1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken the podcast It is not afraid to 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: say exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kay 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: and Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: have identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: covers all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: That is so fetch. Thank you hello and welcome back 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: to Outspoken. Thank you for joining us now. It's really 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: nice to just sit down and have a chat because 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: we've had quite a stressful day of back to back meetings, 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: some prep for our Christmas episodes, which I'm really excited about, 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: but it was We had a guest over at the house, 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: which was kind of stressful but so fun as well. 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: I kind of got the short straw because I've got 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: the newest house. So we had our old news director 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: and slash old boss over for a meeting today and 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: I felt so stressed getting the house ready this morning, 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: because I feel like you look at your house with 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: new eyes, like everything looks foul, everything's dirty, like I 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: had to be. I was scrubbing windows from where archies 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: put marks all over them. My favorite bit was when 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: our old news Strector walked in and of course he 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: was greeted by your dog Archie, Sophie and then Pride 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: of Place. There's two paintings of Archie in your house. 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: It just looks like you were so obsessed with your dog. 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: Well, I am actual. 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Talking about creativity. You're pretty creative on the weekend, weren't you, Amy. 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: So every Grand Final Day, my boyfriend and his friends 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: have a big party and they try and one up 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: each other with their with a hilarious costume. And he 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: came as the mcg turf. So he went to Bunnings 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: and it got some fake grass and we basically stapled 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: it on him, and he wanted it to look a 34 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: bit crap. So his inspiration for the costume was basically 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: Drember Lisa Simpson when she dressed up as Florida. It's 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: funny you say that, because I said to Reese that 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: that's what the costume reminded me of. I didn't realize, 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: oh he did. Well, then it was actually hilarious because 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: we were sitting around having this debate about how we 40 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: could actually get this turf to fit on him because 41 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: he is quite tall, and it was so funny we're 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: doing these little different sketches of how it could work. 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: So I'm going to put a meme up on the 44 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: Instagram page so you guys can check out how similar 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: it is to Lisa Simpson's costume. Sky Weeler YouTuber sky 46 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: Wheatly has been causing controversy again, this time for cultural appropriation. 47 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: So can you tell us what's happened? Well? On Saturday, 48 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: sky Wheatley shared a sponsored post of herself dressed in 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: a traditional Chinese inspired dress by Boohoo, and to top 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: the look off, she wore Japanese inspired buns. She actually 51 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: thought the outfit was a Japanese dress, not the Chinese 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: dress that in fact was, and she captured the photo 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: eating Japanese cuisine feeling very japanesey. Soon after posting this image, 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: she was completely slammed by followers for cultural appropriation. One 55 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: follower wrote, girl, I love you so much, but you 56 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: probably are going to get dragged for cultural appropriation. So 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: she wrote back, I'm not even wearing this to the 58 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: Japanese restaurant though this was taken on a different day 59 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: and I got my inspo from the cute Haradjuku girls. 60 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: What about Gwen Sefani did she get attacked like this? 61 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: And she followed it up with a ton of crying faces. 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: I could not. 63 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Actually believe this was Sky's response. And what was even 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: more staggering was her partner Lockie, decided to chime in 65 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: and he wrote back f me, ucs are way too sensitive. 66 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: This shit was never an issue when we were trading 67 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: Pokemon cards. 68 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 2: I don't quite understand his point. 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: He's now just stereotyping Japanese people further by bringing up Pokemon. 70 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: I think it's extremely dumb. I mean, why were we to 71 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: jump on there. Obviously all these messages are coming through. 72 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: They're no strangers to controversy. I don't know why they 73 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: don't just put their phone away for half an hour, 74 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: think about it, maybe talk to their manager and say 75 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: how should we best tackle it? Because really it's not 76 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: working at the moment for Sky Wheatley. We spoke about 77 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: it a few weeks earlier or her PR blunders. 