WEBVTT - UNDER THE INFLUENCE: MAFS Mishel Karen

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<v Speaker 2>That is so fat thank you. I can remember when

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<v Speaker 2>we've just signed the contracts and I've said, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really worried because I've just watched all this the last season.

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<v Speaker 2>There isn't going to be It's not gonna be like

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<v Speaker 2>last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that there's not going to be all.

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<v Speaker 2>That, And like executive producers like no, no, no, we

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<v Speaker 2>found someone. He's like, you're gonna love him. I'm just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe U.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to do in a particular situation. I can

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<v Speaker 2>remember sitting there like three or four weeks in and

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<v Speaker 2>thinking I can't do this, and like you know and

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<v Speaker 2>that you think, why did they cheat in the last seasons. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know why they cheated because they're bought. I went

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<v Speaker 2>through phases where I wanted to get out of the exprement,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no one you can talk to. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>talk to the psyche because they're just telling the producers,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't talk to anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>On today's Under the Influence episode, we're joined by the

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<v Speaker 1>amazing Michelle from Married at First Sight. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much Michelle for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Basually, i'd love to find out what you've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>since Maths, and I suppose how you're coping during isolation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's kind of a continuation of Maths isolation, isn't it,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's almost like we did the three and a

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<v Speaker 2>half months in maths and then now we're doing COVID isolation.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a few weeks where I could do stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a Christmas holiday, which was awesome, but

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<v Speaker 2>working from home. So I was firstly educated as a naturopath,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's my first profession. And then I went back

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<v Speaker 2>to UNI and started education and I did secondary education,

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<v Speaker 2>so science, maths, English, and then I thought I'd go

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<v Speaker 2>back and study literacy and numacy, and then I went

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<v Speaker 2>back and did a postgrade in English as a second language,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah. Now, because I have been medically retired from

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<v Speaker 2>Queensland Education, I'm working with the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and can you tell us a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>why you were medically retired because you mentioned before that

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<v Speaker 1>you get asked so many questions about your voice, and

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<v Speaker 1>so this is my answer some people's questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So about eight or nine years ago, I was

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<v Speaker 2>teaching class and my students kept laughing at me. They

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<v Speaker 2>were saying, oh, you sound like comit the frog, miss,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like, no, I don't I sound fine. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I got checked and I basically had tumors growing on

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<v Speaker 2>my vote courts and basically they just cut them out

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to rest my voice where you're not

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to talk at all, which is so difficult. And

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<v Speaker 2>then a year later they came back. So then I

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<v Speaker 2>was medically retired. So I had to find another career

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<v Speaker 2>where I don't use bomb voice so much, and I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up in the Queensland Police Service and now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the academy at doing training. So it's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they recognize you from maths?

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<v Speaker 2>They they do, but because of like our kind of

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<v Speaker 2>our chain of command, they basically would not approach me

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<v Speaker 2>and say something, but some of them kind of look

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<v Speaker 2>at me and like why to ask, and then some

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<v Speaker 2>do ask, but yeah, it's okay, Like I don't mind

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<v Speaker 2>if they ask, I'd rather than mask.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you so, were you scouted for the show? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually I was set to go on the show

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<v Speaker 2>about three years ago, so I think it was about

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<v Speaker 2>season four or I don't know, or five, and I

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<v Speaker 2>started dating someone from school, and about four weeks into

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<v Speaker 2>dating him, I pulled out of the whole maths process.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this year I just got an email to say,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to apply? And I said, okay, I will,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah I did. So it kind of worked out

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<v Speaker 2>like that, so I still had to go back and

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<v Speaker 2>do my audition tape and and like all the other processes.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I already knew basically the producers, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had met them before. I didn't know them like I

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<v Speaker 2>just met them.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder who you were going to be set up

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<v Speaker 1>with in season four? I'm trying to think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was all five it was. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been John from Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, so that's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah so another Melbourne person, Yes, So I that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I think who it would have been, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure now.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously you watched Maths before going on it, because

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<v Speaker 1>we spoke to Drew last week and he'd never seen

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<v Speaker 1>an episode but signed up, which blew our minds.

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<v Speaker 2>No, so well, I think i'd watched that's like the

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<v Speaker 2>season of when I had applied then like a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, and then I kind of didn't really watch it,

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<v Speaker 2>but then we yeah, we binged watched the last season

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<v Speaker 2>with my girlfriend just to see kind of what we

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<v Speaker 2>were getting into. So because I don't really watch television,

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<v Speaker 2>so and that was something that like Steve and I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't like. He found it really difficult because he watches

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<v Speaker 2>television a lot and I never had the TV on

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<v Speaker 2>at all, so like, we actually never turned the TV

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<v Speaker 2>off unless we're watching something.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel apprehensive watching last seasons before you were

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<v Speaker 1>about to go on it, because obviously it was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>explosive with Sorrel throwing wine and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you a bit concerned because it seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>gone up a level since you know, three or four

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<v Speaker 1>years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like three or four years ago, except like

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<v Speaker 2>quite legit, so you know, and then well, was it

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<v Speaker 2>Martha that threw the wine or.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sorry, yeah, sorry, was the recipient, wasn't she?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah she got she got the wine? Yeah, but yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was. It was eye opening, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like very frustrating as well. But I thought because

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<v Speaker 2>the women were so disjointed and they weren't like together

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<v Speaker 2>and they were so anti each other, and yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>something that bothered me and I didn't want that to

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<v Speaker 2>be the same in our season.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think it was different in your season?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not. Yeah, Like, I think that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>us had good intentions and we tried, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that I could honestly say that I would talk to

