WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: There's a scientific reason that men suck at finding things 0:00:10.379 --> 0:00:14.219 High Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss Podcast playlist and listen 0:00:14.259 --> 0:00:16.099 live on the Free iHeart app. 0:00:19.499 --> 0:00:22.218 Good Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn. 0:00:22.659 --> 0:00:26.979 Bady your work, our windows down, that's my world, reason 0:00:27.139 --> 0:00:32.178 the dust only good tabs all down. I've done much now, 0:00:32.619 --> 0:00:35.659 but yeah, I know I'll big get and what I want. 0:00:35.939 --> 0:00:38.858 It don't matter where. This is the pickup. 0:00:39.259 --> 0:00:41.699 Hi, guys, you're listening to the Pickup with Britt Hockey 0:00:41.819 --> 0:00:45.259 and Laura Burn. Happy Monday, Happy Monday? Is everyone still 0:00:45.259 --> 0:00:46.099 in school holidays? 0:00:46.219 --> 0:00:47.619 I don't know. I don't have kids. I don't know 0:00:47.619 --> 0:00:48.379 what ways up now? 0:00:48.819 --> 0:00:51.379 Some states have finished. I think it's Yeah, it's all 0:00:51.419 --> 0:00:52.458 different across Australia. 0:00:52.659 --> 0:00:55.299 So just to be clear, you ask the question and 0:00:55.339 --> 0:00:56.139 then answer the question. 0:00:56.179 --> 0:00:57.739 I think I forgot anyway. 0:00:57.899 --> 0:01:00.299 Look, hey, actually I did read something before we get 0:01:00.339 --> 0:01:02.139 into all of the really important things that are happening 0:01:02.139 --> 0:01:04.658 on this show. You know how people say that money 0:01:04.699 --> 0:01:08.298 doesn't buy happiness. Yeah, apparently that's a croc and a 0:01:08.739 --> 0:01:10.979 of bs and the reason for that. No, there was 0:01:11.019 --> 0:01:13.698 a psychology study that came out of more than five 0:01:13.899 --> 0:01:16.658 thousand millionaires and it found that people with more wealth 0:01:16.699 --> 0:01:19.179 are indeed happier in life. And also they found that 0:01:19.219 --> 0:01:22.658 people who hurt their money rather than inherited it are 0:01:22.699 --> 0:01:23.738 also more happy. 0:01:23.899 --> 0:01:24.859 That doesn't surprise me. 0:01:25.179 --> 0:01:27.298 Well, it makes life easy, I think why I. 0:01:27.219 --> 0:01:31.298 Think they're saying should be money doesn't guarantee happiness. Not 0:01:31.298 --> 0:01:33.859 it doesn't bring happiness, because we know it definitely can't. 0:01:34.179 --> 0:01:35.619 But it doesn't guarantee it. 0:01:35.619 --> 0:01:38.018 But don't they say you'd be rather be sad on 0:01:38.059 --> 0:01:39.059 a yacht than Yeah? 0:01:39.098 --> 0:01:39.338 Whatever. 0:01:39.339 --> 0:01:40.539 I don't know what the quotes is. 0:01:40.738 --> 0:01:46.499 Sorry, I need to talk to you about something that 0:01:46.539 --> 0:01:48.299 has been plaguing my relationship. 0:01:48.579 --> 0:01:51.698 Well, lucky we are together now on a radio show then. 0:01:51.579 --> 0:01:54.459 We talked, oh my god, what are you doing about? 0:01:54.659 --> 0:01:57.099 So we've all heard of like the man look cute. 0:01:57.139 --> 0:01:59.419 We all make jokes about it, men who can't find 0:01:59.459 --> 0:02:00.659 things in the house. 