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Speaker 1: five Victoria's contestants Eliza and Liberty, arguably the most popular
Speaker 1: contestants from The Block twenty twenty three. This series of
Speaker 1: the Block, we have seen more drama than any other
Speaker 1: theories so far, and after nineteen seasons. That's a pretty
Speaker 1: big statement to make. Viewers have been up in arms,
Speaker 1: Karen's on keyboards are out of control, and even radio
Speaker 1: hosts have been calling out contestants. But the ratings are
Speaker 1: up and it is currently the most watched show on television.
Speaker 1: Some may say Eliza and Liberty's contribution to the series
Speaker 1: has been just what the series needed to balance out
Speaker 1: some of the drama, and others may say that they
Speaker 1: are a part of the problem. But both have potential
Speaker 1: media careers to consider, and today we're going to get
Speaker 1: to the bottom of their thoughts and feelings on every
Speaker 1: bit of their time on The Block twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: I will talk about their issues with House three and
Speaker 1: how they feel about the way in which Christy and
Speaker 1: Brett have been trolled online. We will find out everything
Speaker 1: you need to know about their relationship with Hamish and Andy,
Speaker 1: from if they help them to get on the show
Speaker 1: to if Andy is actually going to buy their house.
Speaker 1: You will get the girls' predictions on the final auction,
Speaker 1: and we will also find out who Eliza and Liberty
Speaker 1: are planning a lifelong frenchhi with. Plus, we will get
Speaker 1: plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of The Block
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, which has its final few episodes coming
Speaker 1: to an end. Oh my god, that auction is stressing
Speaker 1: me out. If you've fallen just a little bit behind,
Speaker 1: you can catch up on nine now, and I believe
Speaker 1: you should do so because it has been so juicy. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's bring Eliza and Liberty into the podcast, and guys,
Speaker 1: I really hope you enjoy this fascinating look at the
Speaker 1: Block for twenty twenty three, as you will get a
Speaker 1: backstage pass like we've never had before. I am so
Speaker 1: excited to talk to the two of you.
Speaker 2: Are we recording now?
Speaker 1: Well I should have said hello, but look anyway, how
Speaker 1: are you both? For you both?
Speaker 3: Well, yes, we're really good. We're good.
Speaker 2: We can't believe things are about to finish.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, is that really stressful, because I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're mid season of a show like this, you think,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my whole life's been consumed and this
Speaker 1: is never going to end.
Speaker 3: You know what, we're finding we're going on the same
Speaker 3: ride as we did in the show. Because with about
Speaker 3: three weeks to go to the end of filming, we
Speaker 3: were like, oh my god, how are you going to
Speaker 3: cope with this, and we were so upset and we're like,
Speaker 3: what's life going to be? And then like the week
Speaker 3: that it was ending, we're like, we cannot do a
Speaker 3: moment longer. Like if we if they told us we
Speaker 3: had to do another week, we would probably be like,
Speaker 3: we can't do it, atcha. So we're kind of feeling
Speaker 3: a little bit like that now. And it's a combination
Speaker 3: of like working full time and doing you know, all
Speaker 3: of the block staff. You know, you're all consumed by
Speaker 3: you know, things that are coming up auction order and
Speaker 3: auction and the drama that's still going on behind the
Speaker 3: scenes and just all of that stuff. So I think
Speaker 3: we're kind of ready for it to be done, but
Speaker 3: excited about what's ahead for us too.
Speaker 1: Well. You know, this series is so popular, and it's
Speaker 1: because it is the only reality show where the outcome
Speaker 1: really and truly by the producers and everyone. No one
Speaker 1: knows how it's going to end. People could end up
Speaker 1: with no money, people could end up with eight hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars. It's a very stressful situation for you,
Speaker 1: for you all to be in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the only good thing for us is we
Speaker 3: came into this with no expectations. Our only hope was
Speaker 3: that it would give our life a bit of a
Speaker 3: jolt because we both lived together.
Speaker 2: We're sisters, but.
Speaker 3: We're not really friends, Like we respect each other, but
Speaker 3: we're both yeah single, we're yeh, set in our ways,
Speaker 3: not you know, taking any risks or challenging ourselves, and
Speaker 3: so we just did this for a live shakeup and
Speaker 3: that's what we've got.
Speaker 2: So obviously money would be a bonus.
Speaker 3: We've come away with great friendships, but we feel like
Speaker 3: we've got everything out of the show that we needed too.
Speaker 1: Does that mean you guys have been on the apps?
Speaker 1: Have you been dating? Has this show up to the
Speaker 1: dating level? Like what's going on? Oh?
Speaker 3: Quite the opposite, which is like so frustrating. Literally every
Speaker 3: day we get asked like did you find boyfriends? And
Speaker 3: we're like no, A few reasons on the show, we
Speaker 3: just the moment we stepped on the block, we were like,
Speaker 3: we have no time. All the trades and stuff told
Speaker 3: us we would ask everyone as they came in what
Speaker 3: their marital status was, and everyone told us they were
Speaker 3: either married or coupled up all whatever, And we don't
Speaker 3: know whether that was true. Whether that was a lie,
Speaker 3: and then yeah, we've been so busy since. But we
Speaker 3: also don't have control of our socials at the moment really,
Speaker 3: so yeah, no one's we're not getting any DMS or
Speaker 3: an thing.
Speaker 2: I ain't nobody dropping in the family that's coming.
Speaker 1: You know. I'll tell you a really funny story. And
Speaker 1: I'm not going to use this person's name because she'll
Speaker 1: kill me, but someone who is in the media that
Speaker 1: I know at my fortieth birthday said to me after
Speaker 1: quite a few drinks, a fan is writing to me
Speaker 1: on Instagram, and you know, I've always been with my
Speaker 1: partner since doing any kind of media. She was like,
Speaker 1: but if you were single, would you go on a
Speaker 1: date with a fan? And I was like oh, and
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, just do it anyway, she married him.
Speaker 3: No, that is brilliant. Well that's amazing. So there's hope
Speaker 3: for us yet marry a fan? Oh mycos mate. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: it depends how set a fan fanny they are. Hey,
Speaker 3: but we don't got no fans because we were gutta rats.
Speaker 1: You know, Eliza Shor, it was really funny the first
Speaker 1: time I saw you on the at the set of
Speaker 1: the Block. I don't know if you remember this. I
Speaker 1: felt like it was going to be a storyline on
Speaker 1: the show. I walked up to you and I said,
Speaker 1: I've got one of the mirrors. I walked up to
Speaker 1: you and said, could do you have one of these?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: So I was like, I've collected all of these from
Speaker 1: the other houses and they're quite amazing. And then you
Speaker 1: were like what is that? Took it off me and
Speaker 1: ran away because you were like, we were told we
Speaker 1: were not allowed to make those brochures.
Speaker 3: The main the domain challenge mid season, and there were
Speaker 3: all these rules about what we could and couldn't do,
Speaker 3: and every other house made a booklet of their house,
Speaker 3: and apparently we were all told we couldn't print paraphernalia
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: But our whole team's a bit stickler for the rules.
Speaker 3: So I saw that pile that you had at four
Speaker 3: other houses, and I was like, excuse me.
Speaker 2: For a minute, and I ran off and I was like, what.
Speaker 3: House. No, I didn't. I wasn't really like that, but
Speaker 3: but yeah, you had all the other houses, but we
Speaker 3: just didn't do it.
Speaker 2: But that's okay, Joe.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why with the block for viewers, they
Speaker 1: watch and they sort of think about what's fair and
Speaker 1: what's not fair, and they get annoyed about one person
Speaker 1: calling out something else. But it's because Julian's really good.
Speaker 1: He's the executive producer for people at home that are
Speaker 1: playing along, but he's really good at allowing there to
Speaker 1: be things left open to interpretation, which means that it's contestants.
Speaker 1: You have to constantly think is it okay to call
Speaker 1: people out about what one person was told over another?
Speaker 1: Am I going on the right path here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I think as well for us, because we didn't
Speaker 3: know anything, we just asked a hell of a lot
Speaker 3: of questions and that's how we found out a lot
Speaker 3: of our information, and like we're able to tap in
Speaker 3: a lot of into a lot of resources. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I just think it was valuable in that sense for
Speaker 3: us being so clueless, because we were able to gain
Speaker 3: so much information and know who to go to if
Speaker 3: we needed something. But you know, Asher whatever, being a builder,
Speaker 3: he sort of was able to do his own thing
Speaker 3: and know a lot of things and didn't need to
Speaker 3: ask a lot of things, which I think in some
Speaker 3: instances could have been to his detriment because he could
Speaker 3: have maybe.
Speaker 2: Been accessing more resources.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: All I know is if we didn't know something, we
Speaker 2: would just ask.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the reason why I enjoyed you two
Speaker 1: being cassed when you were, because it was that you
Speaker 1: had no real experience. And I think that represents a
Speaker 1: large part of the audience that want to watch the block.
Speaker 1: You know, there'd be so many people that would want
Speaker 1: to go on the show that don't have that building experience.
Speaker 1: So I think people could relate to you quite highly
Speaker 1: for that reason, do you think, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: And the feedback that we're getting from people that we're
Speaker 3: chatting to, you know, in the public and on socials
Speaker 3: and things, is that we are so relatable because we
Speaker 3: literally had zero experience. But we came in and we
Speaker 3: just worked so hard and that was what our kind
Speaker 3: of method was coming in and our strategy, if you will,
Speaker 3: was just working so hard and never giving up. And
Speaker 3: I think that, you know will we won three rooms.
Speaker 3: So I think that's, you know, shown that you can
Speaker 3: be successful without having that experience. And yet I think
Speaker 3: there's various parts of it. It's both detrimental and advantageous because,
Speaker 3: like Eliza said, we asked so many questions. We were
Speaker 3: just sponges. We took on board feedback and we didn't
Speaker 3: have any sort of expectations or yeah, anything coming into it,
Speaker 3: particularly from it, and sponsors and things said that as well,
Speaker 3: that they loved that we just came in with an
Speaker 3: open mind and we just couldn't make decisions based on
Speaker 3: their guidance and feedback and things. But obviously having no
Speaker 3: experience meant we couldn't really do anything, you know, any
Speaker 3: of the labor and stuff, because you know, like Ash could,
Speaker 3: let's say, tools down at five pm. Ash could then
Speaker 3: you know, do stuff himself as a builder, whereas our
Speaker 3: builders believe for the day and we'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: we don't know what we're doing, so we couldn't really
Speaker 3: do anything wenoculate and paint through them like those things.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but like Ash could actually, yeah, I know
Speaker 3: it was something buildery to do.
