1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,719
Speaker 1: And we're going to head beyond the Bearamer line now

2
00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,680
Speaker 1: and down to Catherine, where there are reports that parents

3
00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,440
Speaker 1: have taken aim at the Education Department over critical teacher

4
00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,400
Speaker 1: shortages at a public primary school in Catherine South. Now,

5
00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,360
Speaker 1: the ABC is reporting that at least three star from

6
00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,120
Speaker 1: the department, two of which former principles, have been deployed

7
00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,720
Speaker 1: to the school to help fill the shortage in the

8
00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,360
Speaker 1: short term. The COLP member for Catherine, Joe Hersey, joins

9
00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,040
Speaker 1: me on the line right now. Good morning to you, Joe.

10
00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,559
Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners, and happy yearbe mer

11
00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:35,040
Speaker 2: to you.

12
00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,800
Speaker 1: Thanks Joe. Good to have you back on the show

13
00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,680
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four. Now, before I get into what's

14
00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,239
Speaker 1: happening in Catherine and some of the good stuff and

15
00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,440
Speaker 1: all the you know, all the various things that are

16
00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,400
Speaker 1: happening in Catherine, I do want to focus on education

17
00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:54,120
Speaker 1: and you are indeed the oppositions will shadow spokesperson for Education.

18
00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,600
Speaker 1: It's understood there's a number of vacant positions still being

19
00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,120
Speaker 1: advertised online, but the departments told the ABC that there

20
00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,240
Speaker 1: are no remaining vacancies. Now we're talking about this report

21
00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,000
Speaker 1: that there's at least three staff from the department, two

22
00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,880
Speaker 1: of which are former principals having to be deployed to

23
00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,560
Speaker 1: the school to help fill a shortage.

24
00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,839
Speaker 3: Joe, what are you hearing on the ground, Katie.

25
00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,120
Speaker 2: Last year a new principal came in at the end

26
00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,520
Speaker 2: of the year, and I have heard those reports of

27
00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,720
Speaker 2: six teacher vacancies still ongoing. Last year, Catherine South had

28
00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,560
Speaker 2: I think three principles for the year. Some of the

29
00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,320
Speaker 2: kids that I aspect two were saying they had four teachers.

30
00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,960
Speaker 2: Just in the last term. There was, you know, some

31
00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,160
Speaker 2: concerns around teachers leaving, and just a couple of weeks

32
00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,240
Speaker 2: ago I spoke to the principal and they were seven

33
00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,080
Speaker 2: teachers down. But I have spoken to him just via email.

34
00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,280
Speaker 2: Symphony said, yes, there is a teacher in front of

35
00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,600
Speaker 2: every class, but I do know that some of them

36
00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,120
Speaker 2: are from the department, And you know, I think the

37
00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,919
Speaker 2: preschool teacher there is from the department, and she's there.

38
00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,880
Speaker 2: My understanding is for a couple of weeks, but she

39
00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,280
Speaker 2: is also willing to stay on for the term it

40
00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,400
Speaker 2: needs to be. But it just gets to a bigger

41
00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,440
Speaker 2: issue that you know, there needs to be well our priorities,

42
00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,160
Speaker 2: Sell priorities. You know, if we want to build a

43
00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,800
Speaker 2: best strong territory, we've got to focus on you know,

44
00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,639
Speaker 2: key issues to get kids to school, you know, increase literacy,

45
00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,640
Speaker 2: numeracy and attract teachers to Catherine or and not just

46
00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,239
Speaker 2: Catherine but other regions and remote But obviously we're talking

47
00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,520
Speaker 2: about Catherine today and it is a concern that you know,

48
00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,040
Speaker 2: potentially there's still six vacancies at the school.

49
00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,680
Speaker 3: Joe, what do you reckon?

50
00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,160
Speaker 1: The reason is you know that they're not able to

51
00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,880
Speaker 1: fill those vacancies. I mean, nationwide, we know that there

52
00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,320
Speaker 1: is a critical teacher shortage. It's been spoken about even

53
00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,440
Speaker 1: in places like New South Wales and you know, no

54
00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,399
Speaker 1: doubt it's having an impact on us here in the territory.

55
00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,200
Speaker 3: But is it more than that, Well.

