit tougher. But when you win them over, they 272 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: love you forever and they go he's all right, and 273 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: then you're in. So it's kind of a nice I 274 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: can handle any situation now, and I'm tipping the British 275 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: way of starting stand up comedy is very similar to 276 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: because of the British sensibility of being so similar to us. 277 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: But any sort of situation that arises in America, I've 278 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: been through ten, twenty, thirty forty times. I know it, 279 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: so it's like, all right. So last night I knew 280 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: it was going to be rowdy, people weren't listening and 281 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: stuff to so do not take it personally if the 282 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: jokes that I knew were good weren't hitting, but to 283 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: try and sort of get what I wanted out of it, 284 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: which was I was trying out a few new jokes 285 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 2: and to see if they even made the logical sense, 286 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: and they did so afterwards I was like, Okay, that 287 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: was good. 288 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: But it didn't feel great. 289 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 2: It's not like doing a full Like I just did 290 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: a run in Denver, my favorite place in America to 291 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: do comedy, and all the shows were sold out and 292 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: everyone was excited, and that you feel on top of 293 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: the world. But that's the game that I signed up for. 294 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 2: It's a huge rollercoaster. As you know, it's what anything 295 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: it entertainment is. 296 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: Well, I do public speaking as part of my job, 297 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: but nutrition, right, and if it's an if it's ever 298 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: an event where it's a breakfast, I know I'm screwed 299 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: because they're all worried about their poached eggs and it 300 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what I'm saying on stage. 301 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I won't go on stage if they're eating. 302 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: It's so hard. It is so and all you can 303 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: hear is like four. 304 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: That was just that. 305 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: It really gets in your head and oh mane and 306 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: then I can only imagine throw comedy into well. 307 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: I learned very early on from a great comedian called 308 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: Dave Grant from Australia. Passed away about ten years ago, 309 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: but he rang me and gave me a ton of 310 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: advice before he passed away, which was a lovely thing 311 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: for him to do. And one of the major things 312 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: was he said, control the room that you were in 313 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: and not being controlling in the room that you're in. 314 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: But just say to them, this won't work. Because people 315 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: think that comedy works in any environment. They're just like, oh, 316 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: just get up and do it, and they go no, Actually, 317 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: the audience needs to be darker than the person on 318 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: the stage. They need to be lit up. They need 319 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: to be able to hear from every seat. They can't 320 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: be distracted by food or waiters walking around and stuff 321 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: like that. There's things if there's a gap of more 322 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: than about fifteen feet between the performer and the first 323 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: row or something, it won't work. There's too much of 324 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: a disconnect. It's very small stuff. 325 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: So it's quite intimate right for that. The way you're 326 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: talking about like being close to the audience. 327 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to be in a conversation with the audience. 328 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: You can't be projecting something from the other side of 329 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: the room and think that it will land and connect 330 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: with people. Comedy is very, very much about connection. It's 331 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: a reciprocal flow from the performer to the audience back 332 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: to the performer and it's almost like breathing, like to 333 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: them back into you and stuff like that. If there's 334 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: too much of a disconnect or there's distracting things or TVs. 335 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: A lot of Australian shows I did with the tab 336 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: still going on in the corner of pubs just distracting 337 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: and ding ding ding or whatever's going on. So yeah, 338 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: there's a lot there's a lot more into it than 339 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: you would think. And that goes for all public speaking. 340 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: And every time I'm at a wedding or something and 341 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: they're about to do speeches, I go, oh, can I 342 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: just get and I could just put them over there 343 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: and there and trust me on this, because I get 344 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: all like nervous or something that it's not going to 345 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: work because people won't listen. How many times have you 346 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: been to a twenty first speech or something and no 347 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: one can hear Yeah, because no one knew, Oh, you 348 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: probably should have just stood over that side of the room, 349 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: or you should have stood on a chair anything whatever. 350 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: It is so smart. 351 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: You're right about it being I'd never looked at it 352 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: that way because I've especially since being in LA like, 353 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: I've witnessed and gone and seen comedy shows and the 354 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: moment the ones that I always love are the ones 355 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: where I feel like I'm seen in the comedian. It 356 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: shares vulnerability, like. They're the ones where I'm like, oh, 357 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: you've got me, like I see myself in you. 358 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: But that's what that's what comedy is that connected it 359 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: is it's giving you a view of the world that 360 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: we all live in through my eyes. So that you 361 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: can connect and go, like, you might not actually connect 362 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: with the exact thing I'm saying, Like you might not 363 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: have a dog if I'm talking about a dog or something, 364 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: but you go, oh, but I've got a cat and 365 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: that works with me, and like, so there's there has 366 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: to be the connection. And that's why I think, I mean, 367 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: the best comedians in the world are the ones that 368 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: really tap into their personal life stories and give you 369 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: a little glimpse of it, but enough so that you 370 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: can relate your life to these stories as well. Family 371 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: comedy stuff like that. I'll tell you people who talk 372 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: about politics and stuff like that, there's not one comedian 373 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: in the world who's selling out stadium. So you think 374 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: about every comedian that is selling stadiums out is family comedy. 