WEBVTT - #48 Two Doting Dads and Mum feat. Amy Gerrard

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<v Speaker 1>We are very excited today to bring you this bonus

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<v Speaker 1>episode with none other than Amy Girard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Amy Girard. You may know her from her escapades

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram as a mum influencer. Of course, I would

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<v Speaker 2>say the most asked for mum that we've Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>when we put a call out, they'd be like, who

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<v Speaker 2>do you want us to speak to?

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<v Speaker 1>The floodgates opened down and everyone's like Amy Girard. Amy Girard,

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<v Speaker 1>My sister has been like annoying me for weeks, being like,

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<v Speaker 1>when are you going to fucking speak to her?

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<v Speaker 2>Same with my wife. So she's not just a mum

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<v Speaker 2>influenced she's also an author.

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<v Speaker 1>Author, podcast host as well, two podcasts being.

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<v Speaker 3>Beyond the Likes and Beyond the Chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>Only Chaos both brilliant and I would call her an

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneur as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, she's got a lot of fingers in pies, my

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<v Speaker 2>friend pies.

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<v Speaker 1>So here it is. Here's the episode.

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<v Speaker 4>Enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>We are about to start recording it. Just as we

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<v Speaker 1>press start. I don't know if people can hear what's

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<v Speaker 1>in the background. It's a fucking Whooper Snipper.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a full blown whip.

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<v Speaker 1>Roonda my lovely neighbor. Her gardeners have arrived and they

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<v Speaker 1>are getting stuck into the backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>She saw a set malp and she was like wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I was definitely like the neighbor on the other side,

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, get it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't control everybody buzzing noise. That This is the

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<v Speaker 1>downside of recording at a home. You get whipper snippers

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<v Speaker 1>in the background. You do anyway, Welcome back to two

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<v Speaker 1>doting dads and one doting mum.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, my name is Mattie Jay and I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Ash and I am Amy Gerard.

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<v Speaker 3>I really forgot you were.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a podcast all about parenting. It's the good,

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<v Speaker 1>the bad, and the relatable. And if you have come

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<v Speaker 1>for any advice, it's not going to happen from myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe from Amy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sure, take it with a grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we always say that too, just to cover us,

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<v Speaker 2>just so people they'd be like, you're not experts.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam. Let's go straight into sleep schedules.

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<v Speaker 2>The hard hitting questions, which is how do you get

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<v Speaker 2>your kids to sleep?

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<v Speaker 3>Melt okay, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we have time for. Amy. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>apologize one for the gardener's next door that's fine. And

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<v Speaker 1>two for the fact that we've been talking to you

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<v Speaker 1>about this. I know we spoke. First time was last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we pushed it back, we did.

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<v Speaker 1>I got sick.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, I got sick.

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<v Speaker 1>People kept messaging me being like, where the hell is

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<v Speaker 1>the Amy, but like that be deleted already.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm always around, And to be honest, I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>this time is better anyway, because last year I was

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<v Speaker 6>like a headless chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>I scattered if we were calling the podcast curse. He

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<v Speaker 2>was like, ash, You're never sick. And then we went

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<v Speaker 2>literally just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like one of us was always ill. But Todd Wood, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a tickle Amy. Let's let's get right back.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of imagine that as a teenager, you would

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<v Speaker 1>have been someone that was quite a prankster. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>always been like the funny gal?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the class clown. It's cool.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was very much the tomboy. Didn't have a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of female influenced. My mum also very big tomboy.

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<v Speaker 6>Grew up with brothers. So I remember a guy asking

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<v Speaker 6>me out for the year ten formal and I was

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<v Speaker 6>quite flattered. But the way I said yes was by

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<v Speaker 6>wrestling him to the ground and then touching him in

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<v Speaker 6>the face.

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<v Speaker 2>Now running races on, let's gop open and yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>now you're married.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't marry that one.

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<v Speaker 6>But yes, definitely a bit of a prankster, always the one,

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<v Speaker 6>cracking jokes, very self deprecating.

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<v Speaker 3>Self deprecating is always nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Always, that's prizes me. I mean right now people can't

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<v Speaker 1>can't see what you look like.

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<v Speaker 5>But wouldn't be tomboy, not at all, full blown tomboy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, short hair, no, but I did got.

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<v Speaker 5>Curly curly hair about to hear my mum used to

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<v Speaker 5>brush it.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd look like sideshow bob. I've been like putting forks

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<v Speaker 6>into power points.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you grow up with dolls at all?

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<v Speaker 5>We not? No, No, I'm pretty sure that the chainsaw.

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<v Speaker 1>Out there, he won't be He surely won't be the

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<v Speaker 1>whole There's no grass down the side of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's just there by.

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<v Speaker 3>The window, over the window recording through this. Did you

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<v Speaker 3>have siblings?

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<v Speaker 6>Though?

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<v Speaker 3>I had two brothers, I might explain it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Two brothers.

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<v Speaker 6>Spent majority of my childhood outside riding bikes, pushing each

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<v Speaker 6>other down the hill in you know bins, discarded mattresses

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<v Speaker 6>from council cleanups a proper.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you have any thought at all of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to grow up and meet the man

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<v Speaker 1>of my dreams and become a mum.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I definitely always wanted to have children. I wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to have six children. In fact, I had all of

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<v Speaker 6>their names in a diary.

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<v Speaker 1>No more, do you remember what the names were.

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<v Speaker 6>My favorite name of all time has always been Charlie. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>So when I fell pregnant, I said to my husband,

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<v Speaker 6>if we have a girl, her name is Charlie, you

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<v Speaker 6>have no say And he was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever, whatever was a boy?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I like Charlie for a girl only.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have any pushback on that? Or was he like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, you can have that. No.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I was pretty arested as a pregnant woman, so

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<v Speaker 6>he wouldn't dare push back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like, I know how you like to wrestle.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to split lips.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Ryan, your husband, and head Charlie.

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<v Speaker 6>Pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>So you were the class clown ish tomboy. We are

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<v Speaker 3>very academic.

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<v Speaker 6>I was very academic until I found, not found, but

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<v Speaker 6>until I got my first boyfriend. Did really great in

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<v Speaker 6>my school certificate. Then I got a boyfriend. I was

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<v Speaker 6>in year eleven, he was in year twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Was he a bad boy?

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<v Speaker 6>He wasn't a bad boy. He was really nice. I

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<v Speaker 6>made him wait nine months and then I let him

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<v Speaker 6>put his penis inside and then it was game over school.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not want to from here.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh no, they actually called my parents and he's got

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<v Speaker 6>so much potential, and she was doing so well and

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<v Speaker 6>we don't know what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>To her, just smells of cop.

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<v Speaker 6>I was skipping classes. I was Yeah, anyway, there you go.

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<v Speaker 6>Once you pop, you can't stop right it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did your parents try and get you back on track?

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<v Speaker 5>They tried desperately.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>What sort of methods did they try?

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<v Speaker 6>Locking me in my room, that's surrounding me.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all things that are known to work.

