1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken, the podcast it is not afraid to 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: say exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy, Kate 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: and Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: have identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: covers all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: That is so fetch Thank you, Welcome back to Outspoken. 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: It's just Kate and I on the mics today because 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Amy is holding down the ford at Hula Media. It 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: is such a crazy time of year, being so close 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: to Christmas, so you've just got us today. But Kate, 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: we are super excited because we're going to be talking 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: about some influencers that Amy is not really interested in. Yeah. 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: I can't wait to get into that. But before we do, 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: I wanted to discuss quite a deep topic with you, Sophie. 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: Now you know my love for Mexican food, and I 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: want to know why is Goozman and Gomez the influencer's 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: number one Mexican choice? What about Sombreros? Why Sombreros always 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: forgotten to me? It is the elite Mexican food. It 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: is the number one choice. 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: But they're always going on about as they call it gyg. 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: Maybe they just don't have good taste when it comes 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: to Mexican food, And I do think in Adelaide we 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: have way more Zambreros than we do have Guzman and Gomes. 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: I've actually never had Guzman and Gomers, so I don't 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: think I can give a definitive answer of what is better. 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: Don't waste your time. It's nowhere near as good as zumbreros. 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people are going to 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: be screaming while listening to this podcast, but I feel 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: like Sombrero's is way better. There's something about that source. 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: I wish I could buy it. Well. One influencer has 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: put Guzman and Gomes in the spotlight this week. It 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: is Mitch Third. Now, Mitch Third is an entrepreneur and influencer. Now, 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: for those who've been listening to the podcast for a while, 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: they will know there have been many instances where Mitch 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: has raised eyebrows for filming instant stories on his phone 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: whilst driving. Earlier this year, we spoke about Mitch filming 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: whilst talking about his brand new Tesla that he was 38 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: taking for a bit of a test drive. Now, Mitch 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: is in hot water again for filming himself going through 40 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: a drive through at Guzman and Gomez. Now, he was 41 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: in the driver's seat and whilst he's there, he started 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: filming himself as the fast food worker passed through his 43 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: coffee and burrito, and you can see the fast food 44 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: worker's face. She does not look impressed to be in 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: the background. She looked very uncomfortable. I would hate it 46 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: personally because there's something about. 47 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: Being in your work uniform when you work in the 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: fast food industry. I mean, I never actually worked at 49 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: McDonald's or KFC, but I worked at Baker's Delight, and 50 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: you had to wear a very unflattering uniform with a 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: hannet and it wasn't a great look. 52 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: Definitely not Now this instant story, it kind of got 53 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: a little bit desperate because he ended up tagging Goosemen 54 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: and Gomez in the post and wrote sponsor me now 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: goodsmn and Gomes actually reshared this post and they didn't 56 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: write anything to Mitch. So Mitch responded to them saying, guys, 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm serious. Now. The Mexican fast food chain replied to 58 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: Mitch saying, now, we can't condone iging and driving, but 59 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: you keep creating amazing content and eating GYG and we 60 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: will see where we get. Mitch then wrote, cut the shit. 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: I literally pay the rent at Goosei's burly. Let's make 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: it happen now. This whole interaction, which he shared to 63 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: his Instant story, reaked so much of desperation over this sponsorship, 64 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: and I feel like this would be U Kate trying 65 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: to get Sombreros on board as a sponsor for our podcast. Yeah. 66 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: I've only mentioned there about one hundred times, but they're 67 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: not picking up on it. No. 68 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: But in all seriousness, it is funny seeing influencers beg 69 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: for sponsorships because I mean, I suppose I give him 70 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: praise in the fact that it's actually a product that 71 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: he stands by, but then just eat it and don't 72 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: go on about it. 73 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: I do love the fact that GYG has created this 74 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: new phrase called ig and driving, and the fact that 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: they did say we do not condone this activity because 76 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there are so many influencers doing the wrong 77 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: thing at the moment, filming themselves driving. I don't know 78 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: how the police or people don't send in the vision 79 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: to the police and they copy fine because it is 80 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: so dangerous to be doing this. And yes, I understand 81 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: he was in a drive through, but that you could 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: still run into in the back of someone's car. Someone 83 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: could be being an idiot and walking across the drive through. 84 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: You've got to be so careful when you're driving. I 85 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: also have to note that in this instant story that 86 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: he filmed, he is sporting a new mullet and earring. 87 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: And people always do say that after a breakup, you 88 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: change your hairstyle up, and I think that is what 89 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: is going on here. He's going through a bit of 90 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: an existential crisis where he's mixing things up. Maybe he's 91 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: a bit more desperate for sponsorship because he's no longer 92 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: with Tarlia Scaines. He's got to be begging for the sponsorships. Well, 93 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: on that topic, do you know much about the rumors 94 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: that he's meant to be dating Lily Brown? I think 95 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: that she and she's just sided with Mitch because presumably, 96 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: as we reported on a couple of months ago, that 97 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: it does appear that Taralia started dating someone very soon 98 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: after she and Mitch broke up. So maybe Lily doesn't 99 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: like the way that Tarli has handled things. 