Speaker 1: Just picturing you trying to pick up a chainsaw or
Speaker 1: given something really dangerous.
Speaker 3: Clueless not allowed. So I think, and I think as
Speaker 3: well the sister Banter and that relationship is very relatable
Speaker 3: as well, And we truly were just who we are
Speaker 3: and the best bit of feedback that we can get
Speaker 3: from people, which we've got a lot of is Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, you guys are the same on screen as
Speaker 3: you are off screen, and that's just who we were,
Speaker 3: which is really important to us. We didn't play characters
Speaker 3: or be anyone that we weren't. So yeah, that's that's
Speaker 3: the best bit of feedback that we could possibly get.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought it was going to be a bit
Speaker 1: of a backlash for you. I thought the block fans
Speaker 1: we're going to be like, no, they don't have any
Speaker 1: building experience. And I remember Jules even saying to me, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's going to be lots of people that
Speaker 1: are going to have a problem with them not having
Speaker 1: building experience. But he was like, oh, I think audiences
Speaker 1: will appreciate them, because he mentioned that you both were
Speaker 1: so grateful for the experience, and he said that gratitude
Speaker 1: comes through the camera, you know quite a lot.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we've rented our whole lives. We ain't
Speaker 3: got no money for renovations ourselves. So it was a
Speaker 3: two part thing in like a live shakeup for us,
Speaker 3: but then also being able to have a crack at
Speaker 3: something that we never would in our ordinary lives with
Speaker 3: our access to this kind of money. It really was
Speaker 3: a once in a lifetime potentially opportunity for us because
Speaker 3: we don't have the money to do something like this
Speaker 3: in real life. So yeah, it just felt like we
Speaker 3: were kids in a candy shop a little bit and
Speaker 3: just got to experience something that was a bit of
Speaker 3: a dream in all senses. And I think we were
Speaker 3: grateful because we truly needed that life shake up. And
Speaker 3: there's quite a love lie moment for me at the
Speaker 3: end of the show where I, yeah, talk about what
Speaker 3: it kind of meant for me, and where you know,
Speaker 3: I was almost like, where does my life? Sounds so overdramatic,
Speaker 3: but I was because I was so set in my
Speaker 3: ways and routine driven and I was struggling to get
Speaker 3: out of that. For me, I was like, where's my
Speaker 3: life going to go if I don't do something like
Speaker 3: this drastic to like shake me up? And so I
Speaker 3: think we were so grateful that we had this opportunity
Speaker 3: because it truly did change our lives in the most
Speaker 3: positive way, and that I was, yeah, afraid, like where
Speaker 3: would I go? Would I just keep being this that
Speaker 3: I don't really love? Yeah, nine cats if I didn't
Speaker 3: do this. So that's why I think we were so
Speaker 3: grateful the whole time. And to be fair, like everyone
Speaker 3: working on this show, crew, production, other contestants, like everyone
Speaker 3: is there to help us make money in it and
Speaker 3: change our lives. So we again were so grateful for
Speaker 3: that because we just knew that everyone was working towards, yeah,
Speaker 3: the opportunity for us to make a lot of money,
Speaker 3: And so how can you not be grateful when that's
Speaker 3: what everyone's there for for.
Speaker 1: You pretty amazing to get that experience. How did the
Speaker 1: idea come up for the two of you, because like
Speaker 1: there was some rumors about the fact that, you know,
Speaker 1: you both worked as producers or Eliza, like I knew
Speaker 1: that you'd worked with Hamish Nandy as a PA. You know,
Speaker 1: there was some of these rumors going around that maybe
Speaker 1: it was suggested to you through a different means, or
Speaker 1: were you both just sitting in your apartment and thought,
Speaker 1: let's just workshop an audition video.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we actually applied last year for gismon Thank God,
Speaker 2: and we didn't get on. So we applied that it
Speaker 2: was just something that popped up on one of the socials,
Speaker 2: or we were following Lucky the casting director or something. Anyway,
Speaker 2: didn't get through, and there was a remind because we'd
Speaker 2: already been subscribed to that point, there was an email
Speaker 2: reminder saying, oh, it's that time of year again. And
Speaker 2: so we looked at each other and we were kind
Speaker 2: of in the same place we were the year before,
Speaker 2: and we thought, do we do it again?
Speaker 3: And it was actually even better timing because we were
Speaker 3: even more boring.
Speaker 2: And set in our white ways.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we applied that year and we took a
Speaker 3: different tax. The first year we did a boring like
Speaker 3: video where we're.
Speaker 2: Like, Hello, I'm Eliza, I'm Liberty, boring, boring.
Speaker 3: The second time, we pranked our parents and were saying
Speaker 3: that we got on the block, which is their worst
Speaker 3: nightmare for us to be on reality TV, And we
Speaker 3: filmed their real reactions to that, and it was brilliant
Speaker 3: because they were like, oh, you're going to embarrass yourselves
Speaker 3: and no idea what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Convidence great, thanks Buch.
Speaker 2: And we just kept on getting through. But in terms
Speaker 2: of the connection to our jobs, I actually.
Speaker 3: Didn't tell Hami Shnandy until the final round of casting
Speaker 3: because we just didn't expect to get through.
Speaker 2: And in the final round of.
Speaker 3: Casting, I was like, oh, my gosh, if this happens,
Speaker 3: like I better let them know. And then also the
Speaker 3: same with Channel nine. We didn't really give a whole
Speaker 3: lot of information. I just said I was a personal assistant,
Speaker 3: so neither parties knew, and I'm like, oh, I have
Speaker 3: to let people know because there could be a conflict.
Speaker 2: Of interest there, and it actually was.
Speaker 3: They almost weren't going to let us on because even
Speaker 3: though there was no help, it was actually the opposite.
Speaker 3: It was actually yeah detrimental where they were like, oh,
Speaker 3: it could look like something was happening here, and so
Speaker 3: we just have to have to think about how we
Speaker 3: manage this. And I am me and said, you know,
Speaker 3: if I leave my job, is that helpful? And it
Speaker 3: was the right time after ten years anyway, And so
Speaker 3: that's what we ended up doing. And we made a
Speaker 3: concerted effort to try and not have that connection there
Speaker 3: so people didn't jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that failed.
Speaker 1: I remember being at that press day though, and I
Speaker 1: walked in, I saw you, and I'd known who you
Speaker 1: were and your connection to the boys, and I picked
Speaker 1: it straight away. And then I joined a conversation with
Speaker 1: a couple of journalists and they were all talking about it,
Speaker 1: and I walked away from that conversation feeling like that
Speaker 1: people were referring to you like a nepo baby. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what I mean, Like it was
Speaker 1: such a I guess it's a human reaction to have
Speaker 1: if you're so synonymous with working with such an iconic
Speaker 1: part of Channel nine royalty, that there would be that
Speaker 1: kind of speculation totally.
Speaker 3: And I'm not employed. I wasn't employed by Channel nine.
Speaker 3: I'd never even been into a Channel nine building. I
Speaker 3: worked from home and I just you know, did emails
Speaker 3: and book flights and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So there was no connection and it almost worked in
Speaker 2: the opposite.
Speaker 1: How did you tell the boys and what was their reaction?
Speaker 1: I think that's what people would really want to know.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, at this point, HAMI should move to Sydney,
Speaker 3: and so I was mostly looking after Andy. It really
Speaker 3: was just an open conversation of like, oh, I should
Speaker 3: let you know that we're through here.
Speaker 2: You know timelines, it all happen.
Speaker 3: So quickly if it goes through, how do you feel
Speaker 3: about it? Just I just wanted to respect everyone, and
Speaker 3: the boys are so incredible. That's why I was with
Speaker 3: them for ten years. And if they weren't comfortable, that
Speaker 3: was something I would consider as well. But they were
Speaker 3: so supportive of me chasing any dream I wanted to
Speaker 3: and making any decisions I needed to. And they've checked
Speaker 3: in even to this point and they're incredible. And there's
Speaker 3: there's speculation that, you know, they were upset with what
Speaker 3: they were seeing and you know.
Speaker 2: Speaking to executives that just did not happen.
Speaker 3: Well, that Andy's going to buy the house. Andy Andy
Speaker 3: came through the house one day as they're like, wow,
Speaker 3: you guys have done an incredible job. Thank you, Hamie bye.
Speaker 3: So it literally is just friendships now, supportive friendships. They're happy,
Speaker 3: they love nine, they're you know, it's all pure.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be great if they did buy the house,
Speaker 1: like forget the rumors, Like, you know, come on, cough up, boys.
Speaker 2: Do you know Andy's got a new house that he's working.
Speaker 1: On coming back from Sydney. I can tell you that
Speaker 1: much right now.
Speaker 3: Jame's not coming back from Sydney. So unfortunately that was
Speaker 3: not a route I could explore.
Speaker 1: I just also thought the thing with watching it back
Speaker 1: on the cameras is how much time you must have
Speaker 1: spent with them because I've known both of those boys
Speaker 1: for probably nearly fifteen twenty years and not like we're
Speaker 1: not very close, but we know each other. And I Eliza,
Speaker 1: I could see your humor, the similarities in the humor,
Speaker 1: like I feel like it must have rubbed off, Like
Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing. It's but you guys are
Speaker 1: coming across as like a female. Hey, mission Andy, after.
Speaker 3: Ten years, the wits is gonna sort of rub off. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think as well. I was actually hired. I was
Speaker 3: a radio producer before I fell into that role as
Speaker 3: air assistant, and it was more of a character fit
Speaker 3: than and I experience fit because I hadn't been a
Speaker 3: personal assistant. I'd been a producer and it was just
Speaker 3: handy for me to know the landscape.
Speaker 2: That was more valuable to them.
Speaker 3: And I think their whole team they're surrounded with character
Speaker 3: fits and that works for them and so they just
Speaker 3: enabled me to bring that out, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. It wasn't like I had to be super professional.
Speaker 3: It was more like how we all got along. I
Speaker 3: think I was able to learn from them and thrive.
Speaker 1: But away from that and back into the fact that
Speaker 1: you didn't have as much experience maybe building with everyone else.
Speaker 1: And I felt for you early days when you did
Speaker 1: the second week room and I watched it like a
Speaker 1: viewer and thought that room was great. I didn't think
Speaker 1: there was anything wrong with it, so I was like,
Speaker 1: this is amazing. And then they savaged you. But then
Speaker 1: I was listening this morning, I got up really early
Speaker 1: and I was listening to the podcast with you with Shelley,
Speaker 1: and Shelley was like, Oh, that room was just really
Speaker 1: basic and you did come a long way? Is that true?
Speaker 1: Did you really listen to the judges and come a
Speaker 1: long way or did you just keep trying to do
Speaker 1: your best bit of both.
