WEBVTT - Eliza & Liberty - THE BLOCK - Reality TV Personalities 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.880 TV Reload the podcast past Deep their line Welcome back 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.360 guys to TV Reload. As you may know, my name 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:10.040 is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to get 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.719 all the inside goss on the popular TV shows that 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.800 you may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, our 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.840 TV sets are still a major part of our home entertainment, 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:21.680 and yet very little is known about how our favorite 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.000 shows get made. So each episode, I've been finding guests 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.320 that want to dive just that little bit deeper into 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:29.840 the shows they're currently making, so that you can hear 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.559 all their exclusive stories and gain access to some of 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.080 the biggest names in Australian television. I want to thank 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.440 you for downloading or subscribing to this podcast however you've 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.879 found me. I really do love hearing your feedback, so 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.320 make sure you leave a review or a comment on 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.440 your chosen podcast platform. On today's podcast, I have House 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:52.680 five Victoria's contestants Eliza and Liberty, arguably the most popular 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:56.160 contestants from The Block twenty twenty three. This series of 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.480 the Block, we have seen more drama than any other 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.400 theories so far, and after nineteen seasons. That's a pretty 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.479 big statement to make. Viewers have been up in arms, 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.960 Karen's on keyboards are out of control, and even radio 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.280 hosts have been calling out contestants. But the ratings are 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.840 up and it is currently the most watched show on television. 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.520 Some may say Eliza and Liberty's contribution to the series 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.480 has been just what the series needed to balance out 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.800 some of the drama, and others may say that they 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.039 are a part of the problem. But both have potential 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.360 media careers to consider, and today we're going to get 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.840 to the bottom of their thoughts and feelings on every 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:34.920 bit of their time on The Block twenty twenty three. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.240 I will talk about their issues with House three and 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.480 how they feel about the way in which Christy and 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.040 Brett have been trolled online. We will find out everything 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.240 you need to know about their relationship with Hamish and Andy, 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.639 from if they help them to get on the show 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.320 to if Andy is actually going to buy their house. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.279 You will get the girls' predictions on the final auction, 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.279 and we will also find out who Eliza and Liberty 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.880 are planning a lifelong frenchhi with. Plus, we will get 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.280 plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of The Block 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.840 twenty twenty three, which has its final few episodes coming 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.360 to an end. Oh my god, that auction is stressing 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.519 me out. If you've fallen just a little bit behind, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.639 you can catch up on nine now, and I believe 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.480 you should do so because it has been so juicy. Anyway, 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.240 let's bring Eliza and Liberty into the podcast, and guys, 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.079 I really hope you enjoy this fascinating look at the 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.720 Block for twenty twenty three, as you will get a 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:31.000 backstage pass like we've never had before. I am so 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.440 excited to talk to the two of you. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:33.560 Are we recording now? 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.920 Well I should have said hello, but look anyway, how 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:36.919 are you both? For you both? 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:38.920 Well, yes, we're really good. We're good. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.120 We can't believe things are about to finish. 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.960 Oh okay, is that really stressful, because I mean, you know, 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.400 when you're mid season of a show like this, you think, 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.960 oh my god, my whole life's been consumed and this 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:49.919 is never going to end. 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.560 You know what, we're finding we're going on the same 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.280 ride as we did in the show. Because with about 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.680 three weeks to go to the end of filming, we 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.239 were like, oh my god, how are you going to 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.600 cope with this, and we were so upset and we're like, 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.840 what's life going to be? And then like the week 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.600 that it was ending, we're like, we cannot do a 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.360 moment longer. Like if we if they told us we 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:08.920 had to do another week, we would probably be like, 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.440 we can't do it, atcha. So we're kind of feeling 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.400 a little bit like that now. And it's a combination 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.840 of like working full time and doing you know, all 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.519 of the block staff. You know, you're all consumed by 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.960 you know, things that are coming up auction order and 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.480 auction and the drama that's still going on behind the 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.519 scenes and just all of that stuff. So I think 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.320 we're kind of ready for it to be done, but 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.520 excited about what's ahead for us too. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.239 Well. You know, this series is so popular, and it's 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.040 because it is the only reality show where the outcome 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.720 really and truly by the producers and everyone. No one 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.440 knows how it's going to end. People could end up 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.320 with no money, people could end up with eight hundred 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.640 and fifty thousand dollars. It's a very stressful situation for you, 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:50.120 for you all to be in. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.400 Yeah, but the only good thing for us is we 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:57.200 came into this with no expectations. Our only hope was 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.320 that it would give our life a bit of a 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.160 jolt because we both lived together. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:03.320 We're sisters, but. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.680 We're not really friends, Like we respect each other, but 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.160 we're both yeah single, we're yeh, set in our ways, 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.560 not you know, taking any risks or challenging ourselves, and 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.280 so we just did this for a live shakeup and 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:17.200 that's what we've got. 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.440 So obviously money would be a bonus. 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.039 We've come away with great friendships, but we feel like 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.240 we've got everything out of the show that we needed too. 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.320 Does that mean you guys have been on the apps? 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.320 Have you been dating? Has this show up to the 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.640 dating level? Like what's going on? Oh? 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.880 Quite the opposite, which is like so frustrating. Literally every 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.839 day we get asked like did you find boyfriends? And 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.120 we're like no, A few reasons on the show, we 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.520 just the moment we stepped on the block, we were like, 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.160 we have no time. All the trades and stuff told 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.440 us we would ask everyone as they came in what 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.040 their marital status was, and everyone told us they were 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.760 either married or coupled up all whatever, And we don't 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.719 know whether that was true. Whether that was a lie, 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:54.640 and then yeah, we've been so busy since. But we 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.279 also don't have control of our socials at the moment really, 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.840 so yeah, no one's we're not getting any DMS or 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:00.320 an thing. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.719 I ain't nobody dropping in the family that's coming. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:04.720 You know. I'll tell you a really funny story. And 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.400 I'm not going to use this person's name because she'll 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.560 kill me, but someone who is in the media that 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.560 I know at my fortieth birthday said to me after 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.240 quite a few drinks, a fan is writing to me 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.919 on Instagram, and you know, I've always been with my 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.680 partner since doing any kind of media. She was like, 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.760 but if you were single, would you go on a 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.800 date with a fan? And I was like oh, and 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.400 I was like, yeah, just do it anyway, she married him. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.880 No, that is brilliant. Well that's amazing. So there's hope 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:39.440 for us yet marry a fan? Oh mycos mate. Oh yeah, 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.560 it depends how set a fan fanny they are. Hey, 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.480 but we don't got no fans because we were gutta rats. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.520 You know, Eliza Shor, it was really funny the first 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.360 time I saw you on the at the set of 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.200 the Block. I don't know if you remember this. I 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:52.720 felt like it was going to be a storyline on 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.760 the show. I walked up to you and I said, 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.400 I've got one of the mirrors. I walked up to 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.320 you and said, could do you have one of these? 0:05:59.520 --> 0:05:59.760 Yes? 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.440 So I was like, I've collected all of these from 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.120 the other houses and they're quite amazing. And then you 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.320 were like what is that? Took it off me and 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.440 ran away because you were like, we were told we 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.599 were not allowed to make those brochures. 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:16.640 The main the domain challenge mid season, and there were 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.640 all these rules about what we could and couldn't do, 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.159 and every other house made a booklet of their house, 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.800 and apparently we were all told we couldn't print paraphernalia 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:26.240 like that. 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.640 But our whole team's a bit stickler for the rules. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.839 So I saw that pile that you had at four 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.200 other houses, and I was like, excuse me. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.479 For a minute, and I ran off and I was like, what. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.040 House. No, I didn't. I wasn't really like that, but 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.919 but yeah, you had all the other houses, but we 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:43.719 just didn't do it. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.000 But that's okay, Joe. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.320 That's the reason why with the block for viewers, they 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.279 watch and they sort of think about what's fair and 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.800 what's not fair, and they get annoyed about one person 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.279 calling out something else. But it's because Julian's really good. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.760 He's the executive producer for people at home that are 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.760 playing along, but he's really good at allowing there to 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:06.080 be things left open to interpretation, which means that it's contestants. 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.360 You have to constantly think is it okay to call 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.600 people out about what one person was told over another? 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.200 Am I going on the right path here? 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:13.680 Yeah? 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.160 And I think as well for us, because we didn't 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.880 know anything, we just asked a hell of a lot 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.040 of questions and that's how we found out a lot 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.400 of our information, and like we're able to tap in 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.880 a lot of into a lot of resources. So yeah, 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.160 I just think it was valuable in that sense for 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.440 us being so clueless, because we were able to gain 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.720 so much information and know who to go to if 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.640 we needed something. But you know, Asher whatever, being a builder, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.560 he sort of was able to do his own thing 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.040 and know a lot of things and didn't need to 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.840 ask a lot of things, which I think in some 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.080 instances could have been to his detriment because he could 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:48.840 have maybe. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.360 Been accessing more resources. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:51.040 I don't know. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.080 All I know is if we didn't know something, we 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:53.800 would just ask. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.080 It's kind of the reason why I enjoyed you two 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.440 being cassed when you were, because it was that you 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.200 had no real experience. And I think that represents a 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.440 large part of the audience that want to watch the block. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.520 You know, there'd be so many people that would want 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.920 to go on the show that don't have that building experience. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.120 So I think people could relate to you quite highly 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:14.960 for that reason, do you think, Yeah, totally. 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:16.680 And the feedback that we're getting from people that we're 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.360 chatting to, you know, in the public and on socials 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.000 and things, is that we are so relatable because we 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.840 literally had zero experience. But we came in and we 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.200 just worked so hard and that was what our kind 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.000 of method was coming in and our strategy, if you will, 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.320 was just working so hard and never giving up. And 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.920 I think that, you know will we won three rooms. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.200 So I think that's, you know, shown that you can 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.960 be successful without having that experience. And yet I think 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.640 there's various parts of it. It's both detrimental and advantageous because, 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.280 like Eliza said, we asked so many questions. We were 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.440 just sponges. We took on board feedback and we didn't 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.080 have any sort of expectations or yeah, anything coming into it, 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.280 particularly from it, and sponsors and things said that as well, 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:57.760 that they loved that we just came in with an 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.440 open mind and we just couldn't make decisions based on 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.720 their guidance and feedback and things. But obviously having no 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.920 experience meant we couldn't really do anything, you know, any 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.760 of the labor and stuff, because you know, like Ash could, 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.319 let's say, tools down at five pm. Ash could then 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.280 you know, do stuff himself as a builder, whereas our 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.360 builders believe for the day and we'd be like, oh, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:18.920 we don't know what we're doing, so we couldn't really 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.040 do anything wenoculate and paint through them like those things. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.240 But yeah, but like Ash could actually, yeah, I know 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:25.560 it was something buildery to do. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.880 Just picturing you trying to pick up a chainsaw or 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.319 given something really dangerous. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.160 Clueless not allowed. So I think, and I think as 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.880 well the sister Banter and that relationship is very relatable 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.760 as well, And we truly were just who we are 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.720 and the best bit of feedback that we can get 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.120 from people, which we've got a lot of is Oh 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:47.960 my gosh, you guys are the same on screen as 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.080 you are off screen, and that's just who we were, 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.880 which is really important to us. We didn't play characters 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.360 or be anyone that we weren't. So yeah, that's that's 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.280 the best bit of feedback that we could possibly get. 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:58.720 Well, I thought it was going to be a bit 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.839 of a backlash for you. I thought the block fans 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.400 we're going to be like, no, they don't have any 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.480 building experience. And I remember Jules even saying to me, Oh, 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.360 I'm sure there's going to be lots of people that 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.000 are going to have a problem with them not having 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.000 building experience. But he was like, oh, I think audiences 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.199 will appreciate them, because he mentioned that you both were 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:20.280 so grateful for the experience, and he said that gratitude 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.840 comes through the camera, you know quite a lot. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.080 Well, I mean, we've rented our whole lives. We ain't 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:29.400 got no money for renovations ourselves. So it was a 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.000 two part thing in like a live shakeup for us, 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:33.760 but then also being able to have a crack at 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.600 something that we never would in our ordinary lives with 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.280 our access to this kind of money. It really was 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.840 a once in a lifetime potentially opportunity for us because 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.160 we don't have the money to do something like this 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.520 in real life. So yeah, it just felt like we 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:51.560 were kids in a candy shop a little bit and 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.040 just got to experience something that was a bit of 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.800 a dream in all senses. And I think we were 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.960 grateful because we truly needed that life shake up. And 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.840 there's quite a love lie moment for me at the 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.760 end of the show where I, yeah, talk about what 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:06.720 it kind of meant for me, and where you know, 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.520 I was almost like, where does my life? Sounds so overdramatic, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.199 but I was because I was so set in my 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.679 ways and routine driven and I was struggling to get 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.400 out of that. For me, I was like, where's my 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.360 life going to go if I don't do something like 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.200 this drastic to like shake me up? And so I 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.160 think we were so grateful that we had this opportunity 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.640 because it truly did change our lives in the most 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.240 positive way, and that I was, yeah, afraid, like where 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.559 would I go? Would I just keep being this that 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:35.079 I don't really love? Yeah, nine cats if I didn't 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:36.640 do this. So that's why I think we were so 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.200 grateful the whole time. And to be fair, like everyone 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:43.559 working on this show, crew, production, other contestants, like everyone 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.199 is there to help us make money in it and 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.560 change our lives. So we again were so grateful for 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.000 that because we just knew that everyone was working towards, yeah, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:54.960 the opportunity for us to make a lot of money, 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:56.840 And so how can you not be grateful when that's 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:58.040 what everyone's there for for. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.520 You pretty amazing to get that experience. How did the 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.520 idea come up for the two of you, because like 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.600 there was some rumors about the fact that, you know, 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.280 you both worked as producers or Eliza, like I knew 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.640 that you'd worked with Hamish Nandy as a PA. You know, 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:12.840 there was some of these rumors going around that maybe 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.960 it was suggested to you through a different means, or 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.040 were you both just sitting in your apartment and thought, 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.319 let's just workshop an audition video. 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:26.040 Yeah, So we actually applied last year for gismon Thank God, 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.960 and we didn't get on. So we applied that it 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.200 was just something that popped up on one of the socials, 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.840 or we were following Lucky the casting director or something. Anyway, 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.040 didn't get through, and there was a remind because we'd 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.120 already been subscribed to that point, there was an email 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.440 reminder saying, oh, it's that time of year again. And 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.400 so we looked at each other and we were kind 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.520 of in the same place we were the year before, 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:48.920 and we thought, do we do it again? 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.240 And it was actually even better timing because we were 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.280 even more boring. 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.400 And set in our white ways. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.200 So yeah, we applied that year and we took a 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.920 different tax. The first year we did a boring like 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:01.880 video where we're. 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.000 Like, Hello, I'm Eliza, I'm Liberty, boring, boring. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.960 The second time, we pranked our parents and were saying 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.480 that we got on the block, which is their worst 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.320 nightmare for us to be on reality TV, And we 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.280 filmed their real reactions to that, and it was brilliant 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.760 because they were like, oh, you're going to embarrass yourselves 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.600 and no idea what you're doing. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:19.520 Convidence great, thanks Buch. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.120 And we just kept on getting through. But in terms 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:26.080 of the connection to our jobs, I actually. 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:31.160 Didn't tell Hami Shnandy until the final round of casting 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.240 because we just didn't expect to get through. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:34.640 And in the final round of. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.960 Casting, I was like, oh, my gosh, if this happens, 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.960 like I better let them know. And then also the 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.240 same with Channel nine. We didn't really give a whole 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.440 lot of information. I just said I was a personal assistant, 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.040 so neither parties knew, and I'm like, oh, I have 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:50.160 to let people know because there could be a conflict. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.480 Of interest there, and it actually was. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.760 They almost weren't going to let us on because even 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.520 though there was no help, it was actually the opposite. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.199 It was actually yeah detrimental where they were like, oh, 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.400 it could look like something was happening here, and so 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.160 we just have to have to think about how we 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.040 manage this. And I am me and said, you know, 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.240 if I leave my job, is that helpful? And it 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.959 was the right time after ten years anyway, And so 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:13.960 that's what we ended up doing. And we made a 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.199 concerted effort to try and not have that connection there 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.199 so people didn't jump to conclusions. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.040 But yeah, that failed. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.000 I remember being at that press day though, and I 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.440 walked in, I saw you, and I'd known who you 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.120 were and your connection to the boys, and I picked 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.360 it straight away. And then I joined a conversation with 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.320 a couple of journalists and they were all talking about it, 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.400 and I walked away from that conversation feeling like that 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.440 people were referring to you like a nepo baby. I 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.200 was like, you know what I mean, Like it was 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.360 such a I guess it's a human reaction to have 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.400 if you're so synonymous with working with such an iconic 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.840 part of Channel nine royalty, that there would be that 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:51.440 kind of speculation totally. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.960 And I'm not employed. I wasn't employed by Channel nine. 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.400 I'd never even been into a Channel nine building. I 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.280 worked from home and I just you know, did emails 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:00.640 and book flights and stuff like that. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.480 So there was no connection and it almost worked in 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:03.200 the opposite. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.200 How did you tell the boys and what was their reaction? 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:06.960 I think that's what people would really want to know. 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.720 Well, yeah, at this point, HAMI should move to Sydney, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.200 and so I was mostly looking after Andy. It really 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.560 was just an open conversation of like, oh, I should 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:16.800 let you know that we're through here. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.080 You know timelines, it all happen. 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.120 So quickly if it goes through, how do you feel 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.840 about it? Just I just wanted to respect everyone, and 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.840 the boys are so incredible. That's why I was with 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.160 them for ten years. And if they weren't comfortable, that 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.240 was something I would consider as well. But they were 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:34.200 so supportive of me chasing any dream I wanted to 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.360 and making any decisions I needed to. And they've checked 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.640 in even to this point and they're incredible. And there's 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:43.000 there's speculation that, you know, they were upset with what 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:44.240 they were seeing and you know. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.880 Speaking to executives that just did not happen. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.640 Well, that Andy's going to buy the house. Andy Andy 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.320 came through the house one day as they're like, wow, 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.560 you guys have done an incredible job. Thank you, Hamie bye. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:01.640 So it literally is just friendships now, supportive friendships. They're happy, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.920 they love nine, they're you know, it's all pure. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:06.840 Wouldn't it be great if they did buy the house, 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.600 like forget the rumors, Like, you know, come on, cough up, boys. 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.080 Do you know Andy's got a new house that he's working. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.200 On coming back from Sydney. I can tell you that 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:16.720 much right now. 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.600 Jame's not coming back from Sydney. So unfortunately that was 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:20.920 not a route I could explore. 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.520 I just also thought the thing with watching it back 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.840 on the cameras is how much time you must have 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.440 spent with them because I've known both of those boys 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:32.720 for probably nearly fifteen twenty years and not like we're 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.680 not very close, but we know each other. And I Eliza, 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.960 I could see your humor, the similarities in the humor, 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:41.680 like I feel like it must have rubbed off, Like 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.480 it's not a bad thing. It's but you guys are 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.840 coming across as like a female. Hey, mission Andy, after. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.240 Ten years, the wits is gonna sort of rub off. Yeah, 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.520 I think as well. I was actually hired. I was 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.560 a radio producer before I fell into that role as 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.200 air assistant, and it was more of a character fit 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:04.000 than and I experience fit because I hadn't been a 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.280 personal assistant. I'd been a producer and it was just 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.159 handy for me to know the landscape. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:09.440 That was more valuable to them. 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.600 And I think their whole team they're surrounded with character 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.320 fits and that works for them and so they just 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.840 enabled me to bring that out, do you know what 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.000 I mean. It wasn't like I had to be super professional. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.359 It was more like how we all got along. I 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.359 think I was able to learn from them and thrive. 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.439 But away from that and back into the fact that 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.440 you didn't have as much experience maybe building with everyone else. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.560 And I felt for you early days when you did 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:38.920 the second week room and I watched it like a 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.119 viewer and thought that room was great. I didn't think 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:42.679 there was anything wrong with it, so I was like, 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.479 this is amazing. And then they savaged you. But then 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.480 I was listening this morning, I got up really early 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.840 and I was listening to the podcast with you with Shelley, 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.440 and Shelley was like, Oh, that room was just really 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.200 basic and you did come a long way? Is that true? 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.200 Did you really listen to the judges and come a 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.600 long way or did you just keep trying to do 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.080 your best bit of both. 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.639 We look back at that room now and at the 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.880 time we were so proud of so embarrassing. Is that weak? 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.119 Liza was like, You've done so well, you could have 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.480 a career in styling, like blah blah blah. We could 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.119 not have been proud of. We were so happy. And 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.080 then to get that feedback from Mardy Fox to say 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.400 we were prefer to seeing empty room and nothing. That 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.600 hit me like an absolute ton of bricks, like not 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.440 my com I mean, we didn't have confidence anyway. I 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.719 think people could see that we were very self deprecating, 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.520 and we were always kind of down on ourselves because 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.640 we just didn't have the confidence. And so to hear 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.320 that when we kind of were sort of confident going 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:36.720 into the week, that yeah, just absolutely knocked out confidence tenfold, 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.440 particularly mine because I was the one doing the styling shopping. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.400 But it's funny looking back on it now because we 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.000 look back at that episode and the pictures of the 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.080 room and stuff, and we're like, oh, how heinous is 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.080 like the wallpaper and it was so cluttered and the 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:50.040 colors and everything. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:51.400 So TV over a sink. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.480 I know, I knew that was bad. And I remember 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.840 in the you know when there's the other episodes before 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.240 the reveals where you get to see all the building. Yeah, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:00.920 not that we've seen all of building this year, see 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.399 a lot of drama, but anyway, we saw that bit 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.600 and I could see one of you saying, yeah, the 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:06.600 TV needs to go up here, and I was like, 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.520 what like a spider in the corner of the room, Like, I. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.880 Know, so bizarre, And it's yeah, like so looking back 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.000 on that now, you're like, oh, it was god awful. 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.280 But yeah, we just we truly took on board so 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.080 much feedback every single week. Even though we were, you know, 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.840 agitated after the feedback listening to it and things, we 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:25.760 took it on board and we just tried to grow 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:27.760 every week. And so it was a combination of that 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:29.680 we just wanted to improve, Like, well, you came into 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.280 this being like, we just don't want to come last 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.760 every week, and so we were so happy if we 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.480 just didn't come last every single week, and we took 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.120 on board all the feedback. We just wanted to grow 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.800 and improve, and we also just did our best because 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:42.960 it just doesn't come naturally to us, Like I'm not 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.320 a super creative person, Like you're kind of creative, but 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.240 you're more you know, the project manager, you know, telling 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.439 everyone kind of what to do. So both of us 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.240 just didn't really have that creative nature to shop and 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.200 style and things. So we truly just did our best 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.439 and worked really hard, didn't give up, and sought as 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.440 much advice feedback as we possibly could from those around us. 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:04.919 Well, you ended up becoming like the bathroom Queens and 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.199 you won those two bathroom challenges, which I think is 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.560 hilarious and I'm so going to get done for being 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:13.080 sexist here. But if anyone knows anything about bathrooms. It's 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.640 my female friends, two girls together, two sisters. They know bathrooms. 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.000 That's all I could say, Well. 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:21.160 Exactly because I feel like, again, probably sexist, but we're 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.080 in there the most right Like me anyway, I'm in 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:24.679 there for hours. 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.600 But you were not looking at me right now. 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:30.600 But we just thought about everything, like even though we 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:32.639 got done for like heights and mirrors and things, but 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.760 you're really thinking what would I want? And you know, 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.560 even chucking the foot niches in the master on suite, 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.280 which we fought for hard, and every male trady was like, 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.920 what on earth are these abominations? So but as well, 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.000 I think that was when we were really coming into 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.960 our own and gaining confidence. 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:51.720 So and we love those spaces, so. 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.240 I know I've been in them. They're amazing. I did 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.119 have a problem with the Parsley wall. That's what I 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.760 called the Parsley Wall. But what I thought was hilarious 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:00.679 was when you won that challenge and you got to 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.360 go to the Langham with Scottie Camp, were those Parsley 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.320 walls actually there? Because it kind of felt like you know, 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.280 from a comedy movie, like all of a sudden he 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:11.399 was like, hey, girls, look over there and there was 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.560 like they look like they'd just been freshly hung. It 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.000 was there, and it was there. 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.760 We saw Shelley the other day and she had been 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.160 in Italy for the past six weeks and she said, 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:26.240 my goodness, I have seen that many mossholes in the restaurants, 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:29.120 in the hotels, in everywhere around Italy. And she was like, oh, 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:30.719 my kid said to me, I've got to take photos 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:32.240 and send it to you guys. And she's like, I 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.119 couldn't justify because she hated it. My trend said, as 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.320 I'm telling you, because they're everywhere around the world, I. 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:39.840 Could have believed that. Shelley kept staying to how gross 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.879 it was as well, like on your podcast. On the 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.359 Official Block podcast, Shelley brought it up again and was like, 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.320 I think you said, if you can afford to buy 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:48.120 a three million dollar house, you can afford to pull 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.600 the passi wall out or the moss wall. And she 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.399 still was like, oh oh, Like she. 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.080 Can't even talk about it, like someone had. 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:56.919 Spat on the floor in front of her. 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:58.639 You know what, We're fine with that because it's a 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.040 talking point. Like I knew that not everyone was going 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.600 to love it. Most people probably wouldn't. But to be honest, 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:05.440 now everyone's like the house with the moss wam. We're 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:07.600 like great, so it's a talking point and everyone wants 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:09.960 to come and see it, so like great for us. 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.720 I just couldn't believe there's any any of it left 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:15.119 because everyone on the Domain Challenge that went into that 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.200 room wanted to know if it was real. Yes, everyone 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:22.239 was picking a piece off. I was like, I was like, 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.400 that was going to look like it's got alopecia at 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:24.800 some point. 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:29.399 No, yeah, it's still standing strong. It's just next to 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:30.439 us now it's still. 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.399 Okay, great, it's still there. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad that 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.480 you've stuck with it. You both are very funny. And 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:37.320 I was sort of talking about that before and I 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:39.760 could not stop laughing at My favorite moment of the 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.520 two of you was painting that fence. They do add 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:45.840 in like sound effects and things like that, but but yeah, 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.119 I thought it was just really funny. Was it hard 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:50.800 to always have that sense of humor considering things were 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:51.520 so stressful? 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.640 Yeah, if you don't laugh, you cry for us. If 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.280 we didn't keep it lighthearted, we would have got in 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.600 our heads so much and overthought everything and the plot, 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:03.959 because that's what you saw with Backyard Week, where we 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.760 took things so hard and overthought everything. We were losing 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.879 our minds at the point at that point, and that 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:12.760 just wasn't pretty. So we really tried to just tackle 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:18.160 everything with positivity and in our natures. So for example, 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:20.359 I would just if I wanted to take a break, 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.600 I would just do it. And it would always annoy 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:25.520 Liberty so much, but I was like, I just have 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.000 to fully do what I would normally do in real life. 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:31.400 What you didn't see is quite how hard we worked, 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:33.960 and there's a lot of emphasis on me just like 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:37.720 given up for like procrastinating, which is totally true. But 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.760 we did way more all nighters than everyone else, and 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.280 you know what, that was probably mostly because we were 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:47.080 slow and the least experienced. And then from there, you know, 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.520 it plays into the asking questions, Like there were weeks 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.760 when we had three all nighters a week, and so 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:54.760 there are a couple of times where we had to say, hey, 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:56.720 we've got to pick something up, but we can't drive 0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:01.240 because we'll crash, and production would drive us. And that's 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:03.480 where you but other contestants just wouldn't ask or just 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.880 wouldn't have the level of all nighters that we did. 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.040 And so there was this look that there was misconception 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.239 that we were getting something and someone else didn't. But 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.520 if everyone would get the same if they were not 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.239 sleeping three nights a week. But yeah, in terms of 0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.360 that stuff, like I feel like, I know, Lib, you've 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.760 got frustrated with me. Yes, for sure, you manned up 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:22.760 quicker and harder, but. 0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:24.080 I still work really hard. 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.520 Yeah you did. I mean I certainly worked harder, but yeah, 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.920 like I think at the beginning, people were on socials 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:31.879 and stuff were like, all these girls need to take 0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:33.680 it a bit more seriously, like give the opportunity to 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:35.040 someone who you know really wants to do this and 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:36.719 to renovate and stuff. And for us, we took it 0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:39.280 so seriously. We worked so hard. That was our like 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.720 I said, our strategy coming into this is just working 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:44.000 our butts off. And we were told constantly that we 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.120 were the hardest workers on the block by like Keith 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:47.720 and things like that, so people could see that we 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.119 were working hard. But you just have to bring lightness 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.800 to it because it is so hard, Dane, And like, truly, 0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.240 if you didn't laugh, you would go so insane and 0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.320 like Alis said, we would get in our heads so much, 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.000 so we just had to bring a bit of that 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.359 comedic relief. And to be honest, watching it back, I'm like, 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.960 thank god we did, because there was so much drama 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.119 and bitchiness and all that sort of stuff that I 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.159 think people have told us that, like, thank god you 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:10.600 guys are on it to bring a bit of that 0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:14.280 like comedy and positivity and lightness and stuff. Yeah. 