WEBVTT - Paul's Raptor's diff is broken! Plus we review the fastest Kia on sale!

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<v Speaker 1>So you know how, I'm trying to be a bit

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<v Speaker 1>thrifty at the moment. You bought the coffees today and

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<v Speaker 1>you bought the snacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Is one for me?

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<v Speaker 1>You just bought one for you. Thanks for that. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>someone else has been thrifty. But obviously I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>save a bit of cash hard times. But I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>trying to save to get you a ticket on a

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic submarine. Hopefully I can get Trevor down there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be like, can you imagine Trevor in that thing?

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like a bloody tin can. I'm seeing bigger

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<v Speaker 1>bloody cans at the Mother's group and then I would

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<v Speaker 1>be at the top of the water and delightfully watch

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<v Speaker 1>on the monitor. You're just imploding.

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<v Speaker 2>But Cable, you just cut it, cut it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just watch you guys have played Oh that Love.

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<v Speaker 3>Back into all seriousness. Can you just pass me that cookie?

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<v Speaker 3>It's just under all the legal letters from last week episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, yes we have yet there they are one

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<v Speaker 1>to ninety of discovery.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my lord, wow, So I hope you all enjoyed

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<v Speaker 3>that last episode with Cadog's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well there's two. Well obviously there's two more words

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<v Speaker 1>on the whiteboard that we're now not allowed to mention.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, jeez, I hope my dog Taco

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't chase any cars soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, no, it was a good chat. So thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for all your feedback. Send us for any questions

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<v Speaker 3>you want us to ask him, because we'll get him

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<v Speaker 3>back in again.

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<v Speaker 1>The jelly match with him versus Trevor is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be happening. Yeah, I can confirm that will be our

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<v Speaker 1>pay per view events only fans. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>I just formed out that cookie a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was great. He was a good chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about him, as I said in the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>he is one of those guys agree with him or

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with him. And some of the stuff he says

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<v Speaker 1>I do disagree with, but I kind of go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>at least he's got an argument for it, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like, he actually thinks about it and

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<v Speaker 1>puts a rational point of view forward.

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<v Speaker 3>And what he said is right if you, like I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>most car reviewers, you just cannot objectively review a car

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<v Speaker 3>when you're there on the manufacturer's dime doing stuff their way.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that if you are in the market

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<v Speaker 3>for a car in the future, just keep.

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<v Speaker 2>That in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to ours. I'm not tied to fucking anyone. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't give a shit, although I wouldn't be paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention to a guy who's wearing a windsheeter with a

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<v Speaker 1>dinosaur on the front of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Dinosaur with a walking stick hit a top. Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, have you been tell me your goss driven anything fun?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, we're going to be talking about it next episode.

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<v Speaker 3>But you got to sit in the taj Mahal of SUVs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wasn't it? Just wasn't it. Indeed, what I loved

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<v Speaker 1>was you could sit in that car. You'll get a

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<v Speaker 1>phone call when you sit in it, and they'll also

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<v Speaker 1>try and work you out with a better like mobile

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<v Speaker 1>phone plan, maybe an energy bill.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really nice of them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll be chatting about the Mihindra on the next episode,

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<v Speaker 3>so make sure you tune in for that one. And

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<v Speaker 3>we'll also be chatting Merch right in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that Merch is been chatting to

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<v Speaker 1>our good mate Machines Plus. Yes, and they're working on

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<v Speaker 1>something pretty special. So we've got a lot of requests

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<v Speaker 1>for like everyone was flooding out in box going hey

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<v Speaker 1>can I merch?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I have merch?

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<v Speaker 1>And our merchant I'm like, we should sell this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't, but we should. But so now what we

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<v Speaker 1>what we originally got was kind of what they call

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<v Speaker 1>like testing stock. Yes, you know, so now we're good.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got one on and nothing else, nothing else and

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<v Speaker 1>free balling it. I like to call it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>dad post. But anyway, so we've got packs coming, so

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, we'll draw a couple of people out at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of this episode and then next episode as well,

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<v Speaker 3>and will then need your addresses. So so Gordy can

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<v Speaker 3>personally deliver stuff just wearing his T shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Just that's it. OHI jesus fucking cold in here, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Kids? Close your eyes. They took.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tesla are lowering their prices and I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>feel like something's in the works with this because they're

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<v Speaker 1>now going to be the cheapest they've ever been. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>so this could mean the new facelift could be dropping soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that's what's happening the problem, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>quite funny. I said this in a few episodes earlier

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<v Speaker 3>that Tesla they didn't want to be like other car

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<v Speaker 3>companies and other car companies when they have a new

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<v Speaker 3>model coming or it's been spied, sales drop off and

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<v Speaker 3>then they do runout deals so they can clear all

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<v Speaker 3>the old crap out of the way. Well, Tesla is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of doing the same thing. There's been all these

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<v Speaker 3>rumors about the new model. As of this recording, it's

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<v Speaker 3>still been announced, and they're now gutting the price of

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<v Speaker 3>the Model three because demand has fallen off at cliff

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<v Speaker 3>And if you're someone like my dad who ordered one,

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<v Speaker 3>even though I'd said to him, Dad, there is another

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<v Speaker 3>one coming, you will be waiting for the new one.