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<v Speaker 6>Nothing really worked. I used to wait till they went

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<v Speaker 6>to bed, and they don't sneak out.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the house.

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<v Speaker 3>No chastity bell, yeah like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but well, my dad was really strict. He was

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<v Speaker 6>a police prosecutor. I was his firstborn as well as

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<v Speaker 6>a daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember then bringing your boyfriend at the time home.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he meet your dad?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>How did he respond?

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<v Speaker 6>No? He was fine, he wasn't. It's a two story

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<v Speaker 6>house and his name was Darren. Dad.

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<v Speaker 5>We used to call him Big Daz.

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<v Speaker 1>That was his.

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<v Speaker 6>Nickname because he wasn't big at all. He was beginning boyfriend. No,

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<v Speaker 6>my dad's big b Oh, there's lots of bigs, right, No, Darren.

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<v Speaker 6>His nickname was Big Daz or Tripod because he had

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<v Speaker 6>a big dick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't want to say.

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<v Speaker 3>It, so they called yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>No. He had to.

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<v Speaker 5>He had to be obviously very respectful.

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<v Speaker 6>My dad is very big on respect and manners, and

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<v Speaker 6>so he would have to sit at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 6>the staircase while I went upstairs to get changed or

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<v Speaker 6>do whatever. We dated for two years as well. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think he ever stepped foot in my bedroom that your.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad knows of. Anyway, my dad knows was listening.

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<v Speaker 6>But what happened, let's never tell my dad about this podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>All that did was make me go outside of the

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<v Speaker 6>family home to have sex. So I was in bushes

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<v Speaker 6>and cars and places where you know, not as.

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<v Speaker 3>Safe totally, well the bushes actually.

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<v Speaker 6>But in his head he was like, ou out of mind.

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<v Speaker 6>As long as it's not happening under my roof, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to know about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then when did your now husband? Where did he

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<v Speaker 1>come into the scene.

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<v Speaker 6>I met Brian when I was twenty eight. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>he came over to my house. He met my parents.

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<v Speaker 6>We were playing a game of winking murder around the table.

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<v Speaker 1>What is w's winking murder?

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<v Speaker 6>You divvy out cards and whoever gets I think it's

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<v Speaker 6>the joker or the king, you're the murderer and then

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<v Speaker 6>everyone It's quite odd, right, It's a weird game to play,

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<v Speaker 6>especially when you're introducing your new partner and you're all

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<v Speaker 6>just staring at each other and you got a wink

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<v Speaker 6>on the sly right and not be caught by everybody

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<v Speaker 6>else at the table, and then you have to pretend

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<v Speaker 6>to die, so you have to wait a couple of

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<v Speaker 6>seconds then go.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, and other people have to work out who did that?

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<v Speaker 1>So why was Ryan in your house at a time?

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<v Speaker 3>Who initiated that?

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<v Speaker 6>So we had like a family dinner, Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 6>had come over to meet my.

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<v Speaker 5>Mum and dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Very daunting.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, So we had the dinner. My brothers were there

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<v Speaker 6>with their partners. Ryan came over, We played winking murder.

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<v Speaker 6>Ryan's fiercely competitive. Somehow managed to win Winking Murder, and

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<v Speaker 6>he did this like.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting because your dad having a prosecutor, you'd think he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be all over that, what.

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<v Speaker 6>You would, but you know what, he was all over

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<v Speaker 6>So Ryan, Ryan does this thing where he gets when

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<v Speaker 6>he gets really nervous, he gets extra loud and boisterous,

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<v Speaker 6>and he almost comes across like a bit of a

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<v Speaker 6>cocksucker because he's over compensating for being really nervous. So

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<v Speaker 6>he won Winking Murder and he's kind of picked me

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<v Speaker 6>up and pretended to do this WWE wrestling move where

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<v Speaker 6>he slams me over his knee. God like, it didn't

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<v Speaker 6>hurt me, but my dad after he left was like,

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<v Speaker 6>what was that about? What was that about?

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<v Speaker 1>I never wanted to touch my daughter.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if I'm comfortable with that kind of stuff. So,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, got brought up in the wedding speech, he

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<v Speaker 6>gets reminded about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nothing like a good first impression. And so then

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<v Speaker 1>at what point, how far into the relationship, after you

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<v Speaker 1>guys had met it twenty eight did you think, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this this is the one. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>God, it was just really easy with Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>He's quite the hunk.

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<v Speaker 3>Can say he's pretty hunky.

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<v Speaker 6>He's. Yeah, look the dark hair and the blue eyes

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<v Speaker 6>he is. He's getting a bit of salt and pepper

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<v Speaker 6>in the beard, which I'm into. His dad is quite attractive.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen to this, this is what we want, and he

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<v Speaker 6>is and Ryan does look very similar to him, so

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like tick right. Yeah, I actually think that Ryan,

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<v Speaker 6>as we get older, is getting more attractive. So I've

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<v Speaker 6>done well there. But it was just he's a good time.

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<v Speaker 6>I have more fun when he's with me as opposed

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<v Speaker 6>to have boyfriends. I just wanted to go out with

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<v Speaker 6>girls and then you know, be with him when I

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<v Speaker 6>was hungover on a Sunday, whereas Ryan kind of matches

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<v Speaker 6>my energy. We love a dance floor and it's got

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<v Speaker 6>good banter and he doesn't mind me taking the piss

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<v Speaker 6>out of him and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's key.

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<v Speaker 2>When you can take the piss out of each other,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like makes everything else so much easier. It's when

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<v Speaker 2>like you're too serious. I notice, like when I meet

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<v Speaker 2>couples and they're, oh my god, they can't make fun

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<v Speaker 2>of each other. It's like, how does that work at home?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it like a library where does no one talks like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it has.

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<v Speaker 6>I think a big component of our marriage is we're

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<v Speaker 6>really great friends. Yeah, and I think that definitely helps

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<v Speaker 6>because like the last that fucked off real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always a big believer in like having similarities with

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<v Speaker 1>your partners. Some people are like, it's opposites that are tracked,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, no, you want to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>same page, the same energy. And then when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to having a fan only that can be a tricky

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<v Speaker 1>one because sometimes they tick all the boxes everywhere. Else

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<v Speaker 1>then they don't want to you know, they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have the same once is what you want. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want six kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Also get values like values too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like you could be happy, go luck,

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<v Speaker 2>you're having so much funer. Then it's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want kids. I don't want I don't believe in that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in that. I think it's really important

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<v Speaker 2>that you do, even if it's not exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Fine some sort of.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and we also love the same things, like we

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<v Speaker 6>love eating like we love but like eating out really

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<v Speaker 6>good food.

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<v Speaker 5>He's an exceptional cook. I'm a fantastic eater.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen your stories where You're just like, he's just

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<v Speaker 2>like got to cook up this big thing for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of people coming in, and.