375 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 2: It's talking about their their life relationships, their family, their husbands, 376 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: their wives, their partners, whatever it is, their dogs, their cats. 377 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 2: It's it's family related stuff. It's more relatable. 378 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: Because all we're all like, yeah, I've got that version 379 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: of that in my life. Yeah, so makes sense. Yeah, so, oh, 380 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: there's so much I want to talk to you about. 381 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: But when I first got back to LA I was 382 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: watching all this I don't know if you know this, 383 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: but when you move back somewhere, the algorithm flips and 384 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: you were all the stories I was getting for a while, 385 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: like you were the first story of my day. I 386 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: would have come back to LA and I was on 387 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: similar times down't you Oh? 388 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: And then it says, oh, you're here. You want to 389 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: look at this stuff? 390 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: Correct? Correc So you were touring with Rob Schneider. 391 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: I think, yes, I do a lot of shows with Rob. 392 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: Still you do you guys have? I feel like this 393 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: is a very long relationship. 394 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, probably ten years something like that. 395 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: And you're on his show right the Netflix. 396 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: The Netflix h two seasons of Real Rob. 397 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: And I've been in three of these movies now, and yeah, 398 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: I mean he's been a mentor and a friend and 399 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: a you know, he sang at my wedding. 400 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: He's my mate. 401 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: So and we do a lot of work together and 402 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: I still go out on the road with him. And 403 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: he's doing bigger shows now than he ever has. He's 404 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: selling big theaters out, which is always fun to go 405 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: and do those with him. 406 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: So how important do you think it is having like 407 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: a mentor like that, like somebody that's doing the stuff 408 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: you love. That's kind of like, hey, like not necessarily 409 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: like mentoring, but like you're getting to witness somebody like 410 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: obviously he's also had an incredible career as an actor 411 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: as well. 412 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't know. 413 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 2: I like, I want to say it's invaluable, but not 414 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: everyone has that opportunity. So I don't want to say 415 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: that you can't do it without it. Because comedy in particular, 416 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: you think about acting or anything like that, you're probably 417 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: not going to be in a movie with your favorite. 418 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: Actor, are you, like straight away? 419 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: Definitely not straight away? 420 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: No, it's straight away. 421 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: In comedy, you might be the opening act on a 422 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: bigger bill where your favorite comedian is the headliner. I 423 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: got it so when I was younger, and I would 424 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: be in the room with and back when I started, 425 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: Dave Hughes and Jim Owen, and like I loved all 426 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 2: these comedians, but I was in the room with them immediately, 427 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: and so you can learn a lot from them straight away. 428 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: And so I'm not saying that you need to have 429 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: a mentor like this, but it I think in every 430 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: facet of life, in business or whatever you do, if 431 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: you can, if you can find someone who's been through 432 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 2: it before and they're willing to share with you, then 433 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 2: it's invaluable. 434 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: I even think though, like if say you've got like 435 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: someone that's like an All Star or your hero, you 436 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: can now because pods, interviews, YouTube you can usually do 437 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: a bit of deep diving and be like, oh, I 438 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: like the way their brain works on that thing, and 439 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: you can almost like you can, Yeah, you're right, soak 440 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: up their value system a little bit and learn Like 441 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: I've deep dive like people on podcasts and stuff. I'm like, oh, 442 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: that makes so much sense that that was their process 443 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: for that role. 444 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: Well you're smart, because that's a very good thing to 445 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: do with whatever you pursuit you're in is to look 446 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: at the people that have done it before and try 447 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: and make your own adjustments or observations from other people 448 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: and then go your own path because you don't want 449 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: to just follow someone else's, but to look at other 450 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: people like you you're saying is Yeah, that's definitely something 451 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: to do. 452 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: Particularly in comedy. 453 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: Question were you homeless? 454 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: Brian Gosling thought that was the end of the question, 455 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: Were you homeless? 456 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: Well, yes, that's part of the LA dream, is it not. 457 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: You've got to someone in LA they're like you have nobody, 458 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: Like they call America the Land of the Free, but 459 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: it's like it's the one place where you have to 460 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: like literally crawl your way like you have to do 461 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: the time. 462 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what weeds out the people who aren't. 463 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: Do you know why Australians have such a great name 464 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: here and have you noticed that we do in the 465 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: entertainment industry. 466 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: Because the ones that have made have stuck it out. 467 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: Because it's hard. 468 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't just come here as a bogan from Frankston, sorry, 469 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: anyone from Frankston and think that you can jump in 470 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: straight in without putting years and years of working. So 471 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: the ones that do stick it out and do get 472 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: their name out there eventually are tough, have gone through it. 473 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: So that's why. Yeah, it's not easy here, not easy 474 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 2: at all. And it's not like they hand anything to 475 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: you or anything's presented or there's a playbook to go, 476 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: oh okay, you meant to do that and that and that. 477 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: But you can find other Australians and there's some good 478 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: like the Australians in LA stuff and Facebook and all that. 479 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 2: There's good communities, but it's it's not not an easy place. 