Speaker 3: We look back at that room now and at the
Speaker 3: time we were so proud of so embarrassing. Is that weak?
Speaker 3: Liza was like, You've done so well, you could have
Speaker 3: a career in styling, like blah blah blah. We could
Speaker 3: not have been proud of. We were so happy. And
Speaker 3: then to get that feedback from Mardy Fox to say
Speaker 3: we were prefer to seeing empty room and nothing. That
Speaker 3: hit me like an absolute ton of bricks, like not
Speaker 3: my com I mean, we didn't have confidence anyway. I
Speaker 3: think people could see that we were very self deprecating,
Speaker 3: and we were always kind of down on ourselves because
Speaker 3: we just didn't have the confidence. And so to hear
Speaker 3: that when we kind of were sort of confident going
Speaker 3: into the week, that yeah, just absolutely knocked out confidence tenfold,
Speaker 3: particularly mine because I was the one doing the styling shopping.
Speaker 3: But it's funny looking back on it now because we
Speaker 3: look back at that episode and the pictures of the
Speaker 3: room and stuff, and we're like, oh, how heinous is
Speaker 3: like the wallpaper and it was so cluttered and the
Speaker 3: colors and everything.
Speaker 2: So TV over a sink.
Speaker 1: I know, I knew that was bad. And I remember
Speaker 1: in the you know when there's the other episodes before
Speaker 1: the reveals where you get to see all the building. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not that we've seen all of building this year, see
Speaker 1: a lot of drama, but anyway, we saw that bit
Speaker 1: and I could see one of you saying, yeah, the
Speaker 1: TV needs to go up here, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what like a spider in the corner of the room, Like, I.
Speaker 3: Know, so bizarre, And it's yeah, like so looking back
Speaker 3: on that now, you're like, oh, it was god awful.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we just we truly took on board so
Speaker 3: much feedback every single week. Even though we were, you know,
Speaker 3: agitated after the feedback listening to it and things, we
Speaker 3: took it on board and we just tried to grow
Speaker 3: every week. And so it was a combination of that
Speaker 3: we just wanted to improve, Like, well, you came into
Speaker 3: this being like, we just don't want to come last
Speaker 3: every week, and so we were so happy if we
Speaker 3: just didn't come last every single week, and we took
Speaker 3: on board all the feedback. We just wanted to grow
Speaker 3: and improve, and we also just did our best because
Speaker 3: it just doesn't come naturally to us, Like I'm not
Speaker 3: a super creative person, Like you're kind of creative, but
Speaker 3: you're more you know, the project manager, you know, telling
Speaker 3: everyone kind of what to do. So both of us
Speaker 3: just didn't really have that creative nature to shop and
Speaker 3: style and things. So we truly just did our best
Speaker 3: and worked really hard, didn't give up, and sought as
Speaker 3: much advice feedback as we possibly could from those around us.
Speaker 1: Well, you ended up becoming like the bathroom Queens and
Speaker 1: you won those two bathroom challenges, which I think is
Speaker 1: hilarious and I'm so going to get done for being
Speaker 1: sexist here. But if anyone knows anything about bathrooms. It's
Speaker 1: my female friends, two girls together, two sisters. They know bathrooms.
Speaker 1: That's all I could say, Well.
Speaker 3: Exactly because I feel like, again, probably sexist, but we're
Speaker 3: in there the most right Like me anyway, I'm in
Speaker 3: there for hours.
Speaker 2: But you were not looking at me right now.
Speaker 3: But we just thought about everything, like even though we
Speaker 3: got done for like heights and mirrors and things, but
Speaker 3: you're really thinking what would I want? And you know,
Speaker 3: even chucking the foot niches in the master on suite,
Speaker 3: which we fought for hard, and every male trady was like,
Speaker 3: what on earth are these abominations? So but as well,
Speaker 3: I think that was when we were really coming into
Speaker 3: our own and gaining confidence.
Speaker 2: So and we love those spaces, so.
Speaker 1: I know I've been in them. They're amazing. I did
Speaker 1: have a problem with the Parsley wall. That's what I
Speaker 1: called the Parsley Wall. But what I thought was hilarious
Speaker 1: was when you won that challenge and you got to
Speaker 1: go to the Langham with Scottie Camp, were those Parsley
Speaker 1: walls actually there? Because it kind of felt like you know,
Speaker 1: from a comedy movie, like all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: was like, hey, girls, look over there and there was
Speaker 1: like they look like they'd just been freshly hung. It
Speaker 1: was there, and it was there.
Speaker 3: We saw Shelley the other day and she had been
Speaker 3: in Italy for the past six weeks and she said,
Speaker 3: my goodness, I have seen that many mossholes in the restaurants,
Speaker 3: in the hotels, in everywhere around Italy. And she was like, oh,
Speaker 3: my kid said to me, I've got to take photos
Speaker 3: and send it to you guys. And she's like, I
Speaker 3: couldn't justify because she hated it. My trend said, as
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, because they're everywhere around the world, I.
Speaker 1: Could have believed that. Shelley kept staying to how gross
Speaker 1: it was as well, like on your podcast. On the
Speaker 1: Official Block podcast, Shelley brought it up again and was like,
Speaker 1: I think you said, if you can afford to buy
Speaker 1: a three million dollar house, you can afford to pull
Speaker 1: the passi wall out or the moss wall. And she
Speaker 1: still was like, oh oh, Like she.
Speaker 3: Can't even talk about it, like someone had.
Speaker 1: Spat on the floor in front of her.
Speaker 3: You know what, We're fine with that because it's a
Speaker 3: talking point. Like I knew that not everyone was going
Speaker 3: to love it. Most people probably wouldn't. But to be honest,
Speaker 3: now everyone's like the house with the moss wam. We're
Speaker 3: like great, so it's a talking point and everyone wants
Speaker 3: to come and see it, so like great for us.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe there's any any of it left
Speaker 1: because everyone on the Domain Challenge that went into that
Speaker 1: room wanted to know if it was real. Yes, everyone
Speaker 1: was picking a piece off. I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: that was going to look like it's got alopecia at
Speaker 1: some point.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, it's still standing strong. It's just next to
Speaker 2: us now it's still.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, it's still there. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad that
Speaker 1: you've stuck with it. You both are very funny. And
Speaker 1: I was sort of talking about that before and I
Speaker 1: could not stop laughing at My favorite moment of the
Speaker 1: two of you was painting that fence. They do add
Speaker 1: in like sound effects and things like that, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was just really funny. Was it hard
Speaker 1: to always have that sense of humor considering things were
Speaker 1: so stressful?
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you don't laugh, you cry for us. If
Speaker 3: we didn't keep it lighthearted, we would have got in
Speaker 3: our heads so much and overthought everything and the plot,
Speaker 3: because that's what you saw with Backyard Week, where we
Speaker 3: took things so hard and overthought everything. We were losing
Speaker 3: our minds at the point at that point, and that
Speaker 3: just wasn't pretty. So we really tried to just tackle
Speaker 3: everything with positivity and in our natures. So for example,
Speaker 3: I would just if I wanted to take a break,
Speaker 3: I would just do it. And it would always annoy
Speaker 3: Liberty so much, but I was like, I just have
Speaker 3: to fully do what I would normally do in real life.
Speaker 3: What you didn't see is quite how hard we worked,
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of emphasis on me just like
Speaker 3: given up for like procrastinating, which is totally true. But
Speaker 3: we did way more all nighters than everyone else, and
Speaker 3: you know what, that was probably mostly because we were
Speaker 3: slow and the least experienced. And then from there, you know,
Speaker 3: it plays into the asking questions, Like there were weeks
Speaker 3: when we had three all nighters a week, and so
Speaker 3: there are a couple of times where we had to say, hey,
Speaker 3: we've got to pick something up, but we can't drive
Speaker 3: because we'll crash, and production would drive us. And that's
Speaker 3: where you but other contestants just wouldn't ask or just
Speaker 3: wouldn't have the level of all nighters that we did.
Speaker 3: And so there was this look that there was misconception
Speaker 3: that we were getting something and someone else didn't. But
Speaker 3: if everyone would get the same if they were not
Speaker 3: sleeping three nights a week. But yeah, in terms of
Speaker 3: that stuff, like I feel like, I know, Lib, you've
Speaker 3: got frustrated with me. Yes, for sure, you manned up
Speaker 3: quicker and harder, but.
Speaker 2: I still work really hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah you did. I mean I certainly worked harder, but yeah,
Speaker 3: like I think at the beginning, people were on socials
Speaker 3: and stuff were like, all these girls need to take
Speaker 3: it a bit more seriously, like give the opportunity to
Speaker 3: someone who you know really wants to do this and
Speaker 3: to renovate and stuff. And for us, we took it
Speaker 3: so seriously. We worked so hard. That was our like
Speaker 3: I said, our strategy coming into this is just working
Speaker 3: our butts off. And we were told constantly that we
Speaker 3: were the hardest workers on the block by like Keith
Speaker 3: and things like that, so people could see that we
Speaker 3: were working hard. But you just have to bring lightness
Speaker 3: to it because it is so hard, Dane, And like, truly,
Speaker 3: if you didn't laugh, you would go so insane and
Speaker 3: like Alis said, we would get in our heads so much,
Speaker 3: so we just had to bring a bit of that
Speaker 3: comedic relief. And to be honest, watching it back, I'm like,
Speaker 3: thank god we did, because there was so much drama
Speaker 3: and bitchiness and all that sort of stuff that I
Speaker 3: think people have told us that, like, thank god you
Speaker 3: guys are on it to bring a bit of that
Speaker 3: like comedy and positivity and lightness and stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that Fence episode there's something really dramatic. I
Speaker 1: can't remember what it is. I feel like there's something
Speaker 1: really dramatically.
Speaker 2: Comes yeah yeah about Leader.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I felt like, you know, that Fence thing
Speaker 1: was like that level of tension that builds as an
Speaker 1: audience and then when something silly happens, you get a release.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's kind of what we were getting,
Speaker 1: you know. But as the experience with being like you know,
Speaker 1: producing and producing a podcast or producing radio, both of
Speaker 1: you have got that. Did you try and self edit
Speaker 1: at all? Like did you know what to deliver with
Speaker 1: your humor at times? Like or maybe was was it
Speaker 1: hard to get that sort of produce a voice out
Speaker 1: of your head?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: The most crazy funny fun times were when there were
Speaker 3: no cameras and we were like, oh, this is so
Speaker 3: much gold they're missing, because you know, at four am
Speaker 3: we were loopy and just trying to keep each other alive,
Speaker 3: and Jan and Steph would come over and we'd like,
Speaker 3: you know, od on raspberry lollies and you know, it
Speaker 3: was just.