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<v Speaker 5>He loves it. So I was like, that's great because

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<v Speaker 5>I hate cooking.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember kind of saying to Ryan at any point,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start talking about a family.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm pretty sure I spoke about it on our first date.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he asked me like.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I'm not fucking around.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd just gotten out of a pretty hectic, shitty, toxic

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<v Speaker 6>relationship and I was like, I'm gonna lay all my

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<v Speaker 6>cards out. I think he actually asked, do you want kids?

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<v Speaker 6>And I was like, yeah, I do, Victor. Now right

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<v Speaker 6>now we can practice No. I think we discussed it

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<v Speaker 6>on the first day. Wow, we did have a few

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<v Speaker 6>new gronies so pretally like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah at twenty eight as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Around thirty two, so like early twenties you were.

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<v Speaker 3>Clog sticken pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you plan this is when we're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>or did it happen just along the way.

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<v Speaker 5>This story is wild. No, nothing was planned.

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<v Speaker 6>I I didn't make him wait as long as I

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<v Speaker 6>made Big Das wait, Big Da.

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<v Speaker 3>Just big Daer did have a decent sized cock.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, No, Ryan did. I still made him wait a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit. My thing is if you're into them, you

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<v Speaker 6>don't give it up straight away. This is about three weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's actually better than most people today.

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<v Speaker 6>But we had gone to the city to serf, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the city deserf.

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<v Speaker 5>I was living in Bellby Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>For anyone who doesn't know outside of Sydney is what

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<v Speaker 1>you run from the city to the serf to Bondai.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like fourteen It's massive. Everyone runs and then gets

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<v Speaker 1>ship faced.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it sounds amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>It's yeah, I definitely don't do the running part. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>just there to get And so I had been at

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<v Speaker 6>a party in Bondi from like eleven am and he

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<v Speaker 6>had been somewhere else. He was living in Paddington, and

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<v Speaker 6>then we somehow met at Icebergs. It's all a very

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<v Speaker 6>blurry and we went home together and then I I

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<v Speaker 6>remember waking up in the morning and he was next

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<v Speaker 6>to me and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Was like, wow, like I am so hungover.

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<v Speaker 6>And he was like yeah, same, and he goes, so,

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<v Speaker 6>I think you've wet the bed. I was like, what, No,

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't, and he goes, no, no, you definitely have.

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<v Speaker 6>I actually thought it was me to begin with, and

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<v Speaker 6>then I've realized, no, it's definitely coming from Amy's side.

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<v Speaker 5>But I also was just too hungover.

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<v Speaker 6>He was like, I kind of wanted to leg it,

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<v Speaker 6>but I didn't. I'm still here, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>in that very moment, it's all comes down to how

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<v Speaker 6>I was going to play it right, Like if I

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<v Speaker 6>wigged out and got really embarrassed and awkward, it would

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<v Speaker 6>have just made the situation. It was already.

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<v Speaker 5>Straight to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I was just like, oh, yes, pissed, did that

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<v Speaker 6>really happen?

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<v Speaker 5>And I just kind of made a joke about.

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<v Speaker 3>It, like it always happens.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a thing in our family, Like it's not in

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<v Speaker 6>the med it's in the corner. That's what happens after

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<v Speaker 6>a few drinks. And so that was the first night

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<v Speaker 6>we spent together. And then the next night we ended

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<v Speaker 6>up having a shower together, and I again after a

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<v Speaker 6>few drinks, quite a few drinks after a big night.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, so eat in the shower.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't we on the shower, but I actually didn't

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<v Speaker 5>remember having the shower with him.

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<v Speaker 6>And I woke up the next morning, I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>when I go my hair, like I always think about

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<v Speaker 6>the Bachelor. You know, you go on these dates and

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<v Speaker 6>all these girls jump in the water.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, how me. I'd jump in the water.

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<v Speaker 6>Looking like this, and then I'd come out looking like

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<v Speaker 6>Hagrid from Harry Potter, right, like full afro, curly hair.

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<v Speaker 6>And I woke up and I've transformed into the.

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<v Speaker 5>Real met and I was like, why the fuck is

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<v Speaker 5>my hair curly?

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<v Speaker 6>He was like, oh, we had a shower, and then I

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<v Speaker 6>was like wow. So the first two nights that we

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<v Speaker 6>spent together off to Flying Star Beautiful. Yeah, you try

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<v Speaker 6>to get to the first time we had sex was.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to lead to like getting pregnant.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I didn't get pregnant the first time we.

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<v Speaker 2>Had set I thought.

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<v Speaker 5>That did get pregnant very early on.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, But I'm enjoying the first Let's move to the

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<v Speaker 1>third time.

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<v Speaker 6>That's where I got pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you felt pregnant? Was that one planned

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<v Speaker 1>with Charlie.

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<v Speaker 6>No, We've been dating for about five and a half months, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>very early five and a half maybe six months. We

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<v Speaker 6>had thankfully had one trip over to America. He'd broken

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<v Speaker 6>up with his ex. He was meant to go to Coachella,

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<v Speaker 6>so he had these tickets which he couldn't get the

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<v Speaker 6>flights refunded.

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<v Speaker 5>So he was like, do you want to go on

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<v Speaker 5>a holiday?

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<v Speaker 6>And I was like, sure, with you, it's probably going

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<v Speaker 6>to put our relationship into a blender, but why not

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<v Speaker 6>test it out. Yeah, So we went to San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 6>Santa Barbara, La, over to Mexico, Player del Carmen, onto Tulum.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you what best thing we ever did, because

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<v Speaker 6>let me tell you, it's the only international holiday that

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<v Speaker 6>we have ever had on our own.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, okay, so we've had this incredible holiday which kind

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<v Speaker 6>of just cemented our love for each other. Came back,

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<v Speaker 6>moved together in Surrey Hills, went to the races. I

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<v Speaker 6>had a big day there, somehow ended up at the stables.

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<v Speaker 3>So, okay, fast forward.

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<v Speaker 6>A couple of weeks and my girlfriend tells me that

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<v Speaker 6>she's pregnant and I was like, oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>like two days late as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Wouldn't that be funny?

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<v Speaker 6>And she's like, oh, I do a test and I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, I don't even.

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<v Speaker 5>Know Ryan's middle name, Like I'm not doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh wow, okay, And then I did a test and

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<v Speaker 6>my eggs were fertilized.

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<v Speaker 1>We've spoken about this before, very stupidly. Do you pee

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<v Speaker 1>on the stick?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we said that don't you dip the stick in?

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<v Speaker 5>So it depends how full my bladdery is.

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<v Speaker 6>If I know that there's a huge amount of weed

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<v Speaker 6>in there, I will run the goatland and just hold

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<v Speaker 6>the stick there.

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<v Speaker 5>But if I know do I need to pee? Do

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<v Speaker 5>I not? I'll get a cup.

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<v Speaker 3>Clever, then you can dip it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at these two white idiots try to work out

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<v Speaker 2>you dip the stick or shove the stick up or

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<v Speaker 2>shove it across.

