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Speaker 3: Floor on the cutting room floor today. You've heard of

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Speaker 3: job hopping, haven't you?

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Speaker 1: Is job hopping which is what everyone seemed to be

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Speaker 1: doing after COVID. They thought life's too short and they'd

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Speaker 1: stayed a job a very short period of time and

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Speaker 1: just flop around all over the place, job to job

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Speaker 1: to job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're never satisfied.

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Speaker 3: I when I first started in radio, I didn't job

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Speaker 3: hop as much as climb the ladder.

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Speaker 2: What would happen if someone would have me from another

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Speaker 4: Why? What's this good to do with anything?

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Speaker 2: It's just a backdoor brag.

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Speaker 4: Of course, it's a front door brat.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 3: I am so all made from radio station exit ring

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Speaker 3: and say we need you over here, bro, And I'd

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Speaker 3: be there for about two years and I buger off.

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Speaker 1: And I learned to the phone, and it'd be the

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Speaker 1: next big station wait for me.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So you you you're you're familiar with my journey.

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Speaker 2: You know about my journey. So anyway, there's that.

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Speaker 3: The new one to enter the lexicon is job hugging

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Speaker 3: and it's a grim new work trend.

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Speaker 4: Apparently, what's the new work trend? Job hogging?

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Speaker 1: How is it?

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Speaker 4: Job hunting is the job.

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Speaker 2: That's how you got the job.

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Speaker 1: Here, I get a phone call, so we need to

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Speaker 1: come and hunt people in our office.

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Speaker 4: And that's how my career took off.

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Speaker 2: Then your phone go quiet. No.

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Speaker 3: Job hugging, as opposed to job hopping or humping is

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Speaker 3: basically the opposite of that. Job hugging is where an

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Speaker 3: employee stays in a role even that they're unhappy or

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Speaker 3: find the job unfulfilling. The people remain in their jobs

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Speaker 3: because they feel, you know, it's not so bad.

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Speaker 2: I can live with this.

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Speaker 4: Is this because of hard financial times?

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Speaker 3: Cause he lives, because he lives those things. But also

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Speaker 3: it's not good for the company. You can't sack anyone

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Speaker 3: these days. It's so hard to sack someone, so they

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Speaker 3: can They just breeze along. They just breeze along and

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Speaker 3: just and phone it in. And you're not getting the

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Speaker 3: quality out of that employee.

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Speaker 1: So what you might gain in stability and longevity, you

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Speaker 1: losing quality exactly.

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Speaker 3: And so people, clearly you've been job hugging for some years,

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Speaker 3: haven't you not enough? Job humping, just job hugging, Abby,

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Speaker 3: So you're just all about a hug the series.

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Speaker 1: I'm dreaming of you getting an ex phone call and

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Speaker 1: someone luring you away to go working community radio.

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Speaker 3: Why I can't go backwards. I'm like the Emu and

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Speaker 3: the kangaroo on our coat of arms. I only go forward.

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Speaker 4: They're both delicious.

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Speaker 3: So and there's money Bags FM rings up and says

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Speaker 3: then there's no money Bags FM left anymore. They're all

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Speaker 3: gone broke and we're at the top of our game.

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Speaker 1: So it sounds to me the way you're describing yourself

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Speaker 3: Maybe I have job hiking because I'm at the top

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Speaker 3: of the game. I can't go backwards.

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Speaker 4: We can't sack you. And I found that out a

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Speaker 2: You're always going to eight levels of management. I car

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Speaker 2: to bide him. Meanwhile, you go for a bit of

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad we've cleared that up. Good, that's what

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Speaker 1: she said.

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Speaker 2: And on the cutting room floor today.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a look back at your wedding photos

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Speaker 1: and wonder who the hell the people are there?

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Speaker 4: In them, not you and your wife wish she who sha.

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Speaker 3: I know, my wife gets our wedding video and plays

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Speaker 3: it in reverse so she can see herself walking out

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Speaker 3: remember my wedding. One of her Helen's nurse my wedding,

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Speaker 3: It was all about me. One of Helen's nurse friends

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Speaker 2: For having us, Darrene.

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Speaker 1: It is funny, though, because your your wedding is a

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Speaker 1: Usually doesn't happen that way, nor should it. You don't

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Speaker 4: There are people you work with.