100 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: Well, you're saying that because Lily Brown has actually unfollowed 101 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: Tylia Scanes and a lot of people thought that might 102 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: be a sign that Mitch and her are dating. But 103 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like a pretty normal thing for 104 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: friends to pick sides, and it does seem like Mitch 105 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: is stronger friends with Shanni and Lily than Tylia was in. 106 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: The first place. Now back to the video, I feel 107 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: like we do really have to spare a thought for 108 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: all of those poor people working in fast food who 109 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: get stuck in the background or get involved in these 110 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: influencer challenges, because there's so many viral challenges surrounding MacDonald's. 111 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: Hungry Jacks and Pete drive through said, yeah, drive throughs, 112 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: and people really do take the piss. I remember watching 113 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: a video a couple of years ago where UK influencer 114 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: Anastagia kings North went through the same McDonald's drive through 115 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: fifty times, and this was the same drive through that 116 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: she did all of her kind of viral videos through, 117 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: and I feel like these people were just sick to 118 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: death of her. I think that you should be banned 119 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: if you're doing something like that. I mean, maybe not 120 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: if it's Anastasia kings North, because she does have a 121 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: million followers and it is good exposure for McDonald's. But 122 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: if there was a normal person driving through fifty times 123 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: and causing a nuisance when they not tell them to 124 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: piss off, Yeah, I just can't imagine. I mean, it's 125 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: already a depressing place enough, probably to be working in 126 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: fast food, to then have to deal with these dickheads 127 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: who were so privileged and they're taking the piece out 128 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: of you while you just try to do your humble job. 129 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: You don't give us one fucking sauce. I told you 130 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: to check the bag. I told you. Are you fucking kidding, babe? 131 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: I said, I checked the bag and I saw why 132 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: was leaping out so aside and consumed that they would 133 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: have given us free like her asks, No, that McDonald's 134 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: never gives you bullshit. Molly may Haig has given an 135 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: unprecedented look into her life. In an interview on podcasts 136 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: The Diary of a CEO, the twenty two year old 137 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: creative director of Pretty Little Thing opened up about how 138 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: she'd become the biggest influencer in the UK. Firstly, Kate, 139 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: what did you think about the interview? Well, the thing 140 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: that first took me by surprise was how long the 141 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: interview was. So it went for an hour and forty 142 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: two minutes, which is pretty unheard of when it comes 143 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: to celebrity interviews, and Molly May doesn't really give that 144 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: many interviews herself. Now, the other thing that hit me 145 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: whilst listening to the interview was this completely different side 146 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: of Molly that I got to listen to. 147 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: Now. 148 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: I obviously don't know her personally, but I have watched 149 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: every episode of her series of Love Island and also 150 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: a lot of her vlogs, and I've never heard her 151 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: speak the way she did in the interview. She came 152 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: across as unapologetically driven, business savvy, and confident in her ability, 153 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: and she also very much owned her success and her 154 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: status in the influencer space as the top dog. Now, 155 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't really think it is an accident that we 156 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: haven't seen this side of Molly before on her YouTube channel, 157 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: because Molly did make it very clear in the interview 158 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: that she uses YouTube as a tool to stay relatable 159 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: to her followers. This is what she said about the 160 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: platform to. 161 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: All my influencer friends, say start YouTube. Start YouTube if 162 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: you want engagement to go, if you want your audience 163 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: to put in another with you. If you want people 164 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: to understand you more, you have to start YouTube. Because 165 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: Instagram is nothing. It's a picture. I post one picture 166 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: a day. What's anyone gonna learn from that picture? And nothing. 167 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: YouTube is where it's at. That's where they learn, That's 168 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: where they engage with you and understand you and believe 169 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: in you. 170 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: I could not agree more with what Molly said, and 171 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of influencers out there, particularly 172 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: in Australia, that could learn from her, because, as she said, 173 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: it is so important for people to know who you are, 174 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: what you're about, and to be relatable and YouTube is 175 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: the best platform to do that. And I've seen a 176 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: lot of influencers that typically post a lot of bikini 177 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: and glamor photos that try and go onto YouTube, but 178 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: they just missed the mark in the terms of relatability. 179 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: And Molly May is someone that has a lot of 180 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: expensive things. I mean, we'll go into the fact that 181 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: she actually had over eight hundred thousand pounds worth of 182 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: her property stolen. However, that aside, she has this ability 183 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: to show off her very expensive things and a very 184 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: extravagant lifestyle with still being likable. And relatable and it 185 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: would be a really hard balance to get right, but 186 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: she does. 187 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: It so well. As a thing, every time I watch 188 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: a video from Molly May, I leave it feeling really 189 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: warm inside, like I've seen a friend. And I think 190 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: that is the magic of Molly May and part of 191 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: the recipe to her success. 