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.840 I think that Fence episode there's something really dramatic. I 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:18.520 can't remember what it is. I feel like there's something 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.240 really dramatically. 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.240 Comes yeah yeah about Leader. 0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:24.920 Yeah, so I felt like, you know, that Fence thing 0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:27.159 was like that level of tension that builds as an 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.920 audience and then when something silly happens, you get a release. 0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:32.639 And I feel like that's kind of what we were getting, 0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.800 you know. But as the experience with being like you know, 0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.919 producing and producing a podcast or producing radio, both of 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.080 you have got that. Did you try and self edit 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.760 at all? Like did you know what to deliver with 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.840 your humor at times? Like or maybe was was it 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:49.719 hard to get that sort of produce a voice out 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:50.200 of your head? 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:50.520 You know? 0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.680 The most crazy funny fun times were when there were 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.879 no cameras and we were like, oh, this is so 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.600 much gold they're missing, because you know, at four am 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.119 we were loopy and just trying to keep each other alive, 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.280 and Jan and Steph would come over and we'd like, 0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:07.800 you know, od on raspberry lollies and you know, it 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:08.360 was just. 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:10.080 They were the coolest moments. 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.800 But for us, we actually thought it might be an 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.480 advantage sort of knowing how that world works. 0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.880 But reality TV deearferent Cattle of Fish. 0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:20.320 And I worked for a production company and we make 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.879 create TV commercials. It could not be more different to 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.240 reality TV. So like there was no apart from I 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.720 think again where the grateful part comes into it. We've 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.040 worked behind the scenes, getting coffees, you know, doing running around, 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:33.760 doing dry cleaning, all that sort of stuff. So I 0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.920 think that's gave us a good indication of how hard 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.359 people were working for us, whereas perhaps some other contestants 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.800 didn't have, you know, that level of awareness and you 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.840 know gratefulness if is that a word gratefulness to yeah, 0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.480 I guess appreciate what people around you were doing and 0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.840 the logistics involved with everything. That is something we did 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.960 understand like a challenge or we would be afterwards to 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.760 the team, You guys, that was a mammoth effort, like 0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:00.400 incredible everything. We were just like to the group, amazing. Yeah, 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.280 but you guys, we know how hard that would have been. 0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:05.040 So we were just so thankful and that every what 0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.440 everyone did for us, the crew, But we were just ourselves. 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.399 We did not put anything on like that is well 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.720 and again I said this before, but the fact that 0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:14.560 people come up to us and say you're exactly like 0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:16.479 you are in real life, and our friends and family 0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:19.560 know that we were just completely ourselves. That is our 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:21.560 sense of humor, that is our bound that is our relation. 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.560 But that's getting us in trouble now, Ben, because we're 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.560 not prepared to switch off. For us, this wasn't a 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.199 TV show like I mean, of course it was, but 0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:32.320 I left my job of ten years. 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.080 You jeopardize your job. But we were real then and 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:35.600 we're real now. 0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.520 There was no off button for us when it stopped filming, 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.080 and so we're just for us. It's just a journey 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.639 of life as a whole, and we're just reacting to 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.960 everything like we would from start to finish. 0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.760 And yeah, it's probably overthinking everything. 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:50.320 But we did that during the show, so we're going 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.000 to do that now and react as we would in 0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:52.560 real life. 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:54.840 Is it hard then to hear that You've got two 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.040 other houses that have said that you both were very 0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:58.159 different off camera. 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.639 Yeah. Look, the hardest thing for us were questioning our 0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:04.520 integrity and our character is the most insulting thing for us, 0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.879 because ye we could not have been more ourselves, and 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.040 we were kind and we were respectful, and that was 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.760 our you know, what we wanted to be going into it, 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.480 because that is who we are in real life. We 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.200 had no idea what we were doing, so we didn't 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:18.240 have time to be anyone else. We never had producers 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:19.879 or anything saying to us that we needed to be 0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:23.080 anything different or needed to play a character or you know, 0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.960 exaggerate anything more. So we were completely ourselves. We you know, 0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.960 there's all these allegations of us like being cheats. Again, 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.600 we were like goodie two shoes. We were the opposite 0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.680 where we would like go over and above that people 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.520 would be like, oh god, like you don't need to 0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:40.240 be that like aim about things. So for that to 0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.680 be questioned for us is the biggest insult because we 0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.600 could not be less of those people. And that's what 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.360 we're like in real and we didn't want it to 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.400 become tip for tat, but when there's words like they 0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.280 were the biggest cheaters on the block, you're like, I'm 0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.479 just not going to let that lie because integrity to 0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:59.719 us is the most important thing ever. And what what 0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.760 I've struggle with is, you know, and I've heard Brett say, like, 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:04.960 this is a job now and we all need to 0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:09.720 be respectful. You didn't earn my respect then, so unfortunately. 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:10.440 You're not going to get it now. 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.360 Like you can't come on a show and drop grenades 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.720 and then the camera stop and we're supposed to ignore 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.720 those grenades that have gone up off and the debris 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:22.200 that you've left behind and the people that you've hurt. 0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.200 So in terms off, we're going to talk about real. 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:29.040 It's really interesting because we actually did see lovely glimpses 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:32.560 of Christie and Brett and in those moments, you're having 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.960 a great time and we can acknowledge we actually could 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.640 really laugh at what Brett did around the front yard 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.280 backyard think trying to win the car, and we're like, 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.480 that's golden. They're the moments that like power to you 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:45.440 run a muck and do those things. And when we 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.320 robbed Stephan Giann's house, it was all light hearted fun, 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.520 but it just went too far. It got too nasty, 0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.000 and the mind games and laughing at someone for thinking 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.520 that they're your friend when you've tried to befriend them, 0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.000 it's just it just we just found that quite sick. 0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.040 And afterwards we were saying, you know, but we're confused 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.680 because you know, you would show these glimpses of case. 0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.360 We'd get messages from Christy saying, hey, guys, we don't 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.800 like seeing you down, and that was off camera, and 0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.040 so afterwards I said to them, I was like, we 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.720 saw those glimpses. Why do you allow people to see 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:18.880 those glimpses of you that we were so connecting and vulnerable? 0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.040 And they're like no, because that is not what we 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:22.960 wanted to bring to the show. We wanted to be 0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:25.000 the villains. And I'm like, hang on a second, but 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.239 you're saying you're the realest people on the block, but 0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.400 that's part of you, So how are you real if 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.040 you left that whole part of you out? So it's 0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.440 confusing and as well, you know, we came on, we 0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.640 played it like Survival. We'd never watched the block, and 0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:40.880 then Brett's saying in an episode, oh, we the last 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.280 two seasons we found really boring, so we wanted to 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:44.640 come on to jazz it up. 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.560 And I'm like, hang on, you've never watched it? What 0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.560 is it? I find them so confusing. I just don't 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:49.920 get it. 0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.320 I think it's confusing for the viewers as well, because 0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.960 whilst there is this presence of House three and House 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.320 two being kind of the villains of the series in 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.600 lots of ways, we then get glimpses of you all 0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.520 hanging out and being very supportive of each other. Is 0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.720 there a possibility that there's a bit of a sibling 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:10.080 relationship that develops amongst a cast like this, where you, yourselves, 0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:13.160 being sisters, would know that sometimes you can hate that person, 0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.520 but if anyone else said anything bad about them, you 0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.440 defend them, you know. Is there a level of intensity 0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:22.320 that has been created that may have made for a 0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.280 bit of sibling rivalry behind the scenes. 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.719 I I mean, I would love to say yes and 0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.920 have that as the reason behind it, But to be honest, 0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.400 what we're struggling with now is watching it back and 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:36.120 I know it's this whole, like they're like, don't live 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.720 in the edit, but unfortunately we're still seeing that off 0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:43.360 camera as it was on camera. So that's where we're struggling. 0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:45.640 Like if straight after they'd been like, we played these 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.520 characters and that's not who we are, and you know, 0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.520 we're these different people and like blah bah blah, like 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:54.120 no worries, and you'd go, okay, that's okay, But unfortunately 0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.120 it hasn't been like that for us in our experience, 0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.640 from our opinions, and I think again, what a lot 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:03.120 of people didn't see was the behind the scenes stuff 0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:07.360 and the aftermath of how they treated people. So we're 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.760 the one sitting there consoling people who are potentially mistreated, 0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:14.600 mistreated and seeing how that is affecting them. And that's 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:19.040 real life people being mistreated and yeah, the impact that's 0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.360 having on them and us picking up the pieces and 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:25.040 helping people or us ourselves feeling like that. So that 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.600 is real life to us. That's not people's feelings and 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.960 mental health and stuff is real life for us. Eliza's 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.720 a mental health advocate. You know, we've both had mental 0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.800 health you know, ups and downs in the past, so 0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.720 it's really important to us and it's not a joke. 