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Speaker 1: always was always will be. Oh hello and welcome to

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Speaker 1: two Good Sports Sports News told differently.

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Speaker 2: We're back.

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Speaker 3: I'm Georgie Tunney, who guess I'm Abby Delmy, and we

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Speaker 3: are so pumped to be back, because, my god, it

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Speaker 3: is a long off season where there was so much news.

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Speaker 3: The fact that Taylor Swift took over the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: it was a crime against humanity.

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Speaker 2: But we are back, George.

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Speaker 1: But the memories that that particular moment in sports culture

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Speaker 1: Viva Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe we've done that.

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Speaker 3: But we are changing things up a little bit this season.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to go with the headlines. We're just

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Speaker 3: going to give you something that George and I want

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Speaker 3: to talk about this week. Yes, and I said to Georgie,

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Speaker 3: you know what, mate, maybe talking about the Broncos every

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you did say that they went to Vegas. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I said, tell me, I hear you. But I'm

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Speaker 2: My loves, were in Viva Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: We're trying to do that with the Travis Kelvihills. So

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if it's coming across. But it

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Speaker 2: So the relevance, Yeah, the relevance it's there.

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Speaker 1: Look, the NRL Round one in Viva Las Vegas, there

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Speaker 1: Now Brewsters won that game, not the Broncos. That's okay,

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Speaker 1: idea that there is something called rugby league. It's like

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Speaker 1: This is a story that will still be fleshed out

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Speaker 2: Needs to be a very very significant suspension.

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Speaker 3: It seems so sad that an amazing event has been

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Speaker 3: And we're not going to repeat the language because it's

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Speaker 3: the sort of language that does not need any more airtime.

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Speaker 3: But it is so far beyond what is okay in society,

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Speaker 2: But other than that, other than that, Viva las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: But I do love the concept.

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Speaker 2: We're going to take this market for a spin.

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Speaker 3: So it is designed to try to engage that in

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Speaker 2: You just twitch then, please don't hit me. Do you

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Speaker 3: And the early numbers are showing that it's a sellout.

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Speaker 2: That's not what I want to talk about this week.

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Speaker 2: There's absolutely none. It's sickening. It is the biggest advertisement

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Speaker 3: And will AFL should they not get this out of

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Speaker 1: It is and it's something that we are going to

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Speaker 1: We've started so strongly. Will we have anything to talk about?

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Speaker 3: This week's topic. When it happened, I was champing at

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Speaker 2: Because we have had full disclosure.

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Speaker 1: Producer James and I have had messages, non stop messages

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Speaker 1: from jell Me in the off season being like, guys, guys, guys, guys,

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Speaker 2: The enhanced games, that's our deep dive, the Olympics on steroids.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to get emotional and passionate. Hold on George.

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Speaker 3: When I get asked why I love sport and doing

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Speaker 3: THEIRS watching Ozzie's give their all for one golden chance

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Speaker 1: The Olympics, I mean, the Olympics is definitely my first

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Speaker 2: There's nothing like it.

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Speaker 1: That is why I love sport is because I love

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Speaker 2: And the icons live forever.

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Speaker 3: We're talking Kathy, We're talking Thorpy, And if I may

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Speaker 3: get very personal, we're talking Herbie, grandpa, who won very

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Speaker 3: use I'm going to use his quote to frame our

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Speaker 3: It is the inspiration of the Olympic Games that drives

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Speaker 2: Enough to witness athletic dedication.

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Speaker 1: Now, who knew that Herbie was such a wordsmith? I

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Speaker 2: That he's so bright it actually hurts.

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Speaker 3: But this idea of the moral, the spiritual and what

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Speaker 3: by a concept that is got wings to the point

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Speaker 3: where this is going to happen. The enhanced Games, the

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Speaker 3: modern Olympics, where doping is okay, taking performance enhancing drugs

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Speaker 3: are encouraged. Take the record, will monitor your health. It's

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Speaker 3: safe science. But dope yourself to the gills. Direct quote

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Speaker 3: James Magnuson, former world champion, silver medalist Australian athlete now

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Speaker 3: a crack? You get one million dollars yep, if you

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Speaker 3: take down a world record. But is this Georgie bringing

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Speaker 1: Yes, short answer, Yes, this whole concept makes my absolute

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Speaker 3: of this is that it's going to be safer than

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Speaker 3: the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: The testing is going to be more rigorous.