480 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: But I know it sounds very cliche and they say 481 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: it's a land of opportunity. It really is, because there's 482 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: so many different things that you can find yourself involved in, 483 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 2: Whereas in Australia it's it's smaller. It's smaller, so you know, 484 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: there's only so many people that can fit and do that, 485 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: and there's only so many people that fit in this 486 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: capacity and. 487 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: Stuff like that. 488 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: But here there's so much opportunity that you can you 489 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: can do commercials and you can do acting stuff, and 490 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: you can do short film stuff, and you can do 491 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: stage stuff and you can put your own one person 492 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: act on in LA and people will come out because 493 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 2: they're interested in it and stuff. 494 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 3: So there is there. It's a it's a. 495 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 2: Very interesting, hard place, but the opportunity and the excitement 496 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: is there, and it's kind of is kind of fun. 497 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: What feels more like home? Do you now? He being 498 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: here like being in America or being in I mean, 499 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: you haven't been home for a while. 500 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: It's a hard one because my wife is here and 501 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: we've got cats, and you know, I've lived here for 502 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: ten years and I guess I still I have always 503 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: been and will always be Australian and that's where my 504 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: heart is, and my heart's eating a parma and having 505 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: a pot of VB at the pub, and it always 506 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: will be. But my work, which is obviously a big 507 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: part of all of our lives, is all here. And 508 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: I tour around the I've been to forty two states 509 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 2: and I'm pretty much on the road every week of 510 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: the year. So that part of my life, which is 511 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: a huge part of me, exists here. But I think 512 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: everywhere I go I carry this just this. It sounds 513 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: like a dumb thing to say, but just a passion 514 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: for our culture and people. And I miss that, the 515 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: people of Australia, and when you go back and you 516 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 2: get that again. I missed going into the bakery and 517 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: the nice lady behind the counter saying what do you want, 518 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: dah and then you you know, you get a vanilla 519 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: slice or something silly, and then she goes, where what 520 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: do you do? And I said, I live in America 521 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: and this and this happened last time I was there, 522 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: as well, I'm bringing it up. 523 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 3: And she said, oh, now. 524 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: You be careful there, okay, doubt log And it was 525 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: just really nice and nice interaction and those kind of 526 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: people do exist here too, but it's it's just a 527 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: different thing. 528 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 3: It's a different it's a different Do you. 529 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: Know what someone taught me about Ozzie's being an Australian 530 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: living in America and it stuck with me. And she 531 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: lived here for ten years and loved it, and because 532 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: I said to her, I was like, oh, because I 533 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: think it takes while to find your feet in LA. 534 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: So this is my third year of spending massive chunks 535 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: of the year here and I said, gee, there's a 536 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: few fake people here. And she was like, you just 537 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: you haven't found your people yet, because she's like, when 538 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: you find your peap they'll be your friends forever and 539 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: they will have your back, Like the story I told 540 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: you about where I'm staying, Like I got scammed on 541 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: a house and I ended up having to have a 542 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: friend and take me in, and like, that's what a 543 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: gift for someone to be able to help you when 544 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: you were quite literally homeless. 545 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. 546 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: I think what we were saying before about the people 547 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 2: that stick it out, they're the real ones. The fake 548 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 2: ones are the ones that are here for that two, three, 549 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: four year period or whatever when they're and they're full 550 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: of it and they get weeded out. But the real 551 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: ones that are here for the long haul that they're 552 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: the ones that will be your, yeah, lifelong friends, because 553 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: they're in it together. We're all in this very hard 554 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: endeavor that we've decided to do. And then you meet 555 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 2: someone else who had the balls to do it, and 556 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: you're like, we're probably going to be mates because we've 557 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 2: got the same values and the same work ethic, and 558 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: the same drive and the same for things and passion 559 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: for movies or whatever it is. So yeah, when you 560 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: find those people, it makes here a lot easier because 561 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: the first three years, the first four probably difficult. But 562 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: my advice to you is, unfortunately you have to move here. 563 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: You can't do six months and six months because you 564 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: never actually. 565 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: Break through that yeah initial bit. 566 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I lived with a guy who still listened to 567 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: Triple J and stuff, and so he never really left 568 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: and dove in here completely, and you have to tie. 569 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: You can't say, oh, well, I can always go back 570 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: and earn that bit of money and stuff. 571 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 3: You've got to cut all that off. 572 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: I was doing that for a while because I had 573 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 2: more work in Australia than I did here, so I'd 574 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: always go all right, well, I'll be here for six 575 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: weeks and then I'll go back and do that two 576 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 2: week run of shows and then come back. And then 577 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: I eventually just had to cut it off, which was terrified, 578 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: and I didn't make any money for I don't know, 579 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: three years. 