1 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:14,869 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen 2 00:00:14,909 --> 00:00:16,388 Speaker 1: live on the Free I had a. 3 00:00:17,469 --> 00:00:21,028 Speaker 2: Dean erupting in Los Angeles, downtown Los Angeles. If you 4 00:00:21,069 --> 00:00:23,188 Speaker 2: missed the audio before, there are a bunch of people 5 00:00:23,229 --> 00:00:26,949 Speaker 2: that gathered downtown Los Angeles outside the Metropolitan Detention Center 6 00:00:26,989 --> 00:00:30,829 Speaker 2: to oppose the immigration laws that Trump is imposing. And look, 7 00:00:30,909 --> 00:00:32,269 Speaker 2: just to give you an idea and why this is 8 00:00:32,269 --> 00:00:35,108 Speaker 2: affecting Australia so much, Lauren Tomrci, who was covering the 9 00:00:35,149 --> 00:00:38,788 Speaker 2: event four Channel nine, was shot by a rubber bullet 10 00:00:39,748 --> 00:00:41,908 Speaker 2: by the LAPD. Have a listen to this if you 11 00:00:41,909 --> 00:00:42,789 Speaker 2: haven't already, the. 12 00:00:42,789 --> 00:00:47,629 Speaker 3: LAPD moving in on horseback, firing rubber bullets at protesters, 13 00:00:48,069 --> 00:01:00,389 Speaker 3: moving them on through the heart of lat. 14 00:01:00,309 --> 00:01:02,549 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that footage as well, Like she is okay, 15 00:01:02,589 --> 00:01:04,829 Speaker 1: by the way, really want to stress that she is okay. 16 00:01:04,949 --> 00:01:07,548 Speaker 1: But if you see the footage, naturally, when I first 17 00:01:07,549 --> 00:01:09,269 Speaker 1: saw the headline, it was like, oh, so she's been 18 00:01:09,309 --> 00:01:12,469 Speaker 1: caught in the crossfire. It's a horrible accident. It's not 19 00:01:13,229 --> 00:01:16,589 Speaker 1: you see someone behind her aim and shoot her in 20 00:01:16,629 --> 00:01:16,949 Speaker 1: the league. 21 00:01:17,029 --> 00:01:18,669 Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a lot of people are saying online, 22 00:01:18,909 --> 00:01:21,469 Speaker 2: you know, that's a person who's got a camera on them, 23 00:01:21,469 --> 00:01:23,349 Speaker 2: clearly reporting for the news. I mean the reporter should 24 00:01:23,349 --> 00:01:25,069 Speaker 2: be immune image what they're doing to everybody else. There's 25 00:01:25,069 --> 00:01:29,229 Speaker 2: footage of protest is getting stamped by the LAPD on horseback. 26 00:01:29,469 --> 00:01:29,869 Speaker 4: So look. 27 00:01:29,909 --> 00:01:33,469 Speaker 2: Miley Hogan from seven News, their USA correspondent, joins us 28 00:01:33,509 --> 00:01:35,309 Speaker 2: right now on Will and Woody. Miley, I saw you 29 00:01:35,349 --> 00:01:38,109 Speaker 2: on TV with a helmet seconds ago. Are you okay? 30 00:01:40,309 --> 00:01:42,829 Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, Look I am okay. We do where a 31 00:01:42,989 --> 00:01:45,749 Speaker 4: ppe when we feel it's appropriate, and we just try 32 00:01:45,789 --> 00:01:48,189 Speaker 4: to assess the situation as much as we can and 33 00:01:48,309 --> 00:01:50,949 Speaker 4: hope that our training will kick in and we can 34 00:01:51,589 --> 00:01:54,589 Speaker 4: keep as safe as possible. Look, I will say sometimes 35 00:01:54,629 --> 00:01:57,749 Speaker 4: things happen when you're on the field, when you're reporting 36 00:01:57,789 --> 00:02:03,509 Speaker 4: on stories like Viswatan, sometimes things do happen. And unfortunately 37 00:02:04,029 --> 00:02:06,829 Speaker 4: for Lauren, that was an awful, distressing situation. And I 38 00:02:06,829 --> 00:02:08,508 Speaker 4: think we've all seen the footage and we can see 39 00:02:08,549 --> 00:02:10,309 Speaker 4: what happened there. I don't