Speaker 1: Laura and come on in. Hello everyone, Hi, welcome to
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: Happy Friday.
Speaker 3: Do you guys think that I look more glowy or
Speaker 3: my skin is tort or I look healthier?
Speaker 2: No? Nope, No, you.
Speaker 4: Want us to say yes, Brick a trick question, Brick,
Speaker 4: what have you done?
Speaker 3: I've been on my sauna ice bath little, I'm in
Speaker 3: that era. I'm on my ice bath journey to see
Speaker 3: like how long I can get to.
Speaker 4: Me how you've been doing it for? Because I don't
Speaker 4: think it's instantaneous. What's three weeks? Four times a week?
Speaker 4: Because it opened across the road from my house. So
Speaker 4: I decide to go and I'm there in two minutes.
Speaker 4: It's becomes such a fad, hey, like everyone doing their
Speaker 4: ice bath and doing their infra red sauna.
Speaker 1: People post it and I go, I don't want to
Speaker 1: watch you in a normal because there's nothing special about it.
Speaker 1: It's you getting into it. But people just look like.
Speaker 3: Everyone's doing getting into the saunas, and it's predominantly men.
Speaker 5: It's not a single sauna.
Speaker 3: You go into the sauna and it's like ten people
Speaker 3: can fit in there anyway.
Speaker 1: In one sauna.
Speaker 2: In there and being a guy and in walks Britney Hackley.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm going to come every single day, well the
Speaker 1: other day.
Speaker 5: With me and a multitude of men.
Speaker 3: But the men come and go right because they come
Speaker 3: as they do my whole lives.
Speaker 2: They do get my own tyler.
Speaker 3: But they come in for a couple of minutes and
Speaker 3: they go into their ice bad and so many men
Speaker 3: come through, and I was like, I'm going to get
Speaker 3: I just sat in the corner and was quiet. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get such an insight into like what men talk about,
Speaker 3: like with the boys looker room shirt. Anyway, I cannot
Speaker 3: tell you every It was the most boring thing I've
Speaker 3: ever heard.
Speaker 2: Every single man that came in.
Speaker 3: The new person came in, sat down, looked at the
Speaker 3: other person that was already in there, and goes, what
Speaker 3: do you do?
Speaker 5: And a guy goes ten and two? And I was like,
Speaker 5: what are they talking about?
Speaker 2: Oh, they're talking about the amount of time in the
Speaker 2: ice bar. Yes, of course they were. They're so competitive.
Speaker 2: But that's it. Every that is the only thing.
Speaker 3: Six seven different men came in, looked at each other,
Speaker 3: looked at them sweating, like how many today?
Speaker 5: Well comparing sizes yep, twelve and three.
Speaker 3: That's what it was twelve and three that they did
Speaker 3: not talk about one other thing except and I was like,
Speaker 3: this is.
Speaker 1: How do you even enjoy that?
Speaker 4: Because they're so cold they can't their brain cun't. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they can't take it, like me right now, their brain
Speaker 4: can't tick over anything else.
Speaker 5: I was like, ten too, I do twenty five and eighteen?
Speaker 1: Do you start making up numbers.
Speaker 5: Yewel that I don't need to fit in? I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: ninety four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, four and a half a cup is what I do. God,
Speaker 1: will you look Gillot, that's all the matters today on
Speaker 1: the show. Speaking of hot that's a problematic segue. But
Speaker 1: we're talking playboy, the playboy mansion, Hugh Hefner.
Speaker 4: I mean, we have Crystal Hefner joining us on the
Speaker 4: show today. And if you don't remember who Crystal Hefner is,
Speaker 4: she was twenty six years old when she married Hugh Hefner,
Speaker 4: who at the time was eighty six years old. He's
Speaker 4: a playboy king, he is He's the absolute playboy tycoon.
Speaker 4: And this made I mean, it was headline news all
Speaker 4: across the world. But the reason why we're getting Crystal
Speaker 4: on is because she's just released a book talking about
Speaker 4: all of her regrets from that time in the Playboy
Speaker 4: Mansion and incredibly eye opening.
Speaker 1: All Right, Crystal Heffner joins us here at the pick
Speaker 1: up around Australia to end the week.
Speaker 5: Hey, I want to talk to you guys about the
Speaker 5: Playboy Mansion.
Speaker 3: I know that seems a little bit left field, but
Speaker 3: bear with me. Hugh Hefner, Like, when you think about
Speaker 3: Hugh Hefner, Mitch, what do you think what comes to
Speaker 3: your mind?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm as a token Aussie bloke, you know, I
Speaker 1: love nothing more than a little soft bunny girl. Know
Speaker 1: they wear the little tails, the cotton butt tail. I
Speaker 1: know what you mean.