192 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I did really enjoy seeing this 193 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: new side of Molly May, as I think it's very 194 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: easy for people to push a narrative that she just 195 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: fell into this fame and success and it was all down. 196 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: To Love Island. 197 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: However, it really is completely incorrect because, as Molly said 198 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: in her interview, everyone who leaves the villa is on 199 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: the same level playing field and it's up to them 200 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: where they go with it. And it's interesting because it 201 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: does seem like the topic of Love Island is a 202 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: difficult one for Molly to talk about. 203 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you could definitely sense that during 204 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: the interview, particularly when she was asked about her motivation 205 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: for going on Love by Island and she has previously 206 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: touched or in a YouTube video before and fans seem 207 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: to get upset when she was quite honest about why 208 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: she won on the show. Now During this podcast interview, 209 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: Molly said, put it this way, I didn't go on 210 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: the show to find love. No one does. People go 211 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: on it for the experience. People go on it to 212 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: have a laugh. I think because I went on there 213 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: with probably an incorrect mindset. That's why I did come 214 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: out with a boyfriend. Let's be honest, though, to any 215 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: of the people that go on the show, do it 216 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: for love? I mean, do any of us actually think 217 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: that anymore? Because we all know what a big business 218 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: Love Island is and what a brilliant platform is for 219 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: people to elevate their own personal brand and get businesses 220 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: out of it and become big influencers. And I don't 221 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: think that's a secret anymore. That's the thing. Molly was 222 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: heavily criticized when she was on Love Island because people 223 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: did assume she only went on there to grow her 224 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: influencer career, and that is exactly what has happened. But 225 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: as you say, Kay, I don't think there's anything wrong 226 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: with that. As you say, the show is a platform 227 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: for young people to build a life for themselves that 228 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: they otherwise wouldn't be able to do, and everyone that's 229 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: on there is doing the same thing, even if they 230 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: weren't an influencer to begin with. Now, on the topic 231 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: of Molly being an influencer, I did find it really 232 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: fascinating hearing her talk about her influencer day's. 233 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: Pre Love Island, because I remember when she first appeared 234 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: on the show. Her job caption was of course social 235 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: media influencer, but it was hard to tell how successful 236 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: she actually was in the space before finding love on 237 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: the show because their followings rise so quickly. 238 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I always wondered the same thing, and Molly did 239 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: confirm in this interview that she had around one hundred 240 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: and seventy thousand followers before appearing on the show. She 241 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: also said that when she was headhunted for Love Ireland, 242 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: there was a part of her that thought she could 243 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: actually be successful without the help of the show because 244 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: her following was growing so rapidly and so organically at 245 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, I found it really interesting that she 246 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: stood by the fact that she thinks she would have 247 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: hit one million followers by now without the show because 248 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: she did have such a good work ethic around Instagram. 249 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Do you think that Molly has become so successful and 250 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: I suppose the most successful person thus far off Love 251 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: Island because she had a bit of a jump on 252 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: the others in terms of already being an influencer before 253 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: and kind of knew what it took to be successful 254 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: in that space. I definitely think it has helped because 255 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: being in that world, she would have understood how quickly 256 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: she needed to move from the time she got out 257 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: of the villa to you know, start pumping out content 258 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: and being consistent and the brands that she should be 259 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: aligning with, what sort of talent managers she should be 260 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: working with. And I think because not everyone is great 261 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: on camera, Like I've watched lots of YouTube videos from 262 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: some of the new Love Island contestants, like Chloe, who's 263 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: just got out of the villa a couple of months ago, 264 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: and she is terrible on camera. Like some people just 265 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: don't know how to vlog, but even some people don't 266 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: know how to take good photos. Ru Like, I feel 267 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: like there's a real art in that. I did find. 268 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: Another really interesting part of the interview was when Molly 269 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: spoke about her relationship with Cosmetic Feler, Because while it's 270 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: not a new topic for her on her channel, as 271 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: she did openly speak about getting her fella in her 272 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: lips and face dissolved a while back. 273 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: However, she gave more of an insight into how the 274 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: influencer industry had affected her to get filla at just 275 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: seventeen years of age, which she pointed out was actually 276 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: illegal at the time. Now, Molly said she felt like 277 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: if she wanted to be a successful influencer and have 278 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: lots of followers, she needed to get filler. And she 279 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: said that there were two turning points when it came 280 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: to dissolving her filler. So, she said, the first was 281 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: when her sister called her when she was at a 282 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: public appearance. Now, her sister had seen in a photo 283 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: of Molly pop up on Twitter and realized that her 284 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: fella was just looking out of control, so she called 285 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: her and said that we really need to talk about 286 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: it now. The second was when a screenshot from one 287 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: of Molly's videos went viral on Twitter, and Molly explained 288 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: that she had just gone to get a lot of 289 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: feeler in her face and she filmed the video before 290 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: letting it settle down, and at the time she was 291 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: getting called quagmire from family Guy and being compared to 292 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: an Xbox controller, and she just said, now when she 293 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: looks back at photos of herself, she's just terrified because 294 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: she sees a completely different person than she is now. 295 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, she did one of those flashbacks from a year 296 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: ago to her standing at the same holiday spot she 297 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: was visiting, and she did look like a completely different person. 