Speaker 1: On Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: Flex and Frooms, this is the Flex and Frooms catch
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Speaker 1: It's time for Flexies to big question. Earlier in the week,
Speaker 1: I asked, what are some good qualities you have that
Speaker 1: actually work against you? Just wanting to explore what you think,
Speaker 1: why you think, in the way you think it. But
Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting to like consider. We put
Speaker 1: a box on our Instagram story. We've got a ton
Speaker 1: of responses. We definitely can't go through them all, but
Speaker 1: to begin, here are some of my favorites. These are
Speaker 1: all the ways that somebody's good qualities have worked against them.
Speaker 1: This person says, I have the opposite of arresting bitch face.
Speaker 1: I've got a resting, smiley face, and strangers always think
Speaker 1: I like them or have time for them. I am
Speaker 1: laid back and chill, but people think it means I
Speaker 1: won't pipe up when they do me wrong. Huge This
Speaker 1: person says, I can be too patient and too reliable,
Speaker 1: which I can imagine that would go poorly really quickly.
Speaker 1: Being extremely logical, Yeah, that's a tricky one because everybody
Speaker 1: knows that, like some situations core for illogical behavior, just
Speaker 1: to be silly or to use your bias and not
Speaker 1: rely on the facts. This person says looking younger than
Speaker 1: they are, and I was like, what's the negative? But
Speaker 1: I guess being infantilized constantly or not taken seriously would
Speaker 1: get really annoying, really really really quickly. So I get it.
Speaker 1: And the last one, I really feel for you. It's
Speaker 1: probably why I don't do marketplace anymore. This person says,
Speaker 1: I'm too trusting. I am the recent victim of a
Speaker 1: Facebook marketplace scam. Unfortunately, it happens to people, good people
Speaker 1: all around the world at far too many what's the
Speaker 1: phrase I'm looking for, I'm not quite sure. Anyway, it
Speaker 1: happens far too often. It's not fair. I'm really sorry
Speaker 1: for that. If you love flexi's big question. We having
Speaker 1: you on every Tuesday, and we reveal the results every Thursday.
Speaker 1: So I implore you to listen and get involved and
Speaker 1: also ask these questions to your nearest and dearest. The
Speaker 1: whole point is for you to understand yourself and the
Speaker 1: people that you love, and so why not start today?
Speaker 2: As you know FLIXI I'm a fan of a book.
Speaker 2: I am more into the nonfiction genre.
Speaker 1: I like to learn, which is a great quality being
Speaker 1: into nonfiction, because there's so much good stuff in books,
Speaker 1: Like we literally could learn everything in the world if
Speaker 1: we all just read the books that they're written in.
Speaker 2: Why is it that it's such an enjoyable activity and yet,
Speaker 2: like so many things, as a hump to get over
Speaker 2: because the concept of reading a book on like as homework.
Speaker 2: But then when I'm in bed reading a book, it
Speaker 2: gets me to sleep. It's very enjoyable.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Clementine Ford, one of my favorite feminist activists, author's broadcasters,
Speaker 2: has a new book out. It's called I Don't. She's
Speaker 2: also the author of Boys Will We Boys? And How
Speaker 2: We Love? I Think is the other one? And there's
Speaker 2: another one, or Fight Like a Girl or Fantastic Books, incisive, funny,
Speaker 2: real zingers in every single line. The new book I
Speaker 2: Don't is a case against marriage. I'm loving it. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I'm probably about fifty pages in.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. What stood out to you is anything
Speaker 1: that kind of like not not a fact or anything,
Speaker 1: but just the way that it's written or like any
Speaker 1: information where kind like oh, I wouldn't have thought about that,
Speaker 1: but now that we're here, I'm considering it.
Speaker 2: It's like dense, like every single page is like five
Speaker 2: points and I'm like, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. She's talking a lot about like the Catholic
Speaker 2: Church and marriage, about Eve coming from the roob of Adam.
Speaker 2: She like riffs on that quite funnily. I just think
Speaker 2: it's like really funnily written. It's very easy to consume,
Speaker 2: but also has you sitting going oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like gets you fired up and kind of like feels
Speaker 2: like a positive way, Like I'm the things that she's
Speaker 2: saying are kind of depressing because it's a depressing reality,
Speaker 2: but it's also fires you up to like consider your
Speaker 2: own life. Like I'm reading it thinking, oh, like I'm
Speaker 2: glad that I might never get married, or it's convinced
Speaker 2: you of that so far, just that there is even
Speaker 2: that someone's talking about it, and it's not shameful, like
Speaker 2: she talks about the whole like women with cats kind
Speaker 2: of stereotype. And I feel like when you're like approaching thirty,
Speaker 2: when you're a kid, you think, oh my god, by
Speaker 2: the time i'm thirty, I'm going to be married. I'm
Speaker 2: going to have all these things. But then for someone
Speaker 2: to like outline all the realities of what marriage can
Speaker 2: actually look like for me more, the thing that I've
Speaker 2: gotten out of it so far is the idea that, yeah,
Speaker 2: this alternate reality in brackets quotes is really fun. Like
Speaker 2: women who never get married are you know, study show
Speaker 2: are more happy? Like damn, Okay, Well then maybe this
Speaker 2: is kind of lit And I think it's really nice
Speaker 2: to come we talk about in relationships and stuff not
Speaker 2: coming from a place of lack or not coming from
Speaker 2: a place of oh my god, I've got to go
Speaker 2: out with this person because the options are running out
Speaker 2: and I'm getting older. Like, if you can find a
Speaker 2: way to let that go as a woman, that's really powerful.