Speaker 4: And you're a bit younger, Mitch, so like I would say,
Speaker 4: you would have been quite young when it was really
Speaker 4: really prolific, like when the Playboy Mansion, and like the
Speaker 4: TV show there was a reality TV show around Playboy
Speaker 4: when it was like really in the media, it was
Speaker 4: probably a little bit before your time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I missed the hype. But my thought on the
Speaker 1: Playboy Mansion is it's always been betrayed to me as
Speaker 1: cool party epic, Like there's never any.
Speaker 2: Mega celebrities were going to it totally.
Speaker 1: I mean I used to wear Playboy deodorant. I had
Speaker 1: the Playboy after shave, I had a Playboy Bunny it
Speaker 1: on a shirt and I had it on socks. I
Speaker 1: bought into the hype of it.
Speaker 5: Did you ever buy the Playboy magazine?
Speaker 1: Wasn't much there for me. It wasn't really going off
Speaker 1: for me now.
Speaker 3: I mean I remember, I feel like I was a
Speaker 3: teenager when it really blew up.
Speaker 2: Right, But you looked at it.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say aspirational in terms of you
Speaker 3: didn't want to be a Playboy Bunny, but it was
Speaker 3: aspirational because the parties that they threw were so elaborate,
Speaker 3: and Hugh would walk in. Hugh was on the front
Speaker 3: cover of every magazine he created, the Brain, Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: the owner of Playboy, of the calendars, the TV show,
Speaker 3: the Mansion, literally everything, and every Hollywood star would go
Speaker 3: to these parties. You remember seeing Hugh with all these beautiful, keyword,
Speaker 3: very young women on his arm and one No one
Speaker 3: ever thought that was strange. Everyone was just like, wow,
Speaker 3: look at Hugh Hefner's new girlfriend that's sixty years his junior.
Speaker 4: Well at the time, I mean, he was celebrated for it,
Speaker 4: and I think people more so judged the girl than
Speaker 4: they ever judged him for it. And it's actually, I
Speaker 4: think now if you look back on it and you
Speaker 4: look at it with the twenty twenty four lens, and
Speaker 4: I think that there's been a lot of media that's
Speaker 4: come out over the years that makes us scrutinize these
Speaker 4: periods a little bit better. And so, you know, when
Speaker 4: when he was in his eighties he had two nineteen
Speaker 4: year old twins as girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Imagine that happening.
Speaker 4: They were sisters, They were sisters twins, and they were
Speaker 4: his like number one and two girlfriends for a little
Speaker 4: while there. And then when Crystal Hefner, who were going
Speaker 4: to have on the show shortly when she joined the
Speaker 4: Playboy mansioned she was only twenty years old. It's he
Speaker 4: really found the broken young birds, like the really young
Speaker 4: girls who had broken homes, who had issues happening in
Speaker 4: their lives, and he brought them into this world that
Speaker 4: seemed like fairy tale. Mate.
Speaker 1: Believe you're right, aren't either? You think in those days
Speaker 1: we glorified it. But if that happened, why would if
Speaker 1: there was a reality TV show now where that was happening,
Speaker 1: It wouldn't make it to edge treads.
Speaker 2: Do you know what we found out?
Speaker 3: So Laura and I spoke with Crystal Hefner, who is
Speaker 3: Hugh Hefner's widow.
Speaker 2: So they end up getting married.
Speaker 1: And he's died. I forget that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he died.
Speaker 3: And it's very interesting. We're going to find out a
Speaker 3: little bit about where he's buried and why. It's very,
Speaker 3: very fascinating. But we spoke with his widow, Crystal Heffner,
Speaker 3: who was a playboy bunny. She did become the main
Speaker 3: girlfriend and the wife. She lived with him. It completely
Speaker 3: changes your perception on everything that you thought about that mansion,
Speaker 3: about Hugh and about the situation. She was truly fascinating. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean she was sixty years younger than him.
Speaker 1: Yes, so quickly. She was married to him when he passed.
Speaker 2: She was married to him when he passed.
Speaker 1: So she loves the man. Is it a fond we know?
Speaker 4: Talk about that and also I think some of the
Speaker 4: really sad things she talks about, the regrets that she
Speaker 4: has and how she views that time now. She talks
Speaker 4: about it being humiliating, but also something else is and
Speaker 4: what has not been reported on because she's written an
Speaker 4: incredible book around it. She talks about the financial abuse
Speaker 4: that she received, and you know, everyone said she's a
Speaker 4: gold digger, she's doing it for money, but really she
Speaker 4: was getting a pittance from him and it wasn't enough
Speaker 4: to leave, and she was being exploited in these reality
Speaker 4: TV shows.