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<v Speaker 2>everyone on the series and I would be kind or

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<v Speaker 2>nice to them, But I think that some personalities just

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't get on, and they were never going to get on.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter how much I tried or anyone tried

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<v Speaker 2>to get them to get along, they weren't going to. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that was pushed by producers or do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it was just that some people just didn't click.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's strange because the thing is, like Stacey and

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<v Speaker 2>Haley just say that was a weird situation because I

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<v Speaker 2>think that they both thought they didn't like that the

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<v Speaker 2>other didn't like each other from the first day, but

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<v Speaker 2>when you watch it on when we rewatched it, they're

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<v Speaker 2>actually quite friendly for the first couple of dinner parties.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't know why they got that impression.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there was something that they were told that this

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<v Speaker 2>person doesn't like you. I don't know, because everyone said

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<v Speaker 2>the girls said to get on really well, especially on

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<v Speaker 2>the Hens night, and first I couldn't say that anyone

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<v Speaker 2>was annoying at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why the producers had to step in and

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stir the pot a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, before we got the intruders, Like seriously, we

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<v Speaker 2>could have fallen asleep at a didner part because we

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<v Speaker 2>were all like we were basically like all friends. Like

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<v Speaker 2>we we'd like even if we had an argument like

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<v Speaker 2>on TV or whatever, we'd come out and just like okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, and we're just like making food or sharing

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<v Speaker 2>food or whatever, like not that we're allowed to talk,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, you know, somebody might make something and then

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<v Speaker 2>give everyone banana bread that was Hailey's things.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, because I think that's what Elizabeth, when she

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<v Speaker 1>came in as an intruder, kind of said during the

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<v Speaker 1>dinner party, She's like, Wow, this is boring. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to stir things up. So it kind of puts into

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<v Speaker 1>perspective that maybe that obviously was the producer's intentions, and

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<v Speaker 1>like these people are getting on too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah we were, but but we were because like

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<v Speaker 2>we're kind of like and you put Stacy and Meeting

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<v Speaker 2>next to each other and we just start talking about

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<v Speaker 2>our kids, and no one wants to hear about our kids,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so that's quite a boring conversation apparently for TV.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, it's really exciting. And you see that

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<v Speaker 2>one dinner party where I'm talking about, oh, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>had bunyan surgery, and then somebody saying it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was our dinner parties, and then yeah, unless somebody

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<v Speaker 2>stirred something up, then yeah, we're getting so comfortable because

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<v Speaker 2>you end up feeling almost like a family because we're

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<v Speaker 2>there in that place on the same level. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>a babysitter that looks after us, a producer, and we

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<v Speaker 2>can always go there and hang out. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>really sick of your partner, you can just hang out

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<v Speaker 2>in the producer in the babysitter's room. You're not a

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<v Speaker 2>a talk production or anything like that. But you can

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<v Speaker 2>just sit there and just have a general conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny you say that because I was actually listening

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<v Speaker 1>to an interview I don't know if you want the

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<v Speaker 1>first season of Big Brother twenty years ago when Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Marie was on, but she was getting interviewed on a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and she spoke about how she used to get so

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<v Speaker 1>sick of all the housemates that she'd actually just ring

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<v Speaker 1>up the psychologist Carmel to have a chat. It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sounds like you guys are like, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>chatting with the producers to talk to someone new.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that, well, because you're stuck in the

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<v Speaker 2>room with the same person and you can't get along.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if it was like like like your true one,

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<v Speaker 2>true love and you were like you know, or even

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<v Speaker 2>your brother or sister or your mum, you'd fight with

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<v Speaker 2>them anyway, and you get annoyed with people. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you're with them all the time, then you just need

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<v Speaker 2>a break sometimes and sometimes you both go in and

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<v Speaker 2>just sit there and speak to the like babysitter, the producer,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it, and you know, and you might see like

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<v Speaker 2>often we'd go there and we'd see Stacey and Michael

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in there having a chat, and like Drew came

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<v Speaker 2>in once and brought everyone donuts and we're just like,

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<v Speaker 2>look that out.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of sounds like what isolation is like for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of couples, but they don't have the outlet

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<v Speaker 1>of talking to babysitters or producers. It's quite funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And this is just that's what I say about COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>It just feels like maths, but at on a larger scale.

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<v Speaker 2>But this time, but this time, I've got like a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more freedom. I can go into my garden,

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<v Speaker 2>I can get onto the internet. I can do like

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<v Speaker 2>I can watch something if I wanted to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>use my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>So were you guys allowed to use the internet and

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<v Speaker 1>your phones during filming or was that off limits?

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<v Speaker 2>Not while we're filming, So no, we couldn't use our phones.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they actually take them off you, so you can't

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<v Speaker 2>even leave it in your room. They take them off you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have a production phone and you have your

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<v Speaker 2>phone and they collect it before you film.