78 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: And this is just another one. 79 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: The worst part is she doesn't learn, so instead of 80 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: actually deleting the post, she decided to change the caption, 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: but then continued to abuse people in the comments, not 82 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: take any feedback on board, and was acting like the victim. Well, 83 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: she changed the caption to say eating yummy Japanese tonight 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: at Boohoo, and then she changed it for a third 85 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: time and just tagged Boohoo. And then she went on 86 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: her Instagram story and acted like the victim. And you know, 87 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: it's kind of that i'm sorry not sorry thing. It's like, oh, 88 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for offending you guys, but but but b 89 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: well she for those who haven't seen it, she actually 90 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: shared a photo of herself and it looked like she 91 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: was rolling her eyes or doing some sort of funny face, 92 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: and she said, whenever I talk or say anything on stories, 93 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: people come for me. I won't talk at all. Okay, 94 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: by kiss kiss kiss? 95 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: Could she not talk? 96 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: Then? She then she wrote, and I'm not rolling my eyes. 97 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: Don't come for me. I'm just pulling a face. Okay, 98 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: Please don't get offended. I always managed to upset someone 99 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: and that really hurts me. So sorry guys, sending love 100 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: to everyone doing it tough. It's like, okay, so you're apologizing, 101 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: but you're not apologizing because you're rolling your eyes. 102 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: And also, why. 103 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: Put up a photo of you rolling your eyes and 104 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 1: then have to have a disclaimer that you're not rolling 105 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: your eyes like it's quite obvious that you are rolling 106 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: your eyes because you don't have the intelligen to understand 107 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: what is actually going on. This is what igretates me. 108 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know. A couple of weeks ago, 109 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: we discussed that a lot of people allow Sky not 110 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: to be canceled because she isn't intelligent enough to understand 111 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: these concepts. But how many times can we allow her 112 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: to offend people like this and just say, oh, she 113 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: doesn't know any better. I'm at a point where it's 114 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: like she should know better. She has a massive following, 115 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: she has seen all of this sort of cultural appropriation 116 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: go down online with other influences, but she continues to 117 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: offend everyone. What about Boo Who? I mean, if you're 118 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: Boo Who and you're being tagged in this post, how 119 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: are you feeling as a brand? Because if I was them, 120 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be dragged into this. I think 121 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: the bigger issue here is the fact that Booho are 122 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: bringing out this dress. They should be being blamed as well. 123 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: Why bring out a dress that is culturally offensive like this? 124 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: Sophie? 125 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: For those who are a little bit confused, can you 126 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: explain to us why the dress is culturally offensive. We 127 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: did have a few people asking us to explain on 128 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: the podcast why it is actually a form of cultural 129 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: appropriation why it is offensive. And it is really interesting 130 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: because the term cultural appropriation it did only emerge in 131 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, but I feel like in the past 132 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: couple of years it has been something that has had 133 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: a spotlight on it, and I feel like it is 134 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: something we are discussing more more, particularly recently with the 135 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matters movement and everything that's been going on, 136 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: There's definitely been more cases of cultural appropriation brought to 137 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: the life. Yeah, And I mean it can be something 138 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: that's tricky to understand because I feel like there's a 139 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: lot of layers to it, and I feel like educating 140 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: ourselves on what it is, when it happens and what 141 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: makes it a big deal it can actually help us 142 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: to not cause any offense in the future. So basically, 143 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: cultural appropriation happens when a dominant culture takes things from 144 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: another culture that is experiencing oppression. And to give more 145 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: context to this, a dominant culture is the most visible 146 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: and accepted culture within a particular society and looking at 147 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: oppression that is described as being something that is repeated 148 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: and prolonged. Discrimination is not just one behavior, but a 149 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: form of structural discrimination, meaning it's backed by a power 150 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: and authority. So those sort of things are racism, homophobia, 151 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: and sexism. So it's also interesting to look at what 152 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: isn't cultural appropriation because that's where I think people get confused. 153 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: So cultural exchange is very different from cultural appropriation. That's 154 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: what I feel like. People will bring out these comments 155 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: like oh well, and Sky herself did, oh well, I'm 156 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: just appreciating the culture, and it's like, of course, everyone 157 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: wants others to appreciate different cultures, but there's an appropriate 158 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: way to do it, and cultural appreciation versus cultural appropriation 159 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: is very different. 