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<v Speaker 1>On Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Flex and Frooms, this is the Flex and Frooms catch

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<v Speaker 2>up podcast. Happy Thursday, favorite day of the week or

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<v Speaker 2>the smartest way to commit to crime. FLEXI is bringing

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<v Speaker 2>that to the table. Do with that Voluebill, Let's come

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<v Speaker 2>out next. You're with Flex and Frooms. Let's go. You're

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<v Speaker 2>listening to Flex and Frooms on Kaita.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Flexies to big question. Earlier in the week,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked, what are some good qualities you have that

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<v Speaker 1>actually work against you? Just wanting to explore what you think,

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<v Speaker 1>why you think, in the way you think it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's interesting to like consider. We put

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<v Speaker 1>a box on our Instagram story. We've got a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of responses. We definitely can't go through them all, but

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<v Speaker 1>to begin, here are some of my favorites. These are

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<v Speaker 1>all the ways that somebody's good qualities have worked against them.

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<v Speaker 1>This person says, I have the opposite of arresting bitch face.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a resting, smiley face, and strangers always think

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<v Speaker 1>I like them or have time for them. I am

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<v Speaker 1>laid back and chill, but people think it means I

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<v Speaker 1>won't pipe up when they do me wrong. Huge This

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<v Speaker 1>person says, I can be too patient and too reliable,

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<v Speaker 1>which I can imagine that would go poorly really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Being extremely logical, Yeah, that's a tricky one because everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows that, like some situations core for illogical behavior, just

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<v Speaker 1>to be silly or to use your bias and not

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<v Speaker 1>rely on the facts. This person says looking younger than

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<v Speaker 1>they are, and I was like, what's the negative? But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess being infantilized constantly or not taken seriously would

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<v Speaker 1>get really annoying, really really really quickly. So I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the last one, I really feel for you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>probably why I don't do marketplace anymore. This person says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm too trusting. I am the recent victim of a

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook marketplace scam. Unfortunately, it happens to people, good people

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<v Speaker 1>all around the world at far too many what's the

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<v Speaker 1>phrase I'm looking for, I'm not quite sure. Anyway, it

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<v Speaker 1>happens far too often. It's not fair. I'm really sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for that. If you love flexi's big question. We having

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<v Speaker 1>you on every Tuesday, and we reveal the results every Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>So I implore you to listen and get involved and

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<v Speaker 1>also ask these questions to your nearest and dearest. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole point is for you to understand yourself and the

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<v Speaker 1>people that you love, and so why not start today?

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<v Speaker 2>As you know FLIXI I'm a fan of a book.

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<v Speaker 2>I am more into the nonfiction genre.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to learn, which is a great quality being

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<v Speaker 1>into nonfiction, because there's so much good stuff in books,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we literally could learn everything in the world if

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<v Speaker 1>we all just read the books that they're written in.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it that it's such an enjoyable activity and yet,

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<v Speaker 2>like so many things, as a hump to get over

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<v Speaker 2>because the concept of reading a book on like as homework.

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<v Speaker 2>But then when I'm in bed reading a book, it

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<v Speaker 2>gets me to sleep. It's very enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Clementine Ford, one of my favorite feminist activists, author's broadcasters,

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<v Speaker 2>has a new book out. It's called I Don't. She's

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<v Speaker 2>also the author of Boys Will We Boys? And How

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<v Speaker 2>We Love? I Think is the other one? And there's

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<v Speaker 2>another one, or Fight Like a Girl or Fantastic Books, incisive, funny,

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<v Speaker 2>real zingers in every single line. The new book I

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<v Speaker 2>Don't is a case against marriage. I'm loving it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna lie. I'm probably about fifty pages in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot. What stood out to you is anything

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of like not not a fact or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but just the way that it's written or like any

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<v Speaker 1>information where kind like oh, I wouldn't have thought about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but now that we're here, I'm considering it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like dense, like every single page is like five

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<v Speaker 2>points and I'm like, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah. She's talking a lot about like the Catholic

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<v Speaker 2>Church and marriage, about Eve coming from the roob of Adam.