Speaker 2: I know that's kind of like one oh one you
Speaker 2: should think like that, But I feel like what a
Speaker 2: lot of friends, myself included, who sometimes fall into that
Speaker 2: trap of oh, I've got to like it's gotta wait
Speaker 2: for someone to pick me. When Clementine is showing me
Speaker 2: there is really you have other options. Enjoy that time. Anyway,
Speaker 2: big fan is called I don't a case against marriage.
Speaker 2: I would like to talk to Clementine Fort about it.
Speaker 2: Need to gather my thoughts. Of course, read a bit more,
Speaker 2: but so far, so very good people that i'd recommend
Speaker 2: it to. If all your friends are getting married and
Speaker 2: you're not, if you are thinking about getting married but
Speaker 2: you're not sure, if you're feeling disenfranchised by relationships. Maybe anyway,
Speaker 2: I don't a case against marriage. It's flexan frooms on
Speaker 2: cat instead of FLEXI. I have my very own favorite producer, Mikayla.
Speaker 2: Mikayla Floriano heard on the airwaves. The full name, the
Speaker 2: full name listen, mcafe. Everybody knows I've wanted a little
Speaker 2: McDonald's bony forever. Mccafes come through and said, girlies, we
Speaker 2: want you to talk about mcafe and I really bent
Speaker 2: down and I said, yes, King, let's go, so celebrating
Speaker 2: their expertly crafted Bruce made coffes. I've been loving Macca's
Speaker 2: coffee since they introduced Milk Club Almond milk. That was
Speaker 2: like I found out when I was driving from Sydney
Speaker 2: to Melbourne like a year ago, and I stopped over
Speaker 2: at the Macas somewhere on the Hume Highway and I said,
Speaker 2: I'll get a coffee please, desperate. Didn't know the had
Speaker 2: almond milk from Milk Club and.
Speaker 3: I thought, in your brain, chemistry rewine.
Speaker 2: And my one. That's different. Anyway, Mickey, we want to
Speaker 2: catch up, because every catchup is over coffee. Yes, we know.
Speaker 2: We've both been watching The Backhams and I just wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually had a lot of thoughts. My first
Speaker 3: thought was being that Victoria went through a lot like
Speaker 3: David would get a call be like, hey, you need
Speaker 3: to play from Real Madrid tomorrow. And then he called
Speaker 3: Vicky and hey we need to go to Spain tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We're moving you and the kids. And she'd put up
Speaker 3: with it, and she moved. He'd give her like twenty
Speaker 3: four hours notice, and he did this every time he
Speaker 3: moved clubs.
Speaker 2: Oh my word, see I missed that bit. I only
Speaker 2: watched probably forty minutes of the first episode. All I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say about the Beckhams is I implore everyone, once
Speaker 2: you watch the show, and even if you don't type
Speaker 2: in Ali g Beckhams.
Speaker 1: And they did.
Speaker 2: Have you seen this one? No?
Speaker 1: But I know what.
Speaker 2: I know what ali g is. Oh my god, thank heavens.
Speaker 2: They were doing like what was it called, like a
Speaker 2: red nose relief for a charity thing on TV and
Speaker 2: he interviewed the Beckhams and it's so funny and they
Speaker 2: take it really well. And that's when I fell in
Speaker 2: love with Victoria David Beckham.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe i'll in preparation for our next coffee catch up, huh,
Speaker 3: because we'll do them weekly, I think, as you should
Speaker 3: with your nearest and Darras.
Speaker 2: Step in, guys, step in.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll do a little alig compilation. I don't have
Speaker 3: time to watch holding for me.
Speaker 1: I'll i'll report that.
Speaker 2: Oh babe, you know I love that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll do that for you. I'll do that for
Speaker 3: you next week, next week.
Speaker 2: Let's see that, honestly. Oh thank you mcafe.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: However you take yours? How do I? How do you
Speaker 2: take yours?
Speaker 3: Soy, always soy milk. I was an oat girl. I've
Speaker 3: converted back.
Speaker 2: Sorry for that. Mickey from a summer's morning cool kick
Speaker 2: to a chilled afternoon pick me up drive through for
Speaker 2: a barista made ice cold coffee at McCafe. Now that's
Speaker 2: coffee fit for a nousey.