56
00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,520
Speaker 2: Yes, obviously we do hear that Australia wide, there is

57
00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,040
Speaker 2: you know, an issue with teacher vacancies in Catherine and

58
00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,280
Speaker 2: in the territory. I know that crime and anti social

59
00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,919
Speaker 2: behavior is an issue concerning teachers. Teacher housing is an

60
00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,680
Speaker 2: issue because you know, the rents are very expensive and

61
00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,120
Speaker 2: there has been you know, quite a few teachers that

62
00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,840
Speaker 2: have left. But there's a bigger story going on around

63
00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,760
Speaker 2: Casts South that I think the department are trying to

64
00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:38,600
Speaker 2: work with the school, you know, around the issues of staffing.

65
00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,400
Speaker 2: Many staff have moved to other schools around the around

66
00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,080
Speaker 2: the town. But you know, at the end of the day,

67
00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,520
Speaker 2: we do need to try and to track people to

68
00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,920
Speaker 2: our town and focus on keeping them safe and keeping

69
00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:55,400
Speaker 2: them house.

70
00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,280
Speaker 1: Joe, what is the biggest story when it comes to

71
00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,280
Speaker 1: to Catherine South?

72
00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,080
Speaker 3: Is it?

73
00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't like I'm certainly not wanting

74
00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,680
Speaker 1: to rag out one of the schools or anything like that,

75
00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,360
Speaker 1: but is it, like, what is the concern?

76
00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,200
Speaker 2: No, there's been. I mean, my children went to Catherine South.

77
00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,880
Speaker 2: I had a very long history with Catherine South, and

78
00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,560
Speaker 2: years ago it used to be a likehouse school. And

79
00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:22,160
Speaker 2: I think schools do go through cycles of you know,

80
00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,120
Speaker 2: when principles change over, maybe they have a bit of

81
00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,760
Speaker 2: a different style and potentially people move on because of that.

82
00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,120
Speaker 2: It has actually happened before in Katherine with a previous

83
00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,160
Speaker 2: principal years ago, and I think, you know, the department

84
00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,919
Speaker 2: needs to better support the school and work with the

85
00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:47,360
Speaker 2: principal in getting teachers to the school and having you know,

86
00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,039
Speaker 2: teachers that are just not filling teachers because obviously they've

87
00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,200
Speaker 2: left their role up here in Darwin to come to Catherine,

88
00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,080
Speaker 2: and like, so who's doing their role where their role

89
00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,360
Speaker 2: is to support the teachers in the region.

90
00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:02,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, good question.

91
00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,840
Speaker 2: So you're basically robbing Peter to pay Paul.

92
00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:05,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

93
00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,920
Speaker 1: Jo. Look, there has been what sounds as though it's

94
00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,920
Speaker 1: some good news this morning. I know that the government

95
00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,520
Speaker 1: sending out a release saying that Catherine High students are

96
00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,400
Speaker 1: set to benefit from a new science, Technology, Engineering, Arts

97
00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:24,120
Speaker 1: and Mathematics center ESTEEM Center, with the construction tender awarded today.

98
00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,159
Speaker 1: So it's this fifteen point four million dollar contract to

99
00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,960
Speaker 1: build that state of the art educational facility at Catherine

100
00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,080
Speaker 1: High School. Good news, but still in the early days.

101
00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,159
Speaker 2: I guess that is great news. And from the minute

102
00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,159
Speaker 2: I hit my grant, they hit the ground. As a candidate, Katie,

103
00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,200
Speaker 2: I've been advocating for the high school again because my

104
00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,160
Speaker 2: children went there and as a long term resident of Katherine,

105
00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,320
Speaker 2: we need to support not only the students but the

106
00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,359
Speaker 2: teachers in a state of the art building like I

107
00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,760
Speaker 2: see up here in Darwen, and it has been a

108
00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,679
Speaker 2: very long time coming. The infrastructure there is for years old.

109
00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,640
Speaker 2: It's interesting that that is now a fifteen million dollar project,

110
00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,880
Speaker 2: because I'm sure it started off as a nine million

111
00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,279
Speaker 2: dollar project three years ago.

112
00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,520
Speaker 3: A bit of a blowout, you reckon.

113
00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it was a blowout, and that was brought to

114
00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,039
Speaker 2: the attention last year in a meeting at school I

115
00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,000
Speaker 2: was at. Anyway, I welcome that and I look forward

116
00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,039
Speaker 2: to that being built. But I just hope that Catherine

117
00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,839
Speaker 2: High School does get the support it needs to drive

118
00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,320
Speaker 2: that infrastructure and get that happening pretty soon, because it's

119
00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,760
Speaker 2: been a very long time coming.