0:02:00.699 --> 0:02:01.819 Like you've had a man's look. 0:02:01.899 --> 0:02:02.939 Yeah, you've had a man's look. 0:02:03.059 --> 0:02:05.059 You know, you tell someone exactly where it is and 0:02:05.099 --> 0:02:07.139 then they can't find it. And it's the quote is 0:02:07.219 --> 0:02:10.419 it's a man's look. This has become a real point 0:02:10.419 --> 0:02:13.459 of contention in my relationship with Matt, and I don't 0:02:13.459 --> 0:02:16.859 know whether it's getting progressively worse, whether he's I don't know, 0:02:16.899 --> 0:02:19.539 maybe the testosterone is increasing in him and therefore he 0:02:19.619 --> 0:02:21.858 just can't find things anymore. But it is something that 0:02:21.939 --> 0:02:25.538 we deal with frequently, to the point where I feel 0:02:25.538 --> 0:02:28.179 as though I could not be more specific about where 0:02:28.219 --> 0:02:31.539 I tell him something is, and he will walk downstairs, 0:02:32.059 --> 0:02:34.419 wander around looking at the ceiling, and then say, oh, 0:02:34.459 --> 0:02:36.219 I can't find it, can't find it. 0:02:36.219 --> 0:02:38.978 It must be bad too, because you're bad. So if he's, 0:02:39.019 --> 0:02:41.979 if he's worse than you like, because in our relationship, 0:02:41.978 --> 0:02:43.499 you're like, have you seen my such and such? And 0:02:43.538 --> 0:02:46.259 if you're guiding him, then, like the both of you, 0:02:46.538 --> 0:02:48.179 it's there's problems. 0:02:48.258 --> 0:02:49.539 Yeah, where are our kids? 0:02:49.619 --> 0:02:51.178 Has anyone seen how many kids we have? 0:02:51.619 --> 0:02:51.698 I do? 0:02:52.019 --> 0:02:54.339 That's why we're having another one. Just replace him because 0:02:54.339 --> 0:02:56.379 you've lost the other one. She'll show up. 0:02:56.379 --> 0:02:58.659 She's under lowed, no speaking, Okay, so we're putting us 0:02:58.659 --> 0:03:00.419 puting lot. The girls to bed the other night, and 0:03:00.538 --> 0:03:02.699 Lola specifically has a drink bottle, you know that she 0:03:02.779 --> 0:03:04.419 has in bed with her when she goes to sleep. 0:03:04.459 --> 0:03:07.499 They both do, but they're usually always in their beds. Anyway, 0:03:07.538 --> 0:03:09.859 I'd brought them downstairs and I had washed them, and 0:03:09.939 --> 0:03:11.939 so i'd put them away instead of taking them back 0:03:11.978 --> 0:03:13.579 upstairs and just putting them next to their bed. I 0:03:13.579 --> 0:03:15.779 called out to Matt and I was like, babe, can 0:03:15.779 --> 0:03:16.978 you get Lola's drink bottle. 0:03:17.538 --> 0:03:19.618 He's like I can't find it. And I was like, okay, 0:03:19.659 --> 0:03:20.259 wells as. 0:03:20.179 --> 0:03:22.739 He sits on the lounge literally literally, and I was like, 0:03:22.779 --> 0:03:25.459 it's in the cupboard where the drink bottles are. 0:03:25.499 --> 0:03:26.939 We have this one cupboard in our house. 0:03:27.019 --> 0:03:29.499 Yeah, I know, because we have so many drink bottles. 0:03:29.538 --> 0:03:31.779 He's got a million drink bottles for his body, protein 0:03:31.859 --> 0:03:32.579 shakes or everything. 0:03:32.619 --> 0:03:35.179 Anyway, it's just full of drink bottles, nothing else. 0:03:35.379 --> 0:03:36.739 Yeah, everyone has that cupboard. 0:03:36.819 --> 0:03:38.699 And I was like, it's in the drink bottle cupboard. 0:03:39.339 --> 0:03:42.619 I hear nothing for a second, can't find it. And 0:03:42.659 --> 0:03:44.059 I was like, okay, well, why don't you just grab 0:03:44.099 --> 0:03:46.019 one of the other drinks it is in there, grab 0:03:46.059 --> 0:03:48.059 one of the other drink bottles. I know that there's 0:03:48.099 --> 0:03:51.099 five kid appropriate drink bottles in there. No, there's no 0:03:51.179 --> 0:03:53.539 drink bottles in here. And I was like, I'm sorry, 0:03:53.579 --> 0:03:55.659 are you telling me that there is not a single 0:03:55.739 --> 0:03:56.539 drink bottle. 