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Speaker 1: is indeed the week that was, and well an all

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Speaker 1: mail line up this morning. We've got Jared Mayley from

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Speaker 1: the COLP good morning.

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Speaker 2: To you, Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners from.

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Speaker 3: The Northern Territory News, Cam Smith's good morning to you,

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Speaker 3: Cam Morning Katy with me, and we've also got Duran

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Speaker 3: Young from the Labor Party, good morning.

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Speaker 4: To you, Good morning Katie, and our good morning. Two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there will be plenty, no doubt, I know that

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Speaker 1: they all enjoy the show. Now, Cam, I might just

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Speaker 1: move your mic up quickly, mate, well before we get

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Speaker 1: and clearly this morning, because there is plenty to discuss now.

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Speaker 1: First off this morning, we know that unfortunately there has

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the problem is here, Katie, is this

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Speaker 5: The people getting cast on cost their money. Businesses get

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Speaker 5: You know, that's how flag Staff policy. We've got to

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Speaker 1: I mean, is it trust though then when you like,

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Speaker 5: Because Laura already goes into the economy. People are hurting,

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Speaker 3: Well, look, we are going to have to take a

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Speaker 1: There is a lot to cover off and we are

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Speaker 1: We know that the president of the Northern Territory Police Association,

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's annual, but he is going to be saying

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Speaker 1: There are twenty nine frontline vacancies in the Greater Darwin

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Speaker 5: There's been in my time in government, there's been two

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Speaker 5: And I know Duran probably going to say, oh, this

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Speaker 4: Well, to say that we don't resource it, first, that's

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Speaker 1: We've got though at the moment, I mean, just a

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Speaker 3: And yes, the police did go out.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not sure if gran is calling the police

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Speaker 3: I'm just I don't think he said that's definitely.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Now there was ten years ago, so you know, Durana

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Speaker 1: Do at this point when you've got you know, when

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Speaker 1: So they're like they've put a figure to They've literally

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Speaker 1: some crew calling for you know, additional resources.

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Speaker 3: It's the actual Police Association.

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Speaker 7: It's not a name but.

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Speaker 6: Claim as you say, it's a defined figure. It's actually

445
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Speaker 6: a modest figure, two hundred extra police. It actually doesn't

446
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Speaker 6: sound that unobtained. Clearly that's the issue is actually the recruitment.

447
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Speaker 6: It just must be so incredibly complicated with another you know,

448
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Speaker 6: five six jurisdictions also trying to recruit police. But they've

449
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Speaker 6: given us a number two hundred. How many of those

450
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Speaker 6: will be remote, how many of those will be in

451
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Speaker 6: the sounds, But it's a it's a really good target.

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Speaker 2: Now that they've said how.

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Speaker 5: Many are leaving the nutrition rate, I understand it's like

454
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Speaker 5: an eleven percent, you know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Jerry, that's always been an issue with Katie.

456
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Speaker 6: You know that too, That the numbers game that's played,

457
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Speaker 6: it's a number.

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Speaker 1: I literally remember being on the phone to Labor Party staff,

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Speaker 1: as you know, when the CELP was in power, saying

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Speaker 1: we'll fee the numbers are low.

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Speaker 3: You know, they've said that it's this.

462
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, in the annual report it says this, it's always

463
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Speaker 1: an argument. But I've never seen I don't think a

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Speaker 1: situation where the association, you know, is going we are desperate,

465
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Speaker 1: like we are stretched beyond our breaking point.

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Speaker 6: Just with char restaurant shutting its doors in September that

467
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Speaker 6: because of Laura and order issues. One of the stories

468
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Speaker 6: that came out of that, and it's a again, it's

469
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Speaker 6: a number. It's part of this numbers game. But the

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Speaker 6: third day we're told on one night when the police

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Speaker 6: were called it. There are only three patrol cards for

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Speaker 6: all of Darwin and Parmeston. It doesn't sound like many,

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Speaker 6: you know, given sounds or the level of lawlessness that's

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Speaker 6: around at night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, particularly you.

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Speaker 5: Can remember the Labor gunment voted down the man presenting

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Speaker 5: for assault on police.

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Speaker 2: So we put that up. They voted it down.

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Speaker 5: So when you say the Labor government is supporting police,

480
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Speaker 5: there was an opportunity for them to support the police.