120
00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

121
00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:35,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

122
00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,320
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes sometimes the announcements get made and then

123
00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,440
Speaker 1: they sort of feel like they take forever to come

124
00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,440
Speaker 1: to fruition. So hopefully that all gets going pretty quickly. Now, Joe,

125
00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,599
Speaker 1: how have things been going in Catherine in terms of

126
00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,560
Speaker 1: have you guys been getting quite a bit of the

127
00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,560
Speaker 1: wet weather or has it been going.

128
00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,279
Speaker 2: Well the wet season. I did have a little breakover Christmas,

129
00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,919
Speaker 2: and I wasn't there for the massive storm over the

130
00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,040
Speaker 2: New Year period. But yesterday we had a beautiful day

131
00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,680
Speaker 2: of overcast and drizzly rain nearly all day, only a

132
00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,600
Speaker 2: little bit about eight mel overnight. Oh that's what we

133
00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:16,080
Speaker 2: had anyway, But yeah, it's been you know, the storms

134
00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,040
Speaker 2: have had trees down around the area and there's been

135
00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,040
Speaker 2: some cleaning up going on after that, but for the

136
00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,720
Speaker 2: whole it's you know, we've had the crime and anti

137
00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,760
Speaker 2: social behavior. My local United just had an incident with

138
00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,080
Speaker 2: an edge weapon yesterday morning. There are still you know,

139
00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,960
Speaker 2: crime and antisocial behaviors going on. I'm constantly writing to

140
00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,600
Speaker 2: the police minister, which if he's listening, can you just

141
00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,800
Speaker 2: answer my email or what have.

142
00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,040
Speaker 3: You written to him? What are you wanting to know?

143
00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,960
Speaker 2: Well, I want to know why the youth and Catherine

144
00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,200
Speaker 2: and I think this can go across the territory. There

145
00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,760
Speaker 2: is a very small amount of youth that are doing

146
00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,720
Speaker 2: the crime, but there are no consequences, Katie, and what

147
00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,560
Speaker 2: we need is to have the victims feel like they are,

148
00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,680
Speaker 2: you know, in front of the perpetrator, when the perpetrator

149
00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,680
Speaker 2: goes to court and just gets let out that is

150
00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,400
Speaker 2: not accessible. There does need to be a consequence, and

151
00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,720
Speaker 2: it just goes back to attracting the teachers to the

152
00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,440
Speaker 2: school and the doctors to the town, the health professionals.

153
00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,880
Speaker 2: You know, we can't attract these people if we don't

154
00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,520
Speaker 2: have a say, strong territory for them to actually.

155
00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,760
Speaker 1: Come to So on that Catherine service station situation that

156
00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,800
Speaker 1: happened earlier in the week, we did.

157
00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,440
Speaker 3: We reported on it yesterday.

158
00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,840
Speaker 1: Have you spoken to those operators or how are some

159
00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,520
Speaker 1: of those servo operators going in Catherine at the moment,

160
00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,079
Speaker 1: because you know, we again we focused on that a

161
00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,560
Speaker 1: little earlier in the week about different service stations in

162
00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,120
Speaker 1: Darwin being targeted.

163
00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,960
Speaker 3: How is it for you guys?

164
00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was listening to that Katie and my local

165
00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,680
Speaker 2: as I said, United, you know, it's just when it opened,

166
00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,120
Speaker 2: it was a very welcoming open service station. Now there's

167
00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,560
Speaker 2: you know, the person up everywhere. You can't get to

168
00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,080
Speaker 2: the people. I didn't. I just had a brief chat

169
00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,600
Speaker 2: with the guy when I fieled up yesterday. I didn't

170
00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,840
Speaker 2: there was people there. I didn't really have a long

171
00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,719
Speaker 2: conversation with him. But they are you know, it has

172
00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,840
Speaker 2: an effect on their staff and I know, for example

173
00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,040
Speaker 2: on the run where they have constantly been targeted by youth,

174
00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,319
Speaker 2: whether they're people in the you know that are just

175
00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,199
Speaker 2: customers trying to stop the youth steal things. I mean,

176
00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,760
Speaker 2: it's just a game for them. And what they don't

177
00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,920
Speaker 2: understand is the effect that it has on the mental

178
00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,520
Speaker 2: health of the staff that are going to work on

179
00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,079
Speaker 2: a daily basis, and it is absolutely not accepting.