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<v Speaker 3>So Dad ordered it because he wanted to novate Lisa

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<v Speaker 3>and do FBT exemption and take advantage of the Victorian

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<v Speaker 3>subsidy which has now expired anyway. But so the new prices,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on which state you're in habits, have the entry

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<v Speaker 3>level Model three starting from again, depending on the state

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<v Speaker 3>that you're in and depending on the incentives, you can

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<v Speaker 3>get your hands on at around fifty five thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>and that is the cheapest state being Queensland for a

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<v Speaker 3>Model three. Ree wel drive model why rewel drive being

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<v Speaker 3>sixty three to two double eight drive away?

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<v Speaker 1>Then that's on road too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that is bloody cheap.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is cheap for you know, a luxurer, and

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<v Speaker 3>I hate using the term luxury car because they're not

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<v Speaker 3>really luxury. When you look at the features compared to

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<v Speaker 3>like a three Series, you're getting similar, if not better features.

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<v Speaker 3>Three Series is now significantly more expensive than this X three,

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<v Speaker 3>which you could compare to a Model Y is like

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<v Speaker 3>a one hundred thousand dollar car. So I think that

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<v Speaker 3>the value for money here is excellent. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>where Tesla is really going to do well in the

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<v Speaker 3>Model three. In the Model Y S and X are

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<v Speaker 3>dead for Australia anyway, they sell barely any globally.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is right where the core is.

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<v Speaker 3>So I love the look of this and I'm keen

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<v Speaker 3>to hear from anyone that's bought one. Are you upset

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<v Speaker 3>with these price drops? Because the latest price drop is

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<v Speaker 3>circa where are we up to four actually up to

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<v Speaker 3>seven grand for Model Y Performance, so it's a huge

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<v Speaker 3>price drop.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you annoyed that the price is dropping? Let me

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<v Speaker 2>know or let us know, rather contact at the drivers

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<v Speaker 2>show dot com that are you? Does it frustrate you?

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that it's over four grand saving on the

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<v Speaker 1>performance for the model.

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<v Speaker 2>That I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the Model Y performance, it's down seven thousand dollars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's a huge price drop and I think that, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it is interesting to see how this will pan out.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to know if anyone's bought a second

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<v Speaker 1>hand Tesler, because I don't think resale they do that great.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the resale on them at the moment people

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<v Speaker 1>are selling them, you know, literally they're putting a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of hundred k's on them and getting rid of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm talking the ones that are like twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, you know, they are a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>old right now and be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 3>I just here's a few numbers I'll throw at you.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've got alerts set up for Model threes just

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<v Speaker 3>to see.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what's who's who in the zoo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so some of them and this is why people

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<v Speaker 3>in the US market use car market are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be hurting so much. Because an alert came through today

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<v Speaker 3>for an entry level Model three standard range thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 3>k's on the clock. They want fifty seven nine ninety

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<v Speaker 3>plus your stamp duty. You can buy a brand new

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<v Speaker 3>one in Queensland for fifty five drive away and it'll

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<v Speaker 3>probably be delivered in the next month or so. There's

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<v Speaker 3>other numpties here as well. They're trying to sell them

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<v Speaker 3>for seventy grand base models, like, are you guys actually insane?

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<v Speaker 1>What about the model? Why? How much is that going

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<v Speaker 1>for at the moment? Model?

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<v Speaker 2>Why? Same story?

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<v Speaker 3>People are trying to flip them, but they don't understand

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<v Speaker 3>that all you do is spend a minute on the

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<v Speaker 3>Tesla website and you can get a brand new one.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that that segment's going to be interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've bought this with the hope of flipping it,

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<v Speaker 3>you are going to be very upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the secondhand market and that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>market to the flipping market too, is calming right down

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what model. My brother's still waiting on his

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<v Speaker 1>Prito nearly two years later.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll get it just as the new one's released.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I said to him, and he's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to throw his dealer under the bus butt.

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<v Speaker 1>His dealer is a piece of shit, So his dealer goes,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll know the bill date in October this year. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's already waited a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is he still waiting?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I said to him. So I'm like, by

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<v Speaker 1>the time you get this, because his dealer said to him,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get this probably about you know, four or five

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<v Speaker 1>weeks after we have this this bill date. You'll most

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<v Speaker 1>likely get it by the end of the year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, so what In my view, he should somehow

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<v Speaker 1>get on the top of the list for the new

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<v Speaker 1>what we've seen with the new Lexus.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, but I would be telling the dealer just have

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<v Speaker 3>me at the top of that list, because that thing

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<v Speaker 3>looks bloody unreal, I believe, compared to the and in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>let's let's we'll chat about that in a second, because

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<v Speaker 3>I have some information on that. Oh yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that secondhand market for evs is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be hurting now, so it'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Be interesting to see how it pans out. I've always been.