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<v Speaker 1>They needed to take lessons off him a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems because Connie kept getting annoyed that he was

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that was like, well he wasn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. That might have been one little argument about something,

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<v Speaker 2>but that could have been on there downtime, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Everyone was like doing something on their phone,

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<v Speaker 2>like when they could, like you know, Steve would have said,

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<v Speaker 2>oh wow, you're always talking to your family and any

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity I FaceTime anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the producers might have been reading through

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<v Speaker 1>your messages because in the last Dinner party it obviously

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<v Speaker 1>came out all the scandalous affair between Mikey and apparently Stacey.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that they might have known about that

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<v Speaker 1>from reading his messages?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're not out of send me message. The production

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<v Speaker 2>phone doesn't have a sin card, so we only use

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<v Speaker 2>it for filming and taking photos. But the thing is

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<v Speaker 2>what you don't really realize your producer. So you adopt

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<v Speaker 2>a produce or producer adopts you, and you become best

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<v Speaker 2>friends with this person. And I'm not sure if it's

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<v Speaker 2>like unreal. You know the series on stand and you

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<v Speaker 2>you believe that they're your best friend and they're kind

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<v Speaker 2>and they do whatever you want, and you know this

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong and they'll fix it and whatever. See, so

0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.280
<v Speaker 2>there you'll go to all the time. So you end

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<v Speaker 2>up trusting him so much that you reveal a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of information that you probably just slip up. And also,

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<v Speaker 2>like somebody might have said something like with the Stacy

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<v Speaker 2>and Mikey thing, Well, Alex and Stacy were quite close

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<v Speaker 2>on the show, and then when the Alex kind of

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<v Speaker 2>scandal came up. I think Alex felt portrayed by Stacy

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit because and maybe she changed alliances or

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, and said something about the messages because

0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Stacy might have confined I don't know, speculation, but because

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<v Speaker 2>alliances changed all the time, and if you got dirt

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<v Speaker 2>on someone, maybe you use it.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely just a on yourself, Yeah, depend on your morals,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose. Just going back to I suppose your motivation

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<v Speaker 1>for going on Maths, you were very open about some

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<v Speaker 1>of your previous relationships, and you did say that seven

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<v Speaker 1>out of your eight relationships you were cheated on, which

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<v Speaker 1>is awful. I mean, you must have met some real

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<v Speaker 1>assholes along the way. You were you worried that they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to match you up with someone that might

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<v Speaker 1>cheat on you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never thought that at all. I actually like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't think that that would be like the

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<v Speaker 2>focus of my character because there were so many other

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<v Speaker 2>things that I talked about. But yeah, I haven't dated

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. I've had a couple long term relationships and

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<v Speaker 2>oh I've actually had one since my divorce and the

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<v Speaker 2>others have been only like seven months or three months

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<v Speaker 2>or something, So I haven't really dated a lot. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I never let anyone move in. So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was probably I didn't expect it because I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>that that was going to be the thing that they

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<v Speaker 2>focus on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh that's understandable.

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<v Speaker 2>And like, well, but cheating is like one of my

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<v Speaker 2>big bona's I think. You know, once you've cheated, you're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of always like yeah, I said that, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Always a cheatah as Rachel Green from Friends would say.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I just think that, and I just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine that they would. So even like I can remember

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<v Speaker 2>when we've just signed the contracts and I've said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really worried because I've just watched all this the

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<v Speaker 2>last season. There isn't going to be It's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like last year, is it. There's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be all that and like the executive producers like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, we found someone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, you're gonna love him, and just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe us, you know so. And the thing is like,

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<v Speaker 2>you tell me something, I believe you, yes, because I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't tell you a lie. So I don't think people lied.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was good to take people on face value.

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<v Speaker 1>It's disappointing when people use that to their advantage. I

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<v Speaker 1>suppose that being said, there was a lot of talk

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<v Speaker 1>online that Steve was, you know, the term gas lighting

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<v Speaker 1>you because he'd make up sort of excuses, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not tall enough and all that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But then lead you on did you feel that did

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<v Speaker 1>you think he was gas lighting.

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<v Speaker 2>You at the time. I did really feel like that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I've really felt like that because there were two different

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<v Speaker 2>situations on camera off camera, and then when that whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing happened at the beach, it didn't really work out

0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.200
<v Speaker 2>like that, but it was and then like the next

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days it just kind of wow, And that

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<v Speaker 2>was a producer instigated thing. So I think the day

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<v Speaker 2>at the beach, because we were like, we were quite

0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:02.240
<v Speaker 2>close Steve and I like we were friendly. Yeah, we

0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.720
<v Speaker 2>had lots of arguments, like we'd argue, but we'd argue

0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.720
<v Speaker 2>over him closing the door, and then I'd argue with

0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.159
<v Speaker 2>him because he shut because he opened the door, like,

0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, whichever, why did you shut it? Why did

0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.840
<v Speaker 2>you open it? Like, you know, just stupid. And like

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<v Speaker 2>if you saw our home videos, which one day I

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<v Speaker 2>hope I release, they're actually quite funny because they're really

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, stupid. But it was we weren't quite comfortable,

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<v Speaker 2>and that day I think they picked that particular day

0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:34.040
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I had bought him breakfast as a surprise,

0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:38.480
<v Speaker 2>and he's so overwhelmed with happiness. And then the producer said,

0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I think this is the day that you need to

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<v Speaker 2>tell her that you're not attracted to it. So and

0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.160
<v Speaker 2>he was like the whole time, and he's trying to

0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.119
<v Speaker 2>say stuff to me, but they don't let you talk,

0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.240
<v Speaker 2>so he's trying to give me any warning signs and

0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.880
<v Speaker 2>and but we've got when miked up, we can't really talk,

0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.919
<v Speaker 2>and he's just saying, don't believe it, don't believe it,

0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.520
<v Speaker 2>don't say this, you know, and he's like trying to

0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.320
<v Speaker 2>give me signs. And we sit down and then I

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<v Speaker 2>just and he goes, yeah, I'm not feeling attraction. I say,

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<v Speaker 2>okay anyway, and then they're just like, how do you

0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.520
<v Speaker 2>feel about that? I'm just like, it's all right, It's okay.