580 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: It was all, oh, yes, brutal, Yes, brutal, that's the 581 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: hard bit. Like you have a successful career in Australia 582 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: and then you come here and you feel like you're 583 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: literally people get angry at me when I say this, 584 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: but you feel like you're starting at zero. 585 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: Yes, it really does feel like that. Initially, Oh, I couldn't. 586 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: I couldn't go into comedy clubs here. They wouldn't let 587 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: me like just introduce myself. They would say, oh, you 588 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 2: have to buy a ticket and sit at the back 589 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: and buy and I'm like, what's happening? I had, you know, 590 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: I had some radio show in Australia, I had TV 591 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: shows and everything, and you just have to put your 592 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: ego to one site. You have to otherwise you won't, 593 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: you won't get through. And what I ended up what 594 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: I started doing was I would just take little such 595 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: a like a I don't know, vision board statement or something, 596 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: but I would take little positives from each night. So 597 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: I would go to a club and I would meet 598 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: another comedian and shake their hand and say him, go 599 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: that's enough. That's enough. You met someone and it was positive. Okay, 600 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: next night something else, and eventually it just you know, snowballed, 601 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: and before you know it, I'm on one of the shows. 602 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: And then I know that I can do it because 603 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: I've done it for ten years, So I do a 604 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: good job and then blah blah blah. Before you know 605 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: it builds. So you're not starting from zero because you've 606 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: got the skills behind you, but they all consider you zero. Yeah, 607 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: so it's just a matter of you busting through that 608 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: part of your ego thinking that other people don't think 609 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: you're great because you are great, but they don't know 610 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: that you're great, so assume that you're not. Yeah, so 611 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: you just break through that all and then then they go, oh, 612 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 2: who's this because you've got the skills to back it up. 613 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah that's great advice. 614 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was good advice. 615 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot that. Did you play our homeless Ryan 616 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Gosling on rob Trust? 617 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like the eighth episode of the first season, 618 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: so his wife when I first met them, Rob said 619 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: to his wife and he goes, I just met this Australia. 620 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: He looks like Ryan Gosling and his wife saw me. 621 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: And when Ryan goz almost. 622 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: Like because I like almost, I always say that I'm 623 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: hung over Ryan Gosling. So he's such a great So 624 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: when they wrote the things, she wanted to put the 625 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: gos almost character in there. 626 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: So yes, I played in the show. 627 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: Rob was lying to his wife that he had organized 628 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: Rob Ryan Gosling to come to her birthday party, which 629 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: he hadn't and he couldn't afford to get him. 630 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 3: And he's like, what am I going to do? 631 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: And he looked out and there's a homeless guy that 632 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: kind of looks like Ryan Gosling. So he cleans him 633 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: up and takes him to the party and I kick 634 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: over a table and ruin. 635 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: The amazing I saw this tiny clip and I was like, 636 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: I have to ask. I have to ask the other 637 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: thing I have to ask about because one of my 638 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: ultimate dreams is sitcoms. It's to the point that I'm 639 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: at sitcom school right now. 640 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 3: There's a sitcom school. 641 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: Yes, oh wow, I thought the sitcom was dying, which 642 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: I always love. 643 00:30:59,560 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: The sitcom. 644 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: I just I want the skill set. I want the training, 645 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: the two point five gags per page three like multiicam sets. Fun. 646 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: It is fun, but you. 647 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: The money isn't That was? That? Was that a pilot? 648 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: Was that? Sure? What happened? That was? 649 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: That was another thing that I self made make. 650 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: That because I know you wrote it and started right. 651 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was the main saying star makes. 652 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: You show for it. 653 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: It was still going out to Australians that go shut 654 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: up door. 655 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: So yes, I wrote. 656 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: And and produced and starred in this sitcom pilot. Yeah here, 657 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: and I crowd funded it. Remember when what was now? 658 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: I forgot what it's called? 659 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: What was the GoFundMe? 660 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: No, the other one. I did it on the other one, 661 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: whatever it was. It was very popular at the time 662 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: and everyone was like getting behind things and people were 663 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: awesome and I got I raised fifty thousand dollars by crowdfunding, 664 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: said I want to make a pilot for a sitcom 665 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: because I've always loved sitcom's my favorite kidding like Seinfeld 666 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: and Roseanne, and we had so many of the America. 667 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: Roseanne was on every night in Australia, so was Tim 668 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: the Tulman Taylor Home Improvement and I mean even back 669 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: with cheers and everything. Like, I've always loved the format 670 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: of sitcom as well. And there's a great thing on 671 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: Netflix right now about a sitcom. 672 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: It's awesome. 673 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: You should watch it. 674 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's all about sitcoms. And I watched it 675 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: on the plane the other day. 676 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: It was unreal. 677 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: So I wanted to make one easiest way put. It 678 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: was a man version of the Nanny Friend. 679 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: But Australian you say. 680 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and green card. Yeah. 681 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: And so the reason that I married this woman at 682 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: this wealthy Beverly Hills house was to get a green 683 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: card and blah blah blah. And it was a ton 684 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: of fun and taught me a lot about filmmaking, TV, 685 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: making anything whatever you want to call it and stuff. 686 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: It's all about building your skill set and stuff. So 687 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: that is what led to the movie that I'm doing 688 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: right now. 689 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: Let's I'll give you the quick rundown. 690 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: So I made that pilot for that TV show, went 691 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: out to a bunch of places here and it wasn't 692 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: right for anyone, which happens all the time, and that's fine, 693 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: and that's something you just have to go. Okay, I tried, 694 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: and I put a good effort in and it was 695 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: good and it was received well, but it just wasn't 696 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: right for the time. 697 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: The trailer is still on YouTube, by the way, it's awesome. 