160 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 161 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: So for example, when we're talking about exchanging things from 162 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: different cultures, it's things like tea or pasta, you know, 163 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: different foods, and that's because it shared between different cultures 164 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: throughout history. So those borrowings aren't the same as cultural 165 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: appropriation because they don't involve power. So when different cultures 166 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: come together on equal footings to exchange different things, that 167 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: is different to cultural appropriation. I think that's why there's 168 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot of confusion with fashion, and what we've been 169 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: seeing online is because people think by wearing this dress 170 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: or a headscarf or something that's taken from a different culture, 171 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: that they're actually appreciating it, where it's very different because 172 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: that cultural dress has been very much stereotyped in a way. 173 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: That's why the cultures want to hold onto it and 174 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: wear it as their own and don't like other people 175 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: wearing it as like a fashion item. Yeah, it's so 176 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: true because it does create such a stereotype, and when 177 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: people from dominant cultures dress like those who were oppressed, 178 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: it reduces something of their cultural significance as well, So 179 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: it becomes more of a costume, just so that the 180 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: dominant group can have a bit of fun and. 181 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: Dress up well. 182 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: Talking about fashion, obviously, Sky's dress was what caused a 183 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: lot of issues. Firstly, she wrongly identified it as Japanese 184 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: when it's actually a Chinese cultural dress. But there were 185 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: other issues with the dress that really should be pointed 186 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: out to Boo who. Well, one follower who is of 187 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: Chinese heritage explained to Sky why it was offensive, and 188 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: she did it in such an articulate way. She wrote, 189 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: the dress you have purchased from Boo, who is appropriation 190 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: of the national feminist dress of China. It is in 191 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: no way Japanese. It's unethical, she said. Number two, labeling 192 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: something as japanesey is racist to Japanese and Asian people. 193 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: There is no way to feel like someone from another 194 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: race or culture. You wouldn't wear dreads then say you 195 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: feel like a black person. She also pointed out that 196 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: it was incredibly offensive to sexualize the dress, and then 197 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: she followed it up by saying, the best way to 198 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: educate yourself on racism is through listening to people of color. 199 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: This is in no way meant to be an attack, 200 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: only a form of education. I think what was most 201 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: impressive was this young girl was only eighteen years of age, 202 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: but instead of sky responding, you know, politely, or thanking 203 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: the girl for educating her, it was just ignored. And 204 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: she did end up actually deleting her comments on the 205 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: post and then deleting the post altogether, which I think 206 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: pissed a lot of people off because once she deleted 207 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: the post, she didn't come out and apologized. She just 208 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: simply hasn't said anything. The thing is, though, I mean, 209 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: we're saying that Ski is not very educated. It appears 210 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: on cultural appropriation. But at what point, when everything's going 211 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: on in the last couple of months, as you said, 212 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter movement, when did she think, hmm, 213 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't write I'm feeling japanesey. Well, the thing 214 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: just sounds so offensive. Well, the thing that's so sad 215 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: is that Asian culture. I feel like it's been casually 216 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: mocked and appropriated for decades in Australia, and I feel 217 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: like at least it has shone a light on the 218 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: fact that this isn't acceptable in this day and age anymore, 219 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: you know. I feel like with Sky we have had 220 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: some big examples this year with Sarah's Day's braids and 221 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: even Adele copying flag for wearing the Jamaican outfit. I 222 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: feel like it's not enough to say that she doesn't 223 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: understand it's part of pop culture. 224 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 2: At the moment. 225 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: Kristen's voice is like nails. 226 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: On a chuckboard. 227 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: Oh god, she started freaking out when he disappeared to 228 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: scare us all the embarrassuit. 229 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: Well, She's like, Steve Van, what are you, Steve. 230 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: Fan, Let's get into the reality wrap now, kay, there's 231 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: an exciting story about Laguna Beach. I felt so nostalgic 232 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: watching this. The forty five minute event played out on Instagram. 