298 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's why for so long I've always 299 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: felt like Molly May is a lot older. She's only 300 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: twenty two years old, but the villa was making her 301 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: look far older than her years, and it was doing 302 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: the complete opposite of what she really wanted it to do. Yeah. 303 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: I found it so sad that she felt pressured to 304 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: get filler at such a young age. And it really 305 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: says a lot about the influencer industry and how it 306 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: affects young women. And I suppose even that transition from 307 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: having filler to then going back to what you originally 308 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: looked like, because it really surprised me when Molly was 309 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: talking about her experience of being on the cover for 310 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: Cosmopolitan magazine, because she said landing the cover of Cosmopolitan 311 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: had been such a big dream of hers. 312 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: However, she actually ended. 313 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: Up despising the photos and crying for days because it 314 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: was the first time she'd been photographed without her filler 315 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: in her face, and she just said that she didn't 316 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: like what she looked like. And it was only once 317 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: she had positive feedback about the photo that she started 318 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: feeling better about it. And she explained that she's not 319 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: usually like that, but she was just feeling so vulnerable 320 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: without the feller because people hadn't seen her like that before. 321 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: So the good news is though, it actually ended up 322 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: being a positive for her, and Molly explains why in 323 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: the interview which i'll throw to now. 324 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: I looked really different. I did, and I think people 325 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: noticed it, but people really admired it because it was different, 326 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: it was new, no one had really done that yet. 327 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to say that I started to trend, 328 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: but I do feel like I did to start a 329 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: bit of a trend with the sort of dissolving And 330 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: again I'm proud of that, because yeah, I might have 331 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: been a bit uneasy about it at first, but now 332 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: loads of people are doing it and I love it. It's 333 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: like an amazing movement. 334 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: Although more saying that she hasn't started a trend, I 335 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: really feel like she did start a bit of a 336 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: trend in the UK, and also Australia with people reversing 337 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: cosmetic procedures that they'd had done. I would like to 338 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: say though, it is definitely up to the individual whether 339 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: they want to get cosmetic procedures or not. I don't 340 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: want people to feel like we're shitting on anyone who 341 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: gets lipfiler done. 342 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: I just think that, Oh, and that's exactly what Molly said. 343 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: She said, you know, she's got followers that were like, 344 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: oh no, does that mean we have to dissolve our 345 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: lips now that Molly has And she said it's up 346 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: to you, Like, if you like it, that's cool, But 347 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: for her, she didn't feel like herself anymore, and she 348 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: also wanted to show people that they didn't need it either, 349 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: because she had felt so pressured at seventeen seeing everyone 350 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: on Instagram with lipphild is the thing. I think it 351 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: was such a brave decision to do it, and it 352 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: would have been really difficult to put yourself out there 353 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: because she did open herself up to a lot of 354 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: criticism from trolls. Now, on the topic of the darker 355 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: side of social media, Molly did open up about her 356 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: house being Burgood, which we did talk a lot about 357 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: last month. Now, for those who don't remember, she had 358 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: about eight hundred thousand pounds worth of possessions stolen, including 359 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 2: a lot of jewelry. Now, this is what she had 360 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: to say about her jewelry. 361 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: I don't really wear my jewelry anymore. What I have 362 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: left of it, I'm not wearing it because I just 363 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 3: it made me realize that it just doesn't really matter. 364 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: People are just so cruel and they are jealous that 365 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: these things. It's better off just to I don't know, 366 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 3: I just think it changed things for me. It took 367 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: that superficialness away. It just made me realize, actually, these 368 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: things aren't important. Your health and your happiness and your safety. 369 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 3: Safety is key. I'm spending a fortune now on security, 370 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: but really there's no price on feeling safe at all. 371 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 3: Because I'd rather spend money on security than spend it 372 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: on a handbag. Because what makes you feel better now 373 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: the security, of course, because I can go down the 374 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: street and know I'm safe. 375 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: I feel like it's really easy to be jealous of 376 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: people on Instagram that have beautiful, designer jewelry. 