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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, you're listening to the Pickup with Britt Hockey
Speaker 1: and Laura Burn. Happy Monday, Happy Monday? Is everyone still
Speaker 1: in school holidays?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't have kids. I don't know
Speaker 4: what ways up now?
Speaker 1: Some states have finished. I think it's Yeah, it's all
Speaker 1: different across Australia.
Speaker 4: So just to be clear, you ask the question and
Speaker 4: then answer the question.
Speaker 2: I think I forgot anyway.
Speaker 1: Look, hey, actually I did read something before we get
Speaker 1: into all of the really important things that are happening
Speaker 1: on this show. You know how people say that money
Speaker 1: doesn't buy happiness. Yeah, apparently that's a croc and a
Speaker 1: of bs and the reason for that. No, there was
Speaker 1: a psychology study that came out of more than five
Speaker 1: thousand millionaires and it found that people with more wealth
Speaker 1: are indeed happier in life. And also they found that
Speaker 1: people who hurt their money rather than inherited it are
Speaker 1: also more happy.
Speaker 4: That doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 2: Well, it makes life easy, I think why I.
Speaker 5: Think they're saying should be money doesn't guarantee happiness. Not
Speaker 5: it doesn't bring happiness, because we know it definitely can't.
Speaker 4: But it doesn't guarantee it.
Speaker 1: But don't they say you'd be rather be sad on
Speaker 1: a yacht than Yeah?
Speaker 4: Whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the quotes is.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I need to talk to you about something that
Speaker 1: has been plaguing my relationship.
Speaker 5: Well, lucky we are together now on a radio show then.
Speaker 4: We talked, oh my god, what are you doing about?
Speaker 1: So we've all heard of like the man look cute.
Speaker 1: We all make jokes about it, men who can't find
Speaker 1: things in the house.
Speaker 4: Like you've had a man's look.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've had a man's look.
Speaker 1: You know, you tell someone exactly where it is and
Speaker 1: then they can't find it. And it's the quote is
Speaker 1: it's a man's look. This has become a real point
Speaker 1: of contention in my relationship with Matt, and I don't
Speaker 1: know whether it's getting progressively worse, whether he's I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe the testosterone is increasing in him and therefore he
Speaker 1: just can't find things anymore. But it is something that
Speaker 1: we deal with frequently, to the point where I feel
Speaker 1: as though I could not be more specific about where
Speaker 1: I tell him something is, and he will walk downstairs,
Speaker 1: wander around looking at the ceiling, and then say, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't find it, can't find it.
Speaker 5: It must be bad too, because you're bad. So if he's,
Speaker 5: if he's worse than you like, because in our relationship,
Speaker 5: you're like, have you seen my such and such? And
Speaker 5: if you're guiding him, then, like the both of you,
Speaker 5: it's there's problems.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where are our kids?
Speaker 4: Has anyone seen how many kids we have?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 2: That's why we're having another one. Just replace him because
Speaker 2: you've lost the other one. She'll show up.
Speaker 1: She's under lowed, no speaking, Okay, so we're putting us
Speaker 1: puting lot. The girls to bed the other night, and
Speaker 1: Lola specifically has a drink bottle, you know that she
Speaker 1: has in bed with her when she goes to sleep.
Speaker 1: They both do, but they're usually always in their beds. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'd brought them downstairs and I had washed them, and
Speaker 1: so i'd put them away instead of taking them back
Speaker 1: upstairs and just putting them next to their bed. I
Speaker 1: called out to Matt and I was like, babe, can
Speaker 1: you get Lola's drink bottle.
Speaker 2: He's like I can't find it. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: wells as.
Speaker 1: He sits on the lounge literally literally, and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's in the cupboard where the drink bottles are.
Speaker 2: We have this one cupboard in our house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, because we have so many drink bottles.
Speaker 1: He's got a million drink bottles for his body, protein
Speaker 1: shakes or everything.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's just full of drink bottles, nothing else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone has that cupboard.
Speaker 1: And I was like, it's in the drink bottle cupboard.
Speaker 1: I hear nothing for a second, can't find it. And
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well, why don't you just grab
Speaker 1: one of the other drinks it is in there, grab
Speaker 1: one of the other drink bottles. I know that there's
Speaker 1: five kid appropriate drink bottles in there. No, there's no
Speaker 1: drink bottles in here. And I was like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: are you telling me that there is not a single
Speaker 1: drink bottle.
Speaker 4: In the drink bottle in a.
Speaker 1: Drink bottle cupboard, which I just restocked, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: can't find it.