think there's much she could 40 00:02:10,309 --> 00:02:12,389 Speaker 4: have done really to avoid that. 41 00:02:13,029 --> 00:02:14,669 Speaker 2: Is it scary though, mother, because I mean is what 42 00:02:14,788 --> 00:02:16,589 Speaker 2: he just pointed out. I mean, yeah, there's not much 43 00:02:16,589 --> 00:02:18,549 Speaker 2: that you might have done if you according a crossfire. Sure, 44 00:02:18,589 --> 00:02:20,349 Speaker 2: we'd all kind of look at that and go that 45 00:02:20,509 --> 00:02:22,589 Speaker 2: was hectic. But as you said, we've all said in 46 00:02:22,589 --> 00:02:26,309 Speaker 2: the footage, she clearly takes aim at her and shoots her. 47 00:02:26,429 --> 00:02:29,069 Speaker 2: Is this this is a different sort of conflict that 48 00:02:29,109 --> 00:02:31,629 Speaker 2: we're seeing here. I mean, for anyone who's seen the 49 00:02:31,789 --> 00:02:34,589 Speaker 2: Alix Galan movie Civil War, there's a lot of that 50 00:02:34,989 --> 00:02:37,469 Speaker 2: about this for me right now, And I'm just you know, 51 00:02:37,469 --> 00:02:40,829 Speaker 2: if the press are getting targeted, how close is this 52 00:02:40,829 --> 00:02:43,309 Speaker 2: to unfolding into something a bit more hectic? Do you think? 53 00:02:45,429 --> 00:02:45,589 Speaker 3: Well? 54 00:02:45,629 --> 00:02:48,109 Speaker 4: I think as a journalist, you never want to see 55 00:02:48,149 --> 00:02:51,749 Speaker 4: the press getting targeted. It's important for journalists to be 56 00:02:51,789 --> 00:02:55,789 Speaker 4: able to be close up to these situations so we 57 00:02:55,869 --> 00:02:58,949 Speaker 4: can get a good understanding of what's actually happening on 58 00:02:58,989 --> 00:03:01,349 Speaker 4: the ground and then report it back. So the last 59 00:03:01,389 --> 00:03:04,429 Speaker 4: thing you want to do or see is journalists being 60 00:03:04,469 --> 00:03:08,149 Speaker 4: intimidated or frightened from doing their job. We want to 61 00:03:08,189 --> 00:03:09,989 Speaker 4: be able to be in there and get it done. 62 00:03:10,029 --> 00:03:13,349 Speaker 4: It's so important. I do believe that there'll be an 63 00:03:13,349 --> 00:03:17,149 Speaker 4: investigation into what happened to my friend in the wonderful 64 00:03:17,189 --> 00:03:19,989 Speaker 4: port Lauren to Marcy, So hopefully we'll get to Marsters there. 65 00:03:20,589 --> 00:03:24,149 Speaker 4: I haven't experienced that myself on the ground, so I 66 00:03:24,189 --> 00:03:27,429 Speaker 4: will say I mean there's been times where rubber bullets 67 00:03:27,509 --> 00:03:31,389 Speaker 4: has been definitely shot in the direction of where we 68 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:34,789 Speaker 4: may be, or we'll see them getting shot at protesters. 69 00:03:35,869 --> 00:03:38,909 Speaker 4: Is it is always a bit hectic, to say the 70 00:03:38,989 --> 00:03:40,549 Speaker 4: least on the ground at times? 71 00:03:40,909 --> 00:03:43,869 Speaker 1: Hey, Milly, is this one of those situations where obviously 72 00:03:43,909 --> 00:03:46,909 Speaker 1: everything we're seeing on TV and through media, it looks 73 00:03:46,989 --> 00:03:49,069 Speaker 1: really hectic. To be honest, it kind of looks like 74 00:03:49,069 --> 00:03:51,549 Speaker 1: the kind of thing where there's no way I would 75 00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:54,149 Speaker 1: feel safe going to Los Angeles right now, Like if 76 00:03:54,149 --> 00:03:56,309 Speaker 1: I had a holiday book for tomorrow, I would be 77 00:03:56,309 --> 00:03:59,229 Speaker 1: canceling that trip one hundred percent. Is it actually that 78 00:03:59,589 --> 00:04:02,349 Speaker 1: hectic or are there just sort of small portions of 79 00:04:02,469 --> 00:04:05,589 Speaker 1: LA where it is really scary. 