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.040 So I sort of go, if you're regardless of if 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.440 you're that person in real life or you're coming on 0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:45.680 a TV show to play that character and are willing 0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.760 to hurt people through that process, to me, that's just 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.040 as bad as each other. So it doesn't matter if 0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.680 you're playing a character or not. If you're willing to 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:57.560 do that to hurt people and affect people's mental health, Yeah, 0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.200 that to me is kind of just as bad. And 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.520 because we're seeing this same thing now as it was 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.160 on camera, like, that's just where it doesn't sit well 0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:05.680 with us. 0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.000 But then if you look at Lea and Christy, there's 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.720 lots of times where you guys both have really strong 0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.720 friendships with them, it's fair to say that they've probably 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:18.280 been the most savaged online. Has your impression and has 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.080 your whole experience with working with those two women been 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.600 tainted by reading about what's happened online? I mean, maybe 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.320 you've watched what's happened on the show and you had 0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:29.600 no idea what kind of behavior was going on, So 0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:33.719 that kind of explains that there wasn't as much animosity 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:37.560 while filming as to what the reaction is now where 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.920 there is that negativity about the two of them, you know. 0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.760 Yeah, do you know what Leah and Ash we had 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:47.320 such a great relationship coming on and I Ash I 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.720 connected with really strongly, like his sense of humor is 0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.320 so funny. And we don't have a problem with them, 0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.200 to be honest, like we feel like they got sucked 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.760 into a bit of a mean girl vortex and then 0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.479 when they realize, hey, we've got kids or not that 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.440 was I do still stand by the fact that they 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.400 believed that, like morally and ethically it wasn't great how 0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.200 it was impacting people, but also hey, maybe they were 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.640 worried about how they'd be seen amongst mums and you know, 0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.360 their business community. I don't know, but I always just 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:21.239 felt real around Lea and Ashen, whilst Leah sometimes you know, 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:25.000 could come across rude and maybe patronizing to some trades 0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.839 and things like that. I actually respect that she just 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.600 said it how it She was direct, and I think 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.399 as a whole, and maybe I'm naive, I think every 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:37.360 other cast member, bar Christian Brett, we saw realness for sure. 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:39.400 When the cameras turned. 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.720 Off, maybe people were a little bit more vulnerable because 0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.360 that was you know, certain things they didn't want to 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.160 share with the whole world, and maybe there's game playing 0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.600 here and there, but we just felt, we feel coming 0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.759 off bar Christian Brett, that all of our experiences with 0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.480 everyone were totally real. 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.320 With jumping in there, I was going to say, regardless 0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.919 as to whether or not it's it was totally real. 0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:00.600 Yeah. 0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.600 What about what's happening now? I mean, yes, are the 0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.359 comments fair about these people, regardless as to what they 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.640 did or whether they thought they were being on Survivor 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.880 or whatever it is the world that we're living in now, 0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.680 is that these people being savaged online? Do you feel 0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:19.280 a sense of responsibility to make sure that these people 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.520 are Okay? I don't know. I'm not there, and I 0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.800 don't know all of you, but I read the comments, 0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.440 and I'm reading the comments on this particular season, and 0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.480 it's outrageous, Like it's outrageous. I just want to know. 0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:33.040 I'm so passionate about it, and I think we've lost 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:37.239 I just think we've lost patients for villains, and I 0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.480 think mental health in this day and age, when there's 0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.239 so much hideousness in the world, people are really trying 0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.839 to prioritize it and suicide rates are through the roof, 0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.240 and as they've mentioned, I do mental health talks in school, 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.319 so I'm particularly sensitive about it. But do you know 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:53.920 what death threats and awful comments are just never justified? 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.560 And with Christian Brett, I just want to explain, like 0:35:56.920 --> 0:36:00.520 when we say that they upset people, I genuine don't 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.200 believe that they want to upset people, but I think 0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:07.200 maybe just the type of people they are, they don't 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:12.000 realize that their execution is unacceptable, and they also don't care. 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.959 So when they're saying something and they're snapping when people 0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:18.239 usually wouldn't snap, or when they're snapping at people who 0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.320 are just there to help them, they just don't realize. 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.600 They just live in a different world where they don't 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.000 understand that people are there to help them, they're not 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:26.480 out to get you. And I don't know whether that's 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.719 what they've experienced earlier in their lives. I don't know, 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.440 and I've really tried to understand it, and I'm not 0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:31.520 getting anywhere with it. 0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.040 But I've got to get you to see that like 0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:35.240 a lot of people. 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:38.320 Connect with them, and as I said, we saw those glimpses, 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:42.080 but what we've experienced off camera, regardless of what people 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.720 are saying and regardless of the disappointment we feel watching 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.480 back what they did, particularly to Steph like they just 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.319 tried to make a fool of her. They took it 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.560 too far, They took it further than the because we 0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:56.000 can appreciate the fun villain stuff they did, truly I 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.560 can laugh at it. It went too far. And what 0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:02.200 we're experiencing off camera is awful, the mind games that 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:06.799 are still going on, and they just the bitching and 0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.960 you know, trying to befriend certain people to then you know, 0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.600 and I'm talking about contestants trying to be befriend contestants 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.680 and then passing on that information that they've confided in 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.960 them to then play mind games with another and just 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.520 it makes us feel sick. And so for us, we 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.879 can only provide judgment on what we experience, what we're 0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:32.719 still seeing and hearing. So it's not that they deliberately 0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.560 want to be bad people, and they truly do connect 0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.080 with certain people, and people don't. Some people don't. I 0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:41.800 don't think you've seen that side of them, and that's fine, 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.920 and people will have positive comments, but when you experience 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.000 it and when you look at these people in your 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.319 face when you know, they snapped at me the other 0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.520 day and I was like, I'm so uncomfortable. 0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:53.080 I just wasn't raised like this. 0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:56.120 I just don't disrespect people like that and it's not okay. 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.200 And I now stand up for myself and it rattles 0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.799 them for sure, because people don't stand up to them. 0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:04.080 What about these letters, Because I mean, they were on 0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:07.040 the podcast and this hit the press. People were talking 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.560 about it that you had sent letters out to Crewe 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.040 on the last day of filming to apologize for some 0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.959 of your behavior. I did hear because I ran into 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.520 you at an event that you said that those letters 0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:23.640 were not apology letters, they were thank you letters? Was 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.480 there a bit of truth in both of that? Was 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.880 a possible chance that they misread that situation because in 0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.360 these letters you might have said to some of the crew, 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:35.799 sorry that sometimes we could be you know, I don't know, 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.759 silly or tired. Is there a way of misreading that 0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.600 or is that just out and outlie. 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.879 There's no way of misreading it. It was a thank 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:46.120 you letter, for sure. 0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:51.799 We were embarrassed about our final backyard week. How we responded. 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.840 We look like terrible sports. We didn't go to the 0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.560 dinner with Scottie. We didn't understand that it was an 0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:59.239 official dinner. They said, if you want to come to 0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.359 the last a drink and. 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:02.839 Where We really wish we were there. 0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:07.279 So we were actually saying to people like where, And 0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:10.000 we even still say it now, like we're embarrassed about 0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:13.000 that behavior where we sort of look like brats and 0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.440 so overall we do. We're just giant mpats and the 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.360 thought of looking like brats or like not crew not 0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.640 like enjoying filming those parts of us when they're used 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.040 to us being lighthearted, and you know, at one point 0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:29.480 they were like, oh, guys, like it's awful seeing you 0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:29.759 like this. 0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:32.359 Like so there's that element for sure. 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.600 So if there was ever any apologies, it's like, oh, 0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:38.000 we're embarrassed if there was ever brat behavior. But I 0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.279 think what is most insulting for us is that the 0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.920 commentary that came out about it was that we wrote 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.520 apology letters to Crewe hand written. 0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:46.600 They weren't handwritten. 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:49.640 And we'll tell you what the facts are on this. 0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.319 We were discussing like a couple of weeks out, We're like, 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.719 this has been the most incredible life changing experience for us, 0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.600 what can we do for the crew and everything to 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.920 say thank you? And Eliza was like, let's write letters. 0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.080 So literally at midnight one night, when you know, in 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.320 the last week, when were absolutely cooked, Eliza wrote a letter, 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.160 went to office works, got them printed out, we got envelopes, 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.479 we packed them, and we handed them around to Crewe 0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.520 the next few days and the letter said, this has 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.799 been the most incredible life changing experience for us and 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.160 it's because of all of you. Thank you so much, 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:21.600 blah blah. And the crew were like overawed by how 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:23.520 you know, what a kind gesture that was and said 0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.759 this has never been done before. And so for the 0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.400 commentary to come out that these were apology leaders that 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:29.759 we gave the crew and we're the real villains and 0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:32.719 we're apologizing for our BS behavior and that now those 0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.360 letters aligning the Bingo bins like that is so insulting 0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.839 for us because that was something that we did out 0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.719 of pure kindness to the crew, and we got nothing 0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.200 but positive feedback, and people were like, the crew were 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:46.560 really yational about the fact that we've done that, because 0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:48.520 they were like, wow, we never in the history of 0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:52.000 nineteen seasons have people written us letters to say thank 0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.760 you for how we've contributed to their life changing experience. 0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:56.600 And that's where we saw it was. And that's where 0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.920 we struggle now with Christie and Brett. And you know, 0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:00.680 people are saying you just living in the edit and 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.720 responding to that. We're responding to them coming out saying 0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.759 things like that, that's mean, that's so mean, and just 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:11.000 because you don't understand how, in a huge inverted commas, 0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.840 how we played the game, which was be ourselves, be 0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:16.759 kind and respectful, just because you don't understand how that 0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:18.839 worked for us and you don't relate to that, like 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.239 leave us, please, please, please leave us alone so we 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.360 don't have to keep responding to your grand like you're. 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:26.120 The biggest cheaters. 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.239 That's where we're like, we don't have respect for you 0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.560 because you're lying the lies and we have to then 0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.680 respond and it's tiffit to and it's disgusting. 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:35.000 We shouldn't have to. 0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.720 Have a dig at us for you know, being goody 0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.480 two shoes because that's what they think and that's fair, 0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.880 but don't make up lies, especially for something as special 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:45.319 as that. 0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:46.880 It's so awful. 0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:50.680 But I just think, what about this though, because I'm 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.720 obsessed with the Block, I really am. I listened to everything. 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:57.799 If there's been a radio interview, I've downloaded it, I've 0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.280 listened to the podcast. I'm fucking wearing the T shirt. 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:05.360 Why go on radio though, and even entertain saying anything 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.239 bad about them? Why? I feel like there's tip for tat. 0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:11.200 Like I feel like you've now come to a place 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.040 where when you are on these shows, you're not talking 0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.799 about the Block, You're talking about them, and that's not 0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:18.200 really your brand. 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:20.560 Here's the thing when we're I. 0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:23.040 Mean, it's juicy and people are living for it, and 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.280 maybe that's a great way for you to guys to 0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.319 talk about you know what everyone's talking about. I just 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:31.719 worry whether or not that's your brand. No go tit 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:32.120 for tat. 