Speaker 2: It's shocking when you hear the real story.
Speaker 3: And she did tell us something absolutely fascinating that has to.
Speaker 5: Do with Marilyn Munroe and how Marilyn Munroe.
Speaker 3: Was literally linked to the beginning of Playboy Mansion and
Speaker 3: how she was abused, and we're going to play that
Speaker 3: for you next.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 1: Crystal Hefner joins us on the pickuff after this, Dann Bay.
Speaker 4: We've been talking about the incredible story of Krystal Hefner. So,
Speaker 4: Crystal Hefner, she was Hugh Hefner's wife, sixty years younger
Speaker 4: than her. And you're not the play Yeah, if you're
Speaker 4: not familiar with who Hugh Hefner is, he was the
Speaker 4: Playboy tycoon. He started and he organized and he ran
Speaker 4: everything to do with the Playboy.
Speaker 1: The cigar. He had those silk gowns and the sailor's hat.
Speaker 1: Your captain's hat and all.
Speaker 2: The little bunny is and the little bunny tail.
Speaker 5: It grosses me out now that I think about it,
Speaker 5: isn't it.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 4: I mean, we had the most incredible chat this week
Speaker 4: on my fun Cut podcast with Crystal Hefner, who is
Speaker 4: Hugh's widow, and she really lifted the curtain behind some
Speaker 4: of the I mean, I don't even know how you
Speaker 4: just like the trauma, the atrocities, like some of the
Speaker 4: things that she experienced while she was married to him
Speaker 4: and part of the Playboy Mansion. But one thing that
Speaker 4: she shared with us I think was so interesting and
Speaker 4: so many people would not know this about how Hugh Hefner,
Speaker 4: how he actually got into and how he became famous,
Speaker 4: how Playboy Mansion started, and it has to do with
Speaker 4: Marilyn Monroe. So have a listen to this.
Speaker 3: Speaking of financial abuse, talk to us about what hef
Speaker 3: did to Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 6: Oh, that is hard for me because his whole empire
Speaker 6: was started with calendar photos of Marilyn Monroe. He bought
Speaker 6: calendar photos that people heard of but they had never
Speaker 6: seen of Marilyn Monroe. She was nude, she had no say,
Speaker 6: she made no money and that created HEF's entire empire,
Speaker 6: and he paid her nothing. When he was getting old
Speaker 6: and he was not far from the end of his life,
Speaker 6: he said, I don't care about my funeral. You know
Speaker 6: where I want to be buried, And where he wanted
Speaker 6: to be buried was Westwood Memorial, right next to Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 6: He bought the plot in the nineties and Mike, this
Speaker 6: woman that he exploited, created this whole empire off of
Speaker 6: this woman, and now she has absolutely no say and
Speaker 6: whose bones will be lying next to her?
Speaker 3: So he literally just bought photos of her off the
Speaker 3: internet just that already existed rights.
Speaker 2: The rights to them will not even.
Speaker 5: Right, So I don't think it was rights.
Speaker 3: Back then you could just purchase a photo, so anyone
Speaker 3: could have used it. But he turned that into nude
Speaker 3: calendar then made his empire, and she couldn't approve it,
Speaker 3: couldn't find it, and be didn't get a cent.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he collected enough money from wherever to buy her
Speaker 6: photos from a calendar company. I think he bought them
Speaker 6: for seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: I mean, no things are changing in this world. But
Speaker 4: if anyone's familiar with em Rata's story around the photographer
Speaker 4: who released nude photos of her. It's really farrowing for
Speaker 4: a lot of young models who do nude photos as
Speaker 4: part of their you know, when they're getting their books
Speaker 4: together or they're trying they just want to get seen
Speaker 4: and noticed in the industry, and so they do what
Speaker 4: they might think are artistic photos, but they're probably more
Speaker 4: new than what.
Speaker 2: They thought they were going to be.
Speaker 4: And then the person who owns the royalties to those photos,
Speaker 4: the rights to those photos, is the photographer.
Speaker 2: It's never the model.