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<v Speaker 3>In the opinion you don't want to buy a secondhand

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<v Speaker 3>ev that's more than three or four years old, because

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind, you're dealing with potentially ticking time bomb

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<v Speaker 3>for a battery. You don't know how that person has

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<v Speaker 3>treated that battery, and we know that if you constantly

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<v Speaker 3>fast charge the battery it will degrade quicker. So you

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<v Speaker 3>might have so right, yeah, absolutely, you might have someone

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<v Speaker 3>that only ever does fast charging that cars parked outside,

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<v Speaker 3>so the battery is stone cold and they charge it immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>That is going to affect the battery life. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be stuck with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you could have someone like me who like never

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<v Speaker 3>fast charges, only ever does a slow rac charging. And

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<v Speaker 3>you've got a battery that's in excellent health, but you

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<v Speaker 3>just don't know what you're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>So and there is no way of really knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>that you can do like a battery health check on

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<v Speaker 1>the cart.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, you can definitely do that, but I mean

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<v Speaker 3>someone who is selling one of these at a premium

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<v Speaker 3>that has been doing that probably won't let you do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know I'd.

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<v Speaker 3>Be insisting on that if you're buying a secondhand ev

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<v Speaker 3>just make sure. And the other thing that's worth keeping

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<v Speaker 3>in mind that the batteries are warranted. But again with

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<v Speaker 3>the warranty, I think it's something like seventy or eighty

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<v Speaker 3>percent of its capacity after eight years, seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent is still not great.

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<v Speaker 3>No, imagine if you bought a car that was working

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<v Speaker 3>at seventy percent efficiency after eight years.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's still not great.

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<v Speaker 1>How much are they how much are they quoting for

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<v Speaker 1>a battery too?

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually but it's like twenty grand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, by the way, happy birthday, Oh thank you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know we're going to get into this story

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<v Speaker 1>in a second. You've had a bit of trouble with

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<v Speaker 1>the raptor, so you've had your sad face on, you've

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<v Speaker 1>had your grumpy pants on, and I thought i'd get

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<v Speaker 1>your present.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Jesus, I think I want to open this.

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<v Speaker 1>You will. It's well, there's things that fund of all

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<v Speaker 1>the things you can stick up on it on your dash,

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<v Speaker 1>like the thought. Since you've got the ruler on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of your car, you've finally got something.

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<v Speaker 2>To meta that is very vainy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an actual replica of my dear.

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<v Speaker 2>Amplified seven hundred thousand times.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, it's quite accurate. So that's an actual mold.

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>It has mold on it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's it's a it's a mold.

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<v Speaker 2>So for those of you listening and not watching.

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<v Speaker 3>Gordy has given me an enormous dildo that has lots

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<v Speaker 3>of veins on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Yeah, let's see something.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicknamed the Croatian Champ. So you can stick that on

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<v Speaker 1>board and it'll remind you of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have had this on the dashboard when I

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<v Speaker 2>dropped the car. Off's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, can you please make sure you don't you don't

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<v Speaker 3>hit that because it Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>The good thing is this is also adaptable because Trevor's

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<v Speaker 1>just bought a new Cooper Born and you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>put this on the seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Bloody god.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Trevor during the week going nuts on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter that he could get Taylor Swift tickets for the

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<v Speaker 1>kids for kids whatever. Your kids are, thirty eight years.

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<v Speaker 2>Old, it's so funny. Well, thank you for that present.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're welcome and need to take it home for

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ. So yeah, back to my Raptor.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, I think I mentioned a little while back

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<v Speaker 3>that it had developed a wine from the differential yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh, that's not good. And I

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<v Speaker 3>booked it in for a service through the website, and

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<v Speaker 3>the earliest service they had was like a month and

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<v Speaker 3>a half away.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, well, all right, I've booked it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've written what the problem was. About a week.

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<v Speaker 3>Before the service, they call up and they go, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>just checking what you're booking it in for. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>for a wine out of the diff and they go, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this will need to be a diagnosis booking.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that's another way, right.

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<v Speaker 3>They go, well, the earliest one we have is a

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<v Speaker 3>month and a half away, and I was like, fox sake.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, all right, let's just book it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, well, just to be clear, am I

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<v Speaker 3>okay to keep driving this because if it's making noise

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<v Speaker 3>obviously I don't want to make it worse. And they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's fine. So I was like okay. So time came

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<v Speaker 3>to drop it off. Dropped it off on a Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said to them, look, don't worry about a

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<v Speaker 3>loan car, because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Have access to other cars.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to take a loan car away from

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<v Speaker 3>someone who else who might need it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's ridiculous. Even you've got a garage full of

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<v Speaker 1>press cars, I'd be still asking for that loan car.