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Speaker 5: They voted it down. The police are saying there is

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Speaker 5: less numbers. Police morale is like police are leaving. It's

483
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Speaker 5: a real issue and it needs to be addressed. And

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Speaker 5: unfortunate Labor government seem sorry that.

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Speaker 7: Was a rushed legislation that you rushed it through.

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Speaker 2: Follow the process. Just can't follow the process.

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Speaker 4: And then hand in try and put through legislation without

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Speaker 4: going through a considered process. You know, it does take

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Speaker 4: time to make sure you get all the facts right

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Speaker 4: otherwise you have those unintended consequences.

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Speaker 7: Jared and you may you may want to come in

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Speaker 7: and in.

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Speaker 1: We are talking about parliament and some of what goes

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Speaker 1: on in parliament. The COLP leader Lea Fanoccuiaro has called

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Speaker 1: on the Chief Minister Natasha Fhiles to name the date

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Speaker 1: and time for an open debate of Samara Lavity's twenty

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Speaker 1: six thousand strong petition. It is obviously the petition for

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Speaker 1: Justice for Deckland Lavity and we did ask the Chief

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Speaker 1: Minister about this yesterday on the show. She said that

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Speaker 1: it is something that would be provided, that that date

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Speaker 1: and time would be provided. She hasn't given that date

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Speaker 1: and time at this point. But why do you think

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Speaker 1: that this why do you think that this is needed?

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Speaker 5: Jared, Well, Ultimately, you can see there's been people rallying,

505
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Speaker 5: crying out for change on the front steps of Parliament House. Now,

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Speaker 5: this poor fellow was illegally murdered by someone out on

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Speaker 5: bail at his place of work. So you know, a

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Speaker 5: young person goes to work thinking they're going to come

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Speaker 5: home and he doesn't come home. That is just an

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Speaker 5: absolutely traumatic event for that family and right across the

511
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Speaker 5: territory and people got up an arm. There's twenty six

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Speaker 5: thousand people that signed this and yet there's going to

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Speaker 5: be a sixteen minute debate at some time. Throughout the

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Speaker 5: labor the Labor government needs to listen to territories, listen

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Speaker 5: to what's going on in the community and let this

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Speaker 5: be an open debate. Let's talk about it, because that's

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Speaker 5: what people in the community are talking to me about.

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Speaker 5: And I am sure people in the community are going

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Speaker 5: into all the electoral officers and all the Labor members

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Speaker 5: and COLP members and the independent saying crime is out

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Speaker 5: of control.

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Speaker 2: We need to talk about it. Can you do something

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Speaker 2: about it?

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Speaker 5: And it's time for the Labor government to listen not

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Speaker 5: only on the crime effect but also on the economic

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Speaker 5: cost of crime, because it's hurting businesses and it's hurting families.

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Speaker 7: Well to say that when not listening is incorrect.

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Speaker 4: The petition was put, was tabled in Parliament and then

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Speaker 4: went through the Parliamentary Accounts Committee which was them passed

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Speaker 4: to be debated.

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Speaker 7: So we will be debating on this.

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Speaker 4: And you know that will come in in time with

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Speaker 4: one of the sitting dates in the future.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to commit though, to it being more

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Speaker 1: than sixteen minutes? I know that that is obviously the

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Speaker 1: way that it works. It was explained to us, you know,

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Speaker 1: Kesier period had explained that is you know, that's part

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Speaker 1: of the parliamentary business.

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Speaker 3: Is that's how long that debate.

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Speaker 1: Will happen, and that's not a rule that Labour's decided,

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Speaker 1: but would Labor actually go all right, we can see

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Speaker 1: that this is something that's a huge issue in the

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Speaker 1: community at the moment, more than twenty six thousand people

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Speaker 1: signing this petition. Let's actually debate this for longer.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, look that's the parliamentary process. It is only

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Speaker 7: sixteen minutes.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter for what what petition is put forward.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I can't change that. It's probably a

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Speaker 4: question for mister Speaker how that that that could be changed,

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Speaker 4: but it would be changed in the parliamentary processes.

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Speaker 3: Do you reckon it? Hulda, I can tell you not

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Speaker 3: just asked around. Do you reckon it?