Speaker 2: They were the coolest moments.
Speaker 3: But for us, we actually thought it might be an
Speaker 3: advantage sort of knowing how that world works.
Speaker 2: But reality TV deearferent Cattle of Fish.
Speaker 3: And I worked for a production company and we make
Speaker 3: create TV commercials. It could not be more different to
Speaker 3: reality TV. So like there was no apart from I
Speaker 3: think again where the grateful part comes into it. We've
Speaker 3: worked behind the scenes, getting coffees, you know, doing running around,
Speaker 3: doing dry cleaning, all that sort of stuff. So I
Speaker 3: think that's gave us a good indication of how hard
Speaker 3: people were working for us, whereas perhaps some other contestants
Speaker 3: didn't have, you know, that level of awareness and you
Speaker 3: know gratefulness if is that a word gratefulness to yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess appreciate what people around you were doing and
Speaker 3: the logistics involved with everything. That is something we did
Speaker 3: understand like a challenge or we would be afterwards to
Speaker 3: the team, You guys, that was a mammoth effort, like
Speaker 3: incredible everything. We were just like to the group, amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you guys, we know how hard that would have been.
Speaker 3: So we were just so thankful and that every what
Speaker 3: everyone did for us, the crew, But we were just ourselves.
Speaker 3: We did not put anything on like that is well
Speaker 3: and again I said this before, but the fact that
Speaker 3: people come up to us and say you're exactly like
Speaker 3: you are in real life, and our friends and family
Speaker 3: know that we were just completely ourselves. That is our
Speaker 3: sense of humor, that is our bound that is our relation.
Speaker 3: But that's getting us in trouble now, Ben, because we're
Speaker 3: not prepared to switch off. For us, this wasn't a
Speaker 3: TV show like I mean, of course it was, but
Speaker 3: I left my job of ten years.
Speaker 2: You jeopardize your job. But we were real then and
Speaker 2: we're real now.
Speaker 3: There was no off button for us when it stopped filming,
Speaker 3: and so we're just for us. It's just a journey
Speaker 3: of life as a whole, and we're just reacting to
Speaker 3: everything like we would from start to finish.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's probably overthinking everything.
Speaker 3: But we did that during the show, so we're going
Speaker 3: to do that now and react as we would in
Speaker 3: real life.
Speaker 1: Is it hard then to hear that You've got two
Speaker 1: other houses that have said that you both were very
Speaker 1: different off camera.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, the hardest thing for us were questioning our
Speaker 3: integrity and our character is the most insulting thing for us,
Speaker 3: because ye we could not have been more ourselves, and
Speaker 3: we were kind and we were respectful, and that was
Speaker 3: our you know, what we wanted to be going into it,
Speaker 3: because that is who we are in real life. We
Speaker 3: had no idea what we were doing, so we didn't
Speaker 3: have time to be anyone else. We never had producers
Speaker 3: or anything saying to us that we needed to be
Speaker 3: anything different or needed to play a character or you know,
Speaker 3: exaggerate anything more. So we were completely ourselves. We you know,
Speaker 3: there's all these allegations of us like being cheats. Again,
Speaker 3: we were like goodie two shoes. We were the opposite
Speaker 3: where we would like go over and above that people
Speaker 3: would be like, oh god, like you don't need to
Speaker 3: be that like aim about things. So for that to
Speaker 3: be questioned for us is the biggest insult because we
Speaker 3: could not be less of those people. And that's what
Speaker 3: we're like in real and we didn't want it to
Speaker 3: become tip for tat, but when there's words like they
Speaker 3: were the biggest cheaters on the block, you're like, I'm
Speaker 3: just not going to let that lie because integrity to
Speaker 3: us is the most important thing ever. And what what
Speaker 3: I've struggle with is, you know, and I've heard Brett say, like,
Speaker 3: this is a job now and we all need to
Speaker 3: be respectful. You didn't earn my respect then, so unfortunately.
Speaker 2: You're not going to get it now.
Speaker 3: Like you can't come on a show and drop grenades
Speaker 3: and then the camera stop and we're supposed to ignore
Speaker 3: those grenades that have gone up off and the debris
Speaker 3: that you've left behind and the people that you've hurt.
Speaker 3: So in terms off, we're going to talk about real.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting because we actually did see lovely glimpses
Speaker 3: of Christie and Brett and in those moments, you're having
Speaker 3: a great time and we can acknowledge we actually could
Speaker 3: really laugh at what Brett did around the front yard
Speaker 3: backyard think trying to win the car, and we're like,
Speaker 3: that's golden. They're the moments that like power to you
Speaker 3: run a muck and do those things. And when we
Speaker 3: robbed Stephan Giann's house, it was all light hearted fun,
Speaker 3: but it just went too far. It got too nasty,
Speaker 3: and the mind games and laughing at someone for thinking
Speaker 3: that they're your friend when you've tried to befriend them,
Speaker 3: it's just it just we just found that quite sick.
Speaker 3: And afterwards we were saying, you know, but we're confused
Speaker 3: because you know, you would show these glimpses of case.
Speaker 3: We'd get messages from Christy saying, hey, guys, we don't
Speaker 3: like seeing you down, and that was off camera, and
Speaker 3: so afterwards I said to them, I was like, we
Speaker 3: saw those glimpses. Why do you allow people to see
Speaker 3: those glimpses of you that we were so connecting and vulnerable?
Speaker 3: And they're like no, because that is not what we
Speaker 3: wanted to bring to the show. We wanted to be
Speaker 3: the villains. And I'm like, hang on a second, but
Speaker 3: you're saying you're the realest people on the block, but
Speaker 3: that's part of you, So how are you real if
Speaker 3: you left that whole part of you out? So it's
Speaker 3: confusing and as well, you know, we came on, we
Speaker 3: played it like Survival. We'd never watched the block, and
Speaker 3: then Brett's saying in an episode, oh, we the last
Speaker 3: two seasons we found really boring, so we wanted to
Speaker 3: come on to jazz it up.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, hang on, you've never watched it? What
Speaker 2: is it? I find them so confusing. I just don't
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: I think it's confusing for the viewers as well, because
Speaker 1: whilst there is this presence of House three and House
Speaker 1: two being kind of the villains of the series in
Speaker 1: lots of ways, we then get glimpses of you all
Speaker 1: hanging out and being very supportive of each other. Is
Speaker 1: there a possibility that there's a bit of a sibling
Speaker 1: relationship that develops amongst a cast like this, where you, yourselves,
Speaker 1: being sisters, would know that sometimes you can hate that person,
Speaker 1: but if anyone else said anything bad about them, you
Speaker 1: defend them, you know. Is there a level of intensity
Speaker 1: that has been created that may have made for a
Speaker 1: bit of sibling rivalry behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: I I mean, I would love to say yes and
Speaker 3: have that as the reason behind it, But to be honest,
Speaker 3: what we're struggling with now is watching it back and
Speaker 3: I know it's this whole, like they're like, don't live
Speaker 3: in the edit, but unfortunately we're still seeing that off
Speaker 3: camera as it was on camera. So that's where we're struggling.
Speaker 3: Like if straight after they'd been like, we played these
Speaker 3: characters and that's not who we are, and you know,
Speaker 3: we're these different people and like blah bah blah, like
Speaker 3: no worries, and you'd go, okay, that's okay, But unfortunately
Speaker 3: it hasn't been like that for us in our experience,
Speaker 3: from our opinions, and I think again, what a lot
Speaker 3: of people didn't see was the behind the scenes stuff
Speaker 3: and the aftermath of how they treated people. So we're
Speaker 3: the one sitting there consoling people who are potentially mistreated,
Speaker 3: mistreated and seeing how that is affecting them. And that's
Speaker 3: real life people being mistreated and yeah, the impact that's
Speaker 3: having on them and us picking up the pieces and
Speaker 3: helping people or us ourselves feeling like that. So that
Speaker 3: is real life to us. That's not people's feelings and
Speaker 3: mental health and stuff is real life for us. Eliza's
Speaker 3: a mental health advocate. You know, we've both had mental
Speaker 3: health you know, ups and downs in the past, so
Speaker 3: it's really important to us and it's not a joke.
Speaker 3: So I sort of go, if you're regardless of if
Speaker 3: you're that person in real life or you're coming on
Speaker 3: a TV show to play that character and are willing
Speaker 3: to hurt people through that process, to me, that's just
Speaker 3: as bad as each other. So it doesn't matter if
Speaker 3: you're playing a character or not. If you're willing to
Speaker 3: do that to hurt people and affect people's mental health, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that to me is kind of just as bad. And
Speaker 3: because we're seeing this same thing now as it was
Speaker 3: on camera, like, that's just where it doesn't sit well
Speaker 3: with us.
Speaker 1: But then if you look at Lea and Christy, there's
Speaker 1: lots of times where you guys both have really strong
Speaker 1: friendships with them, it's fair to say that they've probably
Speaker 1: been the most savaged online. Has your impression and has
Speaker 1: your whole experience with working with those two women been
Speaker 1: tainted by reading about what's happened online? I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: you've watched what's happened on the show and you had
Speaker 1: no idea what kind of behavior was going on, So
Speaker 1: that kind of explains that there wasn't as much animosity
Speaker 1: while filming as to what the reaction is now where
Speaker 1: there is that negativity about the two of them, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know what Leah and Ash we had
Speaker 3: such a great relationship coming on and I Ash I
Speaker 3: connected with really strongly, like his sense of humor is
Speaker 3: so funny. And we don't have a problem with them,
Speaker 3: to be honest, like we feel like they got sucked
Speaker 3: into a bit of a mean girl vortex and then
Speaker 3: when they realize, hey, we've got kids or not that
Speaker 3: was I do still stand by the fact that they
Speaker 3: believed that, like morally and ethically it wasn't great how
Speaker 3: it was impacting people, but also hey, maybe they were
Speaker 3: worried about how they'd be seen amongst mums and you know,
Speaker 3: their business community. I don't know, but I always just
Speaker 3: felt real around Lea and Ashen, whilst Leah sometimes you know,
Speaker 3: could come across rude and maybe patronizing to some trades
Speaker 3: and things like that. I actually respect that she just
Speaker 3: said it how it She was direct, and I think
Speaker 3: as a whole, and maybe I'm naive, I think every
Speaker 3: other cast member, bar Christian Brett, we saw realness for sure.
Speaker 2: When the cameras turned.