233 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: It's actually on Stephen Colletti's Instagram for anyone that wants 234 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: to check her out, and I highly recommen and you do. 235 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: It brought back so many memories of how good that 236 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: season of Laguna Beach was. So all of the original 237 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: cast of the first season came together, of course on 238 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: Zoom to reflect back on old episodes, and it was 239 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: so interesting to see. I just loved looking at Lauren 240 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: and Kristin and how they reacted when each other spoke, 241 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: because literally, Kristin is the same, She's all going like 242 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: woo and like it just She even. 243 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: Did the Stephen for us. 244 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: It was so funny because apparently Stephen was saying when 245 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: he's out, everyone comes up to him and. 246 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: Tries to say Stephen at him. 247 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: Like Stephen, weren't their rumors that now she's getting a 248 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: divorce from her husband, that there might be something happening 249 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: between them. Well, it was interesting because they flashed back 250 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: to the time they went to Catalina when they were 251 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: camping and there was that bear incident where they tricked 252 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: them they were in a tent and someone said that 253 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: there was a bear, but it was Steven dressed up 254 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: as a bear. I don't know if any Oh, yes. 255 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: I gotta be an ogi. 256 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: Well, anyway, apparently Kristin said she was doing a photo 257 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: shoot in Catalina and she had messaged Stephen about it, 258 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: and they also brought up the fact that they had 259 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: a photo together on Instagram, and it kind of seemed 260 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: like something is going on there. I would love that. 261 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: What about with Lauren because I felt like there was 262 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: a bit of flirting going on between her and Stephen. 263 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: There was a point where I thought there was a 264 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: bit of flirting because the host asked them they were 265 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: playing a drinking game, like have I ever? And they said, oh, sorry, 266 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: never have I ever? And it was take a shot 267 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: if you have ever skinny dipped. So they all drunk 268 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: when they skinny dipped, except Lauren was first to drink, 269 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: and then Steven goes, oh, Lauren, you didn't drink, and 270 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: there was a bit of like flirty banter. I've got 271 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: to say, he looked really hot. 272 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw it. He looked a lot better. I 273 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: feel like he's finally grown up. 274 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: Well, I think The best part of this reunion was 275 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: the fact that it was to raise awareness for voter registrations. 276 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: So Lauren Conrad actually came up with the idea with 277 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: Trey to do the reunion, but they wanted it to be, 278 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, create some good and they said they would 279 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: do it if they managed to get five hundred people 280 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: to register to vote, and they actually ended up getting 281 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: twenty times that, which is fantastic. You brought up trades before. 282 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: I actually couldn't get over how old he looked. I 283 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: thought the same thing, and Dietera also looked old as well, 284 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: So how many youths does it be now? Well? The 285 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: first season of Luna Beach debut in two thousand and four, 286 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: which makes me feel so old. I remember actually watching 287 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: it at home and I think we had just finished 288 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: year twelve and our dad thought he must have thought 289 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: it was like the OC or something because he didn't 290 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: realize that it was a reality TV show. Now just 291 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: a goggle Box fact I found really interesting. Do you 292 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: know Tim and Lianne? So they are the Asian brother 293 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: and sister on Google Box. 294 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: So guess how old Tim is. 295 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: I'd say early thirties. Maybe I felt like he. 296 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: Was in his mid twenties. 297 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: He is forty two and I'm not even joking, and 298 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: Leanne's thirty. So everyone is just so shocked how old 299 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: he is. Apparently he has to show his ID when 300 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: people ask him his age just to prove it. 301 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: Well, I think we should move into the Bachelor. 302 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: Now. There's some hot rumors of a romance between Bella 303 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: and Matt Agnew. Well, I don't know if you could 304 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: go as far as saying a romance. I think it's 305 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: very one sided, clearly. So Bella went and commented on 306 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: Matt Agnew's photo he posted, and it was quite interesting 307 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: because he'd posted a photo of himself on Friday night, 308 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: lying back on the couch wearing a luminair from Beauty 309 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: in the Beast Jumper. What so he's in a candlestick 310 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: from ye I love him so much. I feel like 311 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: that was a good move from him, because how many 312 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: girls would sit and look at that and go, oh, well, 313 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: the feedback was really good. And then Bella must have 314 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: liked what she's seen as well, and she wrote dot 315 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: dot dot hi, and it was followed by the emojis 316 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: of a waving girl, a bell a lion, and a 317 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: rose and some people have decided that those that choice 318 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: of emojis must mean that she is hot for him, 319 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: which I think it does. But also I suppose Belle 320 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: is the main character in Beauty in the Beast as well, 321 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: and her name is Bella. 