698 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 2: Oh really put it on YouTube. I don't know who 699 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: put that on there, but so, but what happened is 700 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: it got seen by one of the guys at Happy Madison, 701 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: which is Adam Sandler's company. And I had met Adams 702 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: through Rob and everything like that, but he got me 703 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: in separate to all that, not knowing that I was, 704 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: you know, sort of already friends with them and stuff, 705 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: and it didn't work out there, but it progressed to 706 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: the joke that I do about the Great Emy War, 707 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: which has now turned into the movie that we're filming 708 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: this year in Australia. 709 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: So the joke that you do I had. I had 710 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: to fully google this because I was like it because 711 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: this is a start off as because on inter it's 712 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: a real, right, it's real. It's on your TikTok as well, right, Yeah, 713 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: it's your stuff goes freaking viral. 714 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, something happened. 715 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 2: I got in this algorithm that you're talking about about 716 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: eight months ago, and all of my stuff so I 717 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: think that the Great Emy War joke that I put 718 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 2: on there has had almost thirty million. 719 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've had over a billion, all up right. 720 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: Well, that joke the laugh Factory put it on their 721 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: TikTok one and that one got a billion. 722 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: No, but they had to take it down. They had 723 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: to take their whole TikTok down, so it's not on 724 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 2: there anymore. But that one got all you know on 725 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: the on TikTok how they can do the duets, and 726 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: everyone was doing that with my joke and stuff. So 727 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: it went crazy. And so we myself, Rob Schneider, and 728 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 2: John Clees, very unknown young talented man wrote the film 729 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 2: for the Great Emy wore from the joke. 730 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: Three of you together wrote it. 731 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we lived. 732 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: In a house together in Scottsdale, Arizona for about six weeks. 733 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: We wrote the film and hung out and I had 734 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: dinner with John every night, and you know, he became 735 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 2: another one of my mentors and friends. 736 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 3: And I spoke to him this morning. 737 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: Actually, do you pinch yourself though? Like we were just 738 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: talking about how rough ala is at the start, and 739 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: like you did three years and making no money and 740 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: like just shaking someone's hand being a win and then 741 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: cut too. 742 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have to remind yourself of that or 743 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 2: you forget because you life still hard and there's still 744 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: you know, there's still ups and downs and stuff. And 745 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 2: then every now and then I have to go, Okay, okay, 746 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: you're getting you're getting complacent. Remember where you are right 747 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 2: now and who you're talking to, and you just got 748 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: a text from this person and blah blah blah. 749 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 3: So are you happy? 750 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 2: And you're like, yeah, yeah, that's pretty good, all right, 751 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: can't yeah, So yes, you do have to keep reminding yourself, 752 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 2: but it is it's pretty exciting to have to call 753 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 2: John Cle's a friend, to call Rob Schneider my mate, 754 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: to call Adam Sandler a friend. The fact that he 755 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: knows my name is one of the greatest thrillers in 756 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: my life. 757 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: I've heard. He's meant to be the nicest guy in Hollywood's. 758 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,959 Speaker 3: The truest person you'll ever meet. 759 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: You've seen the meme of him just walking around New 760 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: York City in a pickle. Have you seen it? 761 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 762 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: You know, I walked through the streets of New York 763 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 2: City at about one in the morning, just with me 764 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: and Adam Sandler and Rob Schneider and his longtime friend 765 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: John lochran the four of us through the streets of 766 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 2: New York because we just finished dinner and our hotel 767 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: wasn't that far away, and they said, we feel like walking. 768 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: There wasn't many people around, and I thought, I thought, God, 769 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 2: if we get attacked, I have to defend Adam Sandler, 770 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 2: like I love. 771 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: That's where the Aussie's brain. 772 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna have to fight for him. But 773 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: it was Robin and John the other two were talking. 774 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 2: So I was talking with Adam for about thirty minutes, 775 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 2: just walking through the streets, and and it was it 776 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 2: was so special because he's. 777 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: Part of my heroes. 778 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now I you know, when I see him 779 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: and he's he's you know, he knows who I am 780 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 2: and he's my friend. That's that's when those are the 781 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: pinch moments, yes, and you go, this is this is 782 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 2: as hard as everything has been and still is. These 783 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 2: are the moments that you really need to sit and 784 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: go wow, yeah, you know, yeah, this is this is 785 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: just really nice to to be part of the of 786 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 2: this level. Wow, you're kidding, It's it's it's really uh, 787 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 2: that's that's that's what we're all doing it for to 788 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: feel those moments. So I try and not skim over 789 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: them too much and go yeah, yeah, but I'm still 790 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: trying to do this and that and that and that. 791 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: Just go okay, but just enjoy this now, yeah, because 792 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: this is this is exceptional. I've had few of those 793 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: moments with sort of Adam and Robb and with Joe 794 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 2: Rogan over the. 795 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 3: Years and stuff like that. 796 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, and going on his pod, I can't believe, 797 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: right before you hit record to the listener, what did 798 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: you say to me? 799 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: I've done two. This is my second podcast. The first 800 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 2: one I did was Joe Rogan's. 801 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: That's not much pressure like that. That's good, Okay. So 802 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: the movie, that's one of the reasons you're going back 803 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: to Australia, right. 