377 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: However, hearing Molly May about the fact that all she 378 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: wants to do is feel safe, really put this whole 379 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: situation into perspective, because she is a twenty two year 380 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: old girl that's been thrust into the spotlight. And yeah, 381 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: she does have a lot of nice things, but does 382 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: that mean she can't feel safe in her own home 383 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: and has to feel guilty that she almost I mean, 384 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: I remember she spoke about how she felt like she'd 385 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: almost brought this upon herself, and I do think it's 386 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: the really the sad side of fame that a lot 387 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: of people don't talk about now. Even though Molly May 388 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: is an influencer, she really is an A list celebrity 389 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: in the UK because she has been on one of 390 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: the UK's largest reality TV shows that gets exported all 391 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: over the world. She's a big deal in the UK 392 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: and she has paparazzi following her on a daily basis. 393 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: She also has people trying to track her down, fans 394 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: appear at her house. It would feel really scared, It 395 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: would feel really isolating, and then to top it off, 396 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: to have your privacy invaded in the way she had, 397 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: and to have your whole house robbed, it would be 398 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: scared at like going back to your apartment. And also 399 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: the fact that Tommy, her partner, who is a boxer, 400 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: is constantly away in the US. She is there on 401 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: her own. It does put into perspective the price that 402 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: she has to pay just to feel safe in her 403 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: own home. 404 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's more the cost of putting herself online, because 405 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, would I want to have her level 406 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: of fame and wealth but then be scared wherever I 407 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: go and have to take security, Like I think I'd 408 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 2: prefer to live a normal life. She was saying how 409 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: she can't even like she wanted to go down to 410 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: one of the Christmas markets. 411 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: And it would be a whole ordeal for her. 412 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: She'd have to get the twenty four or seven security 413 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: to come with them, because people just constantly are coming 414 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: up for photos. And while she said she enjoys that 415 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: and likes it and she has never rejected a photo 416 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: of anyone, she said it you know, it does take 417 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: up a lot of time and it can get very overwhelming. 418 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: Now. She did also touch on during this interview her 419 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: new role as plt's creative director, and she spoke about 420 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: the fact that she got a lot of backlash after 421 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: her role was announced. Now, she said that it's not 422 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: so much that she goes in and talks numbers with 423 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: the team at PLT, but she is there to give 424 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: her perspective on how things should be done, almost from 425 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: a consumer perspective, and to give the voice of consumer. 426 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: So she says that she will go into this studio 427 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: and say, I think this needs to be changed. She'll 428 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: give a new, fresh set of eyes. What did you 429 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: make of the way she described her new role look? 430 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: To be honest, this was one part of the interview 431 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: that I was a bit dubious about because the interviewer, 432 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: Steven Bartlett, flat out was like, so what is your role? 433 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: And she kind of spoke around it a little bit. 434 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: So I am on the fence a bit about it. 435 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to tear this honor away from her. 436 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: And it was interesting because I think the interviewer put 437 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: this decision into a bit of a perspective because he said, 438 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: the owner of PLT loves hiring people that don't necessarily 439 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: have the qualifications because as Molly mentioned, he loves having 440 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: fresh sets of. 441 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: Eyes in there. 442 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 2: And it definitely seems like she does take her role 443 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 2: very seriously, like she went on about how much she 444 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: really does love the brand, and I actually believed her 445 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: because she explained that when she got out of Love Island, 446 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: she had so many offers coming her way from fashion companies, 447 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: and she said that basically all these people came and 448 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: met with her, but PLT actually didn't. They phoned her 449 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: and their offer was I think, she said, three times 450 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: less than some of the other people's, but she still 451 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: went with them because she said they were one of 452 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: the first brands she worked with when she was getting started, 453 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: and she just believes in what they do and in 454 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: the brand. So I mean, either she's very good at 455 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: spinning this belief in the brands that she aligns with, 456 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: or she genuinely means it. 457 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: It just still doesn't sit well with me that she 458 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: is the face of this huge fast fashion brand that 459 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: is bad for the environment, and that she believes so 460 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: much in this brand. 461 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: Well, it seems like she was trying to push a 462 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: bit of good pr for plt's way, because she did 463 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: mention how she was about to launch a new range 464 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: with PLT and on that night, sadly, it was announced 465 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 2: that Caroline Flack had passed away and they decided to 466 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: cancel the event, and then all the profit from her 467 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: range went to a mental health charity called mind. So 468 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: while obviously the brand isn't great for the environment, it 469 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: does seem like it aligns with some of her own 470 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: personal values regarding mental health and charity work, and it 471 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: seems like she's got a bit of say in that 472 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: regard of what they do. 473 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: Now, I did get really annoyed because this was such 474 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: an interesting interview with so many different elements, But The 475 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: Sun decided to write an article that completely missed the mark. 476 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they decided to run with the headline loner, I've 477 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 2: only got five mates and would rather make money than 478 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: waste my time on making friends as Molly may Haig. 479 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: Now. 480 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: This was followed by a lead that read, Molly may 481 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: Haig might be a millionaire, but there's one thing She's 482 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: not rich in friends. Now. This headline is in relation 483 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: to the answer Molly gave when the interviewer asked her 484 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: if she had many friends, and this is what she said. 485 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: Have you got a lot of friends? No? I don't. 486 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: That's just that's a blank question. 