0:03:56.339 --> 0:03:57.539 In the drink bottle in a. 0:03:57.579 --> 0:04:00.499 Drink bottle cupboard, which I just restocked, and he was like, yeah, 0:04:00.539 --> 0:04:01.139 can't find it. 0:04:01.219 --> 0:04:03.459 Okay. I was like, and this is just what you do, right, 0:04:03.499 --> 0:04:03.659 you go? 0:04:03.699 --> 0:04:06.779 If I walk downstairs, you know it's bad, child, But 0:04:06.819 --> 0:04:08.139 you know it's bad if you start with. 0:04:08.219 --> 0:04:11.779 May so I do. I walk downstairs, open the drink 0:04:11.819 --> 0:04:14.699 bottle cupboard full to the brim of drink bottles, right 0:04:14.739 --> 0:04:16.659 in front of five kids drink bottles. My husband turns 0:04:16.659 --> 0:04:18.178 around and says to me, oh, I didn't know they 0:04:18.219 --> 0:04:20.859 were in that cupboard. Sorry, you've lived in the house 0:04:20.899 --> 0:04:23.979 for two years. We mutually live in this house. This 0:04:24.019 --> 0:04:26.579 is the cupboard that has always held all of that. 0:04:26.899 --> 0:04:29.179 And now I realize the reason why he keeps buying 0:04:29.219 --> 0:04:32.219 more friggin drink bottles is because he didn't know that. 0:04:32.259 --> 0:04:33.899 He thought he was losing them, and he didn't realize 0:04:33.939 --> 0:04:34.939 they were just going into a cupboard. 0:04:34.979 --> 0:04:36.699 I'm sorry. You don't live in the Royal Palace. The 0:04:36.779 --> 0:04:37.819 kitchen's not that big. 0:04:37.859 --> 0:04:38.819 He could have figured it out. 0:04:38.859 --> 0:04:41.019 I know I'm calling it. I'm going to use the 0:04:41.139 --> 0:04:43.059 term weaponized in competence. 0:04:43.099 --> 0:04:45.459 Okay, Well, I mean, let's not let's not sorry big 0:04:45.579 --> 0:04:47.539 terms around that some people might not know the meaning to. 0:04:47.579 --> 0:04:49.419 You can tell what I've learned something new, I will 0:04:49.539 --> 0:04:49.899 drop it. 0:04:50.619 --> 0:04:52.619 Matt said, You know, I might have had a man's look. 0:04:52.659 --> 0:04:54.379 He's like, but I really try this time. I thought 0:04:54.419 --> 0:04:55.579 I was looking in the right cupboard. 0:04:55.699 --> 0:04:56.939 Rubbish. And I think that. 0:04:56.899 --> 0:04:59.179 There has to be more to this, because it can't 0:04:59.219 --> 0:05:00.659 just be weaponized in competence. 0:05:00.739 --> 0:05:01.419 Men out there. 0:05:01.739 --> 0:05:04.899 Surely they're just as capable at looking for things as 0:05:04.939 --> 0:05:06.019 their female counterpart. 0:05:06.139 --> 0:05:08.339 Oh, they're lazy and they're not as smart. 0:05:08.579 --> 0:05:12.139 It's all the men in the car turning over to 0:05:12.179 --> 0:05:12.579 listen to. 0:05:12.699 --> 0:05:14.339 I don't know who else is on the afternoons. 0:05:14.539 --> 0:05:17.499 No, okay, look, there's minimal research on this topic, which 0:05:17.539 --> 0:05:19.299 might come as a surprise, But there is a theory. 0:05:19.299 --> 0:05:22.139 It's called the hunter gatherer hypothesis. So this is what 0:05:22.179 --> 0:05:27.459 it says. Some researchers suggest that men inherently struggle to 0:05:27.499 --> 0:05:31.339 find things more than women. However, some researchers suggest that 0:05:31.419 --> 0:05:35.539 men's brains might be more adept at identifying distant, rapidly 0:05:35.619 --> 0:05:39.019 moving objects like prey, while women's brains are better at 0:05:39.099 --> 0:05:43.539 recognizing nearby static objects like berries and household items. 0:05:43.579 --> 0:05:44.259 Whatever. 0:05:44.619 --> 0:05:48.179 Because we have lost me at prey, do you murner out? 0:05:48.179 --> 0:05:50.619 They're catching balls and women are catching drink bottles. 0:05:50.659 --> 0:05:52.859 I mean that's literally what my husband does is gold 0:05:52.939 --> 0:05:54.299 key by catches balls. 0:05:55.339 --> 0:05:57.139 Okay, here's my first thought. 