322 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: Is that some sort of is it a message to her? 323 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: Though? We also many people commented that she looked like 324 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: Belle from Beauty in the Beast in her gold dress 325 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: on the opening night of The Bachelor, so clearly it's 326 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: either a flirty picture from him to her to get 327 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: her attention. Well, some fans picked up that she had 328 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: actually posted on her Instagram story the day before saying 329 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: how much she loved Disney. The thing is, though it's 330 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: a little bit awkward, he did not like her comment 331 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: for hours and hours. He finally did, but he did 332 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: not reply, And I noticed in the comments he had 333 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: literally replied to like so many random fans. It's probably 334 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: because he must have just privately DMed her. He's intelligent 335 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: enough to know that that sort of thing would create 336 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: a subsequent article. 337 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: Well, we'll keep an eye on that one. 338 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: Let's move on to Sas Australia, and this is quickly 339 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: becoming one of my favorite shows. 340 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: I loved it. 341 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I had something for everyone. It's the 342 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: only reality show I've been able to force my boyfriend 343 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: to watch, and he loved every second of it. 344 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a good. 345 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: One for couples because there's such a diverse range of celebrities. 346 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: So you've got you know, your controversial celebrities, you've got 347 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: your sports stars, your reality stars. Yeah, there's someone for 348 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: everyone on there. And I do like the way that 349 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: they have mixed olympians and professional sports people with people 350 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: from the Bachelorette. Yeah, it's really clever because there's at 351 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: least people who you know can physically carry out those activities. 352 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: But then there's also the different personalities who make it 353 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: really interesting. We're talking about the Bachelor, of course. The 354 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: honey Badger Nick Cummins is on the show, and I 355 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: think the most controversial scene so far to come out 356 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: of the show was him boxing against AFLW star Sabrina Frederick. 357 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: What did you think of it? 358 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: I think it was a really difficult situation for Nick 359 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: to be put into To paint the scene. Sabrina was 360 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: asked to select from the entire cast as to who 361 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: she would like to box against. And she picked Nick. 362 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: So I mean, in that situation, what was he meant 363 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: to do? It would have looked patronizing if he didn't 364 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: box against her. That being said, I think that he 365 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have aimed for her head. Yeah, I must 366 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: say I was really interested to see what he would 367 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: actually do, because I actually thought he'd stand aside and 368 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: would refuse to actually box against her. There was just 369 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: something a bit confronting about seeing a man punching. 370 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: A woman in the head. 371 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: And I'm all for women's right, I'm all for equality, 372 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: but I don't know I did. I have to admit 373 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: I felt a little bit uncomfortable, and that's not me giving, 374 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, the honey badger shit, because he was put 375 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: in a difficult situation. 376 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 2: It was uncomfortable. 377 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: But if he'd stood aside, it would have been packronizing 378 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: for her because she did select him. And she said 379 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: in a little intro that she's always come up against 380 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: certain discriminations in life. But is it But is it 381 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: discriminating against somebody because you don't want to hit someone 382 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: of a different sex like it would have been interesting 383 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: to see what happened behind the scenes. I mean, obviously 384 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: we're seeing a show cut together very quickly. What about, though, 385 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: if Roxy Jusenko had picked him, would you have an issue? 386 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: Because he and Sabrino were quite matched, you know, with 387 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: their size. She was just about as tall as a 388 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: honey badger, and being an AFLW player, she's of course 389 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: extremely tough. 