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<v Speaker 2>Sky.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Dropped it off and they called me at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the day and actually no, they yeah, they call

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<v Speaker 3>me at the end of the day and they go,

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<v Speaker 3>are you okay to pick it up tomorrow? And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, sure, that's fine. I'm like, how are

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<v Speaker 3>they going to fix the differential by tomorrow? And she

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<v Speaker 3>didn't mention anything at that point. Tomorrow comes and I

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<v Speaker 3>hear nothing. Gets to the end of the day and

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, oh, look, we're actually going back and forth

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<v Speaker 3>between Ford's technical department. We're going to need a hold

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<v Speaker 3>onto the car for a bit longer. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>like okay. And at this point I opened up my

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<v Speaker 3>app and I could see that the car haven't been

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<v Speaker 3>moved or driven since the end of the Tuesday when

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<v Speaker 3>they called, so it had been sitting there.

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<v Speaker 2>And Friday came and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like okay, and they leave me a voicemail and they go,

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<v Speaker 3>so it turns out we're going to need to replace

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<v Speaker 3>your diff and I was like, okay, that's quite a development.

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<v Speaker 2>As I call them up and I was said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the go.

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<v Speaker 3>And they go, well, apparently it didn't have enough diff

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<v Speaker 3>oil from the factory.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've been driving it around for five thousand K

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<v Speaker 3>without enough defoil from the factory.

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<v Speaker 1>Geez, don't they do those sorts of checks when they

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<v Speaker 1>had a car over?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and the other thing as well, and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Did quite you did quite a detailed video direct.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that was the thing. So we did two things.

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<v Speaker 3>Firstly, like these cars were checked over at the factory,

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<v Speaker 3>so they got additional checks above and beyond customer cars,

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<v Speaker 3>because there were four other three or four other journalists

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<v Speaker 3>that bought these and we all paid full price for them,

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<v Speaker 3>like the same price that you would pay if you

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<v Speaker 3>walked into the dealer and had the same thing. So

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<v Speaker 3>they all got extra checks at the factory. And then

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<v Speaker 3>in addition to that, we then videoed the pre delivery

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<v Speaker 3>process where they do all of these checks.

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<v Speaker 2>And I presume one of those checks is making sure there's.

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<v Speaker 3>Oil in the diff So yeah, not thrilled with it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll be interested to see how long it takes.

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<v Speaker 3>And at that point I was like, well, look, I

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<v Speaker 3>had loaned the car to my dad because he had

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<v Speaker 3>sold his car to buy Tesla, and so I loaned

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<v Speaker 3>that Rappor to him to drive, so he could have

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<v Speaker 3>fucked it doing burnouts potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>But it sounds like your dad, so I've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>down the chatty car park.

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<v Speaker 3>I said to the I said to the lady on

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<v Speaker 3>the phone, look, can I take a loan car because

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<v Speaker 3>right now the car has been out of action for

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<v Speaker 3>a week and it's now complicating things.

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<v Speaker 2>I need a car for dad to borrow. So they

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<v Speaker 2>said yeah, no, drums come straight away.

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<v Speaker 3>So the car thing is frustrating. But I've got to

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<v Speaker 3>say the dealer has been excellent to deal with. So

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<v Speaker 3>do you think no offense? But do you think that

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<v Speaker 3>sort of treatment goes out to everyone?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I hope.

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<v Speaker 3>So the dealer was Essendon Ford, so near the airport,

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<v Speaker 3>and the lady that I've been dealing with has been great.

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<v Speaker 3>They organized the loan car quickly as well, So from

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<v Speaker 3>that point of view, I've been very happy with it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do hope that they treat other customers in

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<v Speaker 3>the same way. And I do hope as well that

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<v Speaker 3>this isn't a bigger issue with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Raptor because there have been reported problems, which kind of

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<v Speaker 1>those things with a grain of salt too, because you

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<v Speaker 1>never know who's kind of coming out with these reporters.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've driven the car just normally.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd basically just drive it around and I've got the

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<v Speaker 3>baby seed and it we did some performance testing with

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<v Speaker 3>it. It was all just sort of pretty basic stuff. We

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<v Speaker 3>also had the same noise that mine made out of

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<v Speaker 3>a press car, yes, when we were doing that towing tests,

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<v Speaker 3>and they replaced that vehicle, and finally it took three

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<v Speaker 3>or four months for them to get this to us,

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<v Speaker 3>but we determined that the issue with the car was

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<v Speaker 3>apparently side strike, So the vehicle had had a side

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<v Speaker 3>strike on one of the wheels that had caused the

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<v Speaker 3>dift to come out of alignment. But I definitely haven't

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<v Speaker 3>struck any curves or anything with mine. I could get

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<v Speaker 3>it with the press car, but with mine.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I kind of feel like, if you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>light performance work in that car and it causes side strike,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, what does that say?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that was with the press car. I mean, who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>You look at some of the people that drive these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Are pointing your mate.