0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:19.480
<v Speaker 2>What do we do? He's not attracted? And then we

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<v Speaker 2>left like that. We actually left laughing and left the

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<v Speaker 2>beach and we didn't have a fight. I wasn't upset.

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<v Speaker 2>We got back to the unit and no one's allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to come over, but that night we got people come

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<v Speaker 2>over for a cup of tea and juices, come in

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<v Speaker 2>and have a chat, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation comes up to, oh, yeah, like Steve's been

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<v Speaker 2>telling us this all the time, and that's why it

0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.760
<v Speaker 2>comes out like, you know, why has he been telling

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<v Speaker 2>everyone for the last six weeks and he hasn't told me?

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<v Speaker 2>But in reality, like when I watched the series, he'd

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<v Speaker 2>never said it into the screen, but I'd been told

0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.159
<v Speaker 2>that he had been saying it the whole time. And

0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.960
<v Speaker 2>so then you know, like we were we were fine,

0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.159
<v Speaker 2>like up until everyone left that night, and like we

0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.720
<v Speaker 2>weren't allowed to have visitors, but we did, and they've

0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.840
<v Speaker 2>said that and they've made it really clear. So was

0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.800
<v Speaker 2>that planned. I don't know you would have.

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<v Speaker 1>Been thinking it was like the Elizabeth Sam situation where

0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Sam was just bagging her out the whole time, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it came as a shot. Because I remember hearing

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<v Speaker 1>your reaction and I was I thought to myself, I

0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.840
<v Speaker 1>wonder if she's being told differently that because it was

0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.320
<v Speaker 1>clear that Steve wasn't saying that at all. Yeah, and

0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.199
<v Speaker 1>it would be like an embarrassing sort of you know,

0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you feel a bit betrayed, whereas it's not like you

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<v Speaker 1>I said about the comment, it's about the betrayal itself,

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<v Speaker 1>but this didn't actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Happen, and that's what That's what I was saying. I

0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.600
<v Speaker 2>was just like, everyone's like, what's the betrayal? What's the betrayal?

0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:51.919
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, okay, do you know, like because

0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.119
<v Speaker 2>when we left that day, I was just like yeah.

0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.600
<v Speaker 2>And like my producer's like, so you're okay with that?

0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah, worry what's wrong with that? Like of

0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:00.840
<v Speaker 2>course we can't just like each other, like you know,

0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.280
<v Speaker 2>it's fine, and like I'm not attracted to him either,

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 2>so you know, it doesn't matter, Like it really didn't matter,

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 2>So it's manipulated. What was that it got a reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>I got good TV.

0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:15.480
<v Speaker 1>They did their job.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is, like I think Steve got ripped

0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.040
<v Speaker 2>for that because like you know, saying that to me,

0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:27.840
<v Speaker 2>But there was such a process to get to that. Actually,

0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.920
<v Speaker 2>like that was like that was good editing.

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.840
<v Speaker 1>It was because I really enjoyed because you talked about

0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.399
<v Speaker 1>it that you would fight just petty things that everyone

0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.960
<v Speaker 1>fights about with Steve, and I really enjoyed the friendship

0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that formed. Are you guys still friends now or is

0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:46.040
<v Speaker 1>it kind of since filming stopped, it sort of hard

0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to catch up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so like during like once we were like friends,

0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.080
<v Speaker 2>like after the reunion, we started talking and it was

0:20:55.320 --> 0:21:00.479
<v Speaker 2>and it was fine. But then once that that actual

0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:06.200
<v Speaker 2>episode aired, that kind of like really hit me and

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.560
<v Speaker 2>and I just like I just couldn't be friends. I

0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:13.160
<v Speaker 2>couldn't talk to him, and yeah, I kind of felt

0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.760
<v Speaker 2>really betrayed and I kind of blamed Steve about it

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:22.320
<v Speaker 2>as well. And yeah, so we've recently started just messaging

0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:28.520
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, and I think that we will like be

0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.159
<v Speaker 2>like like friends. There will be some sort of friendship,

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, like not super close or anything like that,

0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:39.480
<v Speaker 2>but just the same as anyone else on the show.

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.280
<v Speaker 2>But it's a shame to not be friends definitely, like

0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, because out of everyone, we're probably the best

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 2>friends ever. Like, we did have a lot of fun

0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:51.600
<v Speaker 2>and we just did.

0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Laugh a lot.

0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you could tell that we didn't know, but

0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 2>we didn't know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned previously at the beach scene and how that

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit manipulated. Were there any other huge

0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.199
<v Speaker 1>moments that happened on Maths that didn't make it on

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 1>air that you can tell us about.

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, I think that everyone knows about the dinner party, Like,

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:20.080
<v Speaker 2>not the dinner party, the girls night that was horrific.

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:25.680
<v Speaker 2>So that's been talked about. That's probably the most disturbing part.

0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:30.320
<v Speaker 2>And I can understand why they didn't play it, but

0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.520
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't give Haley a really good read.

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.879
<v Speaker 1>So for those who haven't heard, what I suppose, what

0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:39.800
<v Speaker 1>can you say happened during that?

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<v Speaker 2>Go?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like that's that was like.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the worst part of the So I'd never

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.119
<v Speaker 2>seen the girls be mean to each other really, So

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.920
<v Speaker 2>even when Haley and Stacey were arguing about Michael, there

0:22:55.960 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 2>was never really anything quite like vindictive or really like

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 2>mean when they were talking. It was that girl's night,

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 2>and I just think that they just wanted to add

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:13.399
<v Speaker 2>a little bit extra and I think Lizzie knew the

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:18.679
<v Speaker 2>recipe and and basically she like, yeah, she ended up

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 2>breaking a glass and I think she went for Hailey's throat.