Speaker 2: Okay. I was like, and this is just what you do, right,
Speaker 2: you go?
Speaker 5: If I walk downstairs, you know it's bad, child, But
Speaker 5: you know it's bad if you start with.
Speaker 1: May so I do. I walk downstairs, open the drink
Speaker 1: bottle cupboard full to the brim of drink bottles, right
Speaker 1: in front of five kids drink bottles. My husband turns
Speaker 1: around and says to me, oh, I didn't know they
Speaker 1: were in that cupboard. Sorry, you've lived in the house
Speaker 1: for two years. We mutually live in this house. This
Speaker 1: is the cupboard that has always held all of that.
Speaker 1: And now I realize the reason why he keeps buying
Speaker 1: more friggin drink bottles is because he didn't know that.
Speaker 1: He thought he was losing them, and he didn't realize
Speaker 1: they were just going into a cupboard.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. You don't live in the Royal Palace. The
Speaker 4: kitchen's not that big.
Speaker 2: He could have figured it out.
Speaker 4: I know I'm calling it. I'm going to use the
Speaker 4: term weaponized in competence.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean, let's not let's not sorry big
Speaker 1: terms around that some people might not know the meaning to.
Speaker 4: You can tell what I've learned something new, I will
Speaker 4: drop it.
Speaker 1: Matt said, You know, I might have had a man's look.
Speaker 1: He's like, but I really try this time. I thought
Speaker 1: I was looking in the right cupboard.
Speaker 2: Rubbish. And I think that.
Speaker 1: There has to be more to this, because it can't
Speaker 1: just be weaponized in competence.
Speaker 2: Men out there.
Speaker 1: Surely they're just as capable at looking for things as
Speaker 1: their female counterpart.
Speaker 4: Oh, they're lazy and they're not as smart.
Speaker 1: It's all the men in the car turning over to
Speaker 1: listen to.
Speaker 2: I don't know who else is on the afternoons.
Speaker 1: No, okay, look, there's minimal research on this topic, which
Speaker 1: might come as a surprise, But there is a theory.
Speaker 1: It's called the hunter gatherer hypothesis. So this is what
Speaker 1: it says. Some researchers suggest that men inherently struggle to
Speaker 1: find things more than women. However, some researchers suggest that
Speaker 1: men's brains might be more adept at identifying distant, rapidly
Speaker 1: moving objects like prey, while women's brains are better at
Speaker 1: recognizing nearby static objects like berries and household items.
Speaker 4: Whatever.
Speaker 5: Because we have lost me at prey, do you murner out?
Speaker 1: They're catching balls and women are catching drink bottles.
Speaker 5: I mean that's literally what my husband does is gold
Speaker 5: key by catches balls.
Speaker 4: Okay, here's my first thought.
Speaker 5: Why the hell are we doing research studies on why
Speaker 5: men can't find stuff when we haven't done them on endometriosis,
Speaker 5: we haven't done them on menopause, we haven't done them
Speaker 5: most I'm all for this.
Speaker 2: I think the studies need to be done. Come back
Speaker 2: to me, come back to me.
Speaker 5: We've done research on metapause that we could talk about
Speaker 5: why men can't find stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've made this very heterosexual. But what about
Speaker 1: if you're in a same sex What if it's two
Speaker 1: men they never find anything but grace. You're in a
Speaker 1: same sex relationship, surely there's someone in your household who
Speaker 1: just can't find anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I suck at looking for things, and my partner's like,
Speaker 1: if I find it in three seconds, I'll be so mad.
Speaker 5: That's an empty threat, because you know you are mad. Nah,
Speaker 5: but you win them over, and I know you would
Speaker 5: to you about your eyelids.
Speaker 1: I'm very lovable, self proclaimed anyway, all.
Speaker 5: Right, what I'm about to tell you all is going
Speaker 5: to make you feel gross, Your skin is going to crawl,
Speaker 5: you are going to maybe want to burn your house down.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 4: There is a doctor that has come out and revealed.
Speaker 5: The everyday household items that are dirtier than your toilet seat.
Speaker 5: And now this article is being red and shared so
Speaker 5: many times, but I'm pretty sure it's because of how
Speaker 5: hot the doctor is, which has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 5: But I'm going to get a bit sciensy here for
Speaker 5: a minute. He talks abut about these things in units
Speaker 5: of c f us, which is colony forming units. Now,
Speaker 5: that is how they see how dirty something is. It's
Speaker 5: bacteria per square inch. Before we get into a list though,
Speaker 5: and rattle that off.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I have been told that's more
Speaker 1: dirty than a toilet is money. That's like have you
Speaker 1: heard that old wives tail? That's money that ever lives
Speaker 1: tale Every single dollar coin or like coins or notes
Speaker 1: or whatever have actual poop particles on them.