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Speaker 4: Should be Look, it's going to be debated. We have

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Speaker 4: debated this top of the before as we also we

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Speaker 4: you know, the opposition have a day in Parliament where

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Speaker 4: they've brought you reckon.

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Speaker 1: They should have to they should have to to do

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Speaker 1: that rather than you lie, rather than being a government that.

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Speaker 7: The reality is, it's actually hindsight.

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Speaker 1: It's a really direct question that the community is saying,

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Speaker 1: like there's twenty six thousand people that as signed this

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Speaker 1: petition and I acknowledge that some of them might be

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Speaker 1: from interstate. But you've got the community saying we want

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Speaker 1: this to be debated.

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Speaker 3: We want it to have the.

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Speaker 1: Actual you know, like the justice that it deserves and

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Speaker 1: the discussion that it deserves. Why not when you guys,

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Speaker 1: like for both of you on both sides of Parliament,

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Speaker 1: it's your job to listen to the community. Why not

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Speaker 1: listen to the community and why not go do you

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Speaker 1: know what, let's put our parliamentary differences aside, or our

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Speaker 1: political differences aside, and let it actually make sure that

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Speaker 1: this gets debated in the way that the community expects

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Speaker 1: and deserves.

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Speaker 7: We are listening. You know, we've already tightened the bail laws.

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Speaker 7: We've tightened laws.

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Speaker 1: Around two thousand extra people sign that petition after you

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Speaker 1: made that announcement.

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Speaker 2: Six months.

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Speaker 5: There's no change. That's the recommendation. Ten thousand people signed

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Speaker 5: it after that. It's just you've got to listen to that.

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Speaker 7: Parliament.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to debate this petition for as long as possible.

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Speaker 5: We'd be happy to vote yes yes, four A to

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Speaker 5: debate it for as long as we could. And it's simple.

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Speaker 5: When now Durant said that it's up to the Speaker.

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Speaker 5: That's not quite correct. It's up to the members of Parliament.

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Speaker 5: Anyone in Parliament can suspend standing orders and the Labor

589
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Speaker 5: government do all the time. They've got the numbers, so

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Speaker 5: if they wanted, they can stand up and then Tasha

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Speaker 5: Files could stand up on Tuesday Wednesday. We have Parliament

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Speaker 5: suspend standing orders to be able to have this and

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Speaker 5: open debate for as long as it goes, as long

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Speaker 5: as every twenty five Members could speak on that if

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Speaker 5: she wanted to. But it's up to her and she's

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Speaker 5: got the power to do it, and they do it

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Speaker 5: all the time. Because this last week we did Matters

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Speaker 5: an urgency where the Tasha.

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Speaker 7: File spend sittings last mornings.

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Speaker 2: Where she suspended the standing orders. That can happen.

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Speaker 5: It happens on a regular basis, so there is a process,

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Speaker 5: it can be done and the Labor government have got

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Speaker 5: an opportunity to do it and will be interesting to.

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Speaker 6: Say about I don't think governments want to talk law

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Speaker 6: in order for two much longer than sixteen minutes at

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Speaker 6: the most.

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Speaker 2: Katie Territory isn't asking any government.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, Well, all right, we are going to

609
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Speaker 1: take a very short break coming your way next. Well,

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Speaker 1: there is a lot to discuss, but eleven thousand homes

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Speaker 1: over the next five years. Can the Northern Territory government

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Speaker 1: do it? In the studio with us this morning, we

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Speaker 1: have got Labours Duran Young, we've got cam Smith from

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Speaker 1: the NT News and we've got the.

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Speaker 3: Colp's Jared Maylee.

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Speaker 1: Now, yesterday we got some further detail from the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory Chief Minister following on from the National Cabinet meeting.

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Speaker 1: So the National Cabinet will announce that they are set.

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Speaker 1: The Prime Minister said that Australia is set to build

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Speaker 1: one point two million new homes in the space of

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Speaker 1: five years as part of this new plan agreed to

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Speaker 1: at the National Cabinet aimed at tackling the nation's housing crisis.

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Speaker 3: Now, I will just play for you a bit of.

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Speaker 1: What the Chief Minister, Natasha Files had to say on

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Speaker 1: the show yesterday.

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Speaker 8: From the Northern Territory perspective, we're focused on ensuring and

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Speaker 8: release for new homes to be built, as well as

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Speaker 8: going back and looking at where we can infill with homes.