390 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 2: But well, I don't think Roxy would have selected him. 391 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: So what if they selected them to punch off against 392 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: each other, though, would you see something wrong in that? Well, 393 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: I think that she might have put her hand up 394 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: and said, hey, I feel a bit uncomfortable in this situation. 395 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: I feel so sorry for Roxy. I'm a big fan 396 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: of Roxy. 397 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: Just sayko. 398 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: I know she is quite a divisive character, but I 399 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: think she's amazing And I thought it was so unfair 400 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: that they did not point out the fact that she 401 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: had an injury going into the show, because she's such 402 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: a physically fit person. She's a very active person, and 403 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: they made her look like she was a princess when 404 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: she's that. 405 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: Couldn't be further from the truth with her. 406 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Well, Roxy copped a lot of backlash online, and I 407 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: could see where people were coming from because the way 408 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: that the show framed it, it was if you know, 409 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: they were trying to make out that she was this 410 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: sort of rich business owner who couldn't be stuffed to 411 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: be a part of it, and didn't mention any of 412 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: her injuries. I loved her interview on Carlin Jackie O. 413 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: She dropped a lot of dirt on there, especially about 414 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: her friendship with Candace Warner. And for those who didn't 415 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: see the show, Roxy and Candace were asked to box 416 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: against each other and Roxy basically said on Carlin Jackie 417 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: OO that she didn't want to box. She said, she's 418 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: not on a reality TV show to punch other people 419 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: and she wasn't going to do it for the ratings. 420 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: I could see where Roxy was coming from. I would 421 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: find it incredibly awkward to fight against one of my 422 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: clients or. 423 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: Just a friend in general. 424 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: Well, the thing was you've got to kind of step 425 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: away and go, this is actually just a television show. 426 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: They're not actually trying to be in the sas. And 427 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: it kind of reminded me because when I was doing 428 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: my cadet ship at seven, we had a former policeman 429 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: come in and he was teaching us self defense and 430 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: he made us fight against each other and it was 431 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: basically we had to be on our knees and we 432 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: had to try and pin each other down, and was 433 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: to show you how exhausting it can be fighting without 434 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: actually knowing the proper way of holding somebody back. 435 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: And I thought, well, maybe maybe. 436 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: Before was that for if some talent came up to 437 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: you who was pissed off. 438 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, I don't know. 439 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: You've got to be prepared when you're being sent out 440 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: into these situations. But but I was thinking something like 441 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: that probably would have been better for sas Australia rather 442 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: than giving them boxing gloves and sort of getting them 443 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: to punch each other in the head. Well, it was 444 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: quite clever of the producers and production because that episode 445 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: got everyone talking. Something else that got everyone talking was 446 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: Chappelle Corby. 447 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 448 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: I love the fact that Australia seems to have embraced 449 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: her and actually knows more about her now and they 450 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: can see, you know, the nice side of her personality. 451 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: And for her, it seemed to be all about that 452 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: she did not want to be painted as some drug 453 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: smuggler anymore. There's so many more layers to her than 454 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: just what she is being categorized as. Yeah, what an 455 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: amazing pr spin for Chappelle Corby because she's now being 456 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: sort of headhunted for other work on reality shows, and 457 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: I think it's amazing og listeners of the podcast so 458 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: will remember about a year ago we did a podcast 459 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: all about Chappelle. 460 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: Corby and her innocence. 461 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: So I would really recommend people go and listen to 462 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: that if you have suddenly become interested in Chappelle Corby. 463 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: We had a lot of people messaging us saying they 464 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: actually believe in Chappelle's innocence now after seeing what she 465 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: was like Onessays Australia. For those who haven't seen the 466 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: episode yet, they did interrogate her and playback news reports 467 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: from the day that she was sentenced, and it was 468 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: incredible because the top commando guy I don't know his name, 469 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: he threw her the question why did you do it? 470 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: And she was straight out said I didn't do it. Yeah, 471 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: and you could just tell in her eyes that she 472 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: did not she. 473 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: Did do it, She didn't do it. 474 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: And I think it's been great for Chappelle, So good 475 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: on her for making the decision to go on Says Australia. Hi, sister, 476 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: Now let's get into the influencer wrap and we've got 477 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: to kick it off with oystergate now. Amy For those 478 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: who haven't heard, what is oystergate all about? Well, Oystergate 479 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: started after Byron Bay influencer Ruby Tuesday held up a 480 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: Jetstar flight after she left the airport to get oysters. 