Speaker 5: Well, I've also heard, if I've got a few other ones,
Speaker 5: the door handle of the toilet is the worst than
Speaker 5: the truth.
Speaker 2: You don't wash your hands, what touches the toilet seat? Guy?
Speaker 4: Maybe okay, don't answer that. My brain was going on.
Speaker 1: Und depends on if a man is sat down to
Speaker 1: do a pooh, because then it's more things to touch
Speaker 1: on the toilet seat.
Speaker 2: Usually.
Speaker 4: I've also heard a rumor that toilet.
Speaker 1: Yes, you've got to tuck it in my Okay, my
Speaker 1: husband talking into this show, he'll be thrilled.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's get back and try so to give you context,
Speaker 5: because we want to base it off this. A toilet
Speaker 5: seat has fifty cfuskenty forming units. That's the bacteria. So
Speaker 5: we're going with fifty bits of bacteria. Now, listen to this.
Speaker 5: A TV remote you sit down at night, one hand
Speaker 5: in the popcorn, then you touch the TV remote that
Speaker 5: has five thousand CFUs, So that's one hundred times dirtier
Speaker 5: than your toilet seat.
Speaker 2: And it's discussing.
Speaker 4: Okay, you think that's bad.
Speaker 5: No, strap in cutting board can have up to ten
Speaker 5: thousand CFUs. That makes it two hundred times dirty.
Speaker 2: I can believe this one though.
Speaker 1: And I also wonder, is like plastic chopping boards or
Speaker 1: wooden chopping boards worse, because wouldn't it can't be good?
Speaker 4: Wooden harbor is more bacteria.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's soaksen and then just sits in there,
Speaker 1: and then every so often you give it a bit
Speaker 1: of a wash, and there's your chicken for three days.
Speaker 4: This one I feel like we know, but this is discussing.
Speaker 5: It makes me want to go get some bacterial wipes
Speaker 5: and wipe it down now. But your mobile phone twenty
Speaker 5: five thousand cf.
Speaker 1: You poos surely, surely though, your mobile phone is only
Speaker 1: dirtier if you're someone who doesn't wash your hands, because
Speaker 1: if you're the only person handling your phone, it's because
Speaker 1: it's everywhere other people put their hand on a surface,
Speaker 1: the phone goes on the surface, then it goes onto
Speaker 1: your hand. It's like it transfers off every But then
Speaker 1: your hands would have more dirt on them than a
Speaker 1: toilet seat because they're touching.
Speaker 2: It's your hands they do.
Speaker 5: I don't have the Poohs stats on that one, But
Speaker 5: then your hands, God forbid.
Speaker 2: Let's stick around. That's going to be our next week's show.
Speaker 4: But do you want to know what the two highest
Speaker 4: ones were?
Speaker 5: A pillowcase If you're not washing your pillowcase weekly, which
Speaker 5: I reckon most people listening, I don't think people are
Speaker 5: doing it weekly, maybe bi weekly.
Speaker 2: Like bi weekly is twice.
Speaker 4: I mean fortunately, yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 5: Bi weekly you're killing it. Bi weekly, You're good. But
Speaker 5: a pillow case if left unwashed for one week, three
Speaker 5: million poos and then if we move on to the killer,
Speaker 5: the number one. So you need to go home and
Speaker 5: throw these out. Single use your kitchen sponge. What you
Speaker 5: think you were wiping bacteria with to clean it is
Speaker 5: actually spreading it.
Speaker 4: Ten millions sea if you poos?
Speaker 2: Do you know what?
Speaker 1: Though, I listened to this and yeah, look horror terrorizing.
Speaker 2: I'm so scattered the germs. I'm not a very germy.
Speaker 1: Person, as in, like, I don't care about germs as
Speaker 1: much as we do.
Speaker 2: You sick every week, but I'm not sick. That's my point.
Speaker 1: My point is is that I think you need germs
Speaker 1: to be able to have some sort of immunity. I
Speaker 1: have been ten thousand poop particles. No, but I think
Speaker 1: we worry a bit too much about germs. Like I'm
Speaker 1: the mom that when I drop back in the day,
Speaker 1: my kids are not with dummies anymore, but dummy drops.