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Speaker 8: Our numbers is ambitious. We're hoping to build eleven thousand

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Speaker 8: homes over five years. That is a stretch target, but

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Speaker 8: we absolutely need to make sure we have homes for

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Speaker 8: territorians now and people that we want to become territory in.

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, where are they going to be? Where is

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Speaker 1: that land really is.

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Speaker 3: Going to be?

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Speaker 8: So katie across the territory. So in the top end

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Speaker 8: we've got Holts and Kowandi land as well as I

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Speaker 8: just mentioned some infield sites. We've got Kilgarriff in Central Australia.

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Speaker 8: So there is locations where government is working to ensure

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Speaker 8: that we can develop land for housing. And what the

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Speaker 8: Commonwealth announced yesterday was incentive payments for homes that are

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Speaker 8: built as well as investment into supporting the headworks for projects,

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Speaker 8: so seeings such as water and sewerage and that works.

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Speaker 8: That's vitally important to get more land for homes.

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Speaker 1: Online, Chief Minister, I know you said eleven thousand homes

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Speaker 1: over the next five years is the target.

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Speaker 3: How many have we built over the last five years?

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Speaker 8: Okatye, we don't have the five years figure in front

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Speaker 8: of me. We average around one thousand homes a year,

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Speaker 8: but we did during the IMPEX construction phase extend up

651
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Speaker 8: to close to two thousand homes a year. There is,

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Speaker 8: of course worker shortages and the infrastructure to build homes

653
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Speaker 8: is a factor. But we're determined as a government to

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Speaker 8: do what we can do to boost supply so that

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Speaker 8: we have those homes right across the territory.

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Speaker 3: How on earth?

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Speaker 1: So we're going to build eleven thousand if the most

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Speaker 1: we've ever built in a year is too.

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Speaker 8: So Katie, that's over five years at eleven thousand year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but how are we going to do it when

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Speaker 3: we've got to work for shortage?

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Speaker 8: So Katie, we're determined as a government to boost that supply.

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Speaker 8: It's vital to grow our economy and for jobs to territories,

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Speaker 8: so there is incentives and there was also support from

665
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 8: the Commonwealth around those headworks that allow the projects to

666
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 8: come online.

667
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: So what do you reckon? Can we do it?

668
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Speaker 7: Of course we can.

669
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: Build up the economy.

670
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: Can we build it?

671
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: Yes? This is very welcome news that came out of

672
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: National Cabinet in Brisbane.

673
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 7: Was it yesterday or the day before?

674
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: A couple of years ago, so you know, the territory

675
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: Labor government, we do welcome this news which as we

676
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: heard that we're looking at eleven thousand homes over the

677
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 4: next five years, so you know that gives surgerty for

678
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: jobs for our businesses that are in that industry. But

679
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 4: you know, we'll be seeing forty four million dollar headworks

680
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 4: for Holts, twenty six million dollars headworks for subdivisions in

681
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 4: Catherine Eese, thirty one point six million dollars in Kilgarriff

682
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: down in Central Australia. So that will alleviate some of

683
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: the pressures that we have with people in the housing industry.

684
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: We do though, like industry insiders have said to me

685
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: that we've currently we're currently building about four hundred and

686
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: fifty private homes a year and another two hundred odd

687
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: each year, so that is six hundred and fifty you know.

688
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: Sort of at best, how we going to how are

689
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: we going to do it with the workforce we've got.

690
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 5: The figures I've got is that there was six hundred

691
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 5: and eight dwelling starts last year, so a few times

692
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 5: that out to the numbers, it's like about three thousand,

693
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 5: so we're seven thousand short over five years, that's seven

694
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 5: thousand houses. We already know that there's a crisis in

695
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 5: relation to trying to keep tradees here. Unfortunately, I think

696
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 5: this is like Labour's forty billions dollar economy.

697
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: It's just going to be a pipe dream. I'd love

698
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: to be able to get it here. No problems in this.

699
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: There should have been a.

700
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Speaker 5: Graphic example if labor would have started Widell which is

701
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 5: out in near Nunama.

702
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: You know there's the area out there.

703
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 5: Instead they're doing his infells around and holes in Kwundi

704
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 5: and then that sort of stuff. But if they're going

705
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 5: to have those real numbers of those that amount of houses,

706
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 5: and they should have started planning Wodell years ago and

707
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 5: they had the opportunity to do that, and they have

708
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 5: just dropped the ball again.