Speaker 3: Off, maybe people were a little bit more vulnerable because
Speaker 3: that was you know, certain things they didn't want to
Speaker 3: share with the whole world, and maybe there's game playing
Speaker 3: here and there, but we just felt, we feel coming
Speaker 3: off bar Christian Brett, that all of our experiences with
Speaker 3: everyone were totally real.
Speaker 1: With jumping in there, I was going to say, regardless
Speaker 1: as to whether or not it's it was totally real.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What about what's happening now? I mean, yes, are the
Speaker 1: comments fair about these people, regardless as to what they
Speaker 1: did or whether they thought they were being on Survivor
Speaker 1: or whatever it is the world that we're living in now,
Speaker 1: is that these people being savaged online? Do you feel
Speaker 1: a sense of responsibility to make sure that these people
Speaker 1: are Okay? I don't know. I'm not there, and I
Speaker 1: don't know all of you, but I read the comments,
Speaker 1: and I'm reading the comments on this particular season, and
Speaker 1: it's outrageous, Like it's outrageous. I just want to know.
Speaker 3: I'm so passionate about it, and I think we've lost
Speaker 3: I just think we've lost patients for villains, and I
Speaker 3: think mental health in this day and age, when there's
Speaker 3: so much hideousness in the world, people are really trying
Speaker 3: to prioritize it and suicide rates are through the roof,
Speaker 3: and as they've mentioned, I do mental health talks in school,
Speaker 3: so I'm particularly sensitive about it. But do you know
Speaker 3: what death threats and awful comments are just never justified?
Speaker 3: And with Christian Brett, I just want to explain, like
Speaker 3: when we say that they upset people, I genuine don't
Speaker 3: believe that they want to upset people, but I think
Speaker 3: maybe just the type of people they are, they don't
Speaker 3: realize that their execution is unacceptable, and they also don't care.
Speaker 3: So when they're saying something and they're snapping when people
Speaker 3: usually wouldn't snap, or when they're snapping at people who
Speaker 3: are just there to help them, they just don't realize.
Speaker 3: They just live in a different world where they don't
Speaker 3: understand that people are there to help them, they're not
Speaker 3: out to get you. And I don't know whether that's
Speaker 3: what they've experienced earlier in their lives. I don't know,
Speaker 3: and I've really tried to understand it, and I'm not
Speaker 3: getting anywhere with it.
Speaker 2: But I've got to get you to see that like
Speaker 2: a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Connect with them, and as I said, we saw those glimpses,
Speaker 3: but what we've experienced off camera, regardless of what people
Speaker 3: are saying and regardless of the disappointment we feel watching
Speaker 3: back what they did, particularly to Steph like they just
Speaker 3: tried to make a fool of her. They took it
Speaker 3: too far, They took it further than the because we
Speaker 3: can appreciate the fun villain stuff they did, truly I
Speaker 3: can laugh at it. It went too far. And what
Speaker 3: we're experiencing off camera is awful, the mind games that
Speaker 3: are still going on, and they just the bitching and
Speaker 3: you know, trying to befriend certain people to then you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm talking about contestants trying to be befriend contestants
Speaker 3: and then passing on that information that they've confided in
Speaker 3: them to then play mind games with another and just
Speaker 3: it makes us feel sick. And so for us, we
Speaker 3: can only provide judgment on what we experience, what we're
Speaker 3: still seeing and hearing. So it's not that they deliberately
Speaker 3: want to be bad people, and they truly do connect
Speaker 3: with certain people, and people don't. Some people don't. I
Speaker 3: don't think you've seen that side of them, and that's fine,
Speaker 3: and people will have positive comments, but when you experience
Speaker 3: it and when you look at these people in your
Speaker 3: face when you know, they snapped at me the other
Speaker 3: day and I was like, I'm so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: I just wasn't raised like this.
Speaker 3: I just don't disrespect people like that and it's not okay.
Speaker 3: And I now stand up for myself and it rattles
Speaker 3: them for sure, because people don't stand up to them.
Speaker 1: What about these letters, Because I mean, they were on
Speaker 1: the podcast and this hit the press. People were talking
Speaker 1: about it that you had sent letters out to Crewe
Speaker 1: on the last day of filming to apologize for some
Speaker 1: of your behavior. I did hear because I ran into
Speaker 1: you at an event that you said that those letters
Speaker 1: were not apology letters, they were thank you letters? Was
Speaker 1: there a bit of truth in both of that? Was
Speaker 1: a possible chance that they misread that situation because in
Speaker 1: these letters you might have said to some of the crew,
Speaker 1: sorry that sometimes we could be you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: silly or tired. Is there a way of misreading that
Speaker 1: or is that just out and outlie.
Speaker 2: There's no way of misreading it. It was a thank
Speaker 2: you letter, for sure.
Speaker 3: We were embarrassed about our final backyard week. How we responded.
Speaker 3: We look like terrible sports. We didn't go to the
Speaker 3: dinner with Scottie. We didn't understand that it was an
Speaker 3: official dinner. They said, if you want to come to
Speaker 3: the last a drink and.
Speaker 2: Where We really wish we were there.
Speaker 3: So we were actually saying to people like where, And
Speaker 3: we even still say it now, like we're embarrassed about
Speaker 3: that behavior where we sort of look like brats and
Speaker 3: so overall we do. We're just giant mpats and the
Speaker 3: thought of looking like brats or like not crew not
Speaker 3: like enjoying filming those parts of us when they're used
Speaker 3: to us being lighthearted, and you know, at one point
Speaker 3: they were like, oh, guys, like it's awful seeing you
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 2: Like so there's that element for sure.
Speaker 3: So if there was ever any apologies, it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: we're embarrassed if there was ever brat behavior. But I
Speaker 3: think what is most insulting for us is that the
Speaker 3: commentary that came out about it was that we wrote
Speaker 3: apology letters to Crewe hand written.
Speaker 2: They weren't handwritten.
Speaker 3: And we'll tell you what the facts are on this.
Speaker 3: We were discussing like a couple of weeks out, We're like,
Speaker 3: this has been the most incredible life changing experience for us,
Speaker 3: what can we do for the crew and everything to
Speaker 3: say thank you? And Eliza was like, let's write letters.
Speaker 3: So literally at midnight one night, when you know, in
Speaker 3: the last week, when were absolutely cooked, Eliza wrote a letter,
Speaker 3: went to office works, got them printed out, we got envelopes,
Speaker 3: we packed them, and we handed them around to Crewe
Speaker 3: the next few days and the letter said, this has
Speaker 3: been the most incredible life changing experience for us and
Speaker 3: it's because of all of you. Thank you so much,
Speaker 3: blah blah. And the crew were like overawed by how
Speaker 3: you know, what a kind gesture that was and said
Speaker 3: this has never been done before. And so for the
Speaker 3: commentary to come out that these were apology leaders that
Speaker 3: we gave the crew and we're the real villains and
Speaker 3: we're apologizing for our BS behavior and that now those
Speaker 3: letters aligning the Bingo bins like that is so insulting
Speaker 3: for us because that was something that we did out
Speaker 3: of pure kindness to the crew, and we got nothing
Speaker 3: but positive feedback, and people were like, the crew were
Speaker 3: really yational about the fact that we've done that, because
Speaker 3: they were like, wow, we never in the history of
Speaker 3: nineteen seasons have people written us letters to say thank
Speaker 3: you for how we've contributed to their life changing experience.
Speaker 3: And that's where we saw it was. And that's where
Speaker 3: we struggle now with Christie and Brett. And you know,
Speaker 3: people are saying you just living in the edit and
Speaker 3: responding to that. We're responding to them coming out saying
Speaker 3: things like that, that's mean, that's so mean, and just
Speaker 3: because you don't understand how, in a huge inverted commas,
Speaker 3: how we played the game, which was be ourselves, be
Speaker 3: kind and respectful, just because you don't understand how that
Speaker 3: worked for us and you don't relate to that, like
Speaker 3: leave us, please, please, please leave us alone so we
Speaker 3: don't have to keep responding to your grand like you're.
Speaker 2: The biggest cheaters.
Speaker 3: That's where we're like, we don't have respect for you
Speaker 3: because you're lying the lies and we have to then
Speaker 3: respond and it's tiffit to and it's disgusting.
Speaker 2: We shouldn't have to.
Speaker 3: Have a dig at us for you know, being goody
Speaker 3: two shoes because that's what they think and that's fair,
Speaker 3: but don't make up lies, especially for something as special
Speaker 3: as that.
Speaker 2: It's so awful.
Speaker 1: But I just think, what about this though, because I'm
Speaker 1: obsessed with the Block, I really am. I listened to everything.
Speaker 1: If there's been a radio interview, I've downloaded it, I've
Speaker 1: listened to the podcast. I'm fucking wearing the T shirt.
Speaker 1: Why go on radio though, and even entertain saying anything
Speaker 1: bad about them? Why? I feel like there's tip for tat.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like you've now come to a place
Speaker 1: where when you are on these shows, you're not talking
Speaker 1: about the Block, You're talking about them, and that's not
Speaker 1: really your brand.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing when we're I.
Speaker 1: Mean, it's juicy and people are living for it, and
Speaker 1: maybe that's a great way for you to guys to
Speaker 1: talk about you know what everyone's talking about. I just
Speaker 1: worry whether or not that's your brand. No go tit
Speaker 1: for tat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like here's the thing. If we were just
Speaker 3: going out there and just like saying stuff about them
Speaker 3: with no you know that they're coming out and you know,
Speaker 3: essentially defamating our characters by saying we're cheats. Sorry to
Speaker 3: find our characters saying we're cheats, saying that you know
Speaker 3: with that letter. Think so we are so passionate about
Speaker 3: the people that we are and the characters that we
Speaker 3: are and who we were on the show and the
Speaker 3: fact that we were ourselves. So when things like that
Speaker 3: come out, we need to defend ourselves, like we're not
Speaker 3: just coming out for no reason and just like throwing
Speaker 3: bubs at them, that's what they're doing to us. So
Speaker 3: for allegations to come out like that, we need to
Speaker 3: defend ourselves and say the truth of it. And as
Speaker 3: much as like, I'm very much you get more riled
Speaker 3: up than I do, but I'm very much the public
Speaker 3: knows who they are. We're reading things on socials and
Speaker 3: we're like, everyone gets it. But when our characters are
Speaker 3: brought to you know, you yet brought into question, that
Speaker 3: is when we do not stand for that, and we're
Speaker 3: going to defend ourselves because that is not fair. But
Speaker 3: I'm not proud. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not proud
Speaker 3: of getting sucked into it all and being so over
Speaker 3: like so passionate about it because as everyone says, it's
Speaker 3: just a TV show, but I can't, I can't help
Speaker 3: it lives really seeing me struggle. We've had an incredible
Speaker 3: season and we're really proud of everything, but what's really
Speaker 3: rattled me is watching everything back a and then being
Speaker 3: around these people that rattle me, challenge me, make me
Speaker 3: feel uncomfortable, and you say brand, right, we don't care
Speaker 3: about a brand. We don't have a brand when literally
Speaker 3: our brand is being ourselves. And so I've always said
Speaker 3: when someone has said to me, when you've even said
Speaker 3: be careful, Eliza, like you're focusing on the gross negatives
Speaker 3: now when you're becoming as bad as them. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't care about fan followers, fame, or fortune, and
Speaker 3: I truly don't take it all away from me because
Speaker 3: if this is about if I have to toe a
Speaker 3: party line and be someone in say crap that that's
Speaker 3: not me, I'm not here for it.