481 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: So basically, her flight was delayed and passengers were told 482 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: to wait about two hours because they had to fly 483 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: in an engineer to fix a problem on the plane, 484 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: so they were told to stay at the airport, but 485 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: she decided she wanted to go out and get some dinner, 486 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: and she went and got oysters. She shared it on 487 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: her Instagram and unfortunately for her, the engineer ended up 488 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: fixing the problem on the plane an hour earlier than 489 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: they initially thought. So everybody boarded the plane and they 490 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: were waiting for her to come back from the restaurant. 491 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: So it's safe to say a lot of the passengers 492 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: were pretty pissed off. Yeah, she was heckled. When she 493 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: reboarded the flight, passengers shouted how are the oysters? And 494 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: what a day to be pretty as she entered the aircraft. 495 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: And I have to say, as much as I don't 496 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: condone bullying or anything like that, I probably would have 497 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: been one of those people shooting her a very nasty look. 498 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have yelled, but I would have shot her 499 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: a death sta a stare to be like, are you serious? 500 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: I mean, because everyone would have hopped on her Instagram 501 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: and seen that that's where she was. I just think 502 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: though she's been playing the victim a lot. She's been 503 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: getting on an Insta story. She's been bagging out Jetstar, 504 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: calling them shitstar. And I must say I saw a 505 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: Daily Mail article and they were talking about the fact 506 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: that she was flying to Sydney for sort of a 507 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: lavish trip where she was buying designer brands, and I thought, 508 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: Felly saying, well, why are you flying Jetster? 509 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: If it's so shit, why are you flying Jetster? 510 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: I just think the whole thing screamed of arrogance and entitlement. 511 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: You know everyone else is having to wait, You've been 512 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: told not to leave the airport. Why in the flight 513 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: leave without her? Normally that's what happened. Well, I've been 514 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: kind of surprised at how some people are discussing this 515 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: oyster gate issue because there has been a lot of 516 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: backlash from people. And actually one of my friends, Sally, 517 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: tipped me off to this story, So shout out to 518 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: Sally and a lot of people are outraged by this, 519 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: but a lot of media covering it have been kind 520 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: of acting like it's a bit of a joke and 521 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: she I suppose, well, she's perpetuating that image a bit. 522 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: Ever since she landed in Sydney, she's been sharing her 523 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: different meals out at other restaurants where she's also enjoying 524 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: more oysters, and she keeps tagging at Oystergate. Look, I 525 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: do think that that's pretty clever, but you've got to 526 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: stop posting the rants about jet Star. I mean, especially 527 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: in this time it's really difficult for airlines, Like we 528 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: all have had issues with budget airlines before, but it 529 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: was your fault. You rocked up late, you didn't follow 530 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: the rules, you were told not to leave the airport. 531 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: Expect some people to make snide comments, and do you 532 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: know what kind it kind of irritates me because I 533 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of these influences are sort of 534 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: living in this bubble where everyone is so up their 535 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: ass that they can't even hack somebody making a snide 536 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: comment saying, hey, did you enjoy the oysters? 537 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 2: Like, get over it. 538 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: You were late, you made everyone way well for those 539 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: who haven't seen that, She took to Instagram to share 540 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: her feelings towards Oystergate and her experience with Jetstar. She said, 541 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: I had a pretty traumatic flight experience. Thanks Jetstar, you 542 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: never ceased to amaze me. I'm sorry, but it really 543 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: was not my fault. We were told it was going 544 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: to be taking off at seven forty five. I had 545 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: not eaten since my smoothie that morning because I had 546 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: been in back to back meetings. I was like, fuck this, 547 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to get food out of the airport. It's 548 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: two hours until my flight takes off. 549 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to go. I walked out. 550 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: I did not hear the second announcement that apparently said 551 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: to not leave the airport. 