709
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 4: Well I'm sorry, but like we have been successful in

710
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: our housing program and a good exam to get seven.

711
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: Thousand miles in five years.

712
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 4: When you look at our government where we're built the

713
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: remote housing in Abiginal communities, I think between twenty twelve

714
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 4: and twenty sixteen you built one house in Abriage Keys.

715
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 4: We're building one house every two days, So we do

716
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: have a track record of.

717
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Speaker 1: How many have been built over the last year. Like

718
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: out in the remote regions.

719
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Speaker 4: I don't have those exact figures. I'd have to get

720
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: that from a housing minister. But like I said, we're

721
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 4: building it's on average about one house every two days.

722
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: Because I tell you, wash Cam and I have both

723
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: worked as political stuff as over the years, and I

724
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: worked for the Minister for Housing when we were delivering

725
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: sea hip and if there is one thing that you

726
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: don't do, it's you don't say exactly how many houses

727
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: you're going to build because you never live up to it.

728
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate, but it's one of those things where

729
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: it never bloody happens. You say I'm going to build,

730
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, two thousand houses over this period of time,

731
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: and you have a terrible wet season, you can't get

732
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: the staff, you have, this happen, you have that happen.

733
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: And it is all great in theory if everything goes beautifully,

734
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: but so often it doesn't. But like I think it's

735
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: great to have an ambitious target. I think it's excellent

736
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: to think we need to try and solve this housing

737
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: crisis that we've got around the nation. But I just

738
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: really wonder how it's going to happen. You know, if insiders,

739
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: industry insiders are currently saying, well, hang on a second,

740
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: this is a lot more than what we've done previously.

741
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 5: You're talking about these houses remoter and done remote regional areas.

742
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 5: Talk about how many houses have been actually destroyed and replaced,

743
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 5: So we're not talking about, you know, two thousand new houses.

744
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 5: We're talking about houses have been replaced. So there might

745
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 5: be you know, a three bedroom replaced by a four bedroom.

746
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: House, and I fully accept that.

747
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 5: But when you're talking about brilliant news houses, you should

748
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 5: also say, well, we're actually replacing houses, so we're not

749
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 5: actually making the housing stock bigger. We're just actually making

750
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 5: these houses livable for these communities.

751
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: That's one thing.

752
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: And the second thing is, even if you try and

753
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 5: get these people to come here to build houses in

754
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 5: the centers like Catherine and Alice Springs and Tennant and Darwin,

755
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 5: how are you going to get the people to come

756
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 5: up here and work when they're going to be victim

757
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 5: of crime? And if people are going to come up

758
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: here and be trades which would love to them up here,

759
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 5: are they going to come up when they know the

760
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: car is going to get stolen, or they can't go

761
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 5: shopping at cash arena, or they see thirty forty people

762
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 5: in the in the main street of Done it having

763
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 5: essentially a riot and someone armed with the barrow.

764
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: You know, I think you've got to keep like, you've

765
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: got to have a vision and you've got to keep

766
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: working towards it.

767
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: There is no doubt about that. And there's going to

768
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 3: be issue.

769
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: There's going to be issues no matter what you you know,

770
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: no matter what you do, or no matter which town

771
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: you're in, there's going to be different issues. I think

772
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: the biggest, you know, like the biggest concern for me

773
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: is you talk about how many homes have built. All

774
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: the chiefiness have touched on how many homes are built

775
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: during the IMPEX construction phase, and the workforce was booming,

776
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: the town was booming, you know, like there was so

777
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: much happening around the place. But we're not there at

778
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: the moment. So I do think trying to entice a

779
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: workforce into the Northern Territory right now, Like, I just

780
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: don't know how we'll go.

781
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: CAM.

782
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: I know you write a lot in this space, you know,

783
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: talking about business and the population and that kind of thing.

784
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts?

785
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 6: Well, I was out at Elko a few weeks ago,

786
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 6: and how was it out there, still being replaced from

787
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 6: the cyclone A decade go. Wow, it's a slow, slow,

788
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 6: slow process. Obviously great to have a target eleven thousands.