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<v Speaker 2>Very looks very much like you. Let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give them benefit of the doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm planning on doing when I get the car

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<v Speaker 3>back is doing the same thing that we did to

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<v Speaker 3>start with. Because if whatever we did to start with,

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<v Speaker 3>which was light performance testing, does this again, then I

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<v Speaker 3>think there is a design issue that they need to

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<v Speaker 3>look at.

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<v Speaker 2>So so yeah, watch this space.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, problems with the interior, the glove box with box.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah they're fixing that. That was a minor thing. I

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<v Speaker 3>think something with the hinge on that. But that was

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<v Speaker 3>the only issue I've had and the differential.

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<v Speaker 1>And major construction issue at the car got aside from that. Anyways, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>after all that, enjoy your plastic penis.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Yes, I'll take it with me when I

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<v Speaker 2>collect the car.

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<v Speaker 1>You can pay with the plastic penis. You're walk into

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<v Speaker 1>the dealership and just pointed in their face like you

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<v Speaker 1>you and you come over here. I want my raptor.

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<v Speaker 1>You should take this to your next EV Council convention.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you how the installation's going?

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<v Speaker 2>Ye oh, Jesus put that down.

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<v Speaker 3>So I promised earlier we'd have a very quick chat

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<v Speaker 3>about the Lexus GX. So the Lexus GX, the reason

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<v Speaker 3>it's so important is the previous General Lexus GX was

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<v Speaker 3>basically a Prito except in the States they sold it

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<v Speaker 3>with a naturally aspirated V eight. Yes, Prito here was

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<v Speaker 3>sold with four cylinder diesel out of high lux and

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<v Speaker 3>also a naturally asperated petrol V six at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but now there's development.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>So now now that Lexus has revealed the GX, they've

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<v Speaker 3>said that it's going to come with the same twin

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<v Speaker 3>turbo V six petrol out of the LEX which is

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<v Speaker 3>two sixty kilo's six to fifty meters ten speed automatic transmission.

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<v Speaker 3>They've also said they're working on a hybrid, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the one out of the RX, which is a two

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<v Speaker 3>point four letter turbo petrol eight speed auto and that

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<v Speaker 3>thing is fun to drive as well. We think that

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<v Speaker 3>for the Australian market they will also do a diesel

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<v Speaker 3>out of the land Cruiser. Now, obviously this can't be

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<v Speaker 3>the same as a land Cruiser because no one would

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<v Speaker 3>then buy the land Cruiser.

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<v Speaker 1>But the GX isn't this the same platform?

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<v Speaker 3>We have same platform, same wheelbase as a three hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>It's shorter, but just because of the overhangs, I suspect

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<v Speaker 3>it will be slightly de kitted as well. The reason

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this is going to be the Prido

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<v Speaker 3>is overnight in the States, Motor Trend has announced that

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<v Speaker 3>the land Cruiser is coming back to the States. Because

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<v Speaker 3>they killed the land Cruiser because it was too expensive

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<v Speaker 3>for the States, they're now bringing back the land Cruiser,

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<v Speaker 3>but they haven't said what it's going to be called.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have a feeling they're going to do a

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<v Speaker 3>global land cruise of Prato. In the States, it will

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<v Speaker 3>be basically a slightly despect version of the GX, and

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<v Speaker 3>for the Australian market it will be a slightly despect

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<v Speaker 3>version of their Prato. So it'll probably be diesel four cylinder,

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<v Speaker 3>Diesel V.

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<v Speaker 2>Six, Diesel V six ye.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm excited because this thing looks unreal, Like they

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<v Speaker 3>have one particular speck that is like the off road speck,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's finished in sandy talk, which is the color

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<v Speaker 3>they have on the seventy series, a similar color to that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got like roofrails, it's got big all terrains. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's unreal and I'm really excited for this, but

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<v Speaker 3>it does tell me that the Prato is going to

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<v Speaker 3>get bloody expensive. Prato currently caps out ninety five k

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<v Speaker 3>for the Kakadu. I reckon this is going to start

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<v Speaker 3>at around the eighty mark, and I reckon it'll cap

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<v Speaker 3>out at about one twenty one point thirty, just before

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<v Speaker 3>you get into the good Lan Cruiser.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Kakadoo and the land Cruise is Sahara to me,

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:36.199
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's a little bit over the top screens

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<v Speaker 1>and all that sort of stuff. It's fine, but something

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<v Speaker 1>like the VX, which is second from the top.

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<v Speaker 3>I regon VX will be around the ninety k mark

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<v Speaker 3>ninety five, it'll probably be where Kakadu is now, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe even a bit higher than that. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think toyet is onto a good thing. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>if you were Ford at the moment, actually not even thought.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you were Isuzu with the MUX, you

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<v Speaker 3>would be bloody terrified because you have one diesel engine

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.399
<v Speaker 3>and you know, an interior that is now starting to

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<v Speaker 3>feel dated in terms of infotainment. And if these guys

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 3>roll out hybrid V six diesel, I mean it is

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<v Speaker 3>going to slaughter those vehicles. But it is significantly more

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<v Speaker 3>expensive than those.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you know what I think Iszuza will bank

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<v Speaker 1>on the fact that the wait times are astronomical for

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<v Speaker 1>most toyotas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Toyta is going to have to sort that out. So, oh,

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:25.480
<v Speaker 2>like urge.