Speaker 2: I have to stand up with what I see.
Speaker 3: Is I sound like I don't care and that I'm not. No,
Speaker 3: you are just me, But my attitude is a lot
Speaker 3: of the time I'd rather not give my energy to them.
Speaker 3: And I don't like seeing you get so consumed with it,
Speaker 3: because you know you struggle with mental health in the path.
Speaker 3: I know that you can. You're getting all consumed by
Speaker 3: things can affect your mental health, and that's what I
Speaker 3: don't want to see of you. And that's why I
Speaker 3: tried and say to you, just let it go focus
Speaker 3: on ourselves. And I know that that's difficult for you,
Speaker 3: but that's not me caring less or being less passionate
Speaker 3: about it. That's just us having dealing with things.
Speaker 1: And you do have to diferent feelings. But you know
Speaker 1: what CHRISTI said yesterday on the radio on fefefevn Nick
Speaker 1: I think it is, was like, oh, they're hanging off
Speaker 1: our storylines, you know, to talk about this sort of
Speaker 1: stuff on radio. And I thought to myself, that must
Speaker 1: really have hurt to hear that, because that isn't what
Speaker 1: you wanted to do. And the girls that I met
Speaker 1: when I got to be lucky enough to visit the
Speaker 1: set throughout a couple of visits throughout the season just
Speaker 1: didn't sound like you. You know, it just didn't.
Speaker 3: You know. It brings out the worst in us for sure,
Speaker 3: and even you know what we even get as annoyed
Speaker 3: as like you know, Brett was saying yesterday on radio
Speaker 3: that all the girls have said they'll need therapy if
Speaker 3: we make any money. That's not true. We said if
Speaker 3: they win, we'll need therapy. That's still not a nice
Speaker 3: thing to say, for sure, I'll own that, but I'm
Speaker 3: we're very much will meet. Particularly I'm black and white justice,
Speaker 3: you know, I want to see everything work out with
Speaker 3: the world, and I believe in karma and good things
Speaker 3: happening to good people and I never want anything bad
Speaker 3: to happen to anyone.
Speaker 2: But the world doesn't work like that. And this more
Speaker 2: than ever.
Speaker 3: I live a shelter life because I choose to mostly
Speaker 3: stay in my house. But this has been a life
Speaker 3: lesson for me and they have taught me something. And
Speaker 3: Brett has even said to me, like Eliza, you've just
Speaker 3: got to accept you don't understand us, and you've got
Speaker 3: to be okay with that. And I struggle so much
Speaker 3: with that. And I have to make sense of things,
Speaker 3: and I have to respond to things, and I have
Speaker 3: to explain the truth and get justice, and sometimes that's
Speaker 3: bleeding into like tit for tat and do you know
Speaker 3: where those comments come from? So that whole like we
Speaker 3: need therapy about, like again it's tongue in cheek, but
Speaker 3: also the mental health spaces we're very passionate about. So
Speaker 3: when we're chatting to parents and parents are saying this
Speaker 3: has been like our kids watch the show and it's
Speaker 3: been really difficult for us to try and explain the
Speaker 3: behavior that's going on. So we sit there and we think, God,
Speaker 3: how does someone explain to their kids this behavior and
Speaker 3: that it's okay? And so where we come from in
Speaker 3: the you know, we need therapy. If they win, it's
Speaker 3: like we just feel people watching this. If they then
Speaker 3: out in one and they've behaved the way that they have,
Speaker 3: it's sort of going, oh, so you can behave like
Speaker 3: a terror beverward and be rewarded for that.
Speaker 1: I just want to jump in there and say to
Speaker 1: the two of you, though, that's real world, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that is stuff that you
Speaker 1: need to teach your children, because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, we cannot teach the next generation that just
Speaker 1: by being nice means that everything's going to be fine
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm struggling with.
Speaker 1: In the real world. Not villains, although we characterize that
Speaker 1: when we talk about reality television. But when people who
Speaker 1: do bad things, we like to think that they'll be
Speaker 1: made accountable for, but in the real world they don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that I'm not going to spend any
Speaker 1: time of my life with anyone that's done the wrong
Speaker 1: thing by me getting upset because they win something, you know,
Speaker 1: or they're doing well in life. I just think to myself,
Speaker 1: you know, that's your thing, and you know, maybe you'll
Speaker 1: get Calma one day or maybe you won't. But that's
Speaker 1: real life, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's something I'm having to learn. It's a life. Like
Speaker 2: I say, my life sheltered.
Speaker 3: I've been through like a few awful things my life,
Speaker 3: but also I am sheltered in another aspect of my
Speaker 3: life in terms of like you know, supportive family and
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And but you're right, it doesn't work
Speaker 3: like that. But this has been good for me to experience.
Speaker 3: But in the real world, I get to if I
Speaker 3: don't like Christianbra, I don't see Christianbra again. So to
Speaker 3: be constantly put in the same room as them, it's
Speaker 3: like a tritter. And so it is really hard for me.
Speaker 3: And yes it is. I need to see because we
Speaker 3: were not perfect and I'm still not perfect. And I
Speaker 3: each each before each interview, like you know, everyone says
Speaker 3: to me, Eliza, try and focus on your positive experience,
Speaker 3: and then the minute something fires me up, I jump
Speaker 3: on it and it's I'm.
Speaker 1: Asking you the question. So like, yeah, yeah, you like
Speaker 1: just being able to talk about your truth. And I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. And I know that this you know, we've
Speaker 1: stuck on this point for a little bit, and I
Speaker 1: just think it's allowing a broader conversation. I remember my
Speaker 1: best friend said to me when we're in our twenties.
Speaker 1: She was like, you know, why did that person do
Speaker 1: that to me? I'd never do that to someone. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I said, this is one of the hardest lessons
Speaker 1: that you have had to learn. And I feel like
Speaker 1: we have to relearn it all the time. And we
Speaker 1: shouldn't change who we are and the way we are
Speaker 1: towards other people. That is just who we are. And
Speaker 1: if people do the wrong thing back to us, that
Speaker 1: is on them.
Speaker 2: Yes, we can't. We can't. We can only control what
Speaker 2: we do. We can't control what others do and how
Speaker 2: they react. Like we can only control how we react.
Speaker 2: We can't control what others do. And that's been a.
Speaker 3: Hard lesson for me A thousand percent. Where I'm also
Speaker 3: proud of us is in those same conversations when parents
Speaker 3: are saying how they're having to explain you know, that
Speaker 3: sort of behavior, the me and girl's behavior to their kids.
Speaker 3: In the next breath, they're then saying, but thank you
Speaker 3: girls so much for standing up to us and showing
Speaker 3: that you know, you can stand up to us, and
Speaker 3: that behavior doesn't get you that far or you know,
Speaker 3: people do stand up to that, and by because we
Speaker 3: came on just with the you know, working hard and
Speaker 3: not giving up can lead you to success, and that
Speaker 3: has because we've won three rooms, we have great relations
Speaker 3: amazing positive feedback. We've come out of it with great relationships.
Speaker 3: So what we want to, you know, tell those kids
Speaker 3: is that, yeah, you don't have to behave poorly and
Speaker 3: put on a villainous character or anything to get far.
Speaker 3: You can be yourselves like we have and you can
Speaker 3: get further and be successful and have amazing relationships and
Speaker 3: get great feedback and that behavior will be stood up too,
Speaker 3: and so it's amazing for us, Like that's the greatest
Speaker 3: feedback that we can possibly get is from parents coming
Speaker 3: up to us saying thank you so much. Number one,
Speaker 3: your parents must be so proud of you and the
Speaker 3: characters you are. But number two, thank you for allowing
Speaker 3: us to then be able to explain to our kids,
Speaker 3: you can stand up to these people or you know
Speaker 3: you can. Yeah, you've gone to show you that.
Speaker 1: I think it's to ignore it, you know, that's the Yeah,
Speaker 1: these are some of the lessons that I guess. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, you just got to ignore it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. If you don't like someone's behavior, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think you do need to call it out.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that sometimes I've had to learn this.
Speaker 1: Now I'm forty three, i'd fucking old, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, when now, when I see someone behaving a
Speaker 1: certain way, the old me inside is like, no, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to tell them that they're doing the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, I just don't know how far that's.
Speaker 3: Right, and really in an ideal world, yes, And like
Speaker 3: I think, if you if I ever did it again,
Speaker 3: if I know now what, if I knew then what
Speaker 3: I know now, I think I would try and stay
Speaker 3: out of it more. And I know, like Christy's even
Speaker 3: said the other day, you know, I love it when
Speaker 3: my name is in people's mouth and they love firing
Speaker 3: us up. We're giving them exactly what they want for me.
Speaker 3: When it goes to the cheating and stuff, I have
Speaker 3: to speak. But you're right and the world doesn't work
Speaker 3: out how it sometimes probably should. But I also think
Speaker 3: it was important for you to stand up on the
Speaker 3: show to that when it got your business. I stand
Speaker 3: by that completely. Oh kitchen week, when I called out
Speaker 3: what I was seeing, and you know, there was like, oh,
Speaker 3: Elivesa's a new character. I'm so not like I like
Speaker 3: to think that I'm quite nice and go with the
Speaker 3: flow in Switzerland, but if something upsets me and I
Speaker 3: need to stand up for something bigger or my days,
Speaker 3: am I going in?
Speaker 1: You know though, it's funny because there's some selection process
Speaker 1: that goes with you know, when you're making a reality show,
Speaker 1: you kind of turn people into certain character types. And
Speaker 1: you guys are the fan favorites, are very very popular.
Speaker 1: But there has been decisions made along the way. I mean,
Speaker 1: was it true that you guys, when you saw all
Speaker 1: the builders in House one's house, that you actually went
Speaker 1: over and asked them about their budget and what was
Speaker 1: going on there before Lea and Ash? Is that is
Speaker 1: that a true story?