80 00:04:05,669 --> 00:04:07,949 Speaker 4: If you've ever been to Los Angeles, you'll understand it's 81 00:04:07,989 --> 00:04:11,869 Speaker 4: a city that is ball It's absolutely massive, and these 82 00:04:11,909 --> 00:04:16,109 Speaker 4: protests are concentrated in the downtown area. It really is 83 00:04:16,188 --> 00:04:20,188 Speaker 4: concentrated to i'd say a four block radius in the 84 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:23,869 Speaker 4: downtown area. If you were coming as a tourist, I 85 00:04:23,868 --> 00:04:26,909 Speaker 4: wouldn't be recommending going down to downtown Los Angeles at 86 00:04:26,909 --> 00:04:30,189 Speaker 4: this time. But you could go across to Santa Monica, 87 00:04:30,469 --> 00:04:33,589 Speaker 4: Venice West Hollywood and you'd see a thriving Los Angeles 88 00:04:33,589 --> 00:04:37,909 Speaker 4: getting on with their life. This really is concentrated in 89 00:04:37,949 --> 00:04:39,229 Speaker 4: the downtown area. 90 00:04:39,269 --> 00:04:42,828 Speaker 2: Are you afraid though? Because I mean Miley, the last 91 00:04:42,829 --> 00:04:45,109 Speaker 2: time the National Guard was sent out it was in 92 00:04:45,189 --> 00:04:47,709 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five to try and aid protesters in a 93 00:04:47,789 --> 00:04:50,269 Speaker 2: silent protest. And you know, I know the governor of 94 00:04:51,549 --> 00:04:55,549 Speaker 2: California has said, you know, well, first of all, Trump 95 00:04:56,109 --> 00:04:58,709 Speaker 2: has endorsed his arrest, and then he's come out and said, 96 00:04:58,749 --> 00:05:01,709 Speaker 2: come and arrest me, big guy. And now Trump has 97 00:05:01,749 --> 00:05:04,789 Speaker 2: said literally used the words big guy. Ironically, how American 98 00:05:04,829 --> 00:05:08,268 Speaker 2: is that? And then he's now I know that Trump 99 00:05:08,309 --> 00:05:11,149 Speaker 2: is sending a over hundreds, if not thousands of Marines 100 00:05:11,269 --> 00:05:15,629 Speaker 2: and more National Guards. So whilst this is concentrated and 101 00:05:15,988 --> 00:05:19,909 Speaker 2: sure in a downtown area, surely there's a part of 102 00:05:19,949 --> 00:05:22,509 Speaker 2: you that feels as if you know, this is potentially 103 00:05:22,589 --> 00:05:26,069 Speaker 2: the spark that kicks off a powder keg of violence. 104 00:05:28,549 --> 00:05:30,909 Speaker 4: I think it will be interesting to see what does 105 00:05:30,949 --> 00:05:34,988 Speaker 4: happen when the Marines arriving downtown Los Angeles. To be 106 00:05:35,189 --> 00:05:37,388 Speaker 4: very honest with you, it hasn't been very It hasn't 107 00:05:37,389 --> 00:05:39,909 Speaker 4: been made clear what the Marines will be doing when 108 00:05:39,949 --> 00:05:43,669 Speaker 4: they get here. There's been no clear communication to the media, 109 00:05:43,949 --> 00:05:46,709 Speaker 4: to the public. Are they going to be on the streets. 110 00:05:46,789 --> 00:05:51,109 Speaker 4: We're going to see marine marine on the streets doing 111 00:05:51,149 --> 00:05:54,109 Speaker 4: crowd control. These are soldiers that have been trained to 112 00:05:54,149 --> 00:05:57,308 Speaker 4: fight foreign wars. Are we going to see people with 113 00:05:57,389 --> 00:06:01,989 Speaker 4: that level of training dealing with their own citizens who 114 00:06:01,988 --> 00:06:05,709 Speaker 4: are protesting. I mean, that would be an extraordinary exhalation, 115 00:06:06,109 --> 00:06:08,989 Speaker 4: and it would be an extraordinary show of for so 116 00:06:09,429 --> 00:06:12,188 Speaker 4: how far Donald Trump is willing to go to use 117 00:06:12,229 --> 00:06:19,748 Speaker 4: the military to intimidate American citizens and also to patrol 118 00:06:19,829 --> 00:06:23,149 Speaker 4: these It really would be an extraordinary escalation. If the 119 00:06:23,189 --> 00:06:25,669 Speaker 4: Marines were on the streets here will be fascinating and 120 00:06:25,869 --> 00:06:28,189 Speaker 4: very unprecedented to watch. 