487 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, not. 488 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: Straight up, No, No, I don't. My circle is miniscule. 489 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: I have literally about five people in my circle, and 490 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: that includes friends, I have acquaintances, and I have people 491 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: in my life that I say in my friends, but no, 492 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 3: my circle is absolutely tiny and I like it that way. 493 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have it any other way. I work, I 494 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: spend time with my boyfriend, and I go to bed. 495 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: That is literally my life. And I'm not bothered about 496 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 3: social life. It's never been something that I've been interested in. 497 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've like, I don't know if 498 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 3: you know, but I don't really drink. I don't party, 499 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: I don't go out. But that is just because I 500 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 3: actually don't enjoy it. It's not for me. I'd rather 501 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: just focus on making money, being successful and being happy. 502 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: That's friends. They come and go, and I just I 503 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: find it a bit of a waste of time. 504 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: It really pierced me off that this was the focus 505 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: of The Sun's article, because I feel like there was 506 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: so much more to take from the interview. This is 507 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: a young woman who is very inspirational and intelligent and 508 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: has managed to build such an amazing career for herself 509 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: at such a young age, and I feel like it's 510 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: a little bit sexist, and they were trying to make 511 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: her sound like a bit of a mean girl, acting 512 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: like she's too good for a friends. I mean personally, 513 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: I feel like when you're in your twenties, it's pretty 514 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: common to lose friends along the way as your lives changed, 515 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 2: particularly if you and you're in very different places now 516 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: for us mere mortals, that might be if you decide 517 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: to go to UNI and someone else decides to get 518 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 2: a full time job. 519 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: But when you're cast. 520 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: Into completely a different life. You're very famous, you've got 521 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: a lot of money. Sadly, you're not going to be 522 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: on the same page as some of your friends that 523 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: you went to high school with. And let's be honest, 524 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: there would be a lot of jealousy there, and I 525 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: do think that people could get their backs up about it. 526 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean I'd be jealous. Yeah, there'd be so many 527 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: of these friends coming out of the woodwork as soon 528 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: as she'd come off Love Island, trying to befriend her 529 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: and hang out with her. I think the other element, too, 530 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 1: is that she left Love Island with her boyfriend Tommy, 531 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: so the fact that she's in this new relationship they've 532 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: moved in together. When heaps of us get into relationships, 533 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: sometimes we don't have as much time for our friends, sadly, 534 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: and that is sort of a way of life. And 535 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: growing up. 536 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like it was a very normal 537 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: thing and to try and push on I'm alone or whatever. 538 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: It's like. It was clearly a joke. She was just 539 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: saying that sadly, her life is very busy. 540 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: I mean, she said that her relationship with Tommy is 541 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: basically long distance because they're just so busy all the time. 542 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: And you would be, and you'd be wanting to make 543 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: the most out of this little pocket of time that 544 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: you have, because let's be honest, if you're not putting 545 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: a lot of effort in, you're not going to have 546 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: the longevity of success. 547 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: And she has. 548 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: Managed to come out of Love Island two years ago 549 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: and continue just to get bigger and bigger, and that 550 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: takes hard work. 551 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: I can't hide like how like much of unto we 552 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: call me give me Fanny flies. 553 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: I'm good a Fannie, But if I did, you'd give 554 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: me Fanny for those. 555 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: Two now Love Island winnert mille Court's career has gone 556 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: full circle. Before entering the villa, she was a bias 557 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: administrator for Asos and now she's launched a new collection 558 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: with the online fashion brand that is so popular it 559 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: caused the website to crash on this first day. Now, 560 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: I think that this is just such a great PR 561 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: story for ASOS and also Milly. What do you think, Kate? Well, 562 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: I just want to take the moment to gloat again 563 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: that Amy and I were right about this ASOS collaboration 564 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: and it makes so much sense and I think it's 565 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: really great that this has actually happened. I mean, can 566 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: you imagine working I mean, I'm not saying I'm not 567 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: trying to put down a bias assistant, but it's not, 568 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, the number one job at ASOS. Going from 569 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: there to going to having your own range, Like, how incredible? 570 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: What a moment for Millie. Yeah, so I am so 571 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: happy for her because I love the fact that I'm 572 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: not that a bias administrator is a shit kicker, but 573 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: I do love the fact that she had a bit 574 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: of a shitkicker job there. And now she's launched this 575 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: new collection and it's pretty interesting because people are saying 576 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: it's a collection, but it is more of a style edit. 577 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: Now I am not a fashionist, but a style edit 578 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: is because she has created some pieces, but also it's 579 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: including pieces of things that she would like to wear 580 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: and her top picks of things like makeup and shoes. Okay, 581 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: so is that stuff that goes with her new items? Yes, 582 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: pretty much. That's a better way of explaining it. And 583 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: the funniest piece of the collection has to be a 584 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: fluffy cowprint coat, which she named the Millie Moo, after 585 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: the nickname that her boyfriend Liam gave her in the villa. 