Speaker 3: Oh? This is a tough one because I don't want
Speaker 3: to I don't want to play this tip for that game,
Speaker 3: but that landscape a week Leah spoke to us Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Each day she said this is going on. Have you
Speaker 3: seen today? Are you aware of it? We love Kylon Leslie,
Speaker 3: and we really just wanted to stick in our own lane,
Speaker 3: to be honest, and so every time Leah would come
Speaker 3: to us, we would be like, Lee, if you have
Speaker 3: a problem, go to them and go now, because if
Speaker 3: you call for an audit and there's any discrepancies there.
Speaker 2: And they owe money, oh man, that's awful.
Speaker 3: Like catch, like get it in before there's any money
Speaker 3: paid out so that they can correct anything. We just
Speaker 3: didn't care about what was happening there. We didn't care
Speaker 3: about what yard Brett did. Well I didn't either, Like,
Speaker 3: we just did our own thing and as long as
Speaker 3: we could do what we wanted to do, that was fine.
Speaker 3: So when Lea's coming out saying oh there was bitching,
Speaker 3: everyone had a problem with it, and I was the
Speaker 3: only one that spoke up, and I nipped it in
Speaker 3: the button. And it's like, Bro, you moaned about it
Speaker 3: and you didn't go to them until like you didn't
Speaker 3: have that proper conversation until Thursday. By Thursday, we literally
Speaker 3: would like to hurt Leah and I not speak up
Speaker 3: to us about this one more time. If you don't
Speaker 3: go and speak to her, we don't want to hear
Speaker 3: about it again.
Speaker 1: But had you already spoken to them? Didn't you already
Speaker 1: have it?
Speaker 3: But we spoke to Kyland les were like, are you
Speaker 3: aware that there's this narrative?
Speaker 2: Get your books in order because there may be an audit.
Speaker 2: And we stand by.
Speaker 3: The fact that that like Kylon Leslie did everything that
Speaker 3: they were supposed to.
Speaker 2: I mean, what can you do when your landscape are
Speaker 2: saying this adds up, here's the receipts. What are you
Speaker 2: supposed to do? Kind of thing?
Speaker 3: So they what people didn't see as well is Kylon Leslie,
Speaker 3: My god they were.
Speaker 2: She was crying to us multiple times.
Speaker 3: A day like such. They had a prappy run, like
Speaker 3: you saw how we reacted after one bad week of
Speaker 3: feedback with our backyard.
Speaker 2: They were getting that every week and they were stowing.
Speaker 3: And undeserving because their rooms and everything were incredible, and
Speaker 3: truly we thought that all their feedback was undeserving, like
Speaker 3: they're all weeks that we won that. We were like,
Speaker 3: they should have beat us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like do you know what my theory is?
Speaker 1: And I'm now going to sound like how very Christian
Speaker 1: Brettweil what my conspiracy theory had on. But I feel like,
Speaker 1: because Kyle and Leslie as people and I've met them,
Speaker 1: I've had them on the podcast, they're not in your face,
Speaker 1: you know, they're not the funny people, and they're not
Speaker 1: the nasty people. They're just just your average normal people,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel like they low
Speaker 1: scored them to try and rather to get more content
Speaker 1: out of them. That's my conspiracy.
Speaker 2: And we were so naive through the show.
Speaker 3: We never no one ever had questions with us, like
Speaker 3: question us like guys, you're not giving us what you
Speaker 3: said you would or anything, which is like you hear
Speaker 3: murmurs of like that being said to other couples, and
Speaker 3: we just so we just were like to do this
Speaker 3: is all us and it's all them and Ladi Dare
Speaker 3: and but then watching it back, we're like, oh, us
Speaker 3: coming equal with Christian Bretton. We had to go away
Speaker 3: with them that that doesn't seem overly like that's e's
Speaker 3: a squit rig But again we were like we couldn't
Speaker 3: read into it, otherwise we'd lose our minds. I think
Speaker 3: Colin Leslie.
Speaker 1: I'm just laughing because when they made you go away
Speaker 1: on that weekend together, I mean, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: no one should drink well, no one should have conversations
Speaker 1: with people they're not going along with with wine. And
Speaker 1: I could just read between the lines. I could see
Speaker 1: all of you. I reckon you might have been on glass. Three.
Speaker 1: You look like you're on glass.
Speaker 3: We wanted us to keep having conversations Scotty, we just
Speaker 3: got it, and we just wouldn't because we just wanted.
Speaker 2: We knew that Christian Brett didn't want to apologize. We knew,
Speaker 2: so we're like, don't force it.
Speaker 3: If you don't want to apologize, don't And then you know, also,
Speaker 3: just to clear up, there was no ulterior motive. We
Speaker 3: never said to Leah like don't be friends with them again.
Speaker 3: We actually said, and she'll stand by this. We actually
Speaker 3: said he would be a shame because I genuinely believe
Speaker 3: there was a friend get there between between them. And
Speaker 3: I never had a conversation with Lea about if you
Speaker 3: want a TV career or whatever.
Speaker 2: I literally said to her, are you aware this stuff's
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 3: Like just want to bring it to your attention because
Speaker 3: you might not know you're in the circle and not
Speaker 3: seeing it.
Speaker 2: That was the end of it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, in terms of Kyle and Leslie Luck, I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: We're aware it was a TV show first, building.
Speaker 3: Second, I think sometimes we did too much building and
Speaker 3: they weren't happy with us.
Speaker 2: Klein Leslie.
Speaker 3: I think they saw it as building too, and so
Speaker 3: I feel like the show needed them because there was
Speaker 3: so much crap going on as everyone's seen, it needed
Speaker 3: a nice, lovely, normal.
Speaker 1: Couple, although Leslie. When Leslie decided to finally buy into
Speaker 1: the drama, the only thing I could take you to
Speaker 1: to task over really was I couldn't understand because with
Speaker 1: the whole selling of the gnome, I felt like someone
Speaker 1: should have told House too. I feel like someone needed
Speaker 1: to go and tell And so there was this scene
Speaker 1: this week it actually felt like you girls weren't yourself,
Speaker 1: Like I felt like there was people pretending to be
Speaker 1: you because you guys were kind of laughing that they
Speaker 1: didn't know. And I was like, Lip and Eliza are
Speaker 1: the type of girls that are going to go over
Speaker 1: to Leah and say this is what's going down and
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be laughing about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we and in hindsight, I agree with you,
Speaker 3: I say, and we flagged. We just do you know
Speaker 3: what naively, maybe we just didn't feel like it was
Speaker 3: our position. It involved our two best friend couples, so
Speaker 3: we felt like if we stepped over the line, that
Speaker 3: we're betraying them. But then also I said, and I
Speaker 3: said a number of times, I was like, and one
Speaker 3: of it made it to air, but it did look
Speaker 3: like we were sort of laughing. It was like, you
Speaker 3: guys need to be aware. This is going to feel
Speaker 3: very personal. But they as well were like, why can't
Speaker 3: we just sell annoyman and do it?
Speaker 2: And they didn't.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't want to give that information because
Speaker 3: it becomes power.
Speaker 2: And then it's more mind games. I don't know. It
Speaker 2: was just like, let's just where things went awry.
Speaker 3: There was Leslie telling us, and Leslie telling especially Christian Breadth.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't have been told to any of us because
Speaker 2: that's when it felt so personal.
Speaker 3: That's what we were like, rather not know about this,
Speaker 3: we said that and multiple times, or like we just
Speaker 3: didn't know about this, it's none of our business. We
Speaker 3: didn't want to betray our friends. But yes, in hindsight,
Speaker 3: like it was awful that Leara and Ash didn't know,
Speaker 3: and we were.
Speaker 1: Like, like, it's all gone three sixty though, like in
Speaker 1: this final week of the show, it's like everyone's now
Speaker 1: been shown to be my God at some point. Like
Speaker 1: Steph this week. We kind of saw it in the
Speaker 1: first two weeks that she was a bit hard to
Speaker 1: read and maybe being a bit hard to reach. She's yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: you know, and then now in this last week she's
Speaker 1: a savage some of the stuff. Think, I'm like, but
Speaker 1: don't you think it has to do with stack the tensions, stack,
Speaker 1: the situations build the pressure. By the time you get
Speaker 1: to the last week, it's normal behavior for good people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to do bad things and that's okay.
Speaker 3: And I feel bad for Colin Leslie because I feel
Speaker 3: like in this past two weeks they've come across as
Speaker 3: it hasn't been great for them. At some point, when
Speaker 3: you get negative feedback after negative feedback, and you're always
Speaker 3: this neutral person, you're always like being okay with everything
Speaker 3: and beingitive and stuff, at some point you've got you bother.
Speaker 2: And they were being there for us as well.
Speaker 3: They were like so unbelievable for our mum and dad
Speaker 3: and amazing to us, and so I feel it breaks
Speaker 3: my heart a bit seeing them, you know, edited this way,
Speaker 3: because there's there. They are the most divine couple we've
Speaker 3: ever met. They've got the most beautiful family that I've
Speaker 3: never met, two more well behaved kids of their kids, yeah,
Speaker 3: ever in my life. So they're amazing. I feel bad
Speaker 3: for them that they've Yeah, this past two weeks is
Speaker 3: kind of it's crumbled down a little bit for them.
Speaker 1: Everyone's been shown like that, Like even when you Eliza
Speaker 1: were yelling at the builder and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is just so weird, Like is this gremlin's week?
Speaker 3: I know, And I was like, I watching that back,
Speaker 3: and I was really worried about it as well, because
Speaker 3: I'm very much you know, saying be respectful to other people.
Speaker 3: And I just snapped there as well, and I could
Speaker 3: have dealt with that differently. But yeah, it's a combination
Speaker 3: of sleep deprivation and that week as well. I felt
Speaker 3: there are a few situations where I felt like I
Speaker 3: wasn't being taken seriously because I.
Speaker 2: Was a fiend.
Speaker 3: We had some guys come in and take insulation from
Speaker 3: us without asking for a different house, and I was like.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: They wouldn't speak to me, and I was like, you
Speaker 3: wouldn't do that to Ash, and I even said that,
Speaker 3: and so I was like, I need to command respect here.
Speaker 2: I'm not being taken seriously. It was not good. I'll
Speaker 2: own that.
Speaker 3: But you're right, you just come it boils. You are
Speaker 3: so sleep deprived, three months of essentially getting no sleep.
Speaker 3: You're so overwhelmed, you're so stressed, you're exhausted, You're ready
Speaker 3: to go home. You haven't seen your family, barried, you
Speaker 3: haven't seen your friends, You're not in normal life. You've
Speaker 3: put on six kilos. Like we just it's just a
Speaker 3: culmination of everything somewhat. We're all human. You're bound to
Speaker 3: like be you know, out of character. And where I started.