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<v Speaker 3>We were just like, fuck, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I put the stick in, and then you will, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we are each other. Do you remember when you

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<v Speaker 1>saw and again very naive here is it like two

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<v Speaker 1>lines or what do you get from it?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I got the digital ones.

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<v Speaker 6>So told me that not only I was pregnant, but

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<v Speaker 6>that I was also two plus weeks pregnant. So which

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<v Speaker 6>makes me, I think, I'll say the two plus or

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<v Speaker 6>three plus, which makes me the four or five weeks pregnant?

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<v Speaker 2>When were you living a party lifestyle around then? So

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of put a real halt on that real

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<v Speaker 2>quick too.

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<v Speaker 6>I bet my twenties were like a party lifestyle. Lived

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<v Speaker 6>overseas for three years. He had a good ten years

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<v Speaker 6>of partying as well. His ex was in music, so

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<v Speaker 6>they did loads of travel, festivals and stuff. So whilst yes,

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<v Speaker 6>we were in the honeymoon period and we were having

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<v Speaker 6>a really.

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<v Speaker 5>Good time, I didn't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 6>I called my mom first, which was a huge mistake

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<v Speaker 6>because I could have procreated with a wombat and she

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<v Speaker 6>would have been like, she would like, yeah, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, before you rush out and buy me

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<v Speaker 6>a bugger booth, I have to let Ryan know, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to call Ryan and I'll have a chat

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<v Speaker 6>with him first, and so, you know, the normal thing

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<v Speaker 6>would have been to like talk to Ryan face to

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<v Speaker 6>face when I got home. But I just sent him

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<v Speaker 6>a photo of the pregnancy desk and send it to

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<v Speaker 6>him at work and then just waited mid meetings.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, I was quite taken back. He was pretty excited. Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 6>That was basically how our first child was conceived.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get married before?

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<v Speaker 6>It was after He proposed to me when I was

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<v Speaker 6>nine months pregnant and looking like.

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<v Speaker 5>A whale, a luga whale.

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<v Speaker 6>I turned into like a rectangle, so not overly attractive

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<v Speaker 6>engagement photos. But we had my daughter in December on

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<v Speaker 6>Christmas Eve, and then we got married the following year

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<v Speaker 6>in November, so she was at our wedding, which is really.

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<v Speaker 1>Weirdly similar to me. And yeah, we got got engaged

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<v Speaker 1>when she was like eight months pregnant, and then got

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<v Speaker 1>married in Evan. But what that? Oh what it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like looking into.

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<v Speaker 3>It also mean on the Bachelor. Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the transition into motherhood was that beautiful? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it elegant? Was it a fairy tale? Was it everything

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<v Speaker 1>you imagined?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>No, No, I always loved kids.

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<v Speaker 6>I love babysitting, I love babies, I love looking after kids.

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<v Speaker 6>I was probably a small child myself until I had one,

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<v Speaker 6>So I actually thought I was a bit of a

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, a bit confident over cold almost Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh sweet, But the pregnancy ruined me,

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<v Speaker 6>and then the birth kind of ruined me. And then

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<v Speaker 6>when she came out, she obviously arrived early, she was

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<v Speaker 6>thirty seven weeks, she was tiny, she had jaundice. The

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<v Speaker 6>midwife was like, you've got a breastfeed her every two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to sound really dumb here jaundice is.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're I was going to ever grow out of it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yellow kid, I've got a really brown kid and a

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<v Speaker 3>really white kid.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I mean, I feel like you can be the

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<v Speaker 6>most confident and prepared as possible, but it still hits

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<v Speaker 6>you like a freight train.

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<v Speaker 2>We always say that you'll never be prepared enough. No

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<v Speaker 2>matter how much you read or you know or get advice,

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<v Speaker 2>You're never going to be prepared. What's actually going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in front of you when it happens.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And I think like there's so much contradicting feedback

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<v Speaker 6>out there, Like you've got Save our Sleep that tells

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<v Speaker 6>you to put them into a routine from birth, and

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<v Speaker 6>you've got everyone else saying that it's bloody cruel to

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<v Speaker 6>do that and to let them cry out. And so

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<v Speaker 6>for everything that you come across, you've got conflicting evidence

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<v Speaker 6>as to why you shouldn't do that way. And so

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, I'm just going to lean into my

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<v Speaker 6>mother's intuition and instinct. And I remember walking in the

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<v Speaker 6>door when I got home and I was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 6>where is the manual?

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<v Speaker 5>Like what do I do next?

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<v Speaker 3>There's no manual, all instinct, right.

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<v Speaker 6>It is instinct, and I think a lot of women

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<v Speaker 6>probably do struggle with that because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 6>are very heavy, routine based. I've never been routine based.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a bit of a fly by your seat kind

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<v Speaker 6>of pants, no, fly by your pants kind of see. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I'm trying to say, and just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of go with the flow, which I feel like helps

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<v Speaker 6>with motherhood because babies throw so many curveballs.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're getting figured out one week and.

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<v Speaker 2>Change it with that ongoing thing where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I slept so good last night, Let's repeat.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly what we did last night.

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<v Speaker 1>What time did I feed them?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, so it was it was hard. I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>any mum who says it's easy would be lying. It's

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<v Speaker 6>always a transition, but it does. I feel like the

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<v Speaker 6>first six weeks it's just like you're getting used to

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<v Speaker 6>your new role. The baby's like, what the fuck? Who's

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<v Speaker 6>looking after me? You know, if you're breastfeeding, that can

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<v Speaker 6>be quite challenging. Well, so it was intense.

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<v Speaker 1>How can I ask eight years ago now? Yes, what

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<v Speaker 1>was it like back then with men taking matt leave?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's changed quite a lot in recent years. Did

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan get much time off? Work.

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<v Speaker 6>He took about two three weeks off, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>he wasn't that helpful that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was going to be The next question was like how

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<v Speaker 3>did he adapulate?

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<v Speaker 6>Like I would rather have had my mom there, just

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<v Speaker 6>because I feel like Ryan, he's a simple dude, right

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<v Speaker 6>Like if I say to him, hey, can you do

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<v Speaker 6>this for me, he'll absolutely do it. But he won't

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<v Speaker 6>take the initiative and do it. He's better there, he's

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<v Speaker 6>better now.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like sounds like my house. It was like, if

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<v Speaker 3>I'd ever told you to do it, that's right, you

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't do it, that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>Whereas my mum would walk in the door and she

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<v Speaker 5>just hits the ground running.

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<v Speaker 6>She's putting on loads of washing, she's putting on dinner,

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<v Speaker 6>she's making the beds, changing the sheets, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 6>She just she's doing all the things that I.

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<v Speaker 5>Need to do and don't need to ask her.

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<v Speaker 1>So, if there's any dads out there who were making

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<v Speaker 1>just about.

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<v Speaker 3>To become a parent and clear, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Would your advice be to them? What are the things

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<v Speaker 1>they can do to help out with their partner around

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<v Speaker 1>the house.

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<v Speaker 5>Just stay on top of the washing for your partner.