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 2>They had to get they had to pull her out.

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was really it was traumatic for everyone

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:34.440
<v Speaker 2>that witnessed it. But it wasn't just that I just like,

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:36.280
<v Speaker 2>and this is one of the things that I had

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:40.719
<v Speaker 2>a problem with. Everyone says that, d why do you dislike Lizzie.

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't dislike her. I just don't like the way

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 2>that she behaved and a few things that she did.

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 2>So that Girl's Night, there was a few people that

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 2>had come back, like Poppy, and she was already quite

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 2>distraught coming back, and Lizzie had given her a really

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:02.920
<v Speaker 2>hard time. Puppy left crying like within three minutes for

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 2>the Lizzie questioning it. And then then Vanessa comes in,

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:11.439
<v Speaker 2>who's also traumatized, and Lizzie's like going for her, and

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, you better stop, girl, because this is

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.439
<v Speaker 2>not cool. You cannot do that. You don't know these people.

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 2>And anyway, so and then she starts on Hailey and

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and then eventually they pulled me out because I kept

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 2>putting out fires, like I was trying to put out

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:31.439
<v Speaker 2>the fire between Haley and Stacy as well. But I

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 2>think that other people had other agendas and the big

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 2>statement would have been like, yeah, Lizzy going all out.

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think it wasn't shown? Do you think

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>it was just too out there to show? Or do

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.399
<v Speaker 1>you think that the producers were favoring some of the

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>maths you know, you perhaps.

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, we all watched it, so with the reunion, when

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 2>we sat down with the experts, we all got to

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 2>watch it, and our reaction was like it was distressing.

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 2>So I know from that night, like Connie and Casey,

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:16.119
<v Speaker 2>they were very traumatized because of the violence, and and

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Hayley was not violent at all, like you know, she

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 2>was like you know, she didn't know what was coming

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 2>for her, and they were quite traumatized, and and they're

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 2>both lovely girls. And I think that the other girls,

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>like Vanessa and Poppy, like they didn't expect to be attacked, like,

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:43.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, by someone that they've never met before. And yeah,

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 2>it it didn't look good because it wasn't good. It

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 2>wasn't actually good, like you know, but then they still

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:54.479
<v Speaker 2>ended up showing Stacy throwing the bread, so which I

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 2>don't understand why they showed Stacy throwing something, but they

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't show Lizzie's or all of her actions.

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's anyway, it didn't fit with the storyline

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 1>that they were producing because I feel like, I mean,

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.199
<v Speaker 1>this is just my opinion from watching the show, but

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it seemed like they brought Lizzie into kind of do

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.719
<v Speaker 1>a little bit maybe of their work stir things up

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 1>a bit that maybe they were pushing her too hard

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and she kind of completely overreacted, but they mld look

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:23.919
<v Speaker 1>bad on them. They wanted a love story with Lizzie,

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>That's what they wanted.

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they also wanted her to be like complete

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 2>and other girl code and that from that night, I

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 2>think that they tried to make her out as she

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 2>was the one sticking up for Stacy and everything like that.

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 2>I just it wasn't like that. It just like, yeah,

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.120
<v Speaker 2>it was totally the opposite. And that's you know, when

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't and not up holding girl code, you know

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 2>that's bad. But when you're actually physically attacking someone, no,

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>that's wrong and there is nothing acceptable in that. And

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I think she knew that that was coming up, and

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>she did a public apology because it was going to

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 2>come out, and then then they didn't end up showing it,

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 2>but we all saw it sitting on the couch and

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 2>we were just mortified. The boys were just like, these

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 2>are animals, like you are actual animals. It was fairer

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 2>and like, yeah, you must be brought up in a

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 2>particular mindset to feel that that you have to attack

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.199
<v Speaker 2>another person. And God, you're taking on Haley. She's like

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 2>she's like like eighty kilos of muscle or whatever, like

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, and she's pretty tall, Like you're not.

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Going to take her on, Like I don't know anyway, And.

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it wouldn't have fit Lizzie's nice school agenda

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 2>and like her love story and yeah, stuff like that.

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 1>Being a mum because you've got is it eighteen and

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty year old? Was it hard to sit there because

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously you've you know, you've got kids, you're a teacher,

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>and these people are maybe they're older, but similar ages.

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 1>It would have been really hard to just be like

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>just cut the crap, you know. And I think that's

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>what we liked about you that you did in your

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:09.719
<v Speaker 1>way call people out, but it was in such a

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>lovable way that it was kind of like, you know,

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>your mum telling you to stop being so ridiculous.

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what people probably found, like you

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>know what, everyone was like would listen, like I kind

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 2>of say, you know what, that's not cool or whatever.

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, and I think that.

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Once Stacy yelled back at me, and everyone's like, oh,

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 2>Stacy yelled at her, it's like and it was it

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>was really quite funny actually, but it was like and

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>everyone was like, oh my god, yelled at me. Show

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like kneeling at your mom. It was always funny.

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think that there was a lot of

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>bullshit that you just didn't want to tolerate and you're

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 2>just like, for Fox's sake, oh sorry, I'm not that's

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 2>just to stop this and just like you know, act

0:28:56.160 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>like a freaking human like the toothbrush thing, like seriously, gosh,

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>do what you would do on the outside. But it

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 2>is it's a different mentality you're in, like this situation.

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>You don't know what you're going to do, so just

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 2>try to be the person you are. But yeah, like

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes because I've been a month for so

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>long and a teacher, it just like would it's still overtake.