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:35.279 Yeah, But like here's the thing. If we were just 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.600 going out there and just like saying stuff about them 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.319 with no you know that they're coming out and you know, 0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:43.799 essentially defamating our characters by saying we're cheats. Sorry to 0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:46.640 find our characters saying we're cheats, saying that you know 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.600 with that letter. Think so we are so passionate about 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.759 the people that we are and the characters that we 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:53.640 are and who we were on the show and the 0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:55.600 fact that we were ourselves. So when things like that 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.640 come out, we need to defend ourselves, like we're not 0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:00.720 just coming out for no reason and just like throwing 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.040 bubs at them, that's what they're doing to us. So 0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.440 for allegations to come out like that, we need to 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.799 defend ourselves and say the truth of it. And as 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.319 much as like, I'm very much you get more riled 0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.600 up than I do, but I'm very much the public 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.920 knows who they are. We're reading things on socials and 0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:21.359 we're like, everyone gets it. But when our characters are 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:24.640 brought to you know, you yet brought into question, that 0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:26.520 is when we do not stand for that, and we're 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:29.120 going to defend ourselves because that is not fair. But 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:31.240 I'm not proud. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not proud 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.040 of getting sucked into it all and being so over 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.040 like so passionate about it because as everyone says, it's 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.200 just a TV show, but I can't, I can't help 0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:43.560 it lives really seeing me struggle. We've had an incredible 0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:47.680 season and we're really proud of everything, but what's really 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.439 rattled me is watching everything back a and then being 0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.799 around these people that rattle me, challenge me, make me 0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:58.680 feel uncomfortable, and you say brand, right, we don't care 0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:02.120 about a brand. We don't have a brand when literally 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:05.399 our brand is being ourselves. And so I've always said 0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:07.359 when someone has said to me, when you've even said 0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.719 be careful, Eliza, like you're focusing on the gross negatives 0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.360 now when you're becoming as bad as them. And I'm like, 0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.600 I don't care about fan followers, fame, or fortune, and 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.000 I truly don't take it all away from me because 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.000 if this is about if I have to toe a 0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.359 party line and be someone in say crap that that's 0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:25.759 not me, I'm not here for it. 0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:28.120 I have to stand up with what I see. 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:31.319 Is I sound like I don't care and that I'm not. No, 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:35.600 you are just me, But my attitude is a lot 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.040 of the time I'd rather not give my energy to them. 0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:41.600 And I don't like seeing you get so consumed with it, 0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:43.680 because you know you struggle with mental health in the path. 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.399 I know that you can. You're getting all consumed by 0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:48.040 things can affect your mental health, and that's what I 0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.319 don't want to see of you. And that's why I 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.760 tried and say to you, just let it go focus 0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:53.880 on ourselves. And I know that that's difficult for you, 0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:56.040 but that's not me caring less or being less passionate 0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:59.440 about it. That's just us having dealing with things. 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:00.799 And you do have to diferent feelings. But you know 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:04.120 what CHRISTI said yesterday on the radio on fefefevn Nick 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.279 I think it is, was like, oh, they're hanging off 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.880 our storylines, you know, to talk about this sort of 0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.040 stuff on radio. And I thought to myself, that must 0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:15.040 really have hurt to hear that, because that isn't what 0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:18.200 you wanted to do. And the girls that I met 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:20.719 when I got to be lucky enough to visit the 0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:23.480 set throughout a couple of visits throughout the season just 0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:25.720 didn't sound like you. You know, it just didn't. 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.960 You know. It brings out the worst in us for sure, 0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.719 and even you know what we even get as annoyed 0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:35.560 as like you know, Brett was saying yesterday on radio 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.480 that all the girls have said they'll need therapy if 0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:40.520 we make any money. That's not true. We said if 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:43.040 they win, we'll need therapy. That's still not a nice 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.480 thing to say, for sure, I'll own that, but I'm 0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:48.400 we're very much will meet. Particularly I'm black and white justice, 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.000 you know, I want to see everything work out with 0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:54.000 the world, and I believe in karma and good things 0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.200 happening to good people and I never want anything bad 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:56.839 to happen to anyone. 0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:58.920 But the world doesn't work like that. And this more 0:45:58.960 --> 0:45:59.279 than ever. 0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:01.800 I live a shelter life because I choose to mostly 0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:05.000 stay in my house. But this has been a life 0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:07.279 lesson for me and they have taught me something. And 0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:09.600 Brett has even said to me, like Eliza, you've just 0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.239 got to accept you don't understand us, and you've got 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.959 to be okay with that. And I struggle so much 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.080 with that. And I have to make sense of things, 0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:18.600 and I have to respond to things, and I have 0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:23.520 to explain the truth and get justice, and sometimes that's 0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:27.200 bleeding into like tit for tat and do you know 0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.360 where those comments come from? So that whole like we 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.400 need therapy about, like again it's tongue in cheek, but 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.480 also the mental health spaces we're very passionate about. So 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:39.200 when we're chatting to parents and parents are saying this 0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.279 has been like our kids watch the show and it's 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:44.520 been really difficult for us to try and explain the 0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:48.080 behavior that's going on. So we sit there and we think, God, 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.920 how does someone explain to their kids this behavior and 0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.040 that it's okay? And so where we come from in 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.680 the you know, we need therapy. If they win, it's 0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:59.799 like we just feel people watching this. If they then 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.480 out in one and they've behaved the way that they have, 0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:05.440 it's sort of going, oh, so you can behave like 0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:08.040 a terror beverward and be rewarded for that. 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:09.480 I just want to jump in there and say to 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:11.880 the two of you, though, that's real world, do you 0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:13.680 know what I mean? Like that is stuff that you 0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:15.600 need to teach your children, because at the end of 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.880 the day, we cannot teach the next generation that just 0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:21.080 by being nice means that everything's going to be fine 0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:21.440 for you. 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.120 Yeah, that's what I'm struggling with. 0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:27.239 In the real world. Not villains, although we characterize that 0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:29.920 when we talk about reality television. But when people who 0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:32.560 do bad things, we like to think that they'll be 0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:34.880 made accountable for, but in the real world they don't. 0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:37.399 I don't think that I'm not going to spend any 0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.719 time of my life with anyone that's done the wrong 0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:42.840 thing by me getting upset because they win something, you know, 0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.160 or they're doing well in life. I just think to myself, 0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:49.120 you know, that's your thing, and you know, maybe you'll 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.040 get Calma one day or maybe you won't. But that's 0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:53.120 real life, you know what I mean. 0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:56.600 That's something I'm having to learn. It's a life. Like 0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:58.200 I say, my life sheltered. 0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.439 I've been through like a few awful things my life, 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.440 but also I am sheltered in another aspect of my 0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:06.480 life in terms of like you know, supportive family and 0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.919 blah blah blah. And but you're right, it doesn't work 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:13.520 like that. But this has been good for me to experience. 0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:15.000 But in the real world, I get to if I 0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:18.319 don't like Christianbra, I don't see Christianbra again. So to 0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:20.719 be constantly put in the same room as them, it's 0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.680 like a tritter. And so it is really hard for me. 0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.000 And yes it is. I need to see because we 0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:28.239 were not perfect and I'm still not perfect. And I 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:31.239 each each before each interview, like you know, everyone says 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:34.440 to me, Eliza, try and focus on your positive experience, 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:37.080 and then the minute something fires me up, I jump 0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:38.520 on it and it's I'm. 0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:41.680 Asking you the question. So like, yeah, yeah, you like 0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:44.319 just being able to talk about your truth. And I 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.040 appreciate that. And I know that this you know, we've 0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:49.759 stuck on this point for a little bit, and I 0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:53.680 just think it's allowing a broader conversation. I remember my 0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.920 best friend said to me when we're in our twenties. 0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:58.239 She was like, you know, why did that person do 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:00.480 that to me? I'd never do that to someone. Yes, 0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:02.960 And I said, this is one of the hardest lessons 0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:05.560 that you have had to learn. And I feel like 0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.160 we have to relearn it all the time. And we 0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.160 shouldn't change who we are and the way we are 0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:13.120 towards other people. That is just who we are. And 0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.480 if people do the wrong thing back to us, that 0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:16.160 is on them. 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.319 Yes, we can't. We can't. We can only control what 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.399 we do. We can't control what others do and how 0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.360 they react. Like we can only control how we react. 0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:28.200 We can't control what others do. And that's been a. 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:31.360 Hard lesson for me A thousand percent. Where I'm also 0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:34.399 proud of us is in those same conversations when parents 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.879 are saying how they're having to explain you know, that 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.320 sort of behavior, the me and girl's behavior to their kids. 0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:41.640 In the next breath, they're then saying, but thank you 0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:44.760 girls so much for standing up to us and showing 0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:46.799 that you know, you can stand up to us, and 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:50.200 that behavior doesn't get you that far or you know, 0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:52.960 people do stand up to that, and by because we 0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.279 came on just with the you know, working hard and 0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:58.200 not giving up can lead you to success, and that 0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:01.759 has because we've won three rooms, we have great relations 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.759 amazing positive feedback. We've come out of it with great relationships. 0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:06.799 So what we want to, you know, tell those kids 0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.160 is that, yeah, you don't have to behave poorly and 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:11.560 put on a villainous character or anything to get far. 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:14.600 You can be yourselves like we have and you can 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:17.880 get further and be successful and have amazing relationships and 0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:21.279 get great feedback and that behavior will be stood up too, 0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:23.720 and so it's amazing for us, Like that's the greatest 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:25.879 feedback that we can possibly get is from parents coming 0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:27.880 up to us saying thank you so much. Number one, 0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:29.600 your parents must be so proud of you and the 0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:32.800 characters you are. But number two, thank you for allowing 0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:34.520 us to then be able to explain to our kids, 0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:36.799 you can stand up to these people or you know 0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:39.000 you can. Yeah, you've gone to show you that. 0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:41.080 I think it's to ignore it, you know, that's the Yeah, 0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:43.239 these are some of the lessons that I guess. You know, 0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:45.080 you know, you just got to ignore it, you know 0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:47.319 what I mean. If you don't like someone's behavior, you know, 0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:49.080 I don't think you do need to call it out. 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.680 You know, I think that sometimes I've had to learn this. 0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:53.840 Now I'm forty three, i'd fucking old, and I'm like, 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:56.360 you know, when now, when I see someone behaving a 0:50:56.400 --> 0:51:00.239 certain way, the old me inside is like, no, you know, 0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:02.359 I want to tell them that they're doing the wrong thing. 