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<v Speaker 1>Massively, they pretty much shut down all production if there

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<v Speaker 1>was one component missing, say it was a chip shortage

0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 1>for instance. Doing that most of the most production was

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<v Speaker 1>just shut down completely. They didn't sort of Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't think they've done what other brands have done, where

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.960
<v Speaker 3>they've despect cars, and I think that's a good thing

0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.440
<v Speaker 3>because you'll see some some of the BMW press cars

0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:49.240
<v Speaker 3>we've had, for example, are missing things like radar crews control,

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<v Speaker 3>a wireless phone charger because they despect it.

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<v Speaker 1>So he did the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you bought one of those thousands of cars

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.159
<v Speaker 3>that are missing that, when it comes time to resell it,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the buy is going to look at this

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<v Speaker 3>and go, okay, well, I'm obviously not going to get

0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 3>the one that doesn't have radar crews control, a feature

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 3>that's now standard on you know, some twenty thousand dollar cars, Yeah,

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 3>twenty five thousand dollar cars. So I think that Toyder

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<v Speaker 3>kind of did the smart thing there, and as a

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<v Speaker 3>result of that, they created a huge amount of demand

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<v Speaker 3>for their vehicles, so it helped deals with margins.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone was sort of happy with that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a backlog, though, isn't it It is. It's amazing

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.119
<v Speaker 1>how long people are waiting for these cars, and how

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<v Speaker 1>long they're willing to wait.

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<v Speaker 2>For these cars, exactly exactly, yeap.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, should we get into our cute little review.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's dop, well.

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<v Speaker 1>You usually do, yes, yes, I well, there's help if

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<v Speaker 1>I if I put this over here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The twenty three k EV.

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<v Speaker 1>Sex g T Oh my god. So pricing starts at

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<v Speaker 1>around about ninety nine thousand. The figures on this now

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<v Speaker 1>look four hundred and thirty killer watts seven hundred and.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty newton meters.

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<v Speaker 1>Have talked crazy numbers zero to one hundred in three

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<v Speaker 1>point five yeap. Range is about four to twenty, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a bit on the average side. Fast

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<v Speaker 1>charging was pretty good too.

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<v Speaker 2>For memory e one hundred volt architecture.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeap, so eighteen minutes from ten to eighty percent. Long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>we did the EV six and I loved it. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved the GT line. I thought it was great. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so well put together. What do you think of the

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<v Speaker 1>styling of this car, because the GT and GT line

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>they're very similar in terms of looks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like the rear of this car the best.

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 3>I think it looks fantastic. Those lights look sensational. And

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<v Speaker 3>I also like with the with the GT that you

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<v Speaker 3>get different color breaks.

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and the breaks to me make it those big

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:33.360
<v Speaker 1>popin kind of fluoro green yellow breaks, they're the big standout.

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:34.879
<v Speaker 1>That's the big thing that's going to tell you that

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>this isn't the normal EV six. This is the GT

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to a PUNSI little badge. I guess styling wise,

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I would have liked a little bit more extra styling

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<v Speaker 1>on differentiation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what Yanda is doing with the five N.

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 3>They're making it look very different today.

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<v Speaker 1>They've always done that with the end generally, which.

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<v Speaker 3>I think is a good idea because if you're buying this,

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 3>you probably want people to know that it is the

0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 3>faster one. But maybe Keath thought, well, look, this is

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<v Speaker 3>enough of a polarizing design that we won't actually sort

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 3>of go too crazy with with.

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, making it even more different.

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<v Speaker 3>I just like the fact that they have really thought

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 3>about this as a performance vehicle as well, Like they

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:16.679
<v Speaker 3>have a proper battery cooling strategy, the big breaks, you know,

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 3>they've got the different suspension here, as well, So this

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 3>has basically it solves all the issues they had with

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.159
<v Speaker 3>the IIC five of the first generation of that. I

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 3>think this has a twin chamber design, so they're basically

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 3>a much much more progressive setup. It's also adaptively adaptively

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 3>damped as well, so you really do get the best

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<v Speaker 3>of everything here in terms of the way that it

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<v Speaker 3>sort of performs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think on the inside too, in terms of

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the interior does look again, there isn't To me, there

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:49.399
<v Speaker 1>isn't too much of a difference. I mean the seats

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>actually there are sort of bucket style seats if you're

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<v Speaker 1>like manually adjustable set, That's what I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>what's with that? They're not going to save on They're

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<v Speaker 1>surely they're not going to save on weight with that.