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like that sort of toilet you know,

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>putting someone's toilet. Sorry, if someone's putting someone's toothbrush in

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the toilet. That seems so juvenile and like a prank

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you pull at school, not on national TV in front

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>of everyone.

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 2>It was just I don't think he did it like

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 2>for that reason. And yeah, and like to and in

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Dave's defense, like he had probably like he was suffering

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>with his own bits as well. So you know, you

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know what you're going to do in a particular situation.

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 2>And like when I can remember sitting there like three

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.959
<v Speaker 2>or four weeks in and thinking I can't do this,

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 2>and like you know, and that you think, why did

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 2>they cheat in the last seasons? Yeah, I know why

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 2>they cheated because they're bored. They're actually like just like

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, you'd actually do anything just to make your

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 2>life a little bit more interesting, or because you don't

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 2>think about it being on TV and how it's going

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 2>to look like to everyone, because you kind of forget

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>you're filming a show you really do, and yeah, you

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 2>just kind.

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Of want to like, oh, I don't know.

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>But Dave, yeah, he made a really bad mistake, but

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I think he's apologized that he feels really bad about it.

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, but you just don't know what you're going

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 2>to do in that sort of situation.

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Not talking about being bored. I don't know if this

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>played into the boredom. But you mentioned on your Instagram

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>that you and some of the other contestants had a

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>relationship with the paparazzi, which I was so interested in

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>because you know, we obviously see lots of photos of

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys up on sort of Daily Mail and other

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>online sites. Can you explain to us how does that

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>relationship start and what is the relationship between you guys?

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh so the first day, the first day they follow.

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 3>You and it's fear so.

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you like you you don't.

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's called a relationship yet, but

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 2>well it is. Everything's a relationship. So you basically start

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>out and you can react in certain different ways to

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>these people because they know who you are. I don't

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>know how they know you who you are, but they do.

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>And Daily Mail was in the same street that we

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 2>were actually living in. Oh well, so, like was that like,

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>how convenient. Yeah, that was really convenient. And so the

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>guy from Daily Mail he had to go past our

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 2>building to get lunch, so he'd have his camera with

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>him and just take photos anyway, So like the first

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 2>that your producers don't trust him, don't trust them, and

0:31:56.160 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>we hide and do stuff, and then eventually, like you

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 2>might say hello, and then you see them. They followed

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 2>you to like out on your day off, and you're

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>like you might have a conversation, you might meet their friends,

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 2>and then basically, yeah, like some people never become friendly

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 2>with them, and some people do.

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like it pays to be friends with

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>them because the three of us used to work in

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>TV media and you're always friends with the camera guy

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>because they're going to shoot you and either they're going

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to make you look good or look bad. It's always

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>good to have them as a friend. You don't want

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>those like double chin angles.

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 2>But but well, I don't know. I really didn't think

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 2>about it. And then like after a while, like you

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 2>see them every day, like they're there every day, and

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>he kind of just asked them how are they and

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 2>you start this relationship and then yeah, I don't know.

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>It is like and then and you have the opportunity

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 2>to talk about stuff that's really bothering you because you

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 2>know you want it. Like I went through phases where

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get out of the experiment and all

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I want to do is get out, and there's no

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>one you can talk to. You can't talk to the

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>psyche because then she's telling the producers and you can't

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 2>talk to anyone. And you know, you might say to

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 2>like you talk to you don't really trust your partners

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 2>to tell them, and you talk to a journalist and

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 2>then like, yeah, there's a story.

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the psyche is not like they actually have a

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>relationship with the producers. It's not someone independent. That's that's

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>really disturbing.

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Wow, yeah, what they have the math psyche that's there

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>so for all the dinner parties for like for us,

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>but any information that you do share that can be

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 2>shared with the producers as well. Yeah yeah that's so. Yeah.

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 2>And but I went to their doctor and even that

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 2>was shit, so to their GP. So and it's just

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know if that yeah, because I really

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go see a different doctor. But anyway, that's

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 2>what happened, and you don't realize until a little while,

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't even realize the babysitter was a producer

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 2>and like taking notes from all the things we were

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 2>telling them. So wow. Yeah, So like I'm probably naive

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 2>to this stuff anyway.

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>But if you've never been on who in their life?

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, if I went on a reality show, I

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>might be a bit more cluey having worked in TV before.

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>But if you're a tea, I can imagine my mum

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>going on and she'd have no idea. There's so many

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 1>people that just haven't dealt with TV producers before. How

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>are you to know what's going on?

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I know? And the thing is like you just think, well, wow,

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 2>like you know, I'm talking to them, and then and then,

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.479
<v Speaker 2>like you know, I was missing my family so much,

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 2>and I kept talking about that, and then all of

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, I was allowed a weekend to go home,

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like, oh, and then I said, oh,

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 2>why am I let to go home? And they said, oh,

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Teresa said you were struggling. Okay, all right, we can

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 2>use this to our advantage now. So that was maybe

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.839
<v Speaker 2>something that you'd kind of people worked out.

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's talking about the media. There's been a lot

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 1>of articles recently popping up, and they all seem to

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>revolve around rumors about work you've had done in your appearance,

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and as women, that kind of does tend to annoy us,

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.879
<v Speaker 1>that it's just focusing on your appearance. But I did

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.359
<v Speaker 1>love your honesty how you came out and said you'd

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>had a few was it some fillers and things like

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>that because you wanted to do it.

