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Speaker 1: Joining us live in the studio is the Lord Mayor

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Speaker 1: of Darwin convat Scarless get acn.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Katy. It was the beautiful season and the

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Speaker 2: tourist seems to be arriving. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully, hopefully we end up with plenty of tourists

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Speaker 1: around the place.

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Speaker 2: I hope so.

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Speaker 3: But again, we have a lot to offer and hopefully

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Speaker 3: we'll get really cold very quickly down south, so.

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Speaker 1: We want to come here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good point, good point.

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Speaker 3: And with the airlines charging whatever they like to fly overseas,

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Speaker 3: it looks like more people were coming to Australia staying

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Speaker 3: in Australia holidays.

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Speaker 1: Although it did I did read the paper this morning

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Speaker 1: with interest in the Northern Territory News. It looks like

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Speaker 1: the City of Darwin's not the only ones in dispute

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Speaker 1: with the with the Airport Development Group over the increasing

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Speaker 1: or changing For you guys, it's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a different scenario with your rates. But yeah, Virgin Airlines

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Speaker 1: by the look of it, in dispute with the Airport

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Speaker 1: Development Group over some of the increases to their services.

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Speaker 3: So I know that would be interesting because not the

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Speaker 3: bad guy after all, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the judge and jury air con so I

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Speaker 1: won't determine that, but look keep an eye on that.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 1: City of Darwin has teamed up with the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: Police Strikeforce Triedent Task Force through the Territory Community Safety

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Speaker 1: Coordination Center to collaborate to improve community safety by installing

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Speaker 1: ballards in Malac.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we did.

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Speaker 3: We had a lot of times actually people using the

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Speaker 3: green belt as an escape route when they're changed by

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Speaker 3: the police.

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Speaker 2: So we talked to the police.

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Speaker 3: The police identify a number of areas in the Malac

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Speaker 3: green Belt area, so we install the first ballards to

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Speaker 3: block access to the green lands in Malac, in Holstland

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Speaker 3: green Belt area. And of course the local residents are fantastic.

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Speaker 3: They love it and the police said, now we're going

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Speaker 3: to get you because you can't drive the car through

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Speaker 3: that one because the ballards will stop you.

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Speaker 2: So great initiative. I want to continue that one. And

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Speaker 2: that's part of what we see as crime prevention. This

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Speaker 2: is actually does something.

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Speaker 3: This actually stops people of the at trucks they try

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Speaker 3: to escape when the police chase them.

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Speaker 2: They can't take the car through the green area.

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Speaker 3: And we've seen the past some people driving on the

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Speaker 3: grass areas in this area is ruining the grass.

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Speaker 2: And also causing problems for the local residents.

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Speaker 1: So Corn, how did you determine exactly which areas need them?

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Speaker 1: I mean, are these spots that have been notorious for

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Speaker 1: stolen cars driving on those areas?

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Speaker 2: We asked the police.

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Speaker 3: Yep. We listen to what the police to say and

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Speaker 3: we act because at the end of the day, they're

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Speaker 3: the ones who are fully aware where the problems are.

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Speaker 3: There's almost point of me doing something just to look

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Speaker 2: We do things actually are going to.

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Speaker 1: Be effective, well fair enough, and I actually think if

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Speaker 1: you can get those ballards there, if it's going to

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Speaker 1: stop people from being able to escape in stolen cars,

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Speaker 1: then it has to be a good thing. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: the police.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that was the first one, because we've got more

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Speaker 2: coming up whereabouts. It will be the Bayfield Park again.

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Speaker 3: In the recommendation of the police striking force dreadon and

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Speaker 3: around Moody Court in Craigan Court, Abrahams Court, Pittman Court

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Speaker 3: as identified by the City of Darwill. Now we had

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Speaker 3: the local councils there listen to the people, come to us,

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Speaker 3: talk to us and we as a council decide, Okay.

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Speaker 2: We've got a problem there, let's act. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Part of the better part programs we've got next year.

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Speaker 3: By the million dollars for things like that, local councilors

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Speaker 3: can come around with some areas identify they need attention.