804 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we're doing a little bit of pre production stuff, 805 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: so I'm heading back and I'll be doing shows coinciding, 806 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 2: I think. Will let me bring up the dates. July 807 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 2: twenty eight, July twenty eighth, yeah, Perth August three and 808 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: then Adelaide August four, Brisbane August five, and Melbourne August twelve. 809 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: And you're ending on home, right, You're a Melbourne boy, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 810 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: which means I have to ask you which AFL footy 811 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: team do you go for. 812 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 3: You're not going to like the answer. Not my fault. 813 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: Well, I'm Melbourne born and bred. Like when I was born, 814 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: I was made an MCC member, like you know, you 815 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: got to put your name. 816 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm an MCC member. 817 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: I gave my my dad will. 818 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 3: Not actually I gave mine up too, I forgot, Yes, 819 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 3: we don't. I don't know. But now I'm a Collingwood. 820 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: Supporter and Bomber's mate. 821 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 3: Grand Final that was I was like, what was I? 822 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 3: I was seven years old and that was that was 823 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 3: the first. 824 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 2: Grand Final we'd won in twenty or thirty years or something, 825 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 2: so that was a big deal. 826 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 3: But yeah, I was. I was calling with all my life. 827 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 2: But then I'm friends with Chris Judd who played for 828 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: West Coast and Carton and stuff. So when your second 829 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 2: and once he started playing, I just followed him and 830 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 2: supported him because he needed my support. 831 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: Of course, into. 832 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 3: Terrible, terrible player. So I kind of. 833 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: Tom match though now that you will be back at 834 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: it'll be the season when you get back to Australia. 835 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 2: I mean I'm working the whole time. It'd be great 836 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: to get to one, but I think I don't know 837 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 2: if I'll get a chance. There's a lot going on 838 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: with the movie. And then I've got these shows and 839 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 2: without sounding like a Wayaneka, they're almost sold out. 840 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 3: So i think I'm going to add more shows. 841 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: So amazing. So I'm going to put in the show 842 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: notes to the listener the details for booking ossitions. You're 843 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: Aussie booking, Yeah, yeah, come out, it'd be great. And 844 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: if there are more shows, will you chuck them up there? 845 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll all be on. I'll put them on Instagram 846 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 3: and wherever. 847 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: So, speaking of the movie, is there any little can 848 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: you give us any little tip bit? Since this is 849 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: your second podcast after Joe, can we get any little 850 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: sneaky cast members anything like that. 851 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm starring at it, as you said, I'm 852 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: meant to be the star. And John Cleese is playing 853 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: my father, which is unreal. Rob Schneider's playing the head 854 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: of the Australian Army, which will just be downright hilario. 855 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 2: He's one of the best characters. 856 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: An Australian accent. 857 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 2: We're toying around with that now because the Australian accent 858 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: is very good. 859 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I had. 860 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 3: And as Australians. 861 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: We what we will what we will do is listen 862 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: and if it's good enough. 863 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 3: We'll go that's pretty good and accept it. 864 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 2: But if you if you know good and you sound 865 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 2: a little bit South African or Kiwi or anything, we'll 866 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 2: go no, that's crap. But if it's funny and enjoyable, 867 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 2: we'll allow it and go that's pretty good. Because I 868 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: don't know if anyone nails it properly. Very few people 869 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 2: have done it. I'll tell you the only person who 870 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 2: has is and forgive me forgetting her name, Baron Carter 871 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 2: or whatever. 872 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 3: Bow and Carter. 873 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: She was married to Tim Burton, Helen Helen and bow 874 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 2: and Carter. She did a movie. You should listen to it. 875 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 2: It's incredible, really spot on Australian accent, Like incredible. 876 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: Is it. I've heard Kate McKinnon do an Australian accent 877 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: every now and then with SNL ski. 878 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 2: Oh she'd be great. Yeah, she's fantastic. Yeah, but I 879 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: think Robert Downey Jr. Did it pretty good one in 880 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: Tropic thunder Action. Really yeah, it was pretty good. Okay, 881 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 2: like it's only a little bit, but it's a hard 882 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 2: one to do and we're very, very particular to allow. 883 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: It's so funny as well because you would know this too. 884 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: But like being in acting school here, the moment any 885 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: of my classmates have a veno, they would just like 886 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: tried their Australian accent and we'll have a bit of 887 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: like courage and I'll be like, m hmm. 888 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 2: It's awful. It makes me feel awful. I'm like, stop it, 889 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: stop what you're trying to do. And they say everything 890 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 2: slightly wrong. I got one friend he's American and when 891 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 2: I see him, he goes, hey bloke, and I go, 892 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 2: not right. You can't just say hey bloke, like it 893 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: has to be you're a good bloke or you're yeah. 894 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 2: You can't just say oh, he's a bloke. That makes sense, yeah, 895 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 2: but not hey bloke. 896 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 3: Very funny, you're slightly off. 897 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: Is there any any castman, so you've said the cast members. 898 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: Is there anything like if you signed on any big 899 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: Aussie or anything like that than your lovely. 900 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 3: Self Jim Jeffries. Oh wow. 901 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 2: I mean he's one of the biggest comedians in the 902 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 2: world right now. He's playing the mayor. And then Rhys 903 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 2: Darby he's Kiwi. But from Flight of the Concords, but 904 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 2: he is on and then I'm just going to say this. 905 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm allowed to and if I 906 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 2: get in trouble, but we signed Delta Gudrum. 