Speaker 2: Laughing because I look back at it then and now
Speaker 2: and even said it and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is good TV. I couldn't believe what was happening.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is an incredible season, and like
Speaker 2: it's just happening as far as I was aware organically,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, I mean, the selling the
Speaker 2: gnome and then the fact that you know there's I
Speaker 2: was just like, how is this happening? What is going on.
Speaker 1: We're all capable of bad, shitty behavior, but there is
Speaker 1: some real truth in the fact that we can't be
Speaker 1: too hard on ourselves because in the real world, you know,
Speaker 1: we do get tired, we do get stoppy, and we
Speaker 1: don't always face at the best level that we want to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's okay, and.
Speaker 3: It becomes this dog eat dog sort of and subconsciously
Speaker 3: you're in this little bubble and by the end you're like,
Speaker 3: you're the only people that exist, and so you just
Speaker 3: like and cameraman are there for you, and you're just
Speaker 3: like in this ulterior you're in the Truman Show a
Speaker 3: little bit too. Yeah, it's like but it feels like
Speaker 3: it's you're in an ulterior universe, like it truly does.
Speaker 3: You're not in the real You're not in the world.
Speaker 1: It is in the real world, but it's not the
Speaker 1: real world. It very much is lib I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is the Truman Show because there are
Speaker 1: some controlled elements and you will always question whether or
Speaker 1: not things happened because it was staged a little bit
Speaker 1: for television. There's a show in the UK where they say,
Speaker 1: you know, not everything that you watch on this show
Speaker 1: is real. We have given it a bit of finesse.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of all shows, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like there's always going to be think about all the
Speaker 1: crew and the cast and the producers work on that
Speaker 1: show to make that show what it is. There's always
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit, a little bit of magic.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was a bridesmaid on Married at First
Speaker 3: Sight for my friend, right, my friend remember and I
Speaker 3: that was different, So that was a different experience. They
Speaker 3: were like giving you drinks and they were putting words
Speaker 3: in your mouth and they're asking the same thing a
Speaker 3: hundred times until.
Speaker 2: They get the answer that they want. That truly didn't.
Speaker 3: For sure, there's may on things, and you know, like yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure we were sent away deliberately on that weekend
Speaker 3: with Christian Red. But as a whole, I genuinely believe
Speaker 3: it was like the honest like.
Speaker 1: It's why it's still on television though, It's why it
Speaker 1: has twenty years, you know, like we're going to get
Speaker 1: twentieth seasons. The twentieth season is next year. That is
Speaker 1: such an achievement and I and you know what, there's
Speaker 1: been lots of people saying that the block has had
Speaker 1: its time because of this series, because of all the drama.
Speaker 1: I just feel like this is a chapter in the story.
Speaker 1: You know, we haven't had this every year. This is
Speaker 1: the nature of this show. This is just this year's story.
Speaker 3: And we asked Lucky the casting direct his thoughts around casting,
Speaker 3: and he said he normally casts for sort of the location. Right.
Speaker 3: So last year, Gismond, it was very much about the
Speaker 3: strength in the couple and how they would banter together
Speaker 3: because they were so far away from many other couples
Speaker 3: that they needed that strength in the couple, the charisma
Speaker 3: within the couple. Whereas for us, it was like Melroe's place,
Speaker 3: I think, which you've referred to as well, And it
Speaker 3: totally was that our backyards back onto each other. And
Speaker 3: we're a little bit younger, I mean, I'm thirty seven, however,
Speaker 3: want to interact. Yeah, and that banter And so next
Speaker 3: year it'd be interesting to see. I don't know really
Speaker 3: what the former is for next year, but like there'll
Speaker 3: be a whole nother you know, casting why they're casting
Speaker 3: the people that they do, and people threatened to switch off,
Speaker 3: but they ain't. He's good and like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: numbers are up the drama is apparently the way forward.
Speaker 1: I've asked the last few, the last few houses that
Speaker 1: have come on the pod, I've asked them this question.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask at the start because I think it
Speaker 1: would be too hard. What are your thoughts on the auction?
Speaker 1: What is your order? Can you basically give me what
Speaker 1: you think the order of the houses are in terms
Speaker 1: of money that they're going to make.
Speaker 3: I just think Stephan Jihn have this in the bag
Speaker 3: and they are just hustlers. Power to them, we love them,
Speaker 3: They've got it. I just think they'll be first and
Speaker 3: all guns blazing. I think everyone will want their house
Speaker 3: because they'll have a higher reserve. Like us, we've got
Speaker 3: bigger land sizes and things like that, but they've been
Speaker 3: able to inject so much money into it. Then you've
Speaker 3: got I think, I don't know. Then I think reserves
Speaker 3: could be low.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I almost think maybe House one.
Speaker 1: Because so I would say, so we've got House four
Speaker 1: and then you're like House one.
Speaker 2: It could be do you know what I'm going to
Speaker 2: back us? It could be someone like how's one.
Speaker 3: That's going to have a lower reserve. Ere it could
Speaker 3: be us who we know people might go for after
Speaker 3: Stephan Jarhm's house. It's the same, like we've got a
Speaker 3: beautiful open floor plan which is receiving really good feedback
Speaker 3: in the family vibe of it. So one or us,
Speaker 3: but then but then also there's two or three three,
Speaker 3: it could be on.
Speaker 2: The same level. I think they'll win money.
Speaker 3: But then also I from what I understand, they've got
Speaker 3: less interest, but who knows, and they have lower reserves,
Speaker 3: so to be honest, the only thing I'm clear on
Speaker 3: is house for taking it out and taking it out hard.
Speaker 1: I think if anyone watches Sir Sean, what they need
Speaker 1: to learn. That was very clever from Stephan gre was
Speaker 1: the Japanzee theme. Yeah, you know, something so simple but
Speaker 1: so clever that it pulled a story together for the house.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: They are they are twenty seven years old, and my god,
Speaker 3: are they smart and switched on and they have got
Speaker 3: their gear together and their game players for sure, but
Speaker 3: they I think they own it and they stuck in
Speaker 3: their own lane. And we love them so much, and
Speaker 3: I just that's and they I know, Christin and Brett
Speaker 3: don't think our relationship there will last, but we've got
Speaker 3: life long friends. We've made plans for next year. And
Speaker 3: it's a weird relationship because they're ten years younger than us,
Speaker 3: but we have so much respect and they've taught us
Speaker 3: stuff vice versa, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're I'd be hanging out with them if I
Speaker 1: was you thinking they were my parents, Like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They do.
Speaker 3: And every time I get fired up in an interview,
Speaker 3: they're like, Olaza, you know, try and don't get too
Speaker 3: caught up in that.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, thanks, mom, I think that that Jean
Speaker 1: isn't Jan like one of the most loveliest.
Speaker 2: He's everyone's favorite.
Speaker 3: We go that where the three wives, Steph, Eliza and
Speaker 3: I his three wives. We just ador him so much,
Speaker 3: does want to be around him.
Speaker 1: That's a show in itself. Anyway, before you go, what
Speaker 1: is something from behind the scenes, something that we as
Speaker 1: an audience won't see, kind of like a behind the
Speaker 1: scenes like secret or just maybe a funny anecdote that
Speaker 1: happened while you're making this show.
Speaker 2: Libs cist, she's got her head, Sist.
Speaker 3: I'm so sad this didn't make the show.
Speaker 2: So Lib's got all these bumps, what are they?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: So I've just got a couple of like, little.
Speaker 1: Do we need to ask if this if the cysts
Speaker 1: are okay with being a part of this story.
Speaker 3: They are, They're fine. I don't know it was I
Speaker 3: thought it was going to make part of the show
Speaker 3: as a story. But I've got these little cists that
Speaker 3: are like horns on my head and then nothing, I've
Speaker 3: had them checked before anyone, you know, jumps up and
Speaker 3: says that, you know, cancerous or something. They're fine, But
Speaker 3: on the show one of them burst and it got
Speaker 3: infected because of all the dirt and crap everywhere. So
Speaker 3: it was like pussing an Each.
Speaker 2: Day it would be a new scene, a new murder scene.
Speaker 3: So new people would come in and have a look,
Speaker 3: and like it would be our dad's a diet and
Speaker 3: he looked at it. Dad came for a visit and
Speaker 3: he was looking at it, and truly it was this
Speaker 3: whole storyline and we're like, we cannot wait to see
Speaker 3: this player on TV. And then none of it's been
Speaker 3: But then the last little bit of that it scabbed,
Speaker 3: and Limbs took the scab off and put it on
Speaker 3: the bench, and I one day thought it was a rock,
Speaker 3: and so I was like picked, I was brushing my teeth,
Speaker 3: picked it up and I had put it in the
Speaker 3: bin or whatever, and then I was eating and stuff
Speaker 3: and then sorry if you're gagging everyone but that, and.
Speaker 1: I was like, who's listening to this right now? Has
Speaker 1: just literally over the car?
Speaker 3: And how did you work single before? We certainly be
Speaker 3: around now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to catch up with you in a
Speaker 1: year's time to find out whether either of you have
Speaker 1: married a fan. I think it feel like it could.
Speaker 2: Happen, you know, beggars can't be choosers at this point.
Speaker 1: To be honest, girls, thank you both so much for
Speaker 1: your Canada. I think we got to unpack some stuff
Speaker 1: there that might have been really hard for you to
Speaker 1: sort of get into. But I appreciated your honesty, and
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's very clear when people will
Speaker 1: be listening back to this how they feel about the
Speaker 1: two of you. And sometimes when shows are on television
Speaker 1: there's a lot left out for people to interpret, where
Speaker 1: I hope having some of these sorts of conversations and
Speaker 1: people being able to listen into long form gives some
Speaker 1: better context.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, and everyone deserves that, I reckon like
Speaker 3: the context that's sometimes hard. I think as a whole
Speaker 3: captured everyone's characters, but sometimes yeah, context, context was lacking
Speaker 3: a little. But yeah, wow, we drama still going on.
Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting. Options is going to be interesting.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well this series of the block that there
Speaker 1: needs to be like a like an Andy Cohen reunion, specially.
Speaker 3: Oh my house, I wouldn't that be in Maybe you're
Speaker 3: hosting it.
Speaker 2: Then you are so good hosting that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you both so much. I'm great enjoy the
Speaker 1: rest of the series as well.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being asking the hard questions and allowing
Speaker 2: yeah I really actually yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Well look after yourselves, and I hope you've been lots
Speaker 1: of money. Thank you by your cheeseburgerphone, by everyone.
Speaker 3: I'll buy your whole meal.