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 2>It's botox? Yeah, so yeah, no, And I said, if

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I have more, like I'll take you on the journey,

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 2>like you can see the whole process. But yeah, because

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I think that with my host, I don't know, like

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 2>someone I had doesn't really like me or they know,

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 2>because yeah, I took that photo with the filter and

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I was lying down and apparently I look like an alien.

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:14.280
<v Speaker 1>And feeling you were just lying on your back.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 2>That was, and yeah, and like it's blanked out all

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 2>my things, so all my features. But anyway, I thought

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 2>people use Instagram filters and use filters.

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Who doesn't do that to their photos?

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm really conscious of it now, I believe me.

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I love that you said that. They because you I

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>think it was a Daily Mail article you shared and

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 1>they had some experts say that you altered this, and

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>you'd altered that, but I loved your honesty that the

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>reason you'd altered it was because he had was it

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 1>bits of white on your black hat, like bits of.

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like, I don't know, yeah, yeah, I've made

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:57.799
<v Speaker 2>a huge mistake because I have, like you know now,

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 2>like washing my hat with a white town and they're

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 2>not allowed to do that, Like that's that's something your

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 2>mom teaches you the first I don't know, she teaches

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.840
<v Speaker 2>you pretty much straight up. I don't watch anything in

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 2>her light house anyway. But then I did and I

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 2>wore that hat and then I just colored it in

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 2>and the coloring in is even really bad. So I

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you've seen it. And then then I

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 2>get another another I don't know why, Yeah, I don't

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 2>know what the go is. But then I get another

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.720
<v Speaker 2>story to say, oh, there's a rare photo of her

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 2>unfiltered selfie with no makeup, just like gosh, I wear

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 2>no makeup every day. Yeah, it was on TV that

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.919
<v Speaker 2>I did, So I don't know. Yeah, but I've had yeah,

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I have had photos and I probably will get lots

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 2>more because I think it's great and yeah, and I've had.

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you're turning fifty this year because you

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>look bloody amazing before after whenever, like you know, before

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>the botox, after the botox, you were looking so good.

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm so MRD.

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember when you're on the show, like the first episode,

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not just saying this, you look

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.839
<v Speaker 1>stunning like you absolutely. I think it's just also the

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>confidence that you had. And I think what people are

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>forgetting is as Amy said, people are surprised that you

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>actually are turning fifty. And you know, if some people

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 1>want to use two plastic, sorry, some people want to

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>use feelers, other people don't. But I suppose it's not

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's a twenty year old that's going out and

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:26.919
<v Speaker 1>getting feelers, if you know what I mean. Like it's

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>something that you should be allowed to do if you

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>want to.

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 2>But like if my daughter wanted to get fellers, like

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 2>i'd letter, like you know, and the thing with the

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:41.720
<v Speaker 2>permanent tattoos, Like we both got our eyebrows done because

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 2>like she's got alopecia so and I don't have very

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 2>much eyebrows either, So yeah, we got that done for

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.879
<v Speaker 2>medical reasons. But then getting the rest done is just convenience.

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and it just works out quite like it's easy.

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I wake up and I go to work like that.

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Some days I comb my hair and other days I don't.

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and I think that even if you are

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 2>twenty or whatever and you want just a little bit

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 2>of enhancement, like, just do it if you want to.

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean you don't love yourself. Like I'm not

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 2>changing my nose entirely, or I'm not changing like the

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:24.399
<v Speaker 2>shape of my eyes. I'm just doing something that makes

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 2>me feel a tiny bit better, just like my hair.

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I've had blonde hair, I've had black hair, I've

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 2>had purple hair, I've had every color hair, Like, how

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 2>is that different to my face? That's the thing.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>If there's something that bothers you, sometimes it's best just

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to go, Okay, well I really don't like this, and

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 1>if this makes me feel a little bit better. I

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's important if the motivation's coming from you. It

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 1>would be different if you were doing something to impress

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 1>someone else. But I think if it's you, you know

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.399
<v Speaker 1>you're helping yourself, and that's something that you really want

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>to do, then why not, Like a who are we

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>to tell you what to do with yourself.

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's I think. I think everyone has their own

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 2>free will and they can do whatever they want. But

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 2>I know my friend is sick of defending me, like

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 2>why is she wearing makeup at the beach? Why? It's

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 2>just like, that's why I put the picture. I wake

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 2>up like that, I look like I've got makeup, and

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 2>if it wasn't COVID, I have my lashes done, so yeah,

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 2>so then I kind of yeah anyway, but it's and

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that I look gorgeous when I wake

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 2>up like I feel gorgeous, because that's the best version

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 2>of me right now. But yeah, I'm just showing you

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 2>exactly what I look like.

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, we touched on that you're turning fifty later this year, which,

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>as we said, we're surprised about. And while you're already,

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 1>in our eyes, very fit and fabulous, we understand that

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>you have some big fitness goals that you're wanting to

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>achieve by your birthday.

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes. So I've actually gained quite a bit of weight

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 2>when I was on Maths. So I gained something like

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 2>thirteen kilos during Maths.

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.399
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't tell you I didn't because I did see

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the file that you put on your Instagram as a comparison,

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>but when you're watching, like you definitely don't pick up

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 1>on that.

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:06.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, I think I can see it when I've

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the Hen's Night and then like the final vows, Like

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I think I've got like an additional neck.

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, that's probably just use you know, when you notice yourself.

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:20.359
<v Speaker 1>But so many people do say they've put on weight

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.240
<v Speaker 1>being on reality shows. On The Bachelor, I know Sam

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Frost put and I think she put on about ten

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>kilos is it? What do you think it is that?