Speaker 2: On the ground, Pick up the dummy, wipe it on.
Speaker 1: Your shirt, shove it back, and the kid she's fine.
Speaker 4: I look I eat off the floor all the time.
Speaker 4: It's fine.
Speaker 5: I'm not a germy person. I worked in a hospital
Speaker 5: for thirteen years. I have picked up everything, and I
Speaker 5: have a really great immunity. But there's something about knowing
Speaker 5: that you are spreading ten thousand poops seaf yous across
Speaker 5: your bench when you're wiping it.
Speaker 4: That's just not cool.
Speaker 1: I think there's some things we need to learn from it.
Speaker 1: I think, no, throw it out. I agree. And just
Speaker 1: because it's soap doesn't mean it's clean.
Speaker 2: I will never.
Speaker 4: Forget just because it's cold. I mean, raining doesn't mean no.
Speaker 2: I will never.
Speaker 1: Forget being in a public toilet once I was like
Speaker 1: maybe thirteen years old. It's a memory that stuck with
Speaker 1: me forever. And I went to wash my hand. There
Speaker 1: was a bar It was a bar soap that was
Speaker 1: sitting in this public toilet. You know when the bar
Speaker 1: soap's like old and dried, and it's got like the
Speaker 1: crack in it, and it's it's just got the cracks
Speaker 1: in it because it's so dry, and the cracks are
Speaker 1: kind of like black in between the cracks. The soap
Speaker 1: was there. This old lady was in the in the
Speaker 1: bathroom she was washing her hands as well, and she
Speaker 1: was just with water. And she turned around to me
Speaker 1: as I went to reach it, and she goes, Darling.
Speaker 2: Just because it's soap doesn't make it clean.
Speaker 4: It's true.
Speaker 1: And I looked at that soap and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna that's a wise, wise woman right there.
Speaker 2: And I've kept that lesson my whole life.
Speaker 4: But say, and I kept that soap, I've still got it.
Speaker 5: There's a woman named Frankie. She's a TikToker, thirty five
Speaker 5: thousand followers. She posts a lot, but she's heavily pregnant,
Speaker 5: and she's posted a video that's gone bonkers started a
Speaker 5: pretty heated debate online. She recently was on a train
Speaker 5: that was absolutely packed to the brim, like people sitting everywhere,
Speaker 5: people standing in the middle of the train, and she
Speaker 5: herself was standing. In this video, she's sort of filmed
Speaker 5: herself standing up, heavily pregnant, filmed around, shown everyone sitting down,
Speaker 5: and she just said chivalry for pregnant women doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 4: I still can't believe not one person.
Speaker 5: Even offered, as in even offered to stand up so
Speaker 5: she could sit down, which the.
Speaker 1: Ridiculous thing about this is like usually on trains there's
Speaker 1: usually a separate part of seats which are for people
Speaker 1: who are have you no poor mobility or needs assistance
Speaker 1: or whatever, like, there's seats there that people know to
Speaker 1: get up from.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think about when I.
Speaker 5: Grew up, it was always taught if I was ever
Speaker 5: in a position like that, that you would always stand
Speaker 5: up and offer your seat to elderly, somebody disadvantaged or
Speaker 5: pregnant women like that was just what I learned as
Speaker 5: a child, and I thought that was a really standard thing.
Speaker 5: But some of the comments in this TikTok are so disgusting.
Speaker 5: I want to read you a few Why is your
Speaker 5: pregnancy anyone else's issue? Why is your pregnancy my problem?
Speaker 5: I hate this societal expectation. I mean, it was your
Speaker 5: choice to get pregnant, not theirs. Hey, you wanted a quality,
Speaker 5: you got equality, y'all.
Speaker 4: They're American. I'm sorry I really went.
Speaker 2: Into that, y'all.
Speaker 5: What is with that I'm a mother, I'm more important
Speaker 5: than you bowed down to me? Attitude and things like
Speaker 5: I don't care that you're pregnant. I care that I've
Speaker 5: had a long day, my back end feet hurt, blah
Speaker 5: blah blah, like this is just the theme that was
Speaker 5: on this TikTok, and I was actually disgusting, you know what.
Speaker 1: Look I mean, I had something happened to me when
Speaker 1: I had Lola. She was only little and she was
Speaker 1: in the car. It was Christmas time. We were going
Speaker 1: into the shopping center. And you know how like in
Speaker 1: Big West Fields they always have like the pram sections.
Speaker 4: So but that's not even Big Westfields.