Speaker 4: They sign release forms that sign those things away, and
Speaker 4: that's what's happened in this instance with Marilyn Monroe. She
Speaker 4: has no rights to the images, even though the images
Speaker 4: are of her. The person who took those images has
Speaker 4: full rights and you can purchase the licensing to distribute
Speaker 4: it as you would, which just sounds crazy, but it's
Speaker 4: something that still happens to models today, and it's only
Speaker 4: if they're educated enough to know otherwise that they can
Speaker 4: protect themselves.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I think of Marilyn Monroe. She, you know,
Speaker 6: pinup was really big then, and she probably just went
Speaker 6: and did the shoot for this pin up company and
Speaker 6: then maybe the photographer convinced her to like take off
Speaker 6: a little bit. You know, that's happened to me before,
Speaker 6: where the photographers are like, oh, he moved the strap
Speaker 6: down a little bit. And you know, I've called all
Speaker 6: them out since because I'm like, you guys are disgusting.
Speaker 6: But yeah, her shoe probably went a little bit further
Speaker 6: than she wanted to. Or you know, she was obviously
Speaker 6: from a broken home and she was you know, in
Speaker 6: an orphanage, and she like had to get married out
Speaker 6: of it to get out of it. And you know,
Speaker 6: this is obviously a girl who was vulnerable and people
Speaker 6: took advantage of that.
Speaker 2: And it's sad.
Speaker 1: God, that's wild.
Speaker 3: Isn't it insane that you can completely like take someone's photo,
Speaker 3: build an empire, basically steal their life, make so much money,
Speaker 3: not give them a cent, and then demand to be
Speaker 3: buried next to them.
Speaker 1: Was the product of the times, right, you can't get
Speaker 1: away with that now. That just it's such a shame
Speaker 1: that we let that happen. In front of it we
Speaker 1: all celebrated him. Meanwhile he was abusing all these women.
Speaker 2: Profited off them.
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting, you guys, remember em Rada a
Speaker 4: similar thing happened to her with her nud the model
Speaker 4: stim Radkowski. So she had a photographer taken nude photos
Speaker 4: of her when she was really young, only like eighteen
Speaker 4: years old, seventeen years old, first getting into modeling, and
Speaker 4: then when she became famous, he sold those nude photos
Speaker 4: and they were only meant to be test shots and
Speaker 4: she had no right to them. She had no ownership
Speaker 4: over her digital image. And it's crazy that these things
Speaker 4: you can be separated from your own photo when you're
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 2: It's just crazy.
Speaker 3: You know what's sad is when you think about Playboy,
Speaker 3: you associated with Marilyn Monroe, but you had no idea
Speaker 3: that she didn't choose that, and she was used. Growing up,
Speaker 3: you always thought that she was a part of it,
Speaker 3: and you must have assumed that was by choice, rightly, so.
Speaker 1: You'd think she had new photos there. Of course she
Speaker 1: approved this.
Speaker 3: And to learn that that was completely out of anything
Speaker 3: that she ever agreed to or had any capacity to
Speaker 3: do anything about, is absolutely deserted.
Speaker 1: And what a slipe in the face to go. You
Speaker 1: know what, put me where she's buried, Yeah, put me
Speaker 1: on top of it.
Speaker 2: Shows what a narcissity is.
Speaker 3: Hey, if you want to hear more to that chat,
Speaker 3: it's so interesting and Crystal lifts the veil on a
Speaker 3: lot of different things that happened in that mansion. You
Speaker 3: can head over to Life Uncut Podcasts and you can
Speaker 3: just search for Playboy Mansion or Crystal Heffner and the
Speaker 3: whole chat is there all right.
Speaker 1: Next the show, it is Friday. We do it every week.
Speaker 1: We want you to share your little win of the week.
Speaker 1: We're talking like when you go through drive through at
Speaker 1: Macs and they give you ten nuggets instead of six.
Speaker 1: That's a little win.
Speaker 2: Oh, it could be a bit bigger than that. That
Speaker 2: feels like a really little week.
Speaker 5: That was actually my win.
Speaker 2: Was really imagine getting an extra nuggy.
Speaker 1: An extra four.
Speaker 2: Imagine it happened.
Speaker 1: We need your little wins. Thirteen one, I six y five.
Speaker 1: How is this week being great? We'll give you five
Speaker 1: hundred bucks at Chemist Square House up for grabs at
Speaker 1: the pick up call us. Now we are just after
Speaker 1: your little wins. So we do this every week. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like a nice way to end the show,
Speaker 1: isn't it on a Friday?
Speaker 4: Such a feel good way And often, you know, when
Speaker 4: we think about like the wins. You think about the
Speaker 4: big things that happen in your life, but this is
Speaker 4: just nice to kind of focus on those smaller moments.
Speaker 2: Let me give you an example.
Speaker 5: I went to the dog park yesterday.
Speaker 2: Now, any dog.
Speaker 3: Owners will know that there are some very particular bouncy
Speaker 3: balls that dogs have that are quite expensive, like twenty
Speaker 3: five dollars.