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<v Speaker 2>She like riffs on that quite funnily. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it's like really funnily written. It's very easy to consume,

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<v Speaker 2>but also has you sitting going oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like gets you fired up and kind of like feels

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<v Speaker 2>like a positive way, Like I'm the things that she's

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<v Speaker 2>saying are kind of depressing because it's a depressing reality,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also fires you up to like consider your

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<v Speaker 2>own life. Like I'm reading it thinking, oh, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad that I might never get married, or it's convinced

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<v Speaker 2>you of that so far, just that there is even

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<v Speaker 2>that someone's talking about it, and it's not shameful, like

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<v Speaker 2>she talks about the whole like women with cats kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stereotype. And I feel like when you're like approaching thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're a kid, you think, oh my god, by

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<v Speaker 2>the time i'm thirty, I'm going to be married. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to have all these things. But then for someone

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<v Speaker 2>to like outline all the realities of what marriage can

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<v Speaker 2>actually look like for me more, the thing that I've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten out of it so far is the idea that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this alternate reality in brackets quotes is really fun. Like

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<v Speaker 2>women who never get married are you know, study show

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<v Speaker 2>are more happy? Like damn, Okay, Well then maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of lit And I think it's really nice

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<v Speaker 2>to come we talk about in relationships and stuff not

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<v Speaker 2>coming from a place of lack or not coming from

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<v Speaker 2>a place of oh my god, I've got to go

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<v Speaker 2>out with this person because the options are running out

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm getting older. Like, if you can find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to let that go as a woman, that's really powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's kind of like one oh one you

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<v Speaker 2>should think like that, But I feel like what a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of friends, myself included, who sometimes fall into that

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<v Speaker 2>trap of oh, I've got to like it's gotta wait

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<v Speaker 2>for someone to pick me. When Clementine is showing me

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<v Speaker 2>there is really you have other options. Enjoy that time. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>big fan is called I don't a case against marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to talk to Clementine Fort about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to gather my thoughts. Of course, read a bit more,

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<v Speaker 2>but so far, so very good people that i'd recommend

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<v Speaker 2>it to. If all your friends are getting married and

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<v Speaker 2>you're not, if you are thinking about getting married but

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<v Speaker 2>you're not sure, if you're feeling disenfranchised by relationships. Maybe anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't a case against marriage. It's flexan frooms on

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<v Speaker 2>cat instead of FLEXI. I have my very own favorite producer, Mikayla.

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<v Speaker 2>Mikayla Floriano heard on the airwaves. The full name, the

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<v Speaker 2>full name listen, mcafe. Everybody knows I've wanted a little

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<v Speaker 2>McDonald's bony forever. Mccafes come through and said, girlies, we

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<v Speaker 2>want you to talk about mcafe and I really bent

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<v Speaker 2>down and I said, yes, King, let's go, so celebrating

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<v Speaker 2>their expertly crafted Bruce made coffes. I've been loving Macca's

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<v Speaker 2>coffee since they introduced Milk Club Almond milk. That was

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<v Speaker 2>like I found out when I was driving from Sydney

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<v Speaker 2>to Melbourne like a year ago, and I stopped over

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<v Speaker 2>at the Macas somewhere on the Hume Highway and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get a coffee please, desperate. Didn't know the had

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<v Speaker 2>almond milk from Milk Club and.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, in your brain, chemistry rewine.

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<v Speaker 2>And my one. That's different. Anyway, Mickey, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>catch up, because every catchup is over coffee. Yes, we know.

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<v Speaker 2>We've both been watching The Backhams and I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I actually had a lot of thoughts. My first

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<v Speaker 3>thought was being that Victoria went through a lot like

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<v Speaker 3>David would get a call be like, hey, you need

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<v Speaker 3>to play from Real Madrid tomorrow. And then he called

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<v Speaker 3>Vicky and hey we need to go to Spain tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>We're moving you and the kids. And she'd put up

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<v Speaker 3>with it, and she moved. He'd give her like twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four hours notice, and he did this every time he

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<v Speaker 3>moved clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my word, see I missed that bit. I only

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<v Speaker 2>watched probably forty minutes of the first episode. All I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say about the Beckhams is I implore everyone, once

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<v Speaker 2>you watch the show, and even if you don't type

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<v Speaker 2>in Ali g Beckhams.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen this one? No?

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<v Speaker 1>But I know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what ali g is. Oh my god, thank heavens.

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<v Speaker 2>They were doing like what was it called, like a

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<v Speaker 2>red nose relief for a charity thing on TV and

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<v Speaker 2>he interviewed the Beckhams and it's so funny and they

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<v Speaker 2>take it really well. And that's when I fell in

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<v Speaker 2>love with Victoria David Beckham.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, maybe i'll in preparation for our next coffee catch up, huh,

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<v Speaker 3>because we'll do them weekly, I think, as you should

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<v Speaker 3>with your nearest and Darras.

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<v Speaker 2>Step in, guys, step in.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'll do a little alig compilation. I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>time to watch holding for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll i'll report that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh babe, you know I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll do that for you. I'll do that for

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<v Speaker 3>you next week, next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see that, honestly. Oh thank you mcafe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>However you take yours? How do I? How do you

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<v Speaker 2>take yours?