552 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: I didn't hear that. 553 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: I swear to god, I wouldn't have left the airport. 554 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 2: I'm not a dickhead. 555 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: I do have respect for everyone else. I was basically 556 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: bullied by about ten to fourteen people at different times. 557 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: Then they made comments about my children. No Jetstar staff 558 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: stopped this at any time. I copped it hard for 559 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes. I was scared for myself because Number one, 560 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: I was by myself. Number two no one else who 561 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: was later than me copped abuse. It was just me alone. 562 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: I can handle it. I literally said, guys, go for it. 563 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: I copped this every single day. It's just another friggin' 564 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: thing to me. But one day there is going to 565 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: be another girl not as strong as me, and they're 566 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: going to hop on that plane and they are going 567 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: to cop that and they are going to hop off 568 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: at the other end, and they're going to kill themselves. 569 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: Just be kind people to the one guy who was 570 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: kind to me. Thank you to everyone else. Grow up. 571 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: Wow. 572 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know where I don't even know. 573 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: Where to start with that. 574 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: I totally understand the point about people's mental health, and 575 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: in this sort of time, we never know what people's 576 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: mental health is like. But the thing that I do 577 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: not like about this is the complete blame to jet Star. 578 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: How was it their fault that they didn't that she 579 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: didn't hear the second announcement. Look, I don't think people 580 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: should have a girl at her kids. I think that 581 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: is stooping too extremely low level. I do get her 582 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: point about people and their mental health, and it's obviously 583 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: lucky that she's strong enough to be able to cop 584 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: those comments. But at the end of the day, you 585 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: know it's you were late. You ate some oysters and 586 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: people gave you shit over it because you were late 587 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: for a flight. People deal with that sort of stuff 588 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: every day. I think that we're turning into a bit 589 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: of a like over nannying things if people aren't even 590 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: allowed to call someone out for being late for a flight. 591 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: But I must say good on her for having a 592 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: bit of fun with it, because I have enjoyed seeing 593 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: some of the celebrities who are also sharing. 594 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: Their oyster shots. 595 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: Well. Roxy shared her support for a Ruby, posting a 596 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: photo on Instagram on Friday night with the caption off 597 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: Oysters and tagged group in the post Onto the next 598 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: story and The South Australian Tourism Commission has spent five 599 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 1: million on an inter an interstate tourism campaign which has 600 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: featured the likes of jar Day Tunci and also Brittany 601 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: from the Lifelin Cup podcast. I think the campaign has 602 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: been sensational. It's so exciting to see some big influences 603 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: actually in South Australia. 604 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: At the moment. Well, there is so much to. 605 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: Do in South Australia. I think sometimes South Australian, especially Adelaide, 606 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: gets a bad rap. So it has been nice to 607 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: see Brittany and also jar Day showing off some of 608 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: the amazing things to do in South Australia. Or we 609 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: did see Brittany cuddling a koala and that was in 610 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: Kangaroo Island and for those who are from interstate, Kangaroo 611 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: Island is such a beautiful place to visit. 612 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 2: We're not being. 613 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: Paid by the Tourism Commission here, just a bit of 614 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: state pride on the line. It's really interesting because Sammy 615 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: Robinson has been invited a lot of times to South 616 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: Australia and I wonder whether she turned down the invitation 617 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: because she has spoken a lot about how she doesn't 618 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: really want to travel anymore now that she has her business. 619 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 620 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: Well, I think it is a good move by the 621 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: Essay Tourism Commission because it is putting South Australia on 622 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: the map. I'm sure there are a lot of people, 623 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: especially people in Melbourne who might have never been to Adelaide, 624 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: going hey, maybe I will, like you know, once we're 625 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: out of lockdown, maybe I will go there. 626 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: There is a lot to do. 627 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: One of the only things that is good that is 628 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: coming out of the pandemic is that for once we 629 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: are having the opportunity to explore our own country. 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