586 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: That is fantastic. What a clever person whoever came up 587 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: with that? Maybe Millie Now. When launching the collection on Instagram, 588 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: Milli wrote to her followers, it feels so surreal to 589 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: be typing this out right now, from working at Asos 590 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: doing my nine to five to now telling you guys 591 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: to go and shop my edit. This day will go 592 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: down in history now. It is predicted that off the 593 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: back of this collaboration and also another re collaboration that 594 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: she did with an eyelash company, that Milly has become 595 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: an instant millionaire. 596 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: Well, she joins a lot of other instant millionaires off 597 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: Love Island. It will be interesting to see if she 598 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: will have the longevity like Molly May and I do 599 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: think a part of that maybe down to how successful 600 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: her relationship is with Liam. Definitely, Well, they have just 601 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: moved into a very flash apartment with one another in Essex. 602 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: So Liam has moved from Wales to be with her 603 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: in Essex. So their relationship does seem to be going 604 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: very strong. I do follow both of them on Instagram 605 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: and I think that they do come across a lot 606 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: more genuine and authentic than some of the other couples do. 607 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: Milli did just celebrate her twenty fifth birthday party and 608 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: you know, they were just a home the night before, 609 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: doing normal couple things and seem very much in love. 610 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: I saw that Kaz and Tyler have broken up, and 611 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: again I was not surprised at all. I really felt 612 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: like he was only in it for the show and 613 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: the fame, and that he didn't really give a shit 614 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: about poor Kaz. This is turning into a bit of 615 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: a Love Island UK recap because we also have to 616 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: share the exciting news that two Islanders have got engaged 617 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: over the week now. 618 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: And they are not from the same series. Though not 619 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: from the same series, they were a series apart. So 620 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: those might remember Luke Abbott who looked very much like 621 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: Justin Bieber, and a contestant called Lucy Donlan. Now she 622 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: was the blonde, very surfy looking girl, and she dated 623 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: the sandwich guy Joel or something, didn't she She said 624 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: she was looking for a surfy boyfriend, and I think 625 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: she had the hots for Tommy Fury too, but it 626 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: wasn't reciprocated obviously. Now, it surprised a lot that he 627 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: actually proposed to her during a holiday to Finland, so 628 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: it was the complete opposite environment of a hot Spanish villa. 629 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,959 Speaker 1: They were in a freezing cold, almost eagloo looking house. 630 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: I was still getting my head around the fact that 631 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: they were actually a couple, let alone engaged, because it's 632 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: so weird to see two people from two different series 633 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: of Love Island. But it is great that they found love. 634 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: I feel like the show's pretty successful in putting people together, 635 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: even if it's not on the same series. 636 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: This is what I always tell my boyfriend. There are 637 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: a lot of success stories out of this show. 638 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: Maybe they should take a leaf out of the Bachelor's 639 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: book and do a bit of a mash up with 640 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: old cast members, sort of like Bachelor and Paradise. I 641 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: would love to see that with Love Island contestants. 642 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: Who was that just a friend? 643 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: You've made a new friend? 644 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: Oh, a friend? Since one of you had other friends. 645 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: Oh friend, Just before we get into the next topic, 646 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: we did want to issue a trigger warning because we 647 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: do discuss topics of abortion. 648 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day revealed in a YouTube video that she thought 649 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: she was going into early labor last week after she 650 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: experienced intense Bracks and Hicks contractions. Now Kate. For those 651 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: who aren't across it, can you give us some background 652 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: about this pregnancy journey? Yeah so. 653 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: Sarah is currently twenty seven weeks pregnant with her second child, 654 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: and this pregnancy has been closely followed by many across 655 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: social media as Sadly, Sarah and husband have revealed that 656 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: their baby will likely be born with an undisclosed health condition, 657 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: and they found out the news after Sarah went for 658 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: an NIPT test, which screens for genetic conditions. Initially, they 659 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: were told by their doctors to terminate the pregnancy, but 660 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: following calls with pediatricians, counselors, and specialist practitioners, the couple 661 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: felt empowered to continue with the pregnancy. Now sob, can 662 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: you get us up to date with what's been happening 663 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: more recently? 