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Speaker 2: We're happy to spend money there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. I think it is if it can

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Speaker 1: that can only be a good thing. Now, yesterday the

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Speaker 1: Police Minister joined us on the show and confirmed that

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Speaker 1: the government's actually added an extra security patrol for the city.

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Speaker 1: That's despite you saying that they don't work. What do

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Speaker 3: You can put as many patrols as you like. It's

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Speaker 3: the police on the streets that's missing. But I'm very

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Speaker 3: pleased to here to see that. Obviously the Chief Minister.

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Speaker 3: Think the Chief Minister you're listening to one or four

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Speaker 3: point nine and Katie, because me and Kate been happing

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Speaker 3: about police on the.

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Speaker 2: Streets for a lower past four six years.

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Speaker 3: And now we see and I'll hear the grapevine that

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Speaker 3: the seventy policemen will graduate from the Police academy in June,

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Speaker 3: will be all staying in dow With to be patrol

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That's why it would be asking all along the till

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Speaker 3: color patrols look great, fantastic by the dark blue answer,

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Speaker 3: they want to do the hard work.

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Speaker 1: He did say they're going to stay in place though,

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Speaker 1: and that yes, things are going to be very different

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Speaker 1: sort of come June when we have got additional police

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Speaker 1: on the beat. I mean on Friday, though, I was

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Speaker 1: utterly naked near the rainbow crossing near them all there.

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Speaker 1: I then noted at the end of that video that

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Speaker 1: there was a mom sort of trying to shield her

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Speaker 1: young child from the totally naked woman in our CBD

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Speaker 1: in broad.

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Speaker 2: Daylight, Coln.

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Speaker 1: This is literally like probably at three o'clock in the

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Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty meters from the police station.

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Speaker 3: Now that I believe that woman was the same woman

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Speaker 3: that John John sent me a video many months ago

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Speaker 3: when the then Chief Minister and was in Tokyo.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't know all the.

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Speaker 3: Videos thread where to do it, Natasha said, Look, and

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Speaker 3: I doesn't what's happening town and within minutes I got

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Speaker 3: a phone call back from Natasha telling me that to

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Speaker 3: instruct the police to do something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been told at that time though that it

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Speaker 1: was a mental health related issue.

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Speaker 2: Means the same woman, you know, and I.

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Speaker 1: Understand that everybody understands that. You know that there is

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Speaker 1: going to be mental health issues that need to be

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Speaker 1: time from the Northern Territory government that you've you know,

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Speaker 1: that they're trying to intervene before a crime is committed,

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Speaker 1: or they're trying to intervene early. Well, here's an example

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Speaker 1: of intervening. If somebody needs mental health support, let's let them,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's try to help them before they're at

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Speaker 3: We've I heard the other day Bill mcgorran, the Australian

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Speaker 3: of the Year, who's a psychiatrist psychologist, He said, we

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Speaker 3: have taken money away from the system because we don't

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Speaker 3: they cause all sorts of problems and crime. We have

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Speaker 3: failed these people. These people need attention, this need hospitalization

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Speaker 3: need to be looked after because it supports it's and

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Speaker 3: then it's support. And we have taken this money with

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Speaker 3: this idea. Oh no, no, we can't keep them ministructions.

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Speaker 3: They have to be at the community where they can't.

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Speaker 3: A lot of them can't because they don't take the medicine.

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Speaker 3: And we've got a situation like the one in Sydney

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Speaker 3: Do we have to wait until somebody gets killed or

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Speaker 3: at number of we get killed before we start saying again, oh,

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Speaker 3: we did something wrong. I mean, this poor woman, probably

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Speaker 3: he didn't take a medicine. There's nobody to provide the medicine.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't know what she's doing, and she's out in

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Speaker 3: the streets. And then we said, oh, look, woman naked

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Speaker 3: in the street. But look at the underlying courses. Why

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Speaker 3: this woman is in the street, why she's taking the

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Speaker 3: clothes off, is it a serious mental problem, and why

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're fair questions to ask. Con Speaking

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Speaker 1: of questions, I've got one here from one of our listeners.

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Speaker 1: It says, good morning, Katie. It's disgusting that the council's

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Speaker 1: withdrawing from the withdrawing from the city security. Most of

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Speaker 1: the issues in town are due to council not doing

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Speaker 1: their job the control public space and camping in the city.