0:05:57.899 --> 0:06:00.579 Why the hell are we doing research studies on why 0:06:00.699 --> 0:06:03.459 men can't find stuff when we haven't done them on endometriosis, 0:06:03.459 --> 0:06:05.379 we haven't done them on menopause, we haven't done them 0:06:05.379 --> 0:06:06.299 most I'm all for this. 0:06:06.539 --> 0:06:09.619 I think the studies need to be done. Come back 0:06:09.659 --> 0:06:11.139 to me, come back to me. 0:06:11.339 --> 0:06:13.739 We've done research on metapause that we could talk about 0:06:13.739 --> 0:06:14.899 why men can't find stuff. 0:06:15.019 --> 0:06:17.299 I mean, we've made this very heterosexual. But what about 0:06:17.299 --> 0:06:18.779 if you're in a same sex What if it's two 0:06:18.859 --> 0:06:21.419 men they never find anything but grace. You're in a 0:06:21.459 --> 0:06:23.819 same sex relationship, surely there's someone in your household who 0:06:23.819 --> 0:06:24.618 just can't find anything. 0:06:24.699 --> 0:06:24.899 Yeah. 0:06:24.939 --> 0:06:27.379 I suck at looking for things, and my partner's like, 0:06:27.419 --> 0:06:30.738 if I find it in three seconds, I'll be so mad. 0:06:31.299 --> 0:06:33.699 That's an empty threat, because you know you are mad. Nah, 0:06:33.779 --> 0:06:35.339 but you win them over, and I know you would 0:06:35.379 --> 0:06:36.339 to you about your eyelids. 0:06:36.379 --> 0:06:41.619 I'm very lovable, self proclaimed anyway, all. 0:06:41.579 --> 0:06:43.139 Right, what I'm about to tell you all is going 0:06:43.219 --> 0:06:46.219 to make you feel gross, Your skin is going to crawl, 0:06:46.379 --> 0:06:48.699 you are going to maybe want to burn your house down. 0:06:48.819 --> 0:06:49.379 Don't do that. 0:06:50.139 --> 0:06:53.219 There is a doctor that has come out and revealed. 0:06:52.939 --> 0:06:57.259 The everyday household items that are dirtier than your toilet seat. 0:06:57.299 --> 0:06:59.939 And now this article is being red and shared so 0:07:00.019 --> 0:07:01.739 many times, but I'm pretty sure it's because of how 0:07:01.739 --> 0:07:03.859 hot the doctor is, which has nothing to do with it. 0:07:04.099 --> 0:07:07.259 But I'm going to get a bit sciensy here for 0:07:07.339 --> 0:07:10.139 a minute. He talks abut about these things in units 0:07:10.179 --> 0:07:14.099 of c f us, which is colony forming units. Now, 0:07:14.139 --> 0:07:16.299 that is how they see how dirty something is. It's 0:07:16.379 --> 0:07:20.059 bacteria per square inch. Before we get into a list though, 0:07:20.139 --> 0:07:21.019 and rattle that off. 0:07:21.739 --> 0:07:24.179 The only thing that I have been told that's more 0:07:24.299 --> 0:07:27.059 dirty than a toilet is money. That's like have you 0:07:27.099 --> 0:07:30.019 heard that old wives tail? That's money that ever lives 0:07:30.059 --> 0:07:33.779 tale Every single dollar coin or like coins or notes 0:07:33.819 --> 0:07:35.619 or whatever have actual poop particles on them. 0:07:35.619 --> 0:07:37.699 Well, I've also heard, if I've got a few other ones, 0:07:38.299 --> 0:07:41.099 the door handle of the toilet is the worst than 0:07:41.139 --> 0:07:41.499 the truth. 0:07:42.819 --> 0:07:45.419 You don't wash your hands, what touches the toilet seat? Guy? 0:07:45.579 --> 0:07:49.579 Maybe okay, don't answer that. My brain was going on. 0:07:49.699 --> 0:07:51.859 Und depends on if a man is sat down to 0:07:51.859 --> 0:07:53.539 do a pooh, because then it's more things to touch 0:07:53.539 --> 0:07:54.059 on the toilet seat. 0:07:54.139 --> 0:07:54.459 Usually. 0:07:54.499 --> 0:07:58.139 I've also heard a rumor that toilet. 0:07:57.859 --> 0:08:00.979 Yes, you've got to tuck it in my Okay, my 0:08:01.099 --> 0:08:07.179 husband talking into this show, he'll be thrilled. 