907 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's got amazing acting chops. She's unreal like 908 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: I came out here for ages. 909 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she's fantastic and I think so she's playing 910 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 2: my fiance in the. 911 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: That's what I can see this. 912 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but that's very very exciting. 913 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: And then go down. 914 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of We've got some other people too, 915 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: but that was so good. 916 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 917 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: So you're going to shoot it all in Australia. 918 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, film, it's an Australian production. It's all happening there 919 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 2: and in Western Australia where it happened. So if anyone 920 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 2: doesn't know what I'm talking about. In nineteen thirty two, 921 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: the Australian government, this is a true story, went to 922 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 2: war with the EMUs. Yes, and there was twenty thousand 923 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 2: birds running through an area in Western Australia, tearing up crops. 924 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 2: So the army came in with weaponry and guns and 925 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 2: went to war with the EMUs. 926 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 3: And this is the best bit. I'm not making this up. 927 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 3: It's true. We lost so well more than twice. 928 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: But the. 929 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 2: Birds were too quick. They ran circles around the army. 930 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 2: They blew up a truck trying to chase them. They 931 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: So the whole story is about these soldiers who go 932 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 2: out to try and fight a war and look proud 933 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 2: of but just look ridiculous. But it's a very I'm 934 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: really really proud of this script. We've worked a lot 935 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: on it and I've had good people like John Clees 936 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: and Rob Schneider and Jim Jeffries helped us right too. 937 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 2: So is a it is deeper than just a silly comedy. 938 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 2: It's a heartfelt It's a story between a father and 939 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 2: his son. It's a family and it's really about adults 940 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 2: looking to the land and its inhabitants and learning a 941 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 2: better lesson than where they were heading. 942 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 3: And it's going to pull out your heartstrings. 943 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 2: It's going to be very I really want Australia to 944 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 2: be proud of this film. I think it's been a 945 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 2: while since we've had a film that we're really proud of. 946 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 2: I think something you know, how people love the Castle. 947 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 2: It didn't translate and do well overseas. But for us, 948 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 2: we love the Castle, we. 949 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 3: Love Red Dog. 950 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 2: You know, when there's these ones that just struck a 951 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: nerve and it's going to sit right in there with 952 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 2: a nice like Babe. 953 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 3: Babe was one of that people loved. 954 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 2: And as much as we think that we don't, our 955 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: culture ingrained in Crocodile Dundee still exists heavily in America 956 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,879 Speaker 2: and Steve and everything like that, So it sits right 957 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 2: in there with that. And what I've done for the 958 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 2: last ten years is do stand up around this country 959 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 2: and presenting Americans with the version of Australian that they 960 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 2: want to see, but also staying true to Australia and 961 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 2: what we're willing to take the piss out of because 962 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 2: there's a fine line between having fun and taking the 963 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 2: piss and going too far and being a dick. And 964 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: I want Australia to be really proud of this, but 965 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 2: I want the world to love and embrace it like 966 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 2: they have with some of the stuff that we've done 967 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 2: in the past. And I think we're due for another 968 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 2: hero and that's going to be the amazing. 969 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: How are you going to with them? You like even 970 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 1: us Reelmus like what's the point sun? 971 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 2: And then cgi we've got a great company called m 972 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 2: X two and they're coming on board and they did 973 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 2: all the stuff for Mission Impossible and everything, but they're 974 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 2: unreal So they're going to make this bird look just 975 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 2: beautiful and majestic. And we've got we've got an emy 976 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 2: farm in West Australia right now incubating a baby. 977 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 3: Our cast well to get a baby because the baby 978 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 3: is a. 979 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 2: Big cast member, so incubating and we're going to have 980 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 2: a couple of baby birds on set and stuff like that. 981 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 3: It's gonna be so much fun. 982 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I love it. So is it filming second 983 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: half of this year or are you filming next year? 984 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 3: No? 985 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 2: This year, so December will be the bulk of the filming. Yeah, 986 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: so that's why I'm heading over. And there's a lot 987 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 2: of pre production to do and meeting this person and 988 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 2: that person and then yeah, it's it's really really exciting 989 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 2: and fun. But like I said, there's it's it's tough, 990 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 2: very very hard. This is one of the hardest things, 991 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 2: you know, Rob Schneider said to me. He said, more 992 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 2: people have walked on the Moon than have written and 993 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: starred in their own movies, like decent budget movies, you know. 994 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 3: And I was just like, yeah. 995 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 2: Right, because you look it up and you go, I'll 996 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 2: take a look, and there's not many. So it's it's 997 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 2: very very difficult thing to try and pull off. But 998 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 2: I've got such great people around me and our producer 999 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 2: Robin Kershaw in Australia. 1000 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 3: She did remember looking for Ala Brandy. 1001 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: My favorite movie. 1002 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, to watch it at school and yes with. 1003 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: Me, So I just figured were only two years apart. 1004 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we studied and read and watched that. 1005 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 1: At that Bible that was Yeah, so. 1006 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 3: She did that. 1007 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 2: She did Kath and Kim, which everyone knows. So she's 1008 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 2: very very seasoned and professional. And yeah, it's it's really 1009 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 2: really fun and exciting and it's movie making. I've wanted 1010 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 2: to do that since I was a kid. My uncle 1011 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 2: was a director, That's why I've got this passion. 