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the story is with that.

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 3>But manually adjustable seats, I just on one hundred thousand

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:06.360
<v Speaker 3>dollar car I think is an absolute joke.

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Same with the wired Apple Car Play Android Auto. I

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:11.159
<v Speaker 1>just I don't understand it.

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kia and Yanda keep claiming that's a vendor issue,

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 3>but it's like, what is.

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>That like a when you say a vendor software problem?

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like it's more of a patent thing.

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, they've had this issue now for years. Everyone else

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 3>seems to be getting along fine with wireless car play.

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and they also offer wireless car play

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 3>in cheaper key model, so I don't know why they

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 3>can't figure it out, but I think it's really hurting

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 3>them on the technology front. Yeah, I do like the interior.

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 3>It's I don't know, but my issue with these is

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:48.719
<v Speaker 3>just that they haven't thought about the practicality of an

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.199
<v Speaker 3>EV all that well, if you compare this to a

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 3>fast tesla, you don't really make any compromise on storage space.

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 3>In a fast tesla, you still have the same type

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 3>of storage that you do in a long range or

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 3>the entry level. I think that they probably need to know, yes,

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 3>have a focus on performance, but also have a focus

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 3>on that other stuff. I did like that this has

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 3>a drift mode which genuinely switches off all of the

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 3>safety aids and sends talk to the rear yep.

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was pretty cool.

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 3>It is fairly unhinged when that is active, though, so

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 3>don't try it on a public road.

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think it's I think it's a really

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>good effort.

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 3>It's just yeah, not that efficient, which means you're driving

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:29.880
<v Speaker 3>range isn't going to be great.

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 1>And that's going to go down to when you're driving

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>that in proper GT mode, that's going to go down

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 1>as well. You look at the numbers on this thing.

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>The numbers that it's pumping out are amazing. The zero

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to one hundred and three point five. I mean that's

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>faster than a portion nine to eleven a Ferrari Broma,

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking whatever. I'm not Italian, but you get my point.

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>It's the numbers are incredible, But does it have the

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>cred or does it sort of deserve to sit side

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>by side next to those cars?

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, look fast in a straight line. The handling is good,

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 3>but it's not amazing. So yet to drive an EV

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 3>outside of probably the Tykhan that is really settled in

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 3>terms of the handling. Because they are so heavy and

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 3>because they have such a low center of gravity, it

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 3>is tricky to make this comfortable and handle well. You

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 3>can't really have both, and I think they've got close

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 3>enough with this. But yeah, it does still feel heavy

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 3>when it's driven faster at the track, so I think

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 3>that is worth keeping in mind.

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll bang on with that too, because my

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>first impressions were is this going to be something that

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to love like a nine to eleven or

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>is this going to be a Keia with a party trick?

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>And it feels like a fridge with a party trick.

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the drift mode's called, there's not really that much.

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you'd take this to the track. It's

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>not the sort of car you take to the track.

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>It's got no race tech in it whatsoever. It's cool

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>that the fact that it goes zero to one hundred

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and three point five, the way it handles on a

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>highway at that speed, I wouldn't buy it on that alone.

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I kind of got bored of it, to be honest.

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's why I think the GT line is the

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 3>better option. That is well and truly fast enough, and.

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>It does have that cute little boost button. Then I

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>think you get in the Genesis so you.

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Do save your money and it still does most of

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 3>the stuff that this does, So yeah, I don't see.

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 3>And the other thing worth mentioning is I kept referring

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 3>to Tesla here, but if you look at a Model

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 3>three and Model Wide performance, you still get the performance

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 3>out of those, but.

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>You get handle better too.

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get all the tech benefits.

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 3>So I think these guys have spent a lot of

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 3>time focusing on performance, which is great, but then let's

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 3>have a look at tech and making that all really

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 3>sing with over the air updates and other sort of

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 3>fun stuff. And I just don't think it has all

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 3>that fun stuff that they could be otherwise doing at

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 3>the moment.

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, I think save yourself fifteen grand, go

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>for the EV six GT line fifteen grand for a

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>cool little three point five. I think you'll get bored

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>of it. That's my thoughts. Yeah, was that a quick

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>ass car of you.

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of summed it all up.

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>That's efficient.

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Let's chat DMS. What have you got in there on

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 3>the dam? Who are we sending merch to?

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I think we've got a new piece of

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>merch right here.

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Let's stick it.

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:18.959
<v Speaker 1>Why am I holding your birthday?

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 3>Someone is either going to get a T shirt or

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 3>this enormous dildo.

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Actually, I should ask Machines Plus if they can put

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>our logo on that.

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 2>On the shaft.

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine Gussie's thing? You want me to put

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the logo on the binis okay, I can do that

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>for you, for your boys anything.

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let's kick off with emails.

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Contact at the Driver's Show dot com today you if

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 3>you want to shoot us an email.

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>This one is from Daniel, not Daniel. Funny enough.

