1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: We have had some pretty concerning claims being made about 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: some of the behavior being experienced at the Howard Springs facility, 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: the one which is indeed housing flood evacuees. Now, we 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: had some calls and messages yesterday that people were catching 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: buses to Palmeston and other locations, drinking alcohol, damaging the 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: facility then and even becoming violent with others. Now joining 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: me on the line to talk more about the concerns 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: is Jared Maylee, the deputy opposition leader. Good morning to you, Jared, 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Good morning, Kay, Good mornings Now, Jared, what exactly is 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: happening at the Howard Springs facility? 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: Well, Katie, from my understanding, seems to be complete chaos 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: out there at Howard Springs. There seems to be no 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: measures at all in relation to pre calling alcohol, and 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: I'm hearing that people are going out getting intoxicated, coming 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: back even worse, bringing alcohol back in the facility and 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: drinking there and then causing assaults and domestic violence. I'm 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: hearing it's not that bad that the police have had 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: to put a domestic violent safehouse out there. The property damage, 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: salts and all sorts of things are going on there. 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: I think it's time that the labor government come up 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: and be open and transparent and tell people what is 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: actually happening out there, because it seems to be complete 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: Chale Jared, how do you know? 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: How do you know that these things are actually happening? 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 2: Well, just go on to a small place to Katie 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: and I speak to people who are friends who work there. 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: People I just hear stories, and it's really time for 28 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: the government to open up and tell people what's going on, 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: because you know, this is people's lives. There's assaults, there's 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: domestic violence. Is all because it seems that the territory 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: families have failed to manage the alcohol or putty steps 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: in place to manage alcohol into the facility. We know 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: this is a government facility. It's been mi understanding, has 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: been extremely damaged to a point where some parts that 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: have got to be condemned. And it's just because there's 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: no real control over the alcohol and the Labor government 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: has failed to put any measures, and just that they've 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: done an our of screens. 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: So you're saying that there's some elements. You're saying that 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: there's some occasion or some part out at that Howard 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Springs facility that now is off limits due to extensive damage. 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: Or they need to repair it because there's been damaged 43 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: that badly. And as well as that, there's that I 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: understand there's a place which is now a safe powerful 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: domestic violence because of domestic violence. It is so bad 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: there because of the alcohol coming on to the facility 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: and people turning up there intoxicated. 48 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: And so have you had that confirmed at this point 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: in time in terms of whether there is a DEVO 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: safe house there or exactly what the go is. 51 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: Well, the Labor government's seems have cleaned up, and I 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: will be certainly asking some questions next week in Parliament, 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: but this is an opportunity now for the Labor government 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: to come out and confirm it or tell us what's happening, 55 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: because the Labor governments say that they're open and transparent 56 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: and this is a classic example or whether they're not, 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: and if they are, they's time to come out and 58 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: tell territory what's going on and what's the cost to 59 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: the damage, what's going on, what are the plans, what 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: alcohol measures have they got in place? It just seems 61 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: to be complete chaos, Jared, I have we've. 62 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: Got a statement which has been sent to us by Territory, Families, 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: housing and communities. Now, they say the staff at the 64 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: Center for National Resilience remain focused on providing support and 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: assistance to the more than six hundred of vacuees and 66 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: ensuring their safety and well being. They continue by saying 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: police have an on site presence at the Center for 68 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: National Resilience and through engagement with vic Daily Regional Council, 69 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: a night patrol model's been established within the Center for 70 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: National Resilience through the support of patrollers who've been evacuated 71 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: to the facility, and that this night patrol service is 72 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: providing valuable support and engagement with evacuees at the center, 73 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: and that they say our priority remains the safety and 74 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: comfort of those affected by flooding. What do you make 75 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: of that. 76 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: Well, it's just I think I haven't seen it though. 77 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: There's just concerned there must be trouble there because if 78 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: the police have got a facility there and there on site, 79 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: that obviously reduces the police out in the public and 80 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: in the Darwin and Parmesan and that they're doing nice troll. 81 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: That just confirmed there must be problems because there wasn't 82 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: a problem, they wouldn't be having that and the peace 83 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't be required to have an on site presence. So 84 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: it just really confirms that there is seems to be 85 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: complete chaos. And we see what happened in our the 86 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: Springs when chances of who's got his way there was Mayhem, 87 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: and it seems to happen that just history is repeating 88 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: itself again and it's Mayhem and Howard Springs. So n't 89 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: have failed to control. 90 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: What do you think needs to happen here? 91 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: We ultimately the need a government facility is meant to 92 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: be a dry facility, and these the first step would 93 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: be to make sure there's no alcohol coming on to 94 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: the premises to stop that family and domestic violence as 95 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: occurring it. I'm also hearing there's been multiple presentations at 96 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: the hospital from people from that facility, So it just 97 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: seems to be complete chaos and it's all alcohol related 98 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: for what I'm. 99 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: Hearing, Jared, are you experiencing out in the rural area? 100 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: Has there been sort of I know that we're reporting 101 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: this morning talking about anti social behavior around the city 102 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: and certainly had some messages come through that there's been 103 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 1: anti social behavior as well out in the Palmerston area. 104 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: It is on the back of the discussion that Brent 105 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Potter and Mark Monahan, the member for Fatty Bay and 106 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: also for Fong Limb, reportedly attended the latest council meeting 107 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: and question counsel as to why they're not enforcing laws 108 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: and finding people that are sleeping rough in some of 109 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: those locations. Are you seeing any kind of issues out 110 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: in the rural area with this type of rough. 111 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: Sleeping Well really yes, especially around the old Bunning site 112 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: there and through Walliger Holtz Road, there's people sleeping along there. 113 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: I write my pushflake up and down that cycle track 114 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: and I see people sit in the mornings there sleeping, 115 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: and I see evidence of rubbish and broken spirit bottles 116 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: and alcohol right. 117 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: Through that area. 118 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: So it is certainly a concern right across the down 119 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: and you know for the government to go and try 120 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: and blame the council, well, the labor government, they're the government, 121 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: they've got control, they've got the leavers. It's really the 122 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: buck stops with them. 123 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: Well, Jereed Mayley, the Deputy Opposition lad, we are going 124 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: to have to leave it there. Look, we have got 125 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: a couple of people who've been in contact saying does 126 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: Jared had any evidence to support the claims that that 127 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: the facility out there is being damaged. 128 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: Well, look, I haven't got any evidence because I haven't 129 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: been on the facility. But this is an opportunity now 130 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: for the government to come out and be open and 131 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: transparent and say there has or hasn't been. But I'm 132 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: certainly asking the questions that this needs to be alluded 133 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: into and the government need to come clean to territories 134 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: because ultimately it's going to be tax PAS money that's 135 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: got to siss a bill because the Labor government have 136 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: failed to manage that facility in relation to alcohol consumption 137 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: on a government property. It's just embarrassing for the labor government. 138 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: Jared Mailey always appreciate your time. Thanks very much for 139 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 1: having a chat with us this morning. 140 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.