1012 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1013 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 2: He made Blue Lagoon, Yes, Yes, and a bunch of 1014 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 2: other He was a horror film director and he did 1015 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 2: a couple of Quentin Tarantino's favorite movie was one that 1016 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 2: my uncle did. So my uncle passed away and Quentin 1017 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 2: Tarantino wrote a letter for us to read out. 1018 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 3: His funeral stuff. 1019 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 2: So I used to go and watch my uncle on 1020 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 2: set and doing films, and go to Warner Brothers Movie 1021 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 2: World on the Gold Coast. My favorite was the backlot 1022 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 2: to her if it would take you and show you 1023 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 2: how movies were made in the sounds, and I would 1024 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 2: make my mum take me two three times and she said, 1025 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 2: can we do something else? 1026 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 3: But I was just obsessed with it. 1027 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: So to now be in a position where I can, 1028 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:41,439 Speaker 2: at the biggest level do what is fun is ridiculous. 1029 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 1: I'm so pumped for you. You are going to have 1030 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: so fun the best time. My final question is for you, 1031 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: and it's a very big question, so answer it. 1032 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 3: Having you will I co sign a mortgage for you? Yes? 1033 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: My question is like for like a young aspire inspiring 1034 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,959 Speaker 1: actor or comedian listening to this, like if you had 1035 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: like it's like that question, what would you tell your 1036 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: younger self, Like, you're now doing this thing that you 1037 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: have dreamed of for I imagine like twenty third like if 1038 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: you were doing that, if you were that but if 1039 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: you were that young, you know, like wanting to do 1040 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: that was. 1041 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,439 Speaker 3: The first movie I made. I was eight. 1042 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: There you go. 1043 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 3: I made it with Lego pieces. 1044 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: As you should, as one should I had. 1045 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 2: I bought the thirty friends from school came and watched 1046 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 2: the Lego film that I made. 1047 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: What was the theme, just Lego moving around. 1048 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,240 Speaker 2: They were gangsters, of course, and they robbed a place 1049 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 2: and then they went on a joy ride and then 1050 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 2: I can't remember what happened. It was probably it was 1051 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 2: probably written terribly by an eight year old. I think 1052 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 2: I had Snoop Dogg playing, which was popular at the time. 1053 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: Of course, of course it was. It was fun, just fun. 1054 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 2: I just think you always enjoy it with stop motion. 1055 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 2: So I took a picture of a thousand pictures and 1056 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 2: I'd sit there and it was just. 1057 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 3: Something I really enjoyed. But any advice I would give 1058 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 3: to just. 1059 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: A young person that's like, oh my goodness, this feels 1060 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: like an amazing dream. But it feels so like to 1061 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 1: get from like having a dream to now you're eping 1062 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: essentially your own movie. Yeah, Like, is it just like 1063 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: don't give up? Or is it like be around like 1064 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: minded people, because that seems like a theme from what 1065 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: you and I have spoken about for the last day. 1066 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: You've always been around people doing the thing that you 1067 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,359 Speaker 1: love in some capacity. 1068 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 2: It's hard to look at the final end result that 1069 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 2: you want and think that it's too far out of reach. 1070 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 2: So something that I've always thought was a good mentality 1071 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 2: to have is you just you make a plan and 1072 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 2: tick off steps along the way. Like I said, when 1073 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 2: I came here and I couldn't get in the comedy club, 1074 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 2: so I would get I'd go, Okay, I'm just going 1075 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 2: to go out and meet a comedian tonight and shake 1076 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 2: their hand. Okay, tomorrow night, I'm going to talk to 1077 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 2: three comedians and shake their hands and say high and 1078 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 2: just keep building because before you know it, you look 1079 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 2: back and go, oh wow, look at all this stuff 1080 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 2: I've done. But keep looking forward and keep going and 1081 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 2: pat yourself on the back along the way and enjoy 1082 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 2: it along the way. And I'm I don't listen to 1083 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 2: my own advice most of the time, and I forget too, 1084 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 2: but I have to go sometimes and go, Okay, that 1085 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 2: was really good. Soak that in for a second. Now 1086 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 2: move on and keep keep going and keep going. And 1087 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 2: it's you know what it's like. It's like running a 1088 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 2: marathon and then at the end of the marathon saying 1089 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 2: someone's saying to you, go and run it again. And 1090 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,919 Speaker 2: then you run it again, and then they say run 1091 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 2: it again, and then you run it four hundred times 1092 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 2: and people are actually trying to stop you running. Now 1093 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 2: that happens to people get in your way and they 1094 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 2: try and trip you up. Just keep running it, Just 1095 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 2: keep going and like things you think, oh oh my god, 1096 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm not getting any you are, but just keep going 1097 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 2: because like I said, and we talked about, the ones 1098 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 2: that last are the ones that are hardest, that will 1099 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 2: keep going at it. No one has overnight success. No 1100 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 2: one does, because it's the iceberg under all that work underneath. 1101 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 2: And you just saw the ten percent at the top 1102 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 2: and went they just know they didn't. No one does. 1103 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 2: And the ones that do fall off pretty quickly. Yeah, 1104 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 2: the ones that stay are the ones that have that 1105 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 2: that iceberg underneath be the iceberg. 1106 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: Oh what a legend you are. Thank you so so 1107 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: much today. And I know I've been talking about it prades, 1108 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: but I really appreciate you coming on and I'm so 1109 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 1: excited to watch this next chapter for you. Yeah, oh 1110 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 1: you good thing. 1111 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 3: Fun. Thanks for having me. It was a great mate. 1112 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: It's an honor, all right. By now, toodles, toodles, that's 1113 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 1114 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation 1115 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:12,919 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. This party my work 1116 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love 1117 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment and of 1118 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 1: course spread the love.