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>We do have a message from Daniel and wow, interesting one.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to him.

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Good Daniel Daniels, Hey, guys, love the show. A couple

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 3>of things from today's EP. We had a carbecue come

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 3>to my Ford dealer in Melbourne for a Triple M day.

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, so he's talking about when we were talking

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to Jonesy about radio cars. Yes, yes, so Merrick Watts

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<v Speaker 1>when he was on Triple M he bought I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say it was one of the old Falcons and

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<v Speaker 1>turned it into a carbecue. He literally had this big

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<v Speaker 1>ass barbecue out the back. Phenomenal thing. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>get mess on the show actually and I'll get him

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it. But yeah, an incredible thing, just

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<v Speaker 1>just amazing. He ended up I think he funded the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing himself. If not, he definitely bought the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, this was a promo car went round to

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<v Speaker 1>people's places and workplaces and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unreal, he said.

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<v Speaker 3>A suggestion you could do for fun, get old carmags,

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<v Speaker 3>read the reviews, then try find the same type of

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<v Speaker 3>car now through car clubs, etc. On a retro review

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<v Speaker 3>car like that. The two Hands car was sold at

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<v Speaker 3>auction in Melbourne about ten years ago. And talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the Two Hands movie, it's based on a Sydney Underworld

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<v Speaker 3>figure now passed away, but the club in the movie

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<v Speaker 3>was called the Pink Panther. After the movie, it added

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<v Speaker 3>on the door two hands required.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>There's also a true crime podcast which is called Loose Units,

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<v Speaker 3>which has discussed this club, by the way, cool and

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<v Speaker 3>it signs off by saying I'm Dan, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>But not Daniel. That you guys keep referring to. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for that email. Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>That is really cool and I actually love the whole

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<v Speaker 3>idea of having a look at old reviews in car Maggs,

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon, that's great having old car bags lying around.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what I used to have. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to have boxes and boxes of unique cars Unique Cars bag.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's still around.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I think it died recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah well, I had boxes of those. It is still around,

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<v Speaker 1>So Daniel and by the way, Daniel originated from the

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<v Speaker 1>dickhead who quite liked the podcast but thought our humor

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<v Speaker 1>was a tad pura. Well, look who's come out of

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<v Speaker 1>the works asking for merch. I ignored his DMS and

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<v Speaker 1>he just wore, okay, good chat. And then I went, look,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah blah. I actually was nice to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's unlike you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know. I was like, hey, listen, tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what when we get the good stuff in, I'll send

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<v Speaker 1>you some merch blah blah blah blah blah. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote, can you stop being nice? I want the

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<v Speaker 1>abusive Gordy from the podcast, and I just stopped replying.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucking just tell him We'll send him some merchant.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll tell you what he's getting there, Daniel. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>just just go, Hey, Daniel, this is for you. Stick

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<v Speaker 1>that up your ass.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sent a great little video to Daniel Gold. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a d M from Ollie. This is the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>would be driving two hours to see his girlfriend and

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<v Speaker 1>would listen to our episodes on repeat. Right, just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. My girlfriend thinks this podcast is so

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<v Speaker 1>annoying and stupid, but I think it's the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>since sly spread. Can you boys send me a T

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<v Speaker 1>shirt and I'll give it to her.

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<v Speaker 2>What the T shirt? Yeah? Are you giving to her?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll send you that as well. I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think you should get a new girlfriend. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean to be rude, but I think you should

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<v Speaker 1>trade her in.

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<v Speaker 2>And she doesn't sound like she's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>She sounds like a bit ollie. Get rid of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Get rid of her. And if she's listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>right now, check yourself. Let the kid have a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Let him have a podcast. Were two dudes who sit

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<v Speaker 1>in a studio piss fart about. He sits in his

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<v Speaker 1>car and listens to us as a break from you

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<v Speaker 1>to drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hours to you as well.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, yes we get him through it. Stop

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<v Speaker 1>living in regional bloody Australia. Start moving to a big city.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ollie is a good guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that was fun, that was good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So next step we're gonna be chatting the behindra

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<v Speaker 3>Actually tune in for that. And please, I know I

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<v Speaker 3>say this every time, but if you haven't done this,

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<v Speaker 3>just stop what you're doing and just do it. That is,

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<v Speaker 3>leave us a rating, leave us rating, and leave us

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<v Speaker 3>a comment too great, Leave a nice comment, because we've

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<v Speaker 3>had like five x RA ratings in the past week,

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<v Speaker 3>but you haven't left any comments. You've just hit five stars.

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<v Speaker 3>So make sure you hit five stars and click writer

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<v Speaker 3>of You and write down.

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<v Speaker 1>The very bottom leave something nice five stars and something

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<v Speaker 1>funny as well, and little Pavlo will pay you a

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<v Speaker 1>visit with Donna and make love with that gigantic Deldo

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<v Speaker 1>and I will film the whole thing and put it

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, thank you for listening.