Speaker 2: They're like this orange ball.
Speaker 3: And there were no dogs at the dog park and
Speaker 3: someone who obviously lost their ball, so I took it
Speaker 3: on another man's trash.
Speaker 2: Is someone else's treasure my treasure.
Speaker 1: I was cleaning out my car. I found a scratchy
Speaker 1: in the side of the bin. Scratched it opened two
Speaker 1: dollars win on my.
Speaker 2: Way and un scratchy? Who scratchy was it?
Speaker 1: That's it must have been mine?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Was that? Did you buy scratches my car? I can't
Speaker 1: imagine someone getting in my car with a scratchy falling
Speaker 1: out of their pocket unless it was from Santilas.
Speaker 2: That well.
Speaker 4: Look, my little win for the week is that my
Speaker 4: my kids and my husband went away on a cruise.
Speaker 4: I had my first night sleep through without being woken
Speaker 4: up by kids, even though I love them so much.
Speaker 2: I'll wait for them till.
Speaker 1: We've got Amelia. On thirteen on I sixty five, hit
Speaker 1: us with your little windmills.
Speaker 7: I'm celebrating my completion of the dual certificate in Animal
Speaker 7: Studies that's taken me three years to complete. I'll achieved
Speaker 7: this despite COVID lockdowns which resulted in no placements, having
Speaker 7: heard Crovid twice and also having one to do fealty.
Speaker 4: Oh, Amelia, meanly, that's a human massive win.
Speaker 1: That's not a little win, Amelia. So so what is
Speaker 1: the degree again? One more time? Animal studies?
Speaker 7: You say animal studies. I'm training to manage behaviors in animals,
Speaker 7: so like being an animal trainer, so helping like the
Speaker 7: dogs that have behavior.
Speaker 4: As I said, there my bark, Amelia, we need to
Speaker 4: get you in for Brits Doglight.
Speaker 2: We'll be hiring your first job.
Speaker 1: To me for a second. And Amelia, that is such
Speaker 1: a little win. Stay there, Patrick, hollo mate, are you
Speaker 1: you're celebrating a little win? Patty?
Speaker 7: Two little wins for me. First one was on Sunday,
Speaker 7: celebrated six years with my beautiful partner Monisa. Congratulation, thank you,
Speaker 7: thank you, appreciate it. And then on Monday, we got
Speaker 7: the news that our first home purchase has been approve.
Speaker 3: Is so exciting, there's no better feeling like it's so exciting.
Speaker 1: I hope your partner doesn't hear that you're branding it
Speaker 1: as a little win. I mean, that's a pretty pretty
Speaker 1: mental it's pretty big.
Speaker 4: That's so exciting. Congratulations.
Speaker 1: It's got the hard hard going to be hard to
Speaker 1: pick a winner today. They're pretty beautiful. You guys could
Speaker 1: say yes to that, maybe, yeah, are what's your little win? High?
Speaker 7: But I feel like I've I've lost a bit of
Speaker 7: a friend this week.
Speaker 6: But I'm also very proud of myself.
Speaker 7: I have dropped off a bag of donations two Vinnis
Speaker 7: that I've had shing a boot four weeks.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that truly is a little win.
Speaker 4: Everyone knows that feeling of putting a bag of Salvo's
Speaker 4: clothes into your car and then driving around with them
Speaker 4: for six months.
Speaker 5: Okay, I have had no joke.
Speaker 3: You've just reminded me because I don't go to the
Speaker 3: in my car Ever's just have a bag in my
Speaker 3: car that I have had in there probably for eight months,
Speaker 3: and I have a bag under my bed ready to
Speaker 3: go as well. You have just reminded me that I
Speaker 3: need is dropping in. That's a great one, and I
Speaker 3: know who I think.
Speaker 1: Let's saying on three one, two three? Are you getting
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks at chemist home?
Speaker 7: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I'm really atulation.
Speaker 3: I hope that you have a very long and wonderful
Speaker 3: career with the animals.
Speaker 7: Oh well, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: And congrats and all your study. That's so beautiful.
Speaker 1: Three years COVID twice, I mean, what a crap. It's tough.
Speaker 2: Studying is tough. Let alone be in COVID.
Speaker 1: We will be back on their Monday. And we got
Speaker 1: Julia Morrison Robert Irwin in because I'm a celebstard in
Speaker 1: a week and.
Speaker 5: Oh that's so exciting. I'm so excited to talk to
Speaker 5: Robert Irwin.
Speaker 2: That's a great night, guys.
Speaker 1: No it's only four pm, but sure.
Speaker 2: I mean we're straight into the weekend. Have a great Saturday, everyone,