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<v Speaker 3>Soy, always soy milk. I was an oat girl. I've

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<v Speaker 3>converted back.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry for that. Mickey from a summer's morning cool kick

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<v Speaker 2>to a chilled afternoon pick me up drive through for

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<v Speaker 2>a barista made ice cold coffee at McCafe. Now that's

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<v Speaker 2>coffee fit for a nousey.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks mcavey.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Flex and Rooms on Kita.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you thought about what it would be like to

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<v Speaker 1>commit a robbery? And I don't mean watching money heist

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix and being like I could do that. The

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<v Speaker 1>steaks are so high. I would come too, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>thought about that too. But if you really needed to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, what lengths would you go to? I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to solicit any more information because I do feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I've got a legal duty of care to not

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<v Speaker 1>encourage you to commit a crime. However, I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>about this guy in Poland who has done something that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought i'd only see in like a Hollywood blockbuster.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty two year old guy stood motionless for two hours

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<v Speaker 1>inside the display of a store until it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff to pack up and leave. He would be

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<v Speaker 1>literally pretended to be a mannequin. So basically he was

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<v Speaker 1>stealing stuff from a clothing store as well as jeordy

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<v Speaker 1>from a jewelry stand within a shopping center. And basically

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<v Speaker 1>he just stood with a bag in his hand, motionless,

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<v Speaker 1>pretending to be a mannequin, hoping that everybody would leave

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<v Speaker 1>and that he would just walk out afterwards. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he thought it through because once the doors are locked,

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<v Speaker 1>how is he going to get out? Not quite sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically he was found out, he was filmed, he

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<v Speaker 1>was documented. But we have to, I guess, award him

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<v Speaker 1>for the ingenuity it takes to do something so silly

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<v Speaker 1>and so brave and not really thought out but powerful. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>I respect it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did see that. He like, yeah, we gotta give

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<v Speaker 2>points for creativity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just gumption points doing stuff because we all have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of thoughts like oh what if we did this,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll just never do it for obvious reasons, the

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<v Speaker 1>fear of failing, but also the fear of being criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>But in this instance, just to see it through. There's

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<v Speaker 1>something to learn from this pretty beautiful stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm currently reading Jian Yankovic's new book, Just Friends. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you heard of it?

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a brand new book. It's a debut book.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about the power of friendships, and it got me thinking, FLEXI,

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<v Speaker 2>what is something that you've learned from a friendship that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't think you could have learned in a romantic relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Pro social behavior that is fueled by love and not manipulation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, drop the mic.

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<v Speaker 1>Pro social behavior is this idea that you do a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's good for somebody else for nothing in return,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you just do it because you want to. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's say I know that you like eating

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<v Speaker 1>with a fork and not a spoon, so I make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that when I serve you dinner there's always a

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<v Speaker 1>fork and not a spoon. Like, I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, but it's just a nice thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You would never probably wouldn't notice or ask, but it's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in friendships you learn how to be pro

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<v Speaker 1>social with training, but it's like it comes from your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes from a want to be good to that

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<v Speaker 1>person with often very little expectation in return. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're setting a standard, but you want to do it right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think in romantic dynamics you often think you're

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<v Speaker 1>being pro social when you're being manipulative, Like I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>this behavior because I want this in return, or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to generate a very specific outcome that I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I can only get if I do this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>For me.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that I learned how to have hard

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<v Speaker 2>conversations in friendships more than romantic relationships because with friendships

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<v Speaker 2>there's less pressure because you've got more than one friend.

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<v Speaker 2>So then you can learn like because then part of

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<v Speaker 2>you is like, oh, like you're going to be more

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<v Speaker 2>willing to be open and honest because you're not thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to like think I'm crazy, or like they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna think, you know, if I fudge this up, then

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to break up. Because when it's with your friend,

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<v Speaker 2>there's more room to kind of talk about that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>See how it's how a conflict resolution from my friends

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful Mickey, you got a name?

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<v Speaker 3>Learning when and how to tell the truth? Oh, that

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<v Speaker 3>was one beautiful I've been thinking about because I often

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<v Speaker 3>have to think to myself, is like, is my opinion

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<v Speaker 3>and what I think serving the other person or is

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<v Speaker 3>it serving myself? And That's something I've learned like to

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<v Speaker 3>mitigate as I've gotten older through all my friendships.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge mood, Well, loving the book, Loving my Friends, and

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<v Speaker 2>love you FLEXI you've.

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