789
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 6: It's again it's an ambition out there. But and the

790
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 6: benefits from it would obviously be enormous, the economic benefits

791
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 6: coming from it as well, more jobs, more people in town,

792
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 6: you know, just diffusing some of the some of the activity.

793
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: But I'm still smarting.

794
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 6: I mean, we can't even get a lead point project

795
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 6: lead point just a legitimately good residential project. Just we

796
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 6: can't even get that off the ground. So many external factors.

797
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 6: It's not to do with the NT government, that's to

798
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 6: do with external factors. But it's just incredibly difficult. Great

799
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 6: to have a target or seeing five years again, if

800
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 6: the figures are presented openly and transparently, we'll find any

801
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 6: five years time the Chief Center target.

802
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting, it always is. But look,

803
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 3: we are going to take a very quick break.

804
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty.

805
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: It is the week that was.

806
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: And I tell you what, we cannot finish this morning

807
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: without talking about the Matilda's. They are indeed set to

808
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: play again tomorrow night. I think everybody was feeling a

809
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: little bit disappointed, maybe even devastation might have been the

810
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: word at my place, maybe a few tears after they

811
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: lost against England, but we know that it was an

812
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: unbelievable game. There's no other way to put it. I mean,

813
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: what's going to happen though on Saturday night? Are they

814
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: going to come third? But I hope they do.

815
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: I hope they do.

816
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 5: And you want to look on the bright side of this,

817
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 5: you know, the influx of people trying to play soccer.

818
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 5: And I've got a close example of my daughter who's thirteen, Well,

819
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 5: sears me up the game, daddy, I want.

820
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: To go and play soccer.

821
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: She joined my daughter's team, so she so now you know.

822
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: That's just one in my family.

823
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 5: So imagine people across Australia who've got the same sort

824
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 5: of situations here where you know, these kids watched her

825
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 5: go Now I want to go and do that, and

826
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 5: it gives them, you know, someone to look forward to.

827
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: And I'm really proud of my daughters. They don't want

828
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: to go and do that.

829
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 5: So she's one in gymnastics at the moment and that's

830
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 5: her sport that she now wants to play soccer.

831
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: And it is so good. It's such a good sport and.

832
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more with Jared, you know, the way

833
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 4: it's inspired young people to get involved in soccer. You know,

834
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 4: I've got two young nieces that are four and three,

835
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: so you know, and I know they loved watching every

836
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: second of the soccer.

837
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 7: And you know, my family they're.

838
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: Big rugby rugby league family as well, So for them

839
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: to be inspired, to be able to look up to

840
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 4: our heroes is something you know, that that as a

841
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: nation we should be proud of.

842
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 7: And just you know, the way they played. You know,

843
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 7: I want to give a special I think no one

844
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 7: really touched on it, but Mackenzie Arnold, our goalkeeper, she's incredible.

845
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 4: I felt like she played a huge part in getting

846
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: us to the semi finals. The amount of goals she

847
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 4: saved leading up to the semi finals. I think that

848
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 4: really got us across the line. I know, you know,

849
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 4: we also talk about Sam Kerr and Fowler as well

850
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 4: being a big part of it, but I strongly believe

851
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 4: that McKenzie Arnold played a huge role in that as well.

852
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: Some of those girls like honestly that, I mean, they're

853
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: incredible and I watched it with both, like with both

854
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: my kids, And I've got a little girl and little

855
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: boy and there was no you know, like both the kids,

856
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what gender you are. They just think

857
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: that this team is absolute superstars. You know, my daughter

858
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: went to soccer on Monday night with her hair like

859
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: Mary Fowlers.

860
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 4: You know.

861
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: Like the kids are just loving, like loving it, loving

862
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: how well the Australian team is going. But what I

863
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: reckon has been really interesting to hear as well is

864
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: that Channel seven brought the rights to play the you know,

865
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: the games obviously to show the games, to televise them.

866
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: That's a word I'm looking for for I think like

867
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: five million dollars, you know when you look at that now,

868
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: oh there is such a minute amount of money considering

869
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: the viewers that have obviously watched these games right around

870
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: the nation million.

871
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: It's incredible, you know.