Speaker 3: Thanks mcavey.
Speaker 2: You're listening to Flex and Rooms on Kita.
Speaker 1: Have you thought about what it would be like to
Speaker 1: commit a robbery? And I don't mean watching money heist
Speaker 1: on Netflix and being like I could do that. The
Speaker 1: steaks are so high. I would come too, because I've
Speaker 1: thought about that too. But if you really needed to
Speaker 1: do it, what lengths would you go to? I'm not
Speaker 1: going to solicit any more information because I do feel
Speaker 1: like I've got a legal duty of care to not
Speaker 1: encourage you to commit a crime. However, I was reading
Speaker 1: about this guy in Poland who has done something that
Speaker 1: I thought i'd only see in like a Hollywood blockbuster.
Speaker 1: Twenty two year old guy stood motionless for two hours
Speaker 1: inside the display of a store until it's time for
Speaker 1: the stuff to pack up and leave. He would be
Speaker 1: literally pretended to be a mannequin. So basically he was
Speaker 1: stealing stuff from a clothing store as well as jeordy
Speaker 1: from a jewelry stand within a shopping center. And basically
Speaker 1: he just stood with a bag in his hand, motionless,
Speaker 1: pretending to be a mannequin, hoping that everybody would leave
Speaker 1: and that he would just walk out afterwards. I don't
Speaker 1: think he thought it through because once the doors are locked,
Speaker 1: how is he going to get out? Not quite sure.
Speaker 1: But basically he was found out, he was filmed, he
Speaker 1: was documented. But we have to, I guess, award him
Speaker 1: for the ingenuity it takes to do something so silly
Speaker 1: and so brave and not really thought out but powerful. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: I respect it.
Speaker 2: I did see that. He like, yeah, we gotta give
Speaker 2: points for creativity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just gumption points doing stuff because we all have
Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts like oh what if we did this,
Speaker 1: and we'll just never do it for obvious reasons, the
Speaker 1: fear of failing, but also the fear of being criminal.
Speaker 1: But in this instance, just to see it through. There's
Speaker 1: something to learn from this pretty beautiful stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm currently reading Jian Yankovic's new book, Just Friends. Have
Speaker 2: you heard of it?
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: So it's a brand new book. It's a debut book.
Speaker 2: It's about the power of friendships, and it got me thinking, FLEXI,
Speaker 2: what is something that you've learned from a friendship that
Speaker 2: you don't think you could have learned in a romantic relationship.
Speaker 1: Pro social behavior that is fueled by love and not manipulation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, drop the mic.
Speaker 1: Pro social behavior is this idea that you do a
Speaker 1: thing that's good for somebody else for nothing in return,
Speaker 1: Like you just do it because you want to. So
Speaker 1: you know, let's say I know that you like eating
Speaker 1: with a fork and not a spoon, so I make
Speaker 1: sure that when I serve you dinner there's always a
Speaker 1: fork and not a spoon. Like, I don't have to
Speaker 1: do that, but it's just a nice thing to do.
Speaker 1: You would never probably wouldn't notice or ask, but it's nice.
Speaker 1: I think in friendships you learn how to be pro
Speaker 1: social with training, but it's like it comes from your heart.
Speaker 1: It comes from a want to be good to that
Speaker 1: person with often very little expectation in return. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're setting a standard, but you want to do it right.
Speaker 1: But I think in romantic dynamics you often think you're
Speaker 1: being pro social when you're being manipulative, Like I'm doing
Speaker 1: this behavior because I want this in return, or I'm
Speaker 1: trying to generate a very specific outcome that I feel
Speaker 1: like I can only get if I do this thing.
Speaker 2: WHOA, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 2: I would say that I learned how to have hard
Speaker 2: conversations in friendships more than romantic relationships because with friendships
Speaker 2: there's less pressure because you've got more than one friend.
Speaker 2: So then you can learn like because then part of
Speaker 2: you is like, oh, like you're going to be more
Speaker 2: willing to be open and honest because you're not thinking, oh,
Speaker 2: they're going to like think I'm crazy, or like they're
Speaker 2: gonna think, you know, if I fudge this up, then
Speaker 2: we're going to break up. Because when it's with your friend,
Speaker 2: there's more room to kind of talk about that stuff.
Speaker 2: See how it's how a conflict resolution from my friends
Speaker 2: beautiful Mickey, you got a name?
Speaker 3: Learning when and how to tell the truth? Oh, that
Speaker 3: was one beautiful I've been thinking about because I often
Speaker 3: have to think to myself, is like, is my opinion
Speaker 3: and what I think serving the other person or is
Speaker 3: it serving myself? And That's something I've learned like to
Speaker 3: mitigate as I've gotten older through all my friendships.
Speaker 2: Huge mood, Well, loving the book, Loving my Friends, and
Speaker 2: love you FLEXI you've.
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