121 00:06:28,229 --> 00:06:31,308 Speaker 2: Really well, he said they're going over there to restore order, 122 00:06:32,469 --> 00:06:35,229 Speaker 2: is what he said. And you know, as Newsom has 123 00:06:35,269 --> 00:06:38,428 Speaker 2: said that the governor of California that they shouldn't be deployed. 124 00:06:38,709 --> 00:06:43,269 Speaker 2: They shouldn't be deploying American soldiers on American soil, facing 125 00:06:43,309 --> 00:06:47,589 Speaker 2: their own countrymen to fulfill the deranged fantasy of a 126 00:06:47,709 --> 00:06:52,149 Speaker 2: dictatorial president, which I think is really what this is, 127 00:06:52,229 --> 00:06:56,389 Speaker 2: which I mean, this scares me, Miley. I don't think 128 00:06:56,429 --> 00:06:59,068 Speaker 2: i've ever particularly in America. I mean, we see this 129 00:06:59,149 --> 00:07:02,629 Speaker 2: in Europe. We see we see presidents and autocrats deploying 130 00:07:02,629 --> 00:07:05,749 Speaker 2: the military to put down rebellions and cups all over 131 00:07:05,789 --> 00:07:07,629 Speaker 2: the world, and that is often the beginning of the end. 132 00:07:07,709 --> 00:07:10,629 Speaker 2: So the fact that president of the United States is 133 00:07:10,629 --> 00:07:14,989 Speaker 2: doing this in his own country, in Los Angeles, that 134 00:07:15,069 --> 00:07:17,709 Speaker 2: scares me. And I just yeah, the fact they're shooting 135 00:07:17,709 --> 00:07:19,909 Speaker 2: the press, that's I hope you're doing all right. 136 00:07:20,149 --> 00:07:23,989 Speaker 4: I'm yeah, thank you, thank you. I mean, it is 137 00:07:24,589 --> 00:07:27,789 Speaker 4: definitely an interesting time to be a journalist in the 138 00:07:27,869 --> 00:07:28,789 Speaker 4: United States. 139 00:07:29,269 --> 00:07:33,829 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Okay, good luck, Miley. It's midnight in LA 140 00:07:34,029 --> 00:07:37,229 Speaker 1: right now, so hopefully you can get some sleep safely, 141 00:07:38,309 --> 00:07:41,349 Speaker 1: and we're just hoping here that it calms down. 142 00:07:41,509 --> 00:07:42,189 Speaker 2: Yeah. 143 00:07:42,229 --> 00:07:46,029 Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you, Thank you so much, Thanks so much. 144 00:07:45,949 --> 00:07:48,709 Speaker 2: For joining us. Smiley Hogan their seven years USA correspondent, 145 00:07:48,789 --> 00:07:51,109 Speaker 2: keeping subrested of what is going on in Los Angeles. 146 00:07:50,909 --> 00:07:54,669 Speaker 2: That scary stuff. Look, it might be controlled, it seems 147 00:07:54,669 --> 00:07:56,589 Speaker 2: like it is in downtown LA, but like he's just 148 00:07:56,629 --> 00:07:59,069 Speaker 2: there's I know, there's more protest planned for across the country. 149 00:07:59,069 --> 00:08:02,469 Speaker 2: In the next coming days. So America showing on paper 150 00:08:02,509 --> 00:08:05,309 Speaker 2: now that you know, ideologically it has been the most polarizing, 151 00:08:05,349 --> 00:08:07,349 Speaker 2: cut or polarized country in the world. We saw that 152 00:08:07,349 --> 00:08:11,949 Speaker 2: the elections, and now we might actually be seeing that. Yeah, 153 00:08:11,989 --> 00:08:14,629 Speaker 2: as I said, in flesh, which is just really scary 154 00:08:14,709 --> 00:08:15,389 Speaker 2: thought I reckon