0:08:07.299 --> 0:08:10.579 Okay, let's get back and try so to give you context, 0:08:10.579 --> 0:08:12.939 because we want to base it off this. A toilet 0:08:13.059 --> 0:08:18.299 seat has fifty cfuskenty forming units. That's the bacteria. So 0:08:18.339 --> 0:08:22.179 we're going with fifty bits of bacteria. Now, listen to this. 0:08:22.659 --> 0:08:25.419 A TV remote you sit down at night, one hand 0:08:25.419 --> 0:08:28.139 in the popcorn, then you touch the TV remote that 0:08:28.179 --> 0:08:33.059 has five thousand CFUs, So that's one hundred times dirtier 0:08:33.259 --> 0:08:34.219 than your toilet seat. 0:08:34.299 --> 0:08:34.899 And it's discussing. 0:08:34.899 --> 0:08:35.859 Okay, you think that's bad. 0:08:35.979 --> 0:08:39.858 No, strap in cutting board can have up to ten 0:08:40.099 --> 0:08:44.779 thousand CFUs. That makes it two hundred times dirty. 0:08:45.099 --> 0:08:46.419 I can believe this one though. 0:08:46.419 --> 0:08:48.458 And I also wonder, is like plastic chopping boards or 0:08:48.499 --> 0:08:52.299 wooden chopping boards worse, because wouldn't it can't be good? 0:08:52.619 --> 0:08:54.179 Wooden harbor is more bacteria. 0:08:54.259 --> 0:08:56.218 Of course, it's soaksen and then just sits in there, 0:08:56.219 --> 0:08:57.739 and then every so often you give it a bit 0:08:57.779 --> 0:09:00.259 of a wash, and there's your chicken for three days. 0:09:00.379 --> 0:09:02.659 This one I feel like we know, but this is discussing. 0:09:02.739 --> 0:09:04.659 It makes me want to go get some bacterial wipes 0:09:04.659 --> 0:09:07.419 and wipe it down now. But your mobile phone twenty 0:09:07.459 --> 0:09:08.619 five thousand cf. 0:09:08.659 --> 0:09:14.419 You poos surely, surely though, your mobile phone is only 0:09:14.459 --> 0:09:16.939 dirtier if you're someone who doesn't wash your hands, because 0:09:17.139 --> 0:09:19.899 if you're the only person handling your phone, it's because 0:09:19.899 --> 0:09:22.059 it's everywhere other people put their hand on a surface, 0:09:22.059 --> 0:09:23.739 the phone goes on the surface, then it goes onto 0:09:23.779 --> 0:09:25.859 your hand. It's like it transfers off every But then 0:09:25.939 --> 0:09:27.979 your hands would have more dirt on them than a 0:09:28.019 --> 0:09:29.339 toilet seat because they're touching. 0:09:29.419 --> 0:09:30.339 It's your hands they do. 0:09:30.419 --> 0:09:31.899 I don't have the Poohs stats on that one, But 0:09:31.939 --> 0:09:33.578 then your hands, God forbid. 0:09:33.339 --> 0:09:35.619 Let's stick around. That's going to be our next week's show. 0:09:35.779 --> 0:09:37.458 But do you want to know what the two highest 0:09:37.499 --> 0:09:38.059 ones were? 0:09:38.979 --> 0:09:42.619 A pillowcase If you're not washing your pillowcase weekly, which 0:09:43.219 --> 0:09:45.139 I reckon most people listening, I don't think people are 0:09:45.139 --> 0:09:46.939 doing it weekly, maybe bi weekly. 0:09:46.659 --> 0:09:47.819 Like bi weekly is twice. 0:09:49.019 --> 0:09:50.899 I mean fortunately, yeah, thank you for that. 0:09:51.059 --> 0:09:53.259 Bi weekly you're killing it. Bi weekly, You're good. But 0:09:53.419 --> 0:09:56.179 a pillow case if left unwashed for one week, three 0:09:56.219 --> 0:10:00.259 million poos and then if we move on to the killer, 0:10:00.739 --> 0:10:02.419 the number one. So you need to go home and 0:10:02.419 --> 0:10:05.779 throw these out. Single use your kitchen sponge. What you 0:10:05.819 --> 0:10:08.219 think you were wiping bacteria with to clean it is 0:10:08.219 --> 0:10:09.379 actually spreading it. 0:10:09.539 --> 0:10:11.059 Ten millions sea if you poos? 0:10:11.139 --> 0:10:11.579 Do you know what? 0:10:11.659 --> 0:10:14.339 Though, I listened to this and yeah, look horror terrorizing. 