664 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah So. In a new vlog, Sarah said that she 665 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: recently had met with her midwife, who said that she 666 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: was actually tracking two weeks ahead in terms of her size, 667 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: and I feel like this baby bump is the most 668 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: photographed baby bump in history. And I've even noticed that 669 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: her stomach is a lot bigger than in her previous 670 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: pregnancy with Fox. 671 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like you've only noticed it because she 672 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: mentions it so often and she seems very fixated on it. 673 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: And I personally thought this was because she has in 674 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: the past had an unhealthy relationship with food and seems 675 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: to be quite fixated on exercising and what she looks like. However, 676 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: it does seem like she actually is onto something in 677 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: this case. 678 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, as I said, the midwife did confirm that 679 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: she is tracking two weeks ahead in terms of size, 680 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: and she said that this isn't uncommon for the second pregnancy. Now. 681 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: Sarah then went on to explain that she has been 682 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: a bit mia across her social media platforms because she did, 683 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: in fact have to spend a night in hospital. Now. 684 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: Sarah said that during her pregnancy with Fox and this pregnancy, 685 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: she has been experiencing some Bras and Hicks contractions now 686 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: for those who haven't heard of them before, because I 687 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: didn't know too much about them. They are contractions in 688 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: the uterus that happened to kind of prepare for birth. 689 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: So it is something that pregnant women do experience and 690 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: they kind of mimic the pain of contractions. Well, it's 691 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: kind of preparing the uterus to have those sort of contractions, 692 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: I believe. So the morning before Sarah went into hospital, 693 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: she said that she woke up feeling quite different. So 694 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: her stomach had dropped quite considerably, and she said that 695 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: the baby felt a lot lower. Now this seemed a 696 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: bit strange to me because despite feeling this way, she 697 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: said that she continued and she went out to do 698 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: a workout and she was doing some very narrow squats 699 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: and she felt as though the baby's head was between 700 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: her legs. Now, this would have been time for me 701 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: to sit back down, go to the hospital, like, what 702 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: the fuck is that? Working out? Stop working out? Yeah, Now, 703 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: this is what she said about the incident. 704 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: I woke up that morning and I looked lower, and 705 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: I felt lower. 706 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: I was going to do narrow squats in my workout, 707 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: and I felt. 708 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: Like there was something in between my legs, like something 709 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: in my badge, and it honestly felt like his head. 710 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on? 711 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: My belly was even lower than today. I showed Kurt. 712 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 3: He was like, are you okay? 713 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: I was surprised Sarah was giving so much detail about 714 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: what happened because I feel like there are a lot 715 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: of people. I mean, I said, as a joke, she 716 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: should have stopped exercising, but there are a lot of 717 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: people that like to shame mums and pregnant women, So 718 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: I feel like she could have kept a lot of 719 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: this private. 720 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt a bit uncomfortable watching this, to be 721 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: honest as well, because she continued by saying that she 722 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: wasn't alarmed by what had happened, but told herself to 723 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: keep an eye on her body during the day, so 724 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: she seemed to go about her day as usual. She 725 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: had a meeting with a coworker, and then she had 726 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: a late night meeting till about ten thirty, and she 727 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: said during this meeting the contractions were getting so strong 728 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: and she was in so much discomfort that when she 729 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: walked back to her car at the end of the 730 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: meeting that she had to hold her belly up because 731 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: she felt like there was so much pressure on her cervix. 732 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: Now She then went and lay in bed, and apparently 733 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: these bracs and hicks got so much more intense and 734 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: got so much stronger that they started to feel like 735 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: period cramps, and she started to get a lot of 736 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: pressure in her lower back and she thought, oh my god, 737 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: am I actually about to have a baby. Because these 738 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: contractions were three minutes apart, so it really was mimicking labor. 739 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: So this stage Sarah to call her sister, who is 740 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 2: a midwife, and they ended up going to the hospital, 741 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 2: and Sarah said she felt really guilty about getting her 742 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: midwife out of bed and also waking up Fox. And 743 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: I did feel for her, because you know, when you're 744 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: you've got a pain or something. I mean, I'm not 745 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: even pregnant. I'm just a hypochondriac, but I have a pain, 746 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 2: and I'm. 747 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: Like, oh, is that serious? 748 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 2: Should I be making a big deal about this? And 749 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: you always downplay things that are going on, so I 750 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: could very much relate to this. 751 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: So at the. 752 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 2: Hospital, the doctors monitored the contractions and heartbeat for an hour. 753 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: They also checked her cervix and did a swab that 754 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: came back with a protein that indicated that she wasn't 755 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: going into early labor and that was okay to go 756 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 2: home now. 757 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: She did say that the doctor said she had a 758 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: very raw and sensitive cervix and she wanted to wait 759 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: to get a perhaps me after her pregnancy to see 760 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: what this was about. And she is just so open 761 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: and gives you every single medical detail that is going on. 762 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: And she did preface in this flog that she hasn't 763 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: been very open of course about what is happening medically 764 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: with her unborn child, but she does feel comfortable to 765 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: take people along for the journey of what's happening to 766 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: her own body. 767 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's all we've got time for today. 768 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us for another episode 769 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 2: of Outspoken. 770 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed it, could you please make sure 771 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: you are subscribed on either Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and 772 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: you are following us on our Instagram which is Outspoken Underscore, 773 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: the Underscored Podcast