872
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: But then the other interesting part's that sort of happened

873
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days as well. And Jared

874
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: you spoke about you know, your daughter going, I'd love

875
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: to play soccer. What an influx of kids are we

876
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: going to see wanting to play soccer right around the

877
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: Northern Territory, right around Australia And now you've got these

878
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: calls from the likes of you know of Curse and

879
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: Curse saying well, hang on, we've got to actually see

880
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: some investment into infrastructure as.

881
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: Well in this sport around the nation.

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Speaker 1: And I believe that one of the other soccer legends

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Speaker 1: has said, well, Albow, we're keeping the receipts made all

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Speaker 1: the times that you've said.

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Speaker 3: How well the Matildas have done.

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Speaker 1: We want to see some investment now into the sport

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Speaker 1: and into the junior side of the sport, because you

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Speaker 1: look at some of the other countries and how much

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Speaker 1: effort they put into to their juniors in this sport,

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Speaker 1: it is pretty different to what we do here in

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Speaker 1: the territory and in the like right around the nation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think is some of those, especially some of

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Speaker 5: those probably third world country sport is just everything if

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Speaker 5: you're a good sportsman, matter you could be some of

895
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Speaker 5: those Brazilian on fighters a USC or are you know

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Speaker 5: they are superstars yep, because and saying same with soccer

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Speaker 5: and like football no matter what sport.

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 5: Another inspirational team is a litle Feel rugby league team

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Speaker 5: out there, Litch Feel Bears. They go a great sign

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Speaker 5: in the soccer and and the cricket out at Fred's pass.

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Speaker 5: Is so much happening in sport right across the territory

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Speaker 5: briefly right across Australia that you know, it's trying to

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Speaker 5: put some money into and if we can.

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Speaker 3: Well this is the thing.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I do think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a discussion that they have to have nationally, you know,

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Speaker 1: with the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 3: It is going to sort of it's going to come up.

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Speaker 1: There is going to be different, you know, different sporting clubs,

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Speaker 1: particularly your soccer club's going We'll hang on a second.

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Speaker 1: We don't even have toilets at our facility, or we

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Speaker 1: don't even have a training you know, somewhere where the

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Speaker 1: kids can train. So as we see these influx of

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Speaker 1: kids wanting to take part in the sport, there are

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Speaker 1: going to be some you know, some other sort of

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Speaker 1: pushes I guess associated with it. But tomorrow afternoon, as

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Speaker 1: we know, Matilda's are going to take on Sweden, so

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Speaker 1: at six pm, as I understand it, at Brisbane sun

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Speaker 1: Corpse Stadium, pushing the footy aside, by the sounds of it,

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Speaker 1: pushing the league aside.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, always.

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Speaker 1: Lots happening on the weekend when it comes to sport, Jared,

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Speaker 1: you're playing what are you playing.

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Speaker 5: On the lase this weekend for the for the Litchfield

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Speaker 5: Pola cross team. Hopefully we go all right, we got

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Speaker 5: in last weekend, so I'm not sure it's going to go,

928
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Speaker 5: but you go to take the good into bad.

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Speaker 3: Ah good stuff. Well, we are going to wrap up

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Speaker 3: for the morning.

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Speaker 1: It is always wonderful to have you all in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Jared Mayley from the Coop, thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you listeners.

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Speaker 1: Cam Smith from the NT News, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: your time this morning.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: And Doran Young of course from the Labor Party and

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Speaker 1: also the member for Daily, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you. And I'm looking forward to Sunday to

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Speaker 4: getting out to the c w A I t down

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Speaker 4: at Mary and Rogers Place.

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Speaker 7: Is that for everybody or just for You've got to

943
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Speaker 7: buy your tickets. You need to buy a ticket to

944
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Speaker 7: be able to attend.

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Speaker 4: But I'm really looking forward to getting out there and

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Speaker 4: supporting such a great event for the McGrath Foundation.

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Speaker 7: Brownie, I think I think.

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Speaker 4: Rogers apparently Roger's a very good cook and he's got

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Speaker 4: the cakes going.

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Speaker 7: I might bring a cake. I am a bit of

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Speaker 7: a cook.

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Speaker 1: I tell you, if there's one group of people that

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Speaker 1: I'd be scared to display my baking skill was in

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Speaker 1: front of it's the c.

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Speaker 3: W A because.

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Speaker 2: There was some good, some nice food out there.

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Speaker 1: And I assure you, oh, it is wonderful to have

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Speaker 1: you all in the studio this morning.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time.