Speaker 5: Every shopping center now, even the little ones have like
Speaker 5: parking with prams.
Speaker 2: Yes, so it's parking prams.
Speaker 1: It's just an area where you can, you know, easy
Speaker 1: duck in if you're a mom. Anyway, it was Christmas time,
Speaker 1: it was hell busy, and I had already had my indicator,
Speaker 1: and I was waiting to go into this parking spot
Speaker 1: which was right in the prams. And as I was
Speaker 1: waiting to go into the parking spot, someone else had
Speaker 1: pulled up, so they kind of blocked me from going in,
Speaker 1: which meant that this woman took advantage of it, and
Speaker 1: she's snuck in and took my space. Didn't have a kid,
Speaker 1: took my space, and I wound down my window and
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, come on, I've got a baby
Speaker 1: in the car. She's been screaming for twenty minutes. We've
Speaker 1: been driving around this car park. And she yelled out
Speaker 1: the window, it's your choice. You decided to have kids.
Speaker 5: That grimes my geeze Like I would have been absolutely furious.
Speaker 2: Oh I did.
Speaker 1: I was like, I wish your mother didn't have any kids.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh my god, I need
Speaker 2: to stop.
Speaker 4: This happened to my sister recently.
Speaker 5: So I was over visiting my fiance in Italy a
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago, and my sister was.
Speaker 4: Overseas as well.
Speaker 5: She's got a at the time, like six month old baby,
Speaker 5: and my sister was on the train, had to travel
Speaker 5: two and a half hours to where we were. The
Speaker 5: train was packed like sardines, right, and so Sherry's standing
Speaker 5: up holding this baby because there's no room to put
Speaker 5: her in a pram for two and a half hours. Fine,
Speaker 5: not fine, well no, but Sherry, that's what Sherry said.
Speaker 4: Write her words.
Speaker 5: She's like, fine, I get it. Did I choose to
Speaker 5: have a baby. Yeah, I'm happy to stand up. I'm
Speaker 5: not going to ask anyone to sit down.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 5: But then she had to breastfeed. No one moved, no
Speaker 5: one offered. I've seen the pictures. She's sitting on the
Speaker 5: ground in a corner with all these men standing over
Speaker 5: a bit, not for any other reason. Then at Sardine's right,
Speaker 5: it's just packed standing over a while she's trying to
Speaker 5: breastfeed a baby and protect it from being like bumped
Speaker 5: by luggage and bumped by people. And she's like, people
Speaker 5: were looking at me on the ground in my situation,
Speaker 5: and not one person offered. And I found that so sad,
Speaker 5: And she was like, I didn't want them to give
Speaker 5: up my seat for the rest of the trip. I'd
Speaker 5: obviously been standing for an hour. I just wanted somewhere
Speaker 5: safe to breastfeed for ten minutes. Then I would have
Speaker 5: gotten back up, but everyone just looked at her blatantly
Speaker 5: the I and looked away, And I thought, what kind
Speaker 5: of a world of we living in where there is
Speaker 5: not one person on that train that would see someone
Speaker 5: in a more vulnerable position and offered to help.
Speaker 1: I mean, and also we can sit here and be like, yes,
Speaker 1: of course, someone decides to have kids.
Speaker 2: Guess what, someone decided to have you.
Speaker 5: Totally at the end of the way, your mom to
Speaker 5: be able to sit down.
Speaker 1: Your mom was pregnant once upon a time too, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I read these and apart from that woman
Speaker 1: who yelled at me in a car park one time,
Speaker 1: it was Christmas and she was just full of holidays here,
Speaker 1: I feel like most people are good people. Like I've
Speaker 1: not had experiences where people haven't been helpful. I've had
Speaker 1: loads of experiences where I couldn't get a pram up
Speaker 1: the stairs and someone stop and help me carry the
Speaker 1: pram or carry things because I had too much. Like
Speaker 1: I would say, overwhelmingly, my experiences have been good, and
Speaker 1: so it's really sad to me to hear it specifically Sherry,
Speaker 1: who's a new mum who experienced something like that.
Speaker 4: Well, I think that's the difference, right.
Speaker 5: They're the quick little things that not really inconvenient to anyone.
Speaker 5: But people have this really weird attachment to their seats
Speaker 5: when it involves giving.
Speaker 4: Up a seat for something.
Speaker 5: But you, guys, remember, if you're listening right now, a
Speaker 5: woman carrying a baby's like they're running a marathon every
Speaker 5: single day, So throw them a bone, give them a seat,
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 2: Well, look that's it from us, guys,