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Speaker 3: They're going to test them from head to toe before lerecks,

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Speaker 3: because in their statement, it's not going to serve our

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Speaker 3: purpose people dropping dead running the hundred.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but then I would call into question then yes,

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Speaker 1: but what about the people that don't even make it

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Speaker 1: to the games? What about the people who sign up

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Speaker 1: for all of these fans the medicines and stuff. And

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Speaker 1: they may already do that anyway, but you're not being

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Speaker 1: at the moment financially or fiscally encouraged to do this stuff.

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Speaker 2: And that's what this concept does.

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Speaker 1: So I don't believe them that they can have possibly

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Speaker 1: have an individual's best interests at heart.

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Speaker 3: The way that Olympic athletes are being remunerated at the

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Speaker 3: moment has left a giant void, yes, for something like

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Speaker 3: this to come in and be attractive, because I don't

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Speaker 3: think you grow up wanting to cheat to be the

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Speaker 3: best in the world, or use drugs, which have always

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Speaker 3: been branded as cheating to our generation. But if someone

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Speaker 3: offers you something that is so ie a million US dollars,

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Speaker 3: it starts to become attractive, and that moral compass it

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Speaker 3: starts to sway, especially if they're not telling you that

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Speaker 3: it's a moral because forty four percent of athletes admit

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Speaker 3: to already doing it, so George, that's who admit in

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Speaker 3: a wider survey.

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Speaker 2: So using it hands, it's one in two. You are clean.

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Speaker 2: You are going to the starting line looking going. I'm

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Speaker 2: in the fifty percent. I'm in the minority here.

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Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't happen allegedly it's happening at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing we can do to stop it. There isn't

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Speaker 2: anything we can do to stop it.

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Speaker 1: But I hope that no one watches it, even though

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Speaker 1: full disclosure, I watched the CrossFit Games and that is

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Speaker 1: always like been very very.

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Speaker 2: Qua and I love the CrossFit cross fits.

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Speaker 3: One yes, people that are juiced up to their eyeballs joking, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, down off your moral high horse. This is different.

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Speaker 2: It's dips.

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Speaker 1: Somehow I can find the difference because in my head

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Speaker 1: it is far more prestigious. The Olympics, even though I

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Speaker 1: love the crossfitters, is far more prestigious to be it is, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you still.

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Speaker 2: Love watching people who are altered on the chin up bar.

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Speaker 1: But I just like any kind of sport, and that's

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Speaker 1: why I don't. I don't want this to be a thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't want people to do it. I agree with

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Speaker 1: you and that it's a it's a murky, murky murky one.

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Speaker 1: And I do you think that it raises questions that

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Speaker 1: I want the Olympic Committee to answer in terms of sustainability, remuneration,

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Speaker 1: all of that.

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Speaker 3: I'll leave you with this. I'll leave you with this

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Speaker 3: because this is the bit that got me. The statement

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Speaker 3: that was used was my body, my choice. If I

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Speaker 3: choose to be in the enhanced Games, isn't that my choice?

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Speaker 2: It is your choice.

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Speaker 3: If I choose to be paid by pharmaceutical companies who

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Speaker 3: sponsor me to trial essentially these.

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Speaker 2: Drugs, is that not my choice? It is your choice.

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Speaker 2: But I just think it can't be good. There is

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 1: There is a far more sinister under belly to this

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Speaker 1: concept than even doping in the Olympics, I think, because

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Speaker 1: it's all for a different purpose. It's trying to serve

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Speaker 1: a different purpose, which is big farmer coming to your.

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Speaker 2: Screens in four It is what help us. Oh, it's

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Speaker 2: fun fact time. Yes I've missed our fun facts. Oh

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Speaker 2: oh I really have.

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Speaker 3: We've got Olympics themed and we've both brought something different

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Speaker 3: to the parties.

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Speaker 2: Highs, loads of big blows. Blows you go first.

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Speaker 3: Okay, did you know in the first Olympics, Yes, everyone competed. Ever,

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Speaker 3: everyone competed naked because it was only blokes and can

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Speaker 3: you imagine.