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<v Speaker 3>Just one thing.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, no, just get my list out I would

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<v Speaker 6>be doing, especially if your wife is breastfeeding, because the

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 6>onus is all on you. I breastfed Charlie, and again

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 6>because she was small and she had breast milk jaundice,

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 6>they were like, you need to keep pumping her with

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<v Speaker 6>breast milk. So I was breastfeeding her every two hours

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<v Speaker 6>and then burping, changing napp is, settling, and then basically

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<v Speaker 6>breastfeeding again.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was like a dairy cow.

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<v Speaker 6>And so for me, what would have really helped in

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.400
<v Speaker 6>that situation would have been if he had just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of started, you know, helping around the house with the washing.

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<v Speaker 5>And he was always.

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<v Speaker 6>Pretty good with the food. He makes sure that we

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 6>were always fed. But make sure you're fed, make sure

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 6>there's always water nearby, stay on top of the the

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<v Speaker 6>household judies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Washing yea. Yeah, there's only like a split second,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like once every two or three months, where the

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<v Speaker 1>washing is done, and then that shit just piles.

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<v Speaker 2>Right straight away. April does two loads a day. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, sometimes I feel like she's just doing loads

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<v Speaker 2>for the sake of it to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just looking there and it's like two things. And

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<v Speaker 1>then taking the washing out from the war drovee. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just leave it.

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<v Speaker 3>If I stop now, I won't pick it back up again.

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<v Speaker 1>With your relationship with Ryan, because you guys have been

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<v Speaker 1>together for the five months five minutes. Yeah, obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>then have that time when you're pregnant, but you can't travel.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't you're not the same as you were before pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys, so early on, how did you adjust

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<v Speaker 1>to that change of being, you know, parents, when you've

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<v Speaker 1>only been together for such a short period of time.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's funny, you asked, because I feel like even

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<v Speaker 6>now we've been together for what nine years, and I

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<v Speaker 6>feel like I'm still getting to know him. I feel

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<v Speaker 6>like only in the last couple of years have I

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<v Speaker 6>been like, wow, like you are quite a slob. Like

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like all of this stuff is coming out,

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 6>and I think I don't know whether it was a

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<v Speaker 6>blessing or a curse. But because I felt pregnant really

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 6>early on, and because we had Charlie and then we

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 6>got married, and then we had another child, and then

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 6>we had another child, and I was just heavily balls

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<v Speaker 6>deep in mum life and stay at home mum life

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 6>and had all these kids that I was quite preoccupied with.

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<v Speaker 6>Our relationship just coasted along. But now that I'm stepping

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<v Speaker 6>away from that a little bit, I'm like, Wow, have

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 6>you got irritable.

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Bout you're becoming his mum?

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<v Speaker 6>I think I just missed all this stuff. So I'm

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 6>kind of getting to still know him. He was a

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<v Speaker 6>fantastic partner in terms of taking on parenting head on.

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<v Speaker 6>After knowing him for you know, a year or so,

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like if I had done it with anybody else,

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<v Speaker 6>it would have gone tits up real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I knew that.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if I would have had a baby

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<v Speaker 6>with anybody else that soon after meeting them. I know

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.719
<v Speaker 6>that sounds cliche and corny, but I was meant to be.

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 5>I knew that Ryan was my guy.

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Trying to make up for it after calling him a slow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pissing on the.

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<v Speaker 6>Bed, that's like, and he stayed with me after that.

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone wants to, it's like the easiest way to

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>just like sense, check if they're a lifetime partner or not.

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Just piss on them and then wake up and be like,

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>what's it going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>Very good?

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>And then with baby number two and number three. Obviously

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>when you were younger, you wanted to have a family

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<v Speaker 1>of six. After the trials and tribulations of baby number one,

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<v Speaker 1>did you want to jump straight back into being a

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>second time mom.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Charlie was the Dalai Lama. She was a really easy,

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 6>textbook baby. She slept pretty early on. She like, we

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 6>breastfed for a year and I loved it. She was chill,

0:28:58.880 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 6>she was a happy little girl.

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<v Speaker 5>Well whatever.

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 6>So then yes, we got married and I was like,

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 6>let's go for gold. You know, let's keep pumping, you know, six,

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 6>five to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, right, If you said five more, I'd be like, whoa.

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 6>So then I had my second son, no, my second child, Bobby,

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 6>and he was even easier as a baby. He was

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 6>an absolute legend. Couldn't breastfeed him. He had a really

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 6>severe tongue tie. And the first thing I said when

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 6>he came out, he kind of like cannon balled out

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 6>of me ninety minutes.

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 5>And they like pulled him up and I.

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 6>Was like, where is his chin? He's got a tiny,

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 6>teeny tiny little chin and it's quite recessed.

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 5>And it was the first I mean, I love him.

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 5>He's gorgeous.

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 6>But I was like, that was the first line that

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 6>came out of my mouth.

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 5>That I saw him.

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 6>She was like, it's there.

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 5>The fuck he's a beautiful baby.

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Amy nice chin man.

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 6>So it's the family he's been born into. Like that's

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 6>how we show our love with softly bullied.

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.959
<v Speaker 6>So we had quite a lot of issues with him breastfeeding.

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 6>I couldn't breasfeed him. He had his tongue TI revised, but.

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>That fucking sucks. So I swear breastfeeding. If that's good,

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>life is great. If it's bad, that can derail everything everything.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And I think the biggest thing is if I

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 6>had had because I really wanted to breastfeed and I

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 6>loved breastfeeding Charlie.

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 5>We had a great journey with it.

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 6>But my thing is all that matters is that the

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 6>baby's feded and is happy and I'm happy, and if

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 6>that's through breastfeeding, great, And if it's not through breastfeeding,

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 6>it's sure shit going to be formula feeding. So I

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 6>tried with Bobby, and I tried, and I tried, and

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 6>he was just screaming and he wasn't putting on weight.

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 6>And my Titi is like volcanoes. They're angry, they want

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 6>to be milked, and he just couldn't get it. So

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 6>I was basically like milking myself into his mouth. Went

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 6>to get his tongue tie revised, and they had like

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 6>ultra sounded my boob and he was barely connecting with

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 6>my nipple. Revised, snipped his tongue, brought him back two

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 6>weeks later, and then he wasn't even connecting with my nipples.

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 6>So it almost sent him backwards. And the lady was like, Hey,

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 6>I'm just going to give you too, you straight. You

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 6>will never be able to breastfeed, but his anatomy won't

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 6>allow it. His chin is recessed, He's got a tiny

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 6>time and so she was like, I mean, if you

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 6>want him to have breastmeat, you'll have.

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 5>To express every feed.

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 6>I also had a twenty two month at home, so

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 6>I was like fuck that, straight onto formula. Happiest kid

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 6>on earth, slept through the night straight away from eight months. Great,

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 6>loved having two kids, super confident, Mum went out, we

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 6>did everything, started a mum's group. Let's go, let's go

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 6>for gold with a third. We'd spoken about it.

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Ryan was on board.

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 5>Ryan was on board.