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Speaker 1: At that time, or the partners of people you work with,

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. You may have seen this

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Speaker 1: find the identity of an uninvited wedding gets. She's looking

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Speaker 1: And her husband and says, I don't know. I thought

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Speaker 1: spent four years using various forms of social media to

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Speaker 1: try and find him. Well, finally she's tracked him down

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Speaker 4: Why was he there? Is he some mad stalker?

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Speaker 1: So what has happened is finally this was shared on

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Speaker 1: His name is Andrew Millhouse and he put a post

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Speaker 1: The thing is he was with his partner was part

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Speaker 1: as the partner so he was initially unperturbed to find

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Speaker 4: I'm at the wrong wedding.

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Speaker 1: But as this is a quote from him, you can't

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Speaker 1: so I just had to commit to the act and

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Speaker 2: Be, as he says, and he ended up in the

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Speaker 1: At the end of the ceremony, he tried to make

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Speaker 4: He went on to say.

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Speaker 1: He rushed outside, made some phone calls, and made his

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Speaker 1: of the night retelling the story to everyone. I've just

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Speaker 1: been at another wedding down the road. He did not

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Speaker 1: a guy who wasn't trying to be a wedding.

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Speaker 2: He has just been polite.

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Speaker 1: He was trying to be polite and got caught up

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Speaker 2: This happened to me at a funeral one time.

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Speaker 3: I was running late to a funeral for a friend

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Speaker 2: He hays, yeah, yep, no, and he's talking as loud

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Speaker 3: So anyway, where the Greenside Chapel was was like about

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Speaker 2: Go over to the grip, get there, walk in. It's

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Speaker 2: not the funeral, wrong funeral.

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Speaker 4: How did you know?

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Speaker 3: Because I walked in on that there was no one

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Speaker 2: My friend was old.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, and then went.

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Speaker 1: So I would have left my bike there and walked yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: Get back there? And then old mate, the grave digger

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Speaker 2: This is probably in here.

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Speaker 1: No, you know what probably should have happened, he said,

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Speaker 4: Had a grave digger here for fifty years.

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Speaker 3: Then I walk into the church and everyone I'm here

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Speaker 3: Fonsias here.

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Speaker 2: Lucky. My mate was a motorcycle enthusiast.

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Speaker 4: He would have appreciated, of course he would.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, everybody, here some more jelsey and a

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Speaker 3: man's curtain room for Hey, hey, hey, get ready everybody,

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, are you ready for on the cutting

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Speaker 2: room floor today.

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Speaker 3: Something we didn't even mention on the show today because

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Speaker 3: we had so much on is this woman going viral

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Speaker 3: for blasting Virgin online for not letting her breastfeed in

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Speaker 3: the business class land.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't even breastfeed. It was express breast milk, yep.

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Speaker 1: And it was under her t shirt. It was a

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Speaker 1: small handheld pump. It's not necessarily those big machines that

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Speaker 1: discreet pump that she said was under her shirt. No

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Speaker 1: one would have seen it. She was asked not to

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Speaker 1: do it in a business class lounge because people were complaining.

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Speaker 1: She was told she should go into the bathroom to

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Speaker 3: In this world, I just don't understand where everyone's filming

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Speaker 3: everything anything like that. If you see a breastfeeding woman

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Speaker 3: doing something. I wouldn't say anything. If a woman walks

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Speaker 3: in this room now with two bosoms out spraying milk everywhere,

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Speaker 3: I would not.

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Speaker 2: Say a thing.

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Speaker 3: Why not because you can't say anything about breastfeeding women.

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Speaker 1: Are you someone who gets bitten by mosquitos? There are

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Speaker 2: I'm a motorcyclist. You have to a negative.

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Speaker 1: This is some research that has come from the Netherlands.

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Speaker 3: Because I'll get them landing on me, but they don't

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Speaker 4: And I didn't even have air regard on. But let

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Speaker 1: And that by knocking down the Amazon, we're losing all access.

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Speaker 1: So five hundred adults at a music festival stuck their

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Speaker 4: Think you, officer, You stop that noise.

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Speaker 1: It triggers your emotions like Rock's.

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Speaker 1: Well, Brendan, first it was Haul and Oates, Now it's

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's move on to Ben and Jerry's.