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Speaker 2: The most home erotic thing that's ever happened? Of course

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Speaker 2: it really does fit in with the Olympics. Can I

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Speaker 2: just say women weren't allowed to compete into the nineteen hundreds?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Well on that note, apparently at the Paris Olympics, so

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Speaker 1: fast forward to wing clothes and try clothes will be

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Speaker 1: worn and apparently on the menu bananas people are going

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Speaker 1: to go on nuts for the bananas.

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Speaker 2: Three million bananas, three million expected to be consumed in

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Speaker 2: the village.

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Speaker 1: In the village, maybe a few bits around the village

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Speaker 1: as well, but in the village three million Nana's gobble couple.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just I'm getting my head around that because

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking I remember Michael Phelps to a day on

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Speaker 2: the plate them he wouldn't need like fifty eight part.

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Speaker 3: Of me is going, that's bullshit, and another part's going

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Speaker 3: Actually it was.

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Speaker 1: Always the ones though, right, you know, when it's like

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Speaker 1: swimmers in between breaks and whatever, everyone.

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Speaker 2: Just like chows down on banana because it's like a superfood.

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Speaker 3: Unless at the Australian Open there was sushi randomly remember that. No,

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Speaker 3: there was a player that was eating sushi and it

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Speaker 3: got a bit warm and I was like, yeah, because

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Speaker 3: you chat like why I'm gagging at the thought of

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Speaker 3: a bit of tuna and avo, why are you eating

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Speaker 3: sushi or rod labor Anyway, Another fun fact about the

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Speaker 3: Olympic circling back the six colors that you can see

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Speaker 3: on the Olympic flag. So the blue, yellow, black, green,

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Speaker 3: red and white with the background were chosen because every

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Speaker 3: nation's flag contains at least one of them.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's a bit lovely. So I did not know

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Speaker 2: that's really lovely. Enhanced games wishes, it was that lovely.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, that's so nuh. Final fine fact from me

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four Paris Olympics.

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Speaker 2: I've got Paris on the line. That's my theme is

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Speaker 2: that the Olympic.

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Speaker 1: So the opening ceremony for the Olympics is actually going

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Speaker 1: to be taking place on the seen, so that giant

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Speaker 1: river that runs through Paris. They're going to put all

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Speaker 1: the afflets I assume on barges and then just like

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Speaker 1: sail them on down.

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Speaker 3: I just think they saw an AFL Grand Final parade

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Speaker 3: during COVID where they put them down the arrow so

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Speaker 3: no one could touch them, and they have gone that

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Speaker 3: looks good, let's do I'm not sure about it.

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Speaker 2: I know that everyone loves the concept.

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Speaker 1: Well. Their argument is that will get more people to

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Speaker 1: be able to see them, because more people will be

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Speaker 1: able to pack the banks of the sin then will

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Speaker 1: be able to fit into a stadium, is their argument.

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Speaker 1: But also after the scenes that we saw on the

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Speaker 1: beautiful Yarrah.

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Speaker 2: We'll put it this way, they're circled back, haven't they.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't happen anymore with the players held hostage and

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Speaker 2: surely the longest kick over the Yarra. But that's about it.

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Speaker 1: Imagine the sites of just like a boat running into

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Speaker 1: like a trillion year old bridge on something and it's

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Speaker 1: just like, oh no, we've stuffed that up. We've stuffed

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Speaker 1: that up, guys, Team Australia.

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Speaker 3: But again, two good sports, very open for a partnership

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Speaker 3: and tour of the Paris Game. So if anyone wants

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Speaker 3: us to count the three million bananas, we're available.

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Speaker 2: May we be a venue. We are fluent in Zilangorage,

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Speaker 2: so please hit us up ah ah before we get

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Speaker 2: in trouble. That is it for our first episode.

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Speaker 1: That is it, our first episode of two Good Sports.

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Speaker 1: We are back.

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Speaker 2: I have loved it. Tell me what we desperately need

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Speaker 2: to know.

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Speaker 3: How you feel about the enhanced game so we can

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Speaker 3: solidify how we feel ourselves. Hit us up on social media,

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Speaker 3: let us know, and as always, it's