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Speaker 1: It's getting more and more interesting, isn't it. As we

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Speaker 1: a few of their candidates earlier in the week, and

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Speaker 1: CLP have announced well a number of their candidates now.

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Speaker 1: So earlier in the week four strong territory women were

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Speaker 1: right now is the CLP president Shane Stone.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Shane, Good morning Caddy, and good morning to

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Speaker 2: all of your listeners.

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Speaker 1: So Shane, a few extras being announced well today talk

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Speaker 1: us through them. We've got Arafura, Gouger Sanderson and also Casharina.

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Speaker 2: Yes've had those have been announced. And I mean, the

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Speaker 2: interesting thing about this whole process, it's a marathon. It

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Speaker 2: were overwhelmed with the number of people who sought pre

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Speaker 2: Port Darwin we had twelve candidates and a number of

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Speaker 2: them were just exceptional, but only one person can be

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Speaker 2: the candidate, and Robin Carl was selected for that very

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Speaker 2: experienced health professional. So I think that we've debunked a

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Speaker 2: lot of the the imagery of the past where they said, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: longer the case. We probably have almost equal numbers now

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Speaker 3: And if you line all the SLP.

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Speaker 2: Candidates up so far we have four to go, all right,

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Speaker 2: you can say that we are a real reflection of

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Speaker 2: what the territory comprises. I mean, if you take Jensen

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Speaker 2: and she is exceptional. I'd really like to see get

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Speaker 2: She really knows it all, and she's been very involved

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Speaker 2: in indigenous communities Maningarita are now out of Jabbaru for

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Speaker 3: So we've announced, of course.

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Speaker 2: For the seat down in Central Australia.

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Speaker 3: Grooja with Jared Williams.

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Speaker 2: Jared Williams is the grandson of the very famous and

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Speaker 3: So you know the mix is there, we keep going.

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Speaker 1: Has that been a point for you, Shane as the

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Speaker 3: Indeed, in fact, we don't work off quotas.

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Speaker 2: We believe in the merit principle and I'm really pleased

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Speaker 2: I mean, the reality is a lot of people shy

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Speaker 1: Now you said you've got four candidates still left to announce,

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Speaker 1: So what electorates have you got left?

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Speaker 2: Well, that will be ral Lewin yep, where Robin Lamley

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Speaker 4: Don't want to just ask her to join the fold.

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Speaker 3: Look, Lauren, we have huge regard for Lauren, for.

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Speaker 2: Robin, and the reality is that there have been various

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Speaker 1: Go out there, ar Lu Nolan boy, you've also got

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Speaker 2: But there is a candidate been improved by Central Council,

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Speaker 3: Part of the rollout, all right.

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Speaker 2: Ye. Likewise for the seat of Karama, the candidate there

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Speaker 1: Right, so you've already got your candidates for for fong

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Speaker 4: Still looking for those three?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've had a tele telephone interview with a person

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Speaker 1: So Shane, with Karama and fong Limb, when are you

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Speaker 3: Over the coming days?

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll keep an ear out for those now

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Speaker 4: What exactly is being proposed.

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Speaker 2: Here, Well, the proposal as exists under the current Northern

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Speaker 3: To have the carriage of their own affairs.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to have these large organizations telling them

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Speaker 2: to this notion of treaty. Well, it went down sixty

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Speaker 2: He kept talking treaty. I don't know which part of

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Speaker 3: They look, it's pretty basic.

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Speaker 2: They want improved housing, improve roads, better education services. They're

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Speaker 1: And so you reckon all the clp reckons that a

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Speaker 1: really it sounds like the party is going to be

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Speaker 4: You know, on that that you're not going to be

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Speaker 4: You're not going to agree to a treaty.

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Speaker 3: Look, the treaty is very much a white Fellow thing.

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Speaker 2: You talk to people in Indigenous communities and they want empowerment.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you listen to what Helen's secretary had to

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Speaker 2: This whole concept of treaty is basically a white Fellow idea.

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Speaker 2: And it's time that people understood that Aboriginal people are

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Speaker 2: they can do it together with us. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: Shane, one of our listeners is asking, what's the alternative

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Speaker 1: to treaty? What's the COLP proposing.

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Speaker 2: Empowerment on the ground with Aboriginal communities that really want

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Speaker 1: Now, there has been a report I'll just ask quickly

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Speaker 1: NT Independent that Senator just enter Price has told a

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Speaker 1: her safety after receiving messages from a former party member

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Speaker 1: who you wanted to reinstate.

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Speaker 4: Is this the case?

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Speaker 1: I mean, has just Enterprise been in a situation here

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean generally we wouldn't talk about internal party matters,

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Speaker 2: Jacinta had had those concerns. She had never raised them

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Speaker 2: with me, but I accept that if there are concerns.

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't me reinstating a member. It was a

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Speaker 3: Management Committee, and.

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Speaker 2: Management Committee acts as the executive of Central Council.

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Speaker 3: They took the proposal Central Council. Central Council said no, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: And so but are you concerned that somebody that there

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Look, we live in an era where people do send messages.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps they shouldn't send, but I was not aware of that.

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Speaker 2: And in any event, the allegations against the person concerned,

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Speaker 2: certainly try to keep an eye on that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, does she feel the same about the party?

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Speaker 1: Is she happy with the party?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I've she never raised any of the stuff

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Speaker 2: with me. So and you know, we chatted over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: I've got her involved in a few things which we're

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Speaker 2: doing at a state territory level, and I mean, if

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Speaker 2: she does have concerns, I'm very happy to talk the

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Speaker 1: Shane, I'm going to have to leave it there. We've

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Speaker 1: much for your time this morning. Thank you. That's Shane Stone,

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