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:04.600 And now I'm like, I just don't know how far that's. 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:08.560 Right, and really in an ideal world, yes, And like 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:10.319 I think, if you if I ever did it again, 0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:12.520 if I know now what, if I knew then what 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:14.839 I know now, I think I would try and stay 0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:16.319 out of it more. And I know, like Christy's even 0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.719 said the other day, you know, I love it when 0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:22.040 my name is in people's mouth and they love firing 0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:24.560 us up. We're giving them exactly what they want for me. 0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.520 When it goes to the cheating and stuff, I have 0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.839 to speak. But you're right and the world doesn't work 0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:32.480 out how it sometimes probably should. But I also think 0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:34.200 it was important for you to stand up on the 0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:36.720 show to that when it got your business. I stand 0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:39.319 by that completely. Oh kitchen week, when I called out 0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:40.759 what I was seeing, and you know, there was like, oh, 0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:43.759 Elivesa's a new character. I'm so not like I like 0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:45.400 to think that I'm quite nice and go with the 0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:47.759 flow in Switzerland, but if something upsets me and I 0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:49.920 need to stand up for something bigger or my days, 0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:51.160 am I going in? 0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:54.600 You know though, it's funny because there's some selection process 0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:57.000 that goes with you know, when you're making a reality show, 0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:00.160 you kind of turn people into certain character types. And 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:02.680 you guys are the fan favorites, are very very popular. 0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:05.799 But there has been decisions made along the way. I mean, 0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:08.440 was it true that you guys, when you saw all 0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:11.520 the builders in House one's house, that you actually went 0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:14.239 over and asked them about their budget and what was 0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:16.799 going on there before Lea and Ash? Is that is 0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:17.640 that a true story? 0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:20.479 Oh? This is a tough one because I don't want 0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:23.040 to I don't want to play this tip for that game, 0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:28.560 but that landscape a week Leah spoke to us Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. 0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:31.200 Each day she said this is going on. Have you 0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:34.360 seen today? Are you aware of it? We love Kylon Leslie, 0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:37.080 and we really just wanted to stick in our own lane, 0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:39.719 to be honest, and so every time Leah would come 0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:41.840 to us, we would be like, Lee, if you have 0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:44.719 a problem, go to them and go now, because if 0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:48.040 you call for an audit and there's any discrepancies there. 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:50.880 And they owe money, oh man, that's awful. 0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:54.160 Like catch, like get it in before there's any money 0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:56.560 paid out so that they can correct anything. We just 0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:59.200 didn't care about what was happening there. We didn't care 0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:01.480 about what yard Brett did. Well I didn't either, Like, 0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:03.239 we just did our own thing and as long as 0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:05.200 we could do what we wanted to do, that was fine. 0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:09.520 So when Lea's coming out saying oh there was bitching, 0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:11.239 everyone had a problem with it, and I was the 0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:12.840 only one that spoke up, and I nipped it in 0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:16.080 the button. And it's like, Bro, you moaned about it 0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.600 and you didn't go to them until like you didn't 0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:22.440 have that proper conversation until Thursday. By Thursday, we literally 0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:24.839 would like to hurt Leah and I not speak up 0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:27.319 to us about this one more time. If you don't 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:29.279 go and speak to her, we don't want to hear 0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:29.839 about it again. 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.000 But had you already spoken to them? Didn't you already 0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:32.160 have it? 0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:34.520 But we spoke to Kyland les were like, are you 0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:37.000 aware that there's this narrative? 0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:39.840 Get your books in order because there may be an audit. 0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:41.760 And we stand by. 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.920 The fact that that like Kylon Leslie did everything that 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:44.640 they were supposed to. 0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.040 I mean, what can you do when your landscape are 0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:49.200 saying this adds up, here's the receipts. What are you 0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:50.440 supposed to do? Kind of thing? 0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:53.640 So they what people didn't see as well is Kylon Leslie, 0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:54.440 My god they were. 0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:56.800 She was crying to us multiple times. 0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:59.279 A day like such. They had a prappy run, like 0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:02.279 you saw how we reacted after one bad week of 0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:03.360 feedback with our backyard. 0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:05.880 They were getting that every week and they were stowing. 0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:09.719 And undeserving because their rooms and everything were incredible, and 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:12.040 truly we thought that all their feedback was undeserving, like 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:13.920 they're all weeks that we won that. We were like, 0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:15.000 they should have beat us. 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:17.640 Yeah, I feel like do you know what my theory is? 0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:20.080 And I'm now going to sound like how very Christian 0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:23.799 Brettweil what my conspiracy theory had on. But I feel like, 0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:27.160 because Kyle and Leslie as people and I've met them, 0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:31.160 I've had them on the podcast, they're not in your face, 0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:33.640 you know, they're not the funny people, and they're not 0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:36.920 the nasty people. They're just just your average normal people, 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:38.560 you know what I mean. I feel like they low 0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:41.880 scored them to try and rather to get more content 0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:43.359 out of them. That's my conspiracy. 0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:45.359 And we were so naive through the show. 0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:49.120 We never no one ever had questions with us, like 0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:51.560 question us like guys, you're not giving us what you 0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:53.520 said you would or anything, which is like you hear 0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:56.920 murmurs of like that being said to other couples, and 0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.160 we just so we just were like to do this 0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:01.799 is all us and it's all them and Ladi Dare 0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:04.279 and but then watching it back, we're like, oh, us 0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:06.520 coming equal with Christian Bretton. We had to go away 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:09.839 with them that that doesn't seem overly like that's e's 0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:12.560 a squit rig But again we were like we couldn't 0:55:12.600 --> 0:55:15.120 read into it, otherwise we'd lose our minds. I think 0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:19.279 Colin Leslie. 0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:20.279 I'm just laughing because when they made you go away 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:23.399 on that weekend together, I mean, you know, I mean, 0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:25.919 no one should drink well, no one should have conversations 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:28.279 with people they're not going along with with wine. And 0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:30.359 I could just read between the lines. I could see 0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:32.760 all of you. I reckon you might have been on glass. Three. 0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:34.680 You look like you're on glass. 0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:37.600 We wanted us to keep having conversations Scotty, we just 0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:39.239 got it, and we just wouldn't because we just wanted. 0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:42.279 We knew that Christian Brett didn't want to apologize. We knew, 0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:43.480 so we're like, don't force it. 0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:45.920 If you don't want to apologize, don't And then you know, also, 0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:48.360 just to clear up, there was no ulterior motive. We 0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:50.759 never said to Leah like don't be friends with them again. 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:52.840 We actually said, and she'll stand by this. We actually 0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:54.920 said he would be a shame because I genuinely believe 0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:57.080 there was a friend get there between between them. And 0:55:57.239 --> 0:55:59.080 I never had a conversation with Lea about if you 0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:00.440 want a TV career or whatever. 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:02.480 I literally said to her, are you aware this stuff's 0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:02.879 going on? 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:04.839 Like just want to bring it to your attention because 0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:06.880 you might not know you're in the circle and not 0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:07.279 seeing it. 0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:08.160 That was the end of it. 0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:12.400 But yeah, in terms of Kyle and Leslie Luck, I think, yeah, 0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:12.759 you know. 0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:15.720 We're aware it was a TV show first, building. 0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:17.759 Second, I think sometimes we did too much building and 0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:18.839 they weren't happy with us. 0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:19.680 Klein Leslie. 0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:22.239 I think they saw it as building too, and so 0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:24.600 I feel like the show needed them because there was 0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:28.160 so much crap going on as everyone's seen, it needed 0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.000 a nice, lovely, normal. 0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:35.879 Couple, although Leslie. When Leslie decided to finally buy into 0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.399 the drama, the only thing I could take you to 0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:42.040 to task over really was I couldn't understand because with 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:45.520 the whole selling of the gnome, I felt like someone 0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:48.680 should have told House too. I feel like someone needed 0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:50.880 to go and tell And so there was this scene 0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:53.720 this week it actually felt like you girls weren't yourself, 0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:55.799 Like I felt like there was people pretending to be 0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.680 you because you guys were kind of laughing that they 0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:02.040 didn't know. And I was like, Lip and Eliza are 0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:03.799 the type of girls that are going to go over 0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:06.480 to Leah and say this is what's going down and 0:57:06.520 --> 0:57:07.680 you wouldn't be laughing about it. 0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:12.360 Yeah, So we and in hindsight, I agree with you, 0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:16.480 I say, and we flagged. We just do you know 0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:19.280 what naively, maybe we just didn't feel like it was 0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:23.720 our position. It involved our two best friend couples, so 0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:26.920 we felt like if we stepped over the line, that 0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:30.680 we're betraying them. But then also I said, and I 0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:33.439 said a number of times, I was like, and one 0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:35.320 of it made it to air, but it did look 0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:36.640 like we were sort of laughing. It was like, you 0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:38.120 guys need to be aware. This is going to feel 0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:41.479 very personal. But they as well were like, why can't 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:42.640 we just sell annoyman and do it? 0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:43.280 And they didn't. 0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:45.560 You know, you don't want to give that information because 0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:46.960 it becomes power. 0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:49.120 And then it's more mind games. I don't know. It 0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:51.840 was just like, let's just where things went awry. 0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:55.800 There was Leslie telling us, and Leslie telling especially Christian Breadth. 0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:57.840 It shouldn't have been told to any of us because 0:57:57.880 --> 0:57:59.000 that's when it felt so personal. 0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:00.800 That's what we were like, rather not know about this, 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:02.880 we said that and multiple times, or like we just 0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:05.080 didn't know about this, it's none of our business. We 0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:07.760 didn't want to betray our friends. But yes, in hindsight, 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.360 like it was awful that Leara and Ash didn't know, 0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:11.440 and we were. 0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:13.640 Like, like, it's all gone three sixty though, like in 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:16.040 this final week of the show, it's like everyone's now 0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:18.640 been shown to be my God at some point. Like 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:20.840 Steph this week. We kind of saw it in the 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:22.560 first two weeks that she was a bit hard to 0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:25.720 read and maybe being a bit hard to reach. She's yeah, totally, 0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:28.040 you know, and then now in this last week she's 0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:31.720 a savage some of the stuff. Think, I'm like, but 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:36.160 don't you think it has to do with stack the tensions, stack, 0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:39.200 the situations build the pressure. By the time you get 0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:44.120 to the last week, it's normal behavior for good people. Yeah, 0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:46.200 to do bad things and that's okay. 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:49.680 And I feel bad for Colin Leslie because I feel 0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:51.560 like in this past two weeks they've come across as 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.439 it hasn't been great for them. At some point, when 0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:57.280 you get negative feedback after negative feedback, and you're always 0:58:57.280 --> 0:58:59.560 this neutral person, you're always like being okay with everything 0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:03.200 and beingitive and stuff, at some point you've got you bother. 