0:10:14.579 --> 0:10:17.579 I'm so scattered the germs. I'm not a very germy. 0:10:17.219 --> 0:10:19.739 Person, as in, like, I don't care about germs as 0:10:19.819 --> 0:10:20.338 much as we do. 0:10:20.379 --> 0:10:23.139 You sick every week, but I'm not sick. That's my point. 0:10:23.219 --> 0:10:26.619 My point is is that I think you need germs 0:10:26.659 --> 0:10:28.338 to be able to have some sort of immunity. I 0:10:28.619 --> 0:10:31.299 have been ten thousand poop particles. No, but I think 0:10:31.339 --> 0:10:33.979 we worry a bit too much about germs. Like I'm 0:10:33.979 --> 0:10:35.979 the mom that when I drop back in the day, 0:10:35.979 --> 0:10:39.019 my kids are not with dummies anymore, but dummy drops. 0:10:38.739 --> 0:10:40.819 On the ground, Pick up the dummy, wipe it on. 0:10:40.779 --> 0:10:42.899 Your shirt, shove it back, and the kid she's fine. 0:10:42.939 --> 0:10:44.499 I look I eat off the floor all the time. 0:10:44.579 --> 0:10:45.059 It's fine. 0:10:45.219 --> 0:10:47.659 I'm not a germy person. I worked in a hospital 0:10:47.699 --> 0:10:49.699 for thirteen years. I have picked up everything, and I 0:10:49.739 --> 0:10:53.059 have a really great immunity. But there's something about knowing 0:10:53.259 --> 0:10:56.059 that you are spreading ten thousand poops seaf yous across 0:10:56.099 --> 0:10:57.179 your bench when you're wiping it. 0:10:57.179 --> 0:10:57.979 That's just not cool. 0:10:58.019 --> 0:10:59.699 I think there's some things we need to learn from it. 0:11:00.139 --> 0:11:03.379 I think, no, throw it out. I agree. And just 0:11:03.379 --> 0:11:05.139 because it's soap doesn't mean it's clean. 0:11:05.259 --> 0:11:06.099 I will never. 0:11:05.979 --> 0:11:09.139 Forget just because it's cold. I mean, raining doesn't mean no. 0:11:09.299 --> 0:11:10.059 I will never. 0:11:09.939 --> 0:11:12.739 Forget being in a public toilet once I was like 0:11:12.779 --> 0:11:15.139 maybe thirteen years old. It's a memory that stuck with 0:11:15.179 --> 0:11:17.499 me forever. And I went to wash my hand. There 0:11:17.539 --> 0:11:19.019 was a bar It was a bar soap that was 0:11:19.059 --> 0:11:20.739 sitting in this public toilet. You know when the bar 0:11:20.859 --> 0:11:23.299 soap's like old and dried, and it's got like the 0:11:23.379 --> 0:11:25.659 crack in it, and it's it's just got the cracks 0:11:25.659 --> 0:11:27.299 in it because it's so dry, and the cracks are 0:11:27.339 --> 0:11:29.179 kind of like black in between the cracks. The soap 0:11:29.259 --> 0:11:31.459 was there. This old lady was in the in the 0:11:31.459 --> 0:11:33.459 bathroom she was washing her hands as well, and she 0:11:33.539 --> 0:11:35.139 was just with water. And she turned around to me 0:11:35.179 --> 0:11:37.578 as I went to reach it, and she goes, Darling. 0:11:38.019 --> 0:11:41.099 Just because it's soap doesn't make it clean. 0:11:41.299 --> 0:11:41.779 It's true. 0:11:41.819 --> 0:11:43.179 And I looked at that soap and I was like, 0:11:43.219 --> 0:11:45.379 I'm gonna that's a wise, wise woman right there. 