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Speaker 1: So Ben and Jerry's ice cream. One of the co founders, Jerry,

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Speaker 4: He's resigned.

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Speaker 1: What's happened, well, the parent company, Unilever he says, has

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Speaker 4: Six ice cream not gonna I We get this one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in the ice cream business, but we've always

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Speaker 2: So no, we're not just going to stip ice cream.

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Speaker 4: Well I didn't.

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Speaker 3: to talk about these things because people everyday.

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Speaker 2: People are now aware of what's happening socially.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if it's the difference.

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Speaker 2: Is and now it just sounds like a lecture.

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Speaker 1: No, but in the old days, in the old days,

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Speaker 1: you used to be able to say I'm opposed to this,

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Speaker 1: you go fair enough.

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Speaker 4: Now you're opposed to this. Sorry, that means you know it.

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Speaker 1: We're so divided and we can no longer tolerate an opinion.

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Speaker 1: So Unilever have said we don't like your pro Palestinian thoughts.

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Speaker 4: You've upset our Israeli followers.

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Speaker 2: Therefore, exactly there you.

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Speaker 1: Go, So there's no longer here's my opinion. It is

457
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Speaker 1: my opinion now is upsetting somebody and you cannot have

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Speaker 1: your The very.

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Speaker 3: Numb of it is Ben and Jerry's make ice cream.

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Speaker 3: When they were in an opinion company making ice cream,

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Speaker 3: It's like you too, You too.

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Speaker 4: Have ice cream? Is terrible.

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Speaker 3: They'd have a nice Roman reason. But what I'm saying

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Speaker 3: is even you too in itself. Now everyone's tired of

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Speaker 3: hearing other people's opinions because we are awash with opinions.

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Speaker 3: You look at social media. You don't have to go

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Speaker 3: anywhere to hear an opinion. Remember in the old days,

468
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Speaker 3: and we're so Immersedose you go there and Maddie and

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Speaker 3: you could.

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Speaker 2: See a Maddie standing in the town square yelling out

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Speaker 2: all of them, but you can walk off.

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Speaker 3: But now, thanks to the algorithm, and thanks to Elon

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Speaker 3: must taking away censorship on.

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Speaker 2: X, you get any amount of sewer coming out of that.

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Speaker 1: Post, which is what is because they make more money

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Speaker 1: when we lean into fearful opinions. So what you say

477
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Speaker 1: is right, But I think what I say.

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Speaker 4: Is right as well.

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Speaker 1: Of course I'm going to say that it is yes,

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Speaker 1: we've got too much opinion, but also that opinion somehow

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Speaker 1: it's like stroking a cap backwards. Your opinion is hateful

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Speaker 1: to me, and therefore we are at odds. It didn't

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Speaker 1: just used to be okay, he's got that opinion.

484
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Speaker 4: Now we're at odds.

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Speaker 3: It's true, and maybe we'll go back to the twenties

486
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Speaker 3: where everyone has kept their piste whole shut.

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Speaker 2: So people talk on into that. Now.

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Speaker 3: I've noticed when you go to barbecues and stuff, people

489
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Speaker 3: are less inclined to talk politically.

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Speaker 4: Have you noticed that because we know how to visit it,

491
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Speaker 4: because people so.

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Speaker 2: You don't mention it.

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Speaker 3: So in humankind, when we're face to face with each other,

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Speaker 3: we're not talking about our opinions.

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Speaker 4: Have you seen this thing? This is two dogs and

496
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Speaker 4: they said this is what Twitter or x is. Two dogs.

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Speaker 4: There's a fence.

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Speaker 1: Yep, these alsatians is barking, bearing their teeth. The fence

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Speaker 1: pulls back. The two dogs just look at each other.

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Speaker 1: No problem. Fence closes again.

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Speaker 3: Man, And that's exactly what it is. That's a metaphor

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Speaker 3: for what's happening now. So think about that when you're.

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Speaker 1: Scrolling, and also think about that when you're buying ice cream,

504
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Speaker 1: because Jen and berries, Jen and berries that's what they

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Speaker 1: shold A new flavor jenen Berries, because they're now putting

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Speaker 1: out the banana split.

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Speaker 2: Maxton Love for some move, John Zy and unmanas Hondy

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Speaker 4: Floor