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Are you eating to comfort yourself because you're away from

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>family or what do you think it is?

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you're eating to comfort you're also eating like

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 2>at odd times, and you're eating whenever you can or

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 2>when they give you food, and you'll eat whatever they

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 2>give you, and you're not in your routine. And I

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.320
<v Speaker 2>know everyone says, oh, you had a gym and stuff

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 2>like that, but we can't use the gym if somebody

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 2>else is using it, and so like, yeah, there's not

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 2>enough time for everyone to go to the gym separately

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 2>or yeah, so we didn't get our normal routines where

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 2>we exercise in the morning and do like those everyday

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 2>things that you would normally do. And yeah, I was

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 2>quite depressed, I can tell you, like quite honestly. I

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 2>got to a really really low place and I started

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 2>eating Haig's chocolate like I was addicted to Haiges's chocolate.

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Different so good.

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can't the Academia crunch bar like you can't

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 2>even I can't even order it online.

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Like I can't even order it to get.

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Here because they don't they won't ship it online. It's

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 2>just like we don't have stores. It's good because I'm

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 2>on this diet.

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, because from where we are from South Australia.

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, we'll have to send you some,

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>but maybe not if it's not going to help you.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, you can't send me some like I'd really

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 2>love it treat Yeah no, yeah, because I fell in

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 2>love with those bars. I think I'd spend about thirty dollars.

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 3>A day of us. Yeah.

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm joking, but you do. And the thing is

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 2>you're like your eating is so sporadic, and you're eating

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 2>like a pie at twelve or one o'clock at night

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 2>and you don't normally do that.

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I can imagine getting like macas on the way home

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>from the dinner party. You know those dinner parties that

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>drag on and you're hungry by the time you leave

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>because it seems so long ago. I feel like that

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>would probably be an occurrence on maths.

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, And if somebody got maccas and you didn't,

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and then you just like try to steal a chip

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 2>or a chicken nugget or whatever. And I hate chicken nuggets,

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 2>but you know why I started eating them.

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.839
<v Speaker 1>So you can't just have one macas chip like you

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't stop it.

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 2>But it's just like that. And yeah, I think even

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Hayley said she put on quite a bit of weight.

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that a few of us did. Well.

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 1>We were talking before briefly about how the fact that

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>you have three sisters, and we were kind of bonding

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that, you know, I think anyone who

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>has sisters knows what it's like. Because my boyfriend gets

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>He's always like, what are you guys always arguing and stuff.

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's just normal.

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 2>It is. Well, we're not arguing, we're having a discussion, right.

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>So you were saying you've got a younger sister, and

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>then is it are you in the middle or what's

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 1>it like?

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 2>So there's the three of us that like, there's one

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:22.879
<v Speaker 2>a year older than me and one that's a year

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>younger than me. So I am the middle of the

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 2>first three. And then we've got a little sister that's

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 2>fourteen or fifteen years younger. Wow, and she has all

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 2>the answers, so she knows everything. You just ask her

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 2>listeners everything. So yeah, I should always admit it, so

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 2>you always have one. We have spelling tests, like who

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:48.760
<v Speaker 2>does like like family dinner, Like we'll sit there and say, okay,

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 2>we're doing spelling tests now because we want to be

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the best.

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Is it kind of like spelling b when you can

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>ask for the origin of the word or are you

0:44:58.719 --> 0:44:59.919
<v Speaker 1>just given the word?

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 2>No, it's just because Melissa thinks she's a really good speller,

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 2>and so do I. So yeah, And then I got

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 2>my older sister who's very caring and just yeah. And

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 2>then the younger sister signed Sancha, and then Betty she's

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.879
<v Speaker 2>basically she just would give you her heart if she could,

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>should do anything for you.

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and what did they all think about you

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>going on the show? Because it kind of seems like

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>when you went home, and that was sort of when

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 1>you had that moment where you're like, hang on, I

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:38.320
<v Speaker 1>think Steve's gaslighting me. Were they helpful in you making

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>your decision?

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So like my mom and my mom's reaction, like

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, when I told everyone, my mom had no idea,

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and she thought it was quite genuine. She'd never watch

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 2>the show. Neither had my sisters, so that was a

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 2>real genuine reaction. And they're just like, yeah, so excited

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 2>getting married. And I think the type of people were

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>like is because like my mum always told us to

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 2>be nice, be nice, always be nice. If you're not nice,

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 2>then don't be not don't do anything other anyway, And

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 2>it was like, I think it was more my fan

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 2>my friends telling me that I wasn't acting the same.

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and then my sister and my daughter is.

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 2>My daughter's very pragmatic. She's like so like, yeah, this

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem right, No, that's wrong. So yeah, she's black

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 2>and white and just like yeah, tells you. And she's

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 2>quite smart, that would be helpful. Yeah, she's really good.

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 2>And Betty's kind of no nonsense as well, and they

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 2>just said yeah, doesn't sound right, doesn't Yeah, if it

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 2>like walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 2>it must be a duck. I don't know so, And

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 2>that was really like you could see like I don't

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't act like that. I it was so genuine

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 2>my reaction. It was it's like you see the light

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 2>bulb just go off. Yeah, in my head at that moment,

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like, I don't know so. Yeah.

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's what we love so much about you,

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 1>how genuine you are. And I suppose we got I know,

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you've got to get back to your police recruit. So

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:15.879
<v Speaker 1>we'll probably wrap it up now. But thank you so

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:17.840
<v Speaker 1>much for joining us. We love chatting. I feel like

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>we could chat all day.

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you so much, girls, I really really appreciate it.

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.840
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