0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:05.680 And they were being there for us as well. 0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:08.400 They were like so unbelievable for our mum and dad 0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:11.520 and amazing to us, and so I feel it breaks 0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:14.680 my heart a bit seeing them, you know, edited this way, 0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:18.360 because there's there. They are the most divine couple we've 0:59:18.400 --> 0:59:20.520 ever met. They've got the most beautiful family that I've 0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:24.120 never met, two more well behaved kids of their kids, yeah, 0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:26.520 ever in my life. So they're amazing. I feel bad 0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:28.560 for them that they've Yeah, this past two weeks is 0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:31.120 kind of it's crumbled down a little bit for them. 0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:33.920 Everyone's been shown like that, Like even when you Eliza 0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:36.320 were yelling at the builder and I was like, oh, 0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:39.760 this is just so weird, Like is this gremlin's week? 0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:41.840 I know, And I was like, I watching that back, 0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:43.960 and I was really worried about it as well, because 0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:47.920 I'm very much you know, saying be respectful to other people. 0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:50.479 And I just snapped there as well, and I could 0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:53.040 have dealt with that differently. But yeah, it's a combination 0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:55.920 of sleep deprivation and that week as well. I felt 0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:58.080 there are a few situations where I felt like I 0:59:58.120 --> 0:59:59.640 wasn't being taken seriously because I. 0:59:59.600 --> 0:59:59.960 Was a fiend. 1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:03.160 We had some guys come in and take insulation from 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:05.360 us without asking for a different house, and I was like. 1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:06.200 Excuse me, what are you doing? 1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:07.920 They wouldn't speak to me, and I was like, you 1:00:07.920 --> 1:00:09.960 wouldn't do that to Ash, and I even said that, 1:00:10.000 --> 1:00:12.160 and so I was like, I need to command respect here. 1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:15.120 I'm not being taken seriously. It was not good. I'll 1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:15.480 own that. 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:18.000 But you're right, you just come it boils. You are 1:00:18.080 --> 1:00:21.600 so sleep deprived, three months of essentially getting no sleep. 1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:24.200 You're so overwhelmed, you're so stressed, you're exhausted, You're ready 1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:25.880 to go home. You haven't seen your family, barried, you 1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:27.680 haven't seen your friends, You're not in normal life. You've 1:00:27.720 --> 1:00:30.000 put on six kilos. Like we just it's just a 1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:33.680 culmination of everything somewhat. We're all human. You're bound to 1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:37.320 like be you know, out of character. And where I started. 1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:39.040 Laughing because I look back at it then and now 1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:40.640 and even said it and I was like, oh my god, 1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:43.200 this is good TV. I couldn't believe what was happening. 1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:46.400 I was like, this is an incredible season, and like 1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:48.960 it's just happening as far as I was aware organically, 1:00:49.200 --> 1:00:50.880 and I was just like, I mean, the selling the 1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:52.560 gnome and then the fact that you know there's I 1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:55.320 was just like, how is this happening? What is going on. 1:00:55.480 --> 1:00:59.920 We're all capable of bad, shitty behavior, but there is 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:03.280 some real truth in the fact that we can't be 1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:05.840 too hard on ourselves because in the real world, you know, 1:01:05.920 --> 1:01:07.920 we do get tired, we do get stoppy, and we 1:01:07.960 --> 1:01:11.600 don't always face at the best level that we want to. Yeah, 1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:13.160 that's okay, and. 1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:16.000 It becomes this dog eat dog sort of and subconsciously 1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:18.200 you're in this little bubble and by the end you're like, 1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:20.800 you're the only people that exist, and so you just 1:01:20.920 --> 1:01:22.640 like and cameraman are there for you, and you're just 1:01:22.760 --> 1:01:25.840 like in this ulterior you're in the Truman Show a 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:28.520 little bit too. Yeah, it's like but it feels like 1:01:28.680 --> 1:01:31.840 it's you're in an ulterior universe, like it truly does. 1:01:31.880 --> 1:01:33.600 You're not in the real You're not in the world. 1:01:33.760 --> 1:01:35.000 It is in the real world, but it's not the 1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:37.120 real world. It very much is lib I think you're right. 1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:39.160 I mean, it is the Truman Show because there are 1:01:39.200 --> 1:01:42.080 some controlled elements and you will always question whether or 1:01:42.120 --> 1:01:45.200 not things happened because it was staged a little bit 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:47.680 for television. There's a show in the UK where they say, 1:01:47.880 --> 1:01:49.680 you know, not everything that you watch on this show 1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:52.280 is real. We have given it a bit of finesse. 1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:54.480 And that's kind of all shows, you know what I mean, 1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:56.840 Like there's always going to be think about all the 1:01:56.880 --> 1:01:58.800 crew and the cast and the producers work on that 1:01:58.840 --> 1:02:01.120 show to make that show what it is. There's always 1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:03.080 going to be a little bit, a little bit of magic. 1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:05.520 I mean, I was a bridesmaid on Married at First 1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:09.400 Sight for my friend, right, my friend remember and I 1:02:09.760 --> 1:02:12.800 that was different, So that was a different experience. They 1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:15.200 were like giving you drinks and they were putting words 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:16.960 in your mouth and they're asking the same thing a 1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:18.120 hundred times until. 1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:20.360 They get the answer that they want. That truly didn't. 1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:22.800 For sure, there's may on things, and you know, like yeah, 1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:25.480 for sure we were sent away deliberately on that weekend 1:02:25.520 --> 1:02:28.360 with Christian Red. But as a whole, I genuinely believe 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:31.120 it was like the honest like. 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:33.640 It's why it's still on television though, It's why it 1:02:33.680 --> 1:02:35.560 has twenty years, you know, like we're going to get 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:38.840 twentieth seasons. The twentieth season is next year. That is 1:02:39.160 --> 1:02:42.840 such an achievement and I and you know what, there's 1:02:42.840 --> 1:02:44.600 been lots of people saying that the block has had 1:02:44.600 --> 1:02:47.000 its time because of this series, because of all the drama. 1:02:47.280 --> 1:02:50.320 I just feel like this is a chapter in the story. 1:02:50.480 --> 1:02:53.400 You know, we haven't had this every year. This is 1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:57.280 the nature of this show. This is just this year's story. 1:02:57.320 --> 1:03:01.480 And we asked Lucky the casting direct his thoughts around casting, 1:03:02.480 --> 1:03:07.040 and he said he normally casts for sort of the location. Right. 1:03:07.120 --> 1:03:09.520 So last year, Gismond, it was very much about the 1:03:09.560 --> 1:03:12.600 strength in the couple and how they would banter together 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:15.120 because they were so far away from many other couples 1:03:15.320 --> 1:03:18.240 that they needed that strength in the couple, the charisma 1:03:18.280 --> 1:03:21.480 within the couple. Whereas for us, it was like Melroe's place, 1:03:21.600 --> 1:03:23.480 I think, which you've referred to as well, And it 1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:26.560 totally was that our backyards back onto each other. And 1:03:26.640 --> 1:03:28.840 we're a little bit younger, I mean, I'm thirty seven, however, 1:03:28.960 --> 1:03:31.880 want to interact. Yeah, and that banter And so next 1:03:31.920 --> 1:03:33.880 year it'd be interesting to see. I don't know really 1:03:33.920 --> 1:03:36.160 what the former is for next year, but like there'll 1:03:36.200 --> 1:03:39.640 be a whole nother you know, casting why they're casting 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:42.760 the people that they do, and people threatened to switch off, 1:03:42.880 --> 1:03:46.040 but they ain't. He's good and like, I don't know, 1:03:46.880 --> 1:03:50.120 numbers are up the drama is apparently the way forward. 1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:53.560 I've asked the last few, the last few houses that 1:03:53.560 --> 1:03:55.200 have come on the pod, I've asked them this question. 1:03:55.240 --> 1:03:56.760 I didn't ask at the start because I think it 1:03:56.760 --> 1:03:58.840 would be too hard. What are your thoughts on the auction? 1:03:59.400 --> 1:04:02.320 What is your order? Can you basically give me what 1:04:02.360 --> 1:04:04.280 you think the order of the houses are in terms 1:04:04.280 --> 1:04:05.760 of money that they're going to make. 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:08.080 I just think Stephan Jihn have this in the bag 1:04:08.120 --> 1:04:11.120 and they are just hustlers. Power to them, we love them, 1:04:11.480 --> 1:04:14.120 They've got it. I just think they'll be first and 1:04:14.360 --> 1:04:16.680 all guns blazing. I think everyone will want their house 1:04:16.840 --> 1:04:19.040 because they'll have a higher reserve. Like us, we've got 1:04:19.080 --> 1:04:21.280 bigger land sizes and things like that, but they've been 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:23.600 able to inject so much money into it. Then you've 1:04:23.600 --> 1:04:26.280 got I think, I don't know. Then I think reserves 1:04:26.280 --> 1:04:26.800 could be low. 1:04:27.240 --> 1:04:29.880 I don't know. I almost think maybe House one. 1:04:29.760 --> 1:04:32.840 Because so I would say, so we've got House four 1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:35.320 and then you're like House one. 1:04:35.760 --> 1:04:37.520 It could be do you know what I'm going to 1:04:37.560 --> 1:04:40.120 back us? It could be someone like how's one. 1:04:40.040 --> 1:04:41.680 That's going to have a lower reserve. Ere it could 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:44.960 be us who we know people might go for after 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:47.320 Stephan Jarhm's house. It's the same, like we've got a 1:04:47.320 --> 1:04:50.160 beautiful open floor plan which is receiving really good feedback 1:04:50.160 --> 1:04:53.520 in the family vibe of it. So one or us, 1:04:53.600 --> 1:04:56.360 but then but then also there's two or three three, 1:04:56.360 --> 1:04:56.920 it could be on. 1:04:56.880 --> 1:04:58.440 The same level. I think they'll win money. 1:04:58.960 --> 1:05:01.280 But then also I from what I understand, they've got 1:05:01.360 --> 1:05:05.200 less interest, but who knows, and they have lower reserves, 1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:07.080 so to be honest, the only thing I'm clear on 1:05:07.240 --> 1:05:09.600 is house for taking it out and taking it out hard. 1:05:10.040 --> 1:05:11.840 I think if anyone watches Sir Sean, what they need 1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:14.760 to learn. That was very clever from Stephan gre was 1:05:14.800 --> 1:05:18.200 the Japanzee theme. Yeah, you know, something so simple but 1:05:18.280 --> 1:05:22.480 so clever that it pulled a story together for the house. 1:05:22.760 --> 1:05:23.280 You know what I mean? 1:05:23.360 --> 1:05:26.280 They are they are twenty seven years old, and my god, 1:05:26.360 --> 1:05:28.800 are they smart and switched on and they have got 1:05:28.800 --> 1:05:31.440 their gear together and their game players for sure, but 1:05:31.560 --> 1:05:33.760 they I think they own it and they stuck in 1:05:33.760 --> 1:05:36.760 their own lane. And we love them so much, and 1:05:36.960 --> 1:05:39.439 I just that's and they I know, Christin and Brett 1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:41.680 don't think our relationship there will last, but we've got 1:05:41.720 --> 1:05:44.280 life long friends. We've made plans for next year. And 1:05:44.320 --> 1:05:46.520 it's a weird relationship because they're ten years younger than us, 1:05:46.560 --> 1:05:48.360 but we have so much respect and they've taught us 1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:49.720 stuff vice versa, and. 1:05:49.960 --> 1:05:52.280 Yeah, we're I'd be hanging out with them if I 1:05:52.400 --> 1:05:55.320 was you thinking they were my parents, Like, yeah, you 1:05:55.320 --> 1:05:56.240 know what I mean? They do. 1:05:56.400 --> 1:05:58.320 And every time I get fired up in an interview, 1:05:58.320 --> 1:06:00.480 they're like, Olaza, you know, try and don't get too 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:01.120 caught up in that. 1:06:01.160 --> 1:06:03.640 And I'm like, thanks, mom, I think that that Jean 1:06:03.800 --> 1:06:06.320 isn't Jan like one of the most loveliest. 1:06:06.640 --> 1:06:09.320 He's everyone's favorite. 1:06:08.520 --> 1:06:12.080 We go that where the three wives, Steph, Eliza and 1:06:12.120 --> 1:06:14.520 I his three wives. We just ador him so much, 1:06:14.720 --> 1:06:15.840 does want to be around him. 1:06:15.840 --> 1:06:18.480 That's a show in itself. Anyway, before you go, what 1:06:18.600 --> 1:06:20.840 is something from behind the scenes, something that we as 1:06:20.840 --> 1:06:23.400 an audience won't see, kind of like a behind the 1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:27.160 scenes like secret or just maybe a funny anecdote that 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:28.880 happened while you're making this show. 1:06:28.960 --> 1:06:31.120 Libs cist, she's got her head, Sist. 1:06:31.280 --> 1:06:34.040 I'm so sad this didn't make the show. 1:06:34.400 --> 1:06:36.440 So Lib's got all these bumps, what are they? 1:06:36.520 --> 1:06:36.960 Oh my god? 1:06:37.040 --> 1:06:38.840 So I've just got a couple of like, little. 1:06:38.880 --> 1:06:40.640 Do we need to ask if this if the cysts 1:06:40.680 --> 1:06:42.280 are okay with being a part of this story. 1:06:42.320 --> 1:06:44.080 They are, They're fine. I don't know it was I 1:06:44.080 --> 1:06:45.640 thought it was going to make part of the show 1:06:45.680 --> 1:06:47.520 as a story. But I've got these little cists that 1:06:47.520 --> 1:06:49.560 are like horns on my head and then nothing, I've 1:06:49.560 --> 1:06:51.800 had them checked before anyone, you know, jumps up and 1:06:51.800 --> 1:06:54.880 says that, you know, cancerous or something. They're fine, But 1:06:55.000 --> 1:06:57.720 on the show one of them burst and it got 1:06:57.760 --> 1:07:00.240 infected because of all the dirt and crap everywhere. So 1:07:00.320 --> 1:07:02.360 it was like pussing an Each. 1:07:02.200 --> 1:07:05.160 Day it would be a new scene, a new murder scene. 1:07:04.920 --> 1:07:07.880 So new people would come in and have a look, 1:07:07.920 --> 1:07:10.000 and like it would be our dad's a diet and 1:07:10.040 --> 1:07:12.200 he looked at it. Dad came for a visit and 1:07:12.240 --> 1:07:13.760 he was looking at it, and truly it was this 1:07:13.800 --> 1:07:15.600 whole storyline and we're like, we cannot wait to see 1:07:15.640 --> 1:07:17.240 this player on TV. And then none of it's been 1:07:17.280 --> 1:07:19.360 But then the last little bit of that it scabbed, 1:07:19.360 --> 1:07:21.760 and Limbs took the scab off and put it on 1:07:21.800 --> 1:07:24.160 the bench, and I one day thought it was a rock, 1:07:24.240 --> 1:07:26.160 and so I was like picked, I was brushing my teeth, 1:07:26.160 --> 1:07:27.880 picked it up and I had put it in the 1:07:27.880 --> 1:07:30.240 bin or whatever, and then I was eating and stuff 1:07:30.520 --> 1:07:33.520 and then sorry if you're gagging everyone but that, and. 1:07:33.480 --> 1:07:35.479 I was like, who's listening to this right now? Has 1:07:35.560 --> 1:07:37.520 just literally over the car? 1:07:37.640 --> 1:07:40.000 And how did you work single before? We certainly be 1:07:40.200 --> 1:07:40.800 around now. 1:07:41.600 --> 1:07:43.000 Yeah, I want to catch up with you in a 1:07:43.040 --> 1:07:45.040 year's time to find out whether either of you have 1:07:45.080 --> 1:07:47.040 married a fan. I think it feel like it could. 1:07:46.960 --> 1:07:49.600 Happen, you know, beggars can't be choosers at this point. 1:07:49.600 --> 1:07:54.240 To be honest, girls, thank you both so much for 1:07:54.520 --> 1:07:57.560 your Canada. I think we got to unpack some stuff 1:07:57.560 --> 1:07:59.480 there that might have been really hard for you to 1:07:59.640 --> 1:08:03.919 sort of get into. But I appreciated your honesty, and 1:08:04.480 --> 1:08:06.680 you know, I think it's very clear when people will 1:08:06.720 --> 1:08:09.320 be listening back to this how they feel about the 1:08:09.360 --> 1:08:13.160 two of you. And sometimes when shows are on television 1:08:13.160 --> 1:08:16.320 there's a lot left out for people to interpret, where 1:08:16.840 --> 1:08:19.040 I hope having some of these sorts of conversations and 1:08:19.080 --> 1:08:21.720 people being able to listen into long form gives some 1:08:21.840 --> 1:08:23.200 better context. 1:08:22.760 --> 1:08:25.040 You know, yeah, and everyone deserves that, I reckon like 1:08:25.080 --> 1:08:27.400 the context that's sometimes hard. I think as a whole 1:08:27.600 --> 1:08:31.920 captured everyone's characters, but sometimes yeah, context, context was lacking 1:08:31.920 --> 1:08:34.720 a little. But yeah, wow, we drama still going on. 1:08:34.760 --> 1:08:36.559 It's going to be interesting. Options is going to be interesting. 1:08:36.880 --> 1:08:38.679 But yeah, well this series of the block that there 1:08:38.680 --> 1:08:42.800 needs to be like a like an Andy Cohen reunion, specially. 1:08:42.560 --> 1:08:47.320 Oh my house, I wouldn't that be in Maybe you're 1:08:47.400 --> 1:08:47.920 hosting it. 1:08:47.960 --> 1:08:50.200 Then you are so good hosting that. 1:08:50.960 --> 1:08:53.800 Yeah, thank you both so much. I'm great enjoy the 1:08:53.800 --> 1:08:55.120 rest of the series as well. 1:08:55.160 --> 1:08:58.479 Thank you for being asking the hard questions and allowing 1:08:58.560 --> 1:09:02.200 yeah I really actually yeah, okay. 1:09:01.880 --> 1:09:03.920 Well look after yourselves, and I hope you've been lots 1:09:03.920 --> 1:09:07.600 of money. Thank you by your cheeseburgerphone, by everyone. 1:09:08.720 --> 1:09:09.760 I'll buy your whole meal.