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 6>Kind of he Ryan's one of two. Ryan was like,

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 6>do you want a third? Like two is great? My nan,

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 6>who had six, was like, two is really good.

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've got six.

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 6>You had six, and she goes, but two is like

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 6>you have a really easy life and you've got one.

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 5>Kid's always got one. Parent got too strongly.

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 6>I do understand what she's saying now, because three is

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I was one of three, but I do

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<v Speaker 6>always feel like with three one kind of sometimes gets

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 6>a little bit left out.

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<v Speaker 3>Which one is it?

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 6>It's always the middle child?

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Is it just you the middle child? You're bang in

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 3>the middle of five? Though everyone forgot man, were you

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 3>fourth or sex?

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<v Speaker 5>Smack bang in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's tough.

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 5>You're right, you want to talk about it.

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm one of two and I'm the favorite.

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's like it's funny. Where at the

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>point now Ash has had the snip where debating whether

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>or not to go for a third Yep, And it's

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>not me or I yeah, like is it good or bad?

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Give it to me straight?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, listen, I had all three under four years, so

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 6>my I did want four, but I also wanted four

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 6>when I had one at school, so I only ever

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 6>really wanted two at home.

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 5>That was the game plan. It didn't work out like that.

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I know how babies are created, but I

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 6>also am pretty in tune with my cycle, and I

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 6>know when the danger zone is and wh're not.

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 5>And I distinctly remember Ryan and I.

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Say that and you got pregnant accident.

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know what the danger zone is.

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>I think we all know where the danger zone is.

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 6>But I distinctly remember Ryan and I having some adult

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 6>fun one night and I said to him. He was like, oh,

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 6>should I pull out? And I was like, yeah, just

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 6>to be safe, and he was like, I thought.

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>We were playing the winking I'm sorry, and then sure, shit.

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 6>I was pregnant with Kobe. So when my third was born,

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 6>Charlie was only three years old and three and eight

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 6>months three at home absolutely pushed me over the edge.

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 6>I do have girlfriends who have three when the first

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.439
<v Speaker 6>one or the first two are at school, and they

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 6>love it. It's chaos, but it's good, like it's a

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 6>I feel like it's a noisy house. I also feel

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 6>like it's the boys like for me, Charlie again. Dalai

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 6>Lama up fingerpainting in her room makes no noise. But

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 6>my boys do not stop fighting. So it's like WWA

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 6>wrestling all day every time.

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like as they get older too, it's just

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 2>going to be like then they'll get like all sudden,

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 2>all this testosterone. Then I'll go in to pubery and

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I'll be in the house beating each other up.

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeap, yeah, well they already do that.

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>My kind of routine at the moment is the girls

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>aren't in daycare on Thursdays, in daycare every other day,

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes like recently, Marley was six, so I had

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>a Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And I absolutely love my

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>children to dath, but Monday morning sending them off to daycare, I'm.

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 5>Like, hellelujah.

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, yeah.

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I always think, like full time stay at home parents,

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>especially to three kids, like when you're battling, when you're exhausted,

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>when the kids are being a nightmare, how do you

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of pull yourself out of that rut?

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 6>Can I tell you When I had Charlie and then

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 6>I had Bobby and Kobe, and I was a stay

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 6>at home mum. I had fully immersed myself into that

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 6>and I knew no different, right. I actually feel like

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 6>what I'm doing now is harder because I'm one foot out,

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.919
<v Speaker 6>but I've still got Kobe Monday and Tuesday. And then

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 6>what I'm still doing is I'm still doing all the

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 6>stay at home mum shit.

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 5>So I'm still doing all the school lunches and.

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.399
<v Speaker 6>The dropping to school and then picking them up from

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 6>school and the extracurriculum activities and all of that kind

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 6>of stuff. But I'm also working. So all I've done

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 6>is increase my workload. But when I was just a

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 6>state at home mum, it is relentless, but I was

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 6>so used to it, I knew no difference, So I

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 6>was kind of just like, I made sure that I

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:08.439
<v Speaker 6>was always getting out play days, mums, group fucking rhyme

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 6>and time as long as I had other moms there,

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 6>and I was always trying to converse with adults, it

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 6>was fine.

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 5>Kids are always around house.

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 6>Always looked like I've bin ransacked by bin chickens, but

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 6>it was fine. Whereas now and I'm loving my work

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 6>and I'm loving being able to jump onto the podcast

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 6>and talk and be creative on socials and all that

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 6>kind of stuff. But then trying to switch back into

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 6>mum mode. It's that I find quite difficult.

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, yeah, it's the balance, Like, yeah, I suppose

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 2>that you're saying you're fully focused on one thing, it's

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>much easier.

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 3>But if you're half focused on something, that's kind of like, I.

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:49.479
<v Speaker 5>Feel like I'm doing everything in my life. Yeah, at

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 5>fifty percent.

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>But also it's like your work. The schedule is always changing,

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>so it's not as if your work can be confined

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:57.799
<v Speaker 1>to just one day, like on a Wednesday, because it's

0:36:57.800 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>always going to spill out to the other day. So

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:01.360
<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to hang out with your child and

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, your phone's ringing and then

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you've got emails and.

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 3>You tat Nash, you got to go and record.

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well that's exactly right as well, like with Instagram

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 6>and content creating, there's no structure and writing the book,

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 6>I just had to write it around my kids and

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:19.240
<v Speaker 6>podcasting and trying to get guests on and the emails

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 6>are constantly going off, so you're trying to be a

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 6>present parent, but you're also like, I would rather be

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 6>doing my emails because I don't want to play cafe

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 6>with you for the.

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 3>Time, and you really.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you catch yourself and you're like, fuck, I can

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.800
<v Speaker 2>do this later, yeah, and then ten seconds later your baculate,

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I could do this now.

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 5>So here is cocomelon.

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask about Charlie and her relationship with

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>your husband, because I've spoken a lot about the fact

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 1>that Lola, who's my second born, absolutely hates me, hates

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>me so much, yeah, but will kick me in the

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>face on purpose multiple times if I even look at

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>her when she's in our bed. And you've mentioned that

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Charlie and Ryan don't quiet get along as well as

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the other kids.

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 5>She's not as violent as Lola.

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 6>But Charlie, even from birth, has just been a mummies girl,

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 6>through it through. It's not even she has an aversion

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 6>to her dad. She just doesn't. She kin'd of just

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 6>not interested in men. Great, let's hold onto that.

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 5>Let's be like.

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 6>Ryan, so I think as well, because we are done

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 6>having kids. Ryan when it had the snip after the

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 6>third Ryan desperately wants to have a little daddy's girl,

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.959
<v Speaker 6>and the more he tries, the more she.

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 5>Is just pushing back on him.

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>You can smell the desperation she can a mile away.

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 6>She's also start she's very switched on now, so now

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 6>she uses it to her advantage. So if I am

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 6>going out or something and she's like, you know, Lev,

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 6>you're not going leaving me with Dad, and she is

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 6>so familiar, and then Ryan will be like, but Charlie, Charlie,

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 6>I'll let you stay up. Like you can have vice cream,

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 6>you can have desperation, you can watch, you can watch YouTube.