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Speaker 1: A few years back, Mango farmers could not get backpackers

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Speaker 1: due to camping fines. Why is the council not doing

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Speaker 1: anything with this? It starts with council moving people on

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Speaker 1: when they're long grassing, slash camping. And yeah, that one

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Speaker 1: there from Marco questioning why we were several years ago

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Speaker 1: moving vans on that were camping, let's say at East

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Speaker 1: doing the same if we've got people camping who are

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Speaker 3: With all due respect Marco, we've got actually patrolling our

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Speaker 2: We move people wherever we can.

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Speaker 3: We have moved them many too many times. The problem

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Speaker 3: we've got here is we actually trying to stem the

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Speaker 3: the alcohol and they stay here and I haven't got

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Speaker 3: the capacity, unless, of course you want the twenty percent

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Speaker 3: to clean the place up. This is a problem caused

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Speaker 3: not by council, caused by inaction of successive governments. We've

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Speaker 3: got a BDR that people actually refuse to enforce it

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Speaker 3: because of privacy reasons. Put it plans. It's bullshit if

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Speaker 3: you break the law. There's no privacy reasons when it

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Speaker 3: work with DR, and nobody has been prosecuting the past

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Speaker 3: three years for second supply. To play the council is

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Speaker 3: the easy way out. There's so much a council can

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Speaker 3: do with the resources they've got and the money they've got.

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Speaker 3: We have gone beyond our capacity increase as our ranges

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Speaker 3: Outreach group that goes out every morning and talk to

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Speaker 3: some of them because they want to come here and party.

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Speaker 2: But to blame e the council, it's unfair.

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Speaker 3: Council has a role to play, but to do controlling

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Speaker 3: alcohol and police force.

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Speaker 2: This is not their role.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, the thing is years ago, we were

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Speaker 1: actually moving on people when they were camping in the city.

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Speaker 1: Like you can't deny that we had backpackers, you know,

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Speaker 1: camping in their vans and that kind of thing. They

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Speaker 1: were getting moved on. What's the difference.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've got people that come in without any ideas.

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Speaker 2: We don't know who they are.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, even if we find them, will

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Speaker 3: never collect the fine and they will never go to

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Speaker 3: they have to pay their fines, so there's an enforcement

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Speaker 3: issue as well. I can go only but what the

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Speaker 3: find them. And even if I find them and never pay.

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Speaker 1: you hoping anything that the Council is hoping to see

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Speaker 1: from the Northern Territory government budget being handed down today

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Speaker 1: or the federal budget being handed down tonight.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll be calling us legin local governments social of

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Speaker 3: the Territory as sustainable government. We need at le local

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Speaker 3: government properly funded and the government not to put any

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Speaker 3: possible obstructions to let's say, to local government, for example,

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Speaker 3: housing trying to not to pay rates on the houses

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Speaker 3: that the government's given to them to manage because they

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Speaker 3: tell us that they are doing a good job and

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Speaker 3: we should be rating it.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: If we don't rate this one, there's a council in

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Speaker 3: the territory that will lose thirty percent of their rate base.

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Speaker 3: That means the seventy percent of the people to pay rates,

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Speaker 3: they have to have an increase between six and ten percent,

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Speaker 3: and that is unfair, you tike.

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Speaker 1: And everyone on with their rights at the moment time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the problem. We survive because of the age.

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Speaker 3: We do what we do because of the age. If

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Speaker 3: you don't pay rates, fine we close all the laborage down,

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Speaker 3: or the fun buses or the things we do for

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Speaker 3: aged people. Or will not collect your abbitish once for

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Speaker 3: a week, We'll collect once a month if that one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're going to have a lot, who's

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Speaker 3: going to fix your roads the potholes and everything else?

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Speaker 3: MOI the grass in the parks where your kids play sports.

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Speaker 3: The council is not there to make money. It's actually

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Speaker 3: there to return the money you give to the council

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Speaker 3: back to you as a community.

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Speaker 1: Con always good to catch up with you. We'll have

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Speaker 1: to leave it there for this morning, a very busy

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Speaker 1: day ahead.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your time, My pleasure.