0:11:45.419 --> 0:11:46.739 And I've kept that lesson my whole life. 0:11:46.819 --> 0:11:50.419 But say, and I kept that soap, I've still got it. 0:11:52.539 --> 0:11:55.779 There's a woman named Frankie. She's a TikToker, thirty five 0:11:55.859 --> 0:11:59.179 thousand followers. She posts a lot, but she's heavily pregnant, 0:11:59.299 --> 0:12:02.739 and she's posted a video that's gone bonkers started a 0:12:02.739 --> 0:12:06.219 pretty heated debate online. She recently was on a train 0:12:06.419 --> 0:12:09.299 that was absolutely packed to the brim, like people sitting everywhere, 0:12:09.339 --> 0:12:11.299 people standing in the middle of the train, and she 0:12:11.419 --> 0:12:14.659 herself was standing. In this video, she's sort of filmed 0:12:14.659 --> 0:12:18.499 herself standing up, heavily pregnant, filmed around, shown everyone sitting down, 0:12:18.619 --> 0:12:22.139 and she just said chivalry for pregnant women doesn't exist anymore. 0:12:22.219 --> 0:12:24.899 I still can't believe not one person. 0:12:24.659 --> 0:12:27.579 Even offered, as in even offered to stand up so 0:12:27.619 --> 0:12:28.779 she could sit down, which the. 0:12:28.779 --> 0:12:31.339 Ridiculous thing about this is like usually on trains there's 0:12:31.419 --> 0:12:34.099 usually a separate part of seats which are for people 0:12:34.099 --> 0:12:37.179 who are have you no poor mobility or needs assistance 0:12:37.259 --> 0:12:38.859 or whatever, like, there's seats there that people know to 0:12:38.859 --> 0:12:39.379 get up from. 0:12:39.499 --> 0:12:41.579 Yeah, And I think about when I. 0:12:41.139 --> 0:12:44.739 Grew up, it was always taught if I was ever 0:12:44.779 --> 0:12:46.779 in a position like that, that you would always stand 0:12:46.859 --> 0:12:50.699 up and offer your seat to elderly, somebody disadvantaged or 0:12:50.739 --> 0:12:53.019 pregnant women like that was just what I learned as 0:12:53.019 --> 0:12:55.219 a child, and I thought that was a really standard thing. 0:12:55.619 --> 0:12:59.379 But some of the comments in this TikTok are so disgusting. 0:12:59.419 --> 0:13:02.059 I want to read you a few Why is your 0:13:02.099 --> 0:13:06.019 pregnancy anyone else's issue? Why is your pregnancy my problem? 0:13:06.179 --> 0:13:09.299 I hate this societal expectation. I mean, it was your 0:13:09.379 --> 0:13:12.379 choice to get pregnant, not theirs. Hey, you wanted a quality, 0:13:12.459 --> 0:13:14.179 you got equality, y'all. 0:13:14.299 --> 0:13:16.619 They're American. I'm sorry I really went. 0:13:16.499 --> 0:13:18.219 Into that, y'all. 0:13:18.339 --> 0:13:20.739 What is with that I'm a mother, I'm more important 0:13:20.739 --> 0:13:23.379 than you bowed down to me? Attitude and things like 0:13:23.419 --> 0:13:25.659 I don't care that you're pregnant. I care that I've 0:13:25.699 --> 0:13:28.299 had a long day, my back end feet hurt, blah 0:13:28.339 --> 0:13:30.499 blah blah, like this is just the theme that was 0:13:30.539 --> 0:13:33.699 on this TikTok, and I was actually disgusting, you know what. 0:13:33.739 --> 0:13:36.019 Look I mean, I had something happened to me when 0:13:36.099 --> 0:13:38.059 I had Lola. She was only little and she was 0:13:38.059 --> 0:13:40.299 in the car. It was Christmas time. We were going 0:13:40.339 --> 0:13:42.578 into the shopping center. And you know how like in 0:13:42.739 --> 0:13:45.339 Big West Fields they always have like the pram sections. 0:13:45.379 --> 0:13:46.899 So but that's not even Big Westfields. 0:13:46.979 --> 0:13:49.739 Every shopping center now, even the little ones have like 0:13:49.859 --> 0:13:50.699 parking with prams. 0:13:50.779 --> 0:13:51.859 Yes, so it's parking prams. 