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 5>Kids are an extra hour.

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 6>And she's like, if I say no to things, which

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 6>I say no to her a lot of times she

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 6>goes and ask.

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 5>Dad anything she wants.

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 6>Like the bribing of Charlie to to get her to

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 6>love him is pathetic.

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:21.439
<v Speaker 5>And it doesn't work.

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 6>I can say, only him, Ryan, it's not working, Like

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 6>maybe just play it cool and let her.

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 5>Come to you, but he can't. I don't know what

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 5>it is. She's even like that with my dad, with

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 5>her pa. She's a girly girl. She loves the girls,

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 5>she loves the Army.

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 3>What you're saying, keep working at it.

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.399
<v Speaker 1>But it's comforting to know there's other dads out there

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>going through it, but also ship to know that.

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.439
<v Speaker 3>Also, just don't be desperate treated me and keeping keen.

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Maybe you've got to try that, said that to him.

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but he's treated me and he he doesn't know

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:58.800
<v Speaker 6>how to quite do that. Like he'll get really angry

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 6>at her and then she's hysteric, crying in tears, and

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh.

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 3>It just made it worse. Yeah, yeah, but you.

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 6>Know what, I was a bit like that. I'm actually

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 6>only close now with my dad and.

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I what age did that kind of start to shift?

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 6>Shifted when I moved out, when I stopped living with

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:15.919
<v Speaker 6>You've got.

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 2>A long way to go, But I have faith because

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like she's she hasn't always been like this, right.

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 2>She did used to love like I've seen footage of

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 2>them together and it was like there was love there

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 2>and just lately, so I think that you've got an opportunity.

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 2>What Amy's saying is from day dot, girly girl, I

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 2>think you've got an opportunity to turn it around.

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 6>Did something happen?

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, yeah, did you drop her?

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I think the dummy well kind of similar to your situation.

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>It was always a case of like from birth, I

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>couldn't really settle her. It was always Laura. She would

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>only and then she didn't sleep that well in the

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>cot would sleep in your arms, but not in my arms,

0:40:57.760 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>in Laura's arms. So it was always a case of

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>she definitely preferred mum. But then the real changer was

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>when we took away the dummy, and that was just like.

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't me, it was he got blamed though. I

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 2>think it was kind of like I remember we were

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 2>recording over that time. It was close to Christmas and

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 2>like it was it was very tense about yeah, yeah,

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:20.439
<v Speaker 2>and then you had to give.

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 3>It back eventually, didn't you.

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>We folded, folded, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I was just with some friends on the weekend. It

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 2>did the similar to you, like the Santa thing, and

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:31.879
<v Speaker 2>then they folded baby and they were like.

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Nah, dummies is one that was really really hard. Is

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>it any part of parenting, like big transitions that you've

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>struggled with?

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 6>Charlie had a dummy, But this is probably where I

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.359
<v Speaker 6>went wrong as a first time mum. I had given

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 6>her a dummy, not just for sleep, just for at

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 6>any point on the day.

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 3>I'd be like, yeah, for sure, it's kind of like

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 3>a mute button.

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 6>She would be sitting on the couch just watching the Wiggles.

0:41:59.880 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, dummy, I don't know why and so she

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 6>was like a dummy addict. And then at about eight

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 6>months I found I had I had put about forty

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 6>dummies in her cot because she would wake up and

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 6>she'd be looking for it.

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 5>So I was like, here you go, here's forty of them.

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 6>I'll scatter them around and she would just pick them

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:22.320
<v Speaker 6>up and she just throw them out of the cot. Mam,

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 6>pick them up, throw them out of cot. And I

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 6>remember ringing Chicillian and they were like, you're gonna have

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 6>to wean her off the dummy k because she's playing

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 6>with you now. Even when we were at Westfield, she'd

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 6>put it in, she just throw it and so I'd

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 6>be like, oh, he's another one. I've got forty of

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 6>them in my back and just throw it. So I

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.720
<v Speaker 6>was talking to my mom about it, my mom mother Teresa,

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 6>a but also very tough love. I said, I've got

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 6>to win Charlie off the dummies.

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:45.959
<v Speaker 5>But I'm a massive pussy.

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 6>Like and I love sleep, so I can't do the

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 6>first night and she was like, bring around, and so

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 6>I remember I was like perfect. I had a wedding

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<v Speaker 6>to go to. Mum was already going to be babysitting

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 6>and Mom was like, I'll do the first night for you.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom was up the.

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<v Speaker 6>Entire night and she was just settling her without the dummy.

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<v Speaker 6>And I got there the next day and she was

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 6>like bags under her eyes, and she said, don't you

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 6>dare give her a dummy tonight. I've done the first night.

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 6>I've broken the camel's back for you. You got a hold firm.

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<v Speaker 6>And so the second night it was.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom would have killed me. The second night was

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>Tough, and she did wake a couple of times, and

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<v Speaker 6>I just went in and suited her.

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<v Speaker 5>Third night she slept straight through.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go it. I mean, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>that was it. You were more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we did.

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<v Speaker 5>We did a couple of weeks and then it just

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of weeks would have broken me.

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 6>I would have been like, have all stiffy tape one

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<v Speaker 6>to your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>I never had that problem. I thankfully. Once we just

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<v Speaker 2>took them off, that was it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's funny because with the boys they were so easy.

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 6>With Bobby, I was like, fuck, I'm not making that

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<v Speaker 6>mistake again. So his dummy was only for bedtime.

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<v Speaker 5>And then when.

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<v Speaker 6>Bobby was about three, I was like Hey, buddy, it's Easter,

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 6>and what happens tonight is Easter Bunny comes around and

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 6>he collect every single dummy and he takes them to

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 6>all the newborn babies, and.

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 5>So let's go around.

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<v Speaker 6>We collected every single dummy of his and I said,

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<v Speaker 6>and we'll put it in the basket and then he

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<v Speaker 6>might leave you some chocolate instead, and he asked yep.

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<v Speaker 6>He asked for it once the next night, and then

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<v Speaker 6>never again. And then Kobe again had the dummy for sleep.

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:24.839
<v Speaker 6>And then when he got a big boy bed at two,

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<v Speaker 6>which was the worst mistake of my life, I was like, hey,

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 6>they were sharing a room. I was like, Bobby's got

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<v Speaker 6>a big boy bed. You've got a big boy bed.

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 6>Now dummy's gone, and he was like, yeah, big boy

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 6>threw the dummy at me, never asked for it again.

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.879
<v Speaker 6>The boys were surprisingly really easy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even remember Macie having a dummy, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar had it more, but like I only really young,

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and then he sort of I don't really recall.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't know if it was hard work.

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<v Speaker 1>As I know, you have to head off very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually do have a couple of listening questions before

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<v Speaker 1>you go, if I can just fire them at you. Yeah,

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the first one is one that I don't understand, but

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you might. I hope you can enlighten me, they said.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask her about the pair?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, actually April. April asked me the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the pair?