180
00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,520
Speaker 3: It's shocking. It's absolutely shocking.

181
00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,280
Speaker 1: You know, no matter where you work, you should not

182
00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,920
Speaker 1: have to be worried about being targeted by criminals and

183
00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,640
Speaker 1: people doing you know, silent and.

184
00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,760
Speaker 2: All the staff in these places are so pleasant, They're

185
00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,920
Speaker 2: so nice when you go in there. I just can't

186
00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,000
Speaker 2: even imagine, you know, how it would be if you've

187
00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,880
Speaker 2: got somebody, you know, addressing you with an edged weapon,

188
00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,560
Speaker 2: and how scared you must.

189
00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,120
Speaker 3: I agree, I absolutely agree.

190
00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how you still continue to go to

191
00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,520
Speaker 1: work every day. Joe. I'm gonna have to get ready

192
00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,200
Speaker 1: to wrap up, but I want to ask you first

193
00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,880
Speaker 1: day back at school yesterday, how did it go in Catherine?

194
00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,920
Speaker 1: Was it a seamless experience? It was belting down here

195
00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:18,840
Speaker 1: in Darwick.

196
00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,920
Speaker 2: Very very wet day. I had a bit of a

197
00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,440
Speaker 2: drive around. I didn't see anyone that wasn't doing the

198
00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,920
Speaker 2: forty or you know, there was police out and about.

199
00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,960
Speaker 2: It looked like it was a very you know, seamless

200
00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,000
Speaker 2: day at school. I went to the high school and

201
00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,079
Speaker 2: to the assembly there and it was very nice to

202
00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,080
Speaker 2: see all the students in school uniform. It was great

203
00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,800
Speaker 2: to welcome the new teachers that have come to the

204
00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,800
Speaker 2: high school. And you know, they were talking about resilience

205
00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,160
Speaker 2: and respect and for all the parents listening in Catherine

206
00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,000
Speaker 2: Cross not part of the uniform, that was a very

207
00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,200
Speaker 2: big take home message for all of the students at school.

208
00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,640
Speaker 2: So it was, it was. It was a great assembly

209
00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,600
Speaker 2: and I look forward to, you know, hopefully trying to

210
00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,520
Speaker 2: attract more teachers to the Catherine region. Katie.

211
00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well hopefully, Joe. Anything else.

212
00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,520
Speaker 2: People to realize that, you know, I say it all

213
00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,520
Speaker 2: the time, we are the center of the universe and

214
00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,920
Speaker 2: all great things happening Catherine and around Catha.

215
00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:14,720
Speaker 3: I love it.

216
00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,520
Speaker 1: You are a strong advocate for Catherine. There is no

217
00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,199
Speaker 1: doubt about that, which is excellent, Joe. Anything else very

218
00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,800
Speaker 1: quickly happening in Catherine that we should be aware already,

219
00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, upcoming events or anything like that while we're

220
00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,080
Speaker 1: beyond the verrom aligne.

221
00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,319
Speaker 2: One thing that I just wanted to that I had

222
00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,440
Speaker 2: brought to my attention, Katie. And I'm trying to work

223
00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,880
Speaker 2: with CAMP Australia and I've spoken to Casarina Street primary

224
00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,920
Speaker 2: school this morning about the after school care service which

225
00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,200
Speaker 2: is finishing up this Friday, and that is a concern

226
00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,160
Speaker 2: for the parents because obviously you know, they need after

227
00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,360
Speaker 2: school care for their children. Yep. So I've just run

228
00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,200
Speaker 2: Camp Australia this morning and I'm I'm speaking with the

229
00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,000
Speaker 2: school to try and you know, see get to the

230
00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,720
Speaker 2: bottom of why they are pulling out of Catherine. Yeah.

231
00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,480
Speaker 1: All right, Well, if you're able to keep us up

232
00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,199
Speaker 1: to date and let us know, that would be great.

233
00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,400
Speaker 1: Joe Hersey, the Member for Catherine. Always good to catch

234
00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,000
Speaker 1: up with you and thanks for heaving me ond the

235
00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,360
Speaker 1: bear of Aligne with us this morning.

236
00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,480
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again soon.

237
00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,240
Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you you too.