0:13:51.899 --> 0:13:53.619 It's just an area where you can, you know, easy 0:13:53.699 --> 0:13:56.459 duck in if you're a mom. Anyway, it was Christmas time, 0:13:56.579 --> 0:13:59.139 it was hell busy, and I had already had my indicator, 0:13:59.179 --> 0:14:01.299 and I was waiting to go into this parking spot 0:14:01.299 --> 0:14:04.819 which was right in the prams. And as I was 0:14:04.819 --> 0:14:06.859 waiting to go into the parking spot, someone else had 0:14:06.899 --> 0:14:09.219 pulled up, so they kind of blocked me from going in, 0:14:09.619 --> 0:14:11.859 which meant that this woman took advantage of it, and 0:14:11.899 --> 0:14:14.059 she's snuck in and took my space. Didn't have a kid, 0:14:14.659 --> 0:14:16.379 took my space, and I wound down my window and 0:14:16.419 --> 0:14:18.499 I was like, dude, come on, I've got a baby 0:14:18.499 --> 0:14:20.259 in the car. She's been screaming for twenty minutes. We've 0:14:20.259 --> 0:14:22.579 been driving around this car park. And she yelled out 0:14:22.619 --> 0:14:25.139 the window, it's your choice. You decided to have kids. 0:14:25.819 --> 0:14:31.819 That grimes my geeze Like I would have been absolutely furious. 0:14:31.859 --> 0:14:32.339 Oh I did. 0:14:32.379 --> 0:14:34.939 I was like, I wish your mother didn't have any kids. 0:14:35.059 --> 0:14:36.259 And then I was like, oh my god, I need 0:14:36.299 --> 0:14:36.659 to stop. 0:14:37.299 --> 0:14:38.859 This happened to my sister recently. 0:14:38.939 --> 0:14:41.659 So I was over visiting my fiance in Italy a 0:14:41.699 --> 0:14:43.659 couple of weeks ago, and my sister was. 0:14:43.579 --> 0:14:44.339 Overseas as well. 0:14:44.339 --> 0:14:46.459 She's got a at the time, like six month old baby, 0:14:47.019 --> 0:14:49.499 and my sister was on the train, had to travel 0:14:49.499 --> 0:14:51.419 two and a half hours to where we were. The 0:14:51.539 --> 0:14:55.659 train was packed like sardines, right, and so Sherry's standing 0:14:55.699 --> 0:14:57.779 up holding this baby because there's no room to put 0:14:57.779 --> 0:14:59.939 her in a pram for two and a half hours. Fine, 0:15:00.139 --> 0:15:02.939 not fine, well no, but Sherry, that's what Sherry said. 0:15:02.939 --> 0:15:03.579 Write her words. 0:15:03.619 --> 0:15:05.499 She's like, fine, I get it. Did I choose to 0:15:05.539 --> 0:15:07.339 have a baby. Yeah, I'm happy to stand up. I'm 0:15:07.339 --> 0:15:08.459 not going to ask anyone to sit down. 0:15:08.739 --> 0:15:09.059 Whatever. 0:15:09.579 --> 0:15:12.619 But then she had to breastfeed. No one moved, no 0:15:12.699 --> 0:15:15.619 one offered. I've seen the pictures. She's sitting on the 0:15:15.699 --> 0:15:19.059 ground in a corner with all these men standing over 0:15:19.099 --> 0:15:21.099 a bit, not for any other reason. Then at Sardine's right, 0:15:21.139 --> 0:15:23.379 it's just packed standing over a while she's trying to 0:15:23.419 --> 0:15:26.379 breastfeed a baby and protect it from being like bumped 0:15:26.379 --> 0:15:29.499 by luggage and bumped by people. And she's like, people 0:15:29.499 --> 0:15:32.619 were looking at me on the ground in my situation, 0:15:32.699 --> 0:15:35.899 and not one person offered. And I found that so sad, 0:15:35.979 --> 0:15:37.379 And she was like, I didn't want them to give 0:15:37.459 --> 0:15:39.419 up my seat for the rest of the trip. I'd 0:15:39.419 --> 0:15:41.779 obviously been standing for an hour. I just wanted somewhere 0:15:41.819 --> 0:15:44.019 safe to breastfeed for ten minutes. Then I would have 0:15:44.059 --> 0:15:46.179 gotten back up, but everyone just looked at her blatantly 0:15:46.179 --> 0:15:47.819 the I and looked away, And I thought, what kind 0:15:47.859 --> 0:15:50.059 of a world of we living in where there is 0:15:50.099 --> 0:15:52.219 not one person on that train that would see someone 0:15:52.219 --> 0:15:54.539 in a more vulnerable position and offered to help. 0:15:54.739 --> 0:15:56.939 I mean, and also we can sit here and be like, yes, 0:15:57.019 --> 0:15:59.099 of course, someone decides to have kids. 0:15:59.339 --> 0:16:01.339