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<v Speaker 6>Pair?

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<v Speaker 3>We have a pair at home, do you what's the pair?

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<v Speaker 6>Is an incredible Let's call it a sex toy, because

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 6>that's what it is. But it's not like a big, phalic,

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 6>pink looking thing that you ram up inside you. It

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.400
<v Speaker 6>could pass as a paperweight. It is in the shape

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<v Speaker 6>of a pair. It's called the Essential Vibe, but I

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 6>nicknamed it the Pair about two years ago.

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 5>And it is stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of those suction ones. No, I've actually never

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<v Speaker 1>used a toy.

0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:42.800
<v Speaker 3>When you come over and excellent use my wife.

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:45.879
<v Speaker 5>No, it's not for you, although you could probably press

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<v Speaker 5>it against.

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Your I've never used a toy with Laura.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 5>You need to get her a pair. You might become redundant.

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 6>Though.

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 5>It's a good time. Does April like it?

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Loves it?

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:57.799
<v Speaker 3>Do you use it?

0:45:58.480 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? So you use it together?

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 3>How during during?

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Not on yourself?

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 6>No? No, No, it's waterproof, so we take it in

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:09.800
<v Speaker 6>the shower.

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<v Speaker 5>Is this appropriate for a parenting?

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:14.280
<v Speaker 3>Appropriate mums?

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<v Speaker 5>All moms need the pair Amy fifth.

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<v Speaker 3>Good guys, we'll put in the notes of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your biggest fear?

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<v Speaker 6>My biggest fear is losing my parents because I am

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.400
<v Speaker 6>a small child all of a sudden, all over again.

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.240
<v Speaker 6>I think when I had my own children, I was like, well,

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 6>I was such an asshole to my mom and dad

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 6>and I love them so much and they were so

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 6>good to me, and I have I always respected them

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 6>and I've always loved them, but I have so much

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 6>more respect since becoming a parent myself, and I will

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 6>perish when they pass on.

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It was like, now my mom is seventy three.

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>She just left the house before we started recording, and

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my god, you're really old.

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 6>Yes, my dad just had a birthday and I rang

0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:58.280
<v Speaker 6>him to say happy birthday.

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 5>Was it was like, do you know how old I am?

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 6>I was like sixty one, sixty two and he was

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 6>like plus six and I was like, what, you're sixty eight?

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:09.279
<v Speaker 3>All yeah?

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 6>And I was like, oh, I felt weirdly anxious about it.

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:16.439
<v Speaker 3>Don't no one startle him?

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Very last question is from Madeline, and she says, what

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 1>is the secret to successfully juggling everything? Fuck?

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 4>I would live.

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>One of those parents who was nailing the juggle being

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.760
<v Speaker 1>a mum, but also then doing multiple other projects. For example,

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:37.799
<v Speaker 1>after this, you're going to go straight into recording the

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 1>audio book.

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, for your book.

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 6>No, I'm going to the podcast tomorrow. I actually don't

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 6>think there is a secret to it. I actually don't

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 6>think anybody knows the answer. I think every mum and parent,

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 6>every dad out there as well. I think everybody's always

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 6>just doing the best that they can. It's funny because

0:47:57.480 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 6>Madeline is it. Maddie obviously perceives me to be able

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 6>to like she probably thinks that I'm doing a really

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 6>great job at juggling it. I mean, I sent my

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:08.919
<v Speaker 6>kids to school in the wrong uniform yesterday. I am

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 6>constantly dropping balls, and I get riddled with guilt. I'm like, oh,

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 6>I didn't you know. I didn't get back to this

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 6>email in time. And I also didn't spend enough time

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 6>with one of my kids, and one always feels left out.

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 6>And I've seen with Ryan again, I have served nuggets

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 6>for like five nights in a row, and there's no

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm definitely not juggling. I don't think anybody is. I

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 6>think we're all just doing the best we can.

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 3>That's all you can do.

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 2>You're constantly working at it, right, and next year it's

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 2>going to be completely different because your kid's going to

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 2>be older.

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's right.

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Goes back to when you said if any parent out

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:42.440
<v Speaker 1>there says that it's easy.

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 2>And Matt mentioned your book. You've got a book that's

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 2>currently pre sale yourself in.

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is.

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 6>Myself.

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Although you can get no work done into that pair.

0:48:55.840 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 6>Strap yourself in. Yes, that is my biggest achievement. I

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 6>mean after having three children. Of course that was hard.

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 6>That was a hard.

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 5>Slog writing that.

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.879
<v Speaker 6>But I think it will be a good read. It's

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 6>mostly for women, I'm going to probably say that. And

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 6>it's not just a parenting book. It's all about the

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 6>expectations that we have that we put on ourselves sometimes

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 6>in life and what the reality of them actually look

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 6>like and how they never fucking marry up right. But

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 6>it's not just parenting and stuff. It's it's marriage. You know,

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 6>what we thought marriage was going to look like versus

0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 6>what it really is like. And your sex life and

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 6>your career and friendships and all of that kind of stuff.

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 1>So and it's it's not out right now, but it's available.

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 6>For pre It is available for pre sale. It is

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 6>coming out on the third of April. There'll be a

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 6>few little a huge pr schedule, which is wild Na

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:50.439
<v Speaker 6>will be there.

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you better be as.

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Two of your biggest male supporters.

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm going to bring my par along, bring your.

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:00.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and get ge Laura a pair.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll add a link to the presale in the show

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 3>notes for.

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Amy Gerard, thank you so much and sorry it's taken

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.439
<v Speaker 1>so long to sit down and get this interview done,

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:10.720
<v Speaker 1>but it's been an absolute pleasure.

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.359
<v Speaker 3>Thank you. Than you so much for coming. You appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've liked this episode, please of course leave a

0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 2>little review on Apple Podcasts.

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 1>Do you know where We've started getting some really nice reviews? Spotify?

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you can do it there too, do it on both.

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean you asked my preferences is the old Apple podcast.

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:32.279
<v Speaker 1>But mate, some lovely reviews that I've read read through.

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:34.359
<v Speaker 1>You should have a look. They will fill your cup

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>right up good.

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 2>And we also mentioned in that episode that Amy has

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 2>a book on presale, so we'll also put that in

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 2>the show notes for you as well. Maybe we'll check

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 2>that little pair discount play in there as well.

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Was keen to sink their teeth into pair for one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ras?

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<v Speaker 3>Very good And.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's any other mums or dads you would like

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<v Speaker 1>us to interview, please throw your suggestions waging. We'll do

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 1>our best to make it happen and we'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>guys next Wednesday for a normal f Thank Give F

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<v Speaker 1>two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 1>throughout Australia and the connections to land, sea and community.

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<v Speaker 2>We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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<v Speaker 2>and extend that respect to all.

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<v Speaker 3>Aboriginal and Torrestraight Islander peoples today. This episode was recorded

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<v Speaker 3>on gadagal Land