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Speaker 1: Jam mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Nothing terrifies me more than being cold, wet, terrible toilet facilities,

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Speaker 2: holding a sandbag over my head. I can't even hold

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Speaker 2: a handbag over my head, sleep deprivation, lack of lumber support,

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Speaker 2: no cheese plates.

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Speaker 3: I just couldn't deal.

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Speaker 2: But celebrities, season after season is signing up to be

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Speaker 2: put through their paces. The latest ad shows them being

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Speaker 2: set on fire. It kicks off again Monday night on

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Speaker 2: Channel seven at Middleton.

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Speaker 1: Hello, just having me guys, thank you.

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Speaker 3: You just have to keep up being the anti? Do

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Speaker 3: you where do you stop?

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Speaker 1: Capitation? The actual process is six months long, so we

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Speaker 1: can we can go all day long with it. You know,

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Speaker 1: different location, different tasks, different personalities. You're going to get

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Speaker 1: a different show. And that's that's what happens. Look at

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Speaker 1: the cast here, it's phenomenal. You've got so many different characters,

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Speaker 1: You've got so many big personalities. We've got new ds

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Speaker 1: on the show, We've got new tasks, and we just

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Speaker 1: have to up the anti because.

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Speaker 4: We've lost DS Billy, Yes, we've lost DS Billy and

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Speaker 4: DS Foxy Ye, who I enjoy very much, so who

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Speaker 4: than you do.

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Speaker 1: So we've got a guy called Dean Stott, who you

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Speaker 1: serve with myself. We've done a couple of tours and

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Speaker 1: we've got a seal yeah, Navy Seal Seal Team six, Clint,

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Speaker 1: and he just brings a different dynamic to the team,

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Speaker 1: different humor, different approach, and you're going to see a

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Speaker 1: different show.

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Speaker 3: Would you ever have someone soft like a poet laureate?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what? No?

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Speaker 3: Setting people on for fire? Wow?

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Speaker 5: Well do you know what?

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Speaker 1: That was? Actually health and safety? And we can do

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Speaker 1: this task if you want. I'm like, we're in set

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Speaker 1: people on fire. Let's do it. And do you know

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Speaker 1: what it is? It's a great starter because it makes

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Speaker 1: them realize that they've got their life in their own hands.

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Speaker 1: It's like, right, we're going to set you on fire.

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Speaker 1: You have to extinguish yourself. You have to run into

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Speaker 1: this lake, put yourself out, and keep yourself alive. Now

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Speaker 1: what better task to start with?

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Speaker 5: Have you ever set yourself on fire?

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Speaker 1: No? I haven't, but I've been set on fire?

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Speaker 5: Yeah or not?

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Speaker 4: And because it is the and I have When I

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Speaker 4: used to work for a I used to work grinding

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Speaker 4: metal and stuff, and my overalls caught on fire and

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Speaker 4: I remember that I didn't even realize it until it

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Speaker 4: And then I got crash tackled by this massive unit,

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Speaker 4: the boss, and he's rolling me out.

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Speaker 5: It was about eighteen. I had no idea. Yeah, but

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Speaker 5: it just the you don't even feel the heat and

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Speaker 1: Do you know what it is? It's one of those

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Speaker 1: you have to survive. You have to keep yourself alive.

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Speaker 1: You know, on the battlefield, it's exactly the same. You

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Speaker 1: yourself out of that situation to remain operable and to

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Speaker 2: So I've spoken to some of the production people who

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Speaker 2: work on the show, and hats off to you because

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Speaker 3: You don't stop and start. It's the real deal for

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Speaker 3: the day.

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Speaker 1: On the course. They won the show behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: and you get SS Australia. It is a course for us.

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Speaker 1: It's not a show for us. It's real. We've been there,

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Speaker 1: we've done it. You know. We don't jump into character.

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Speaker 1: People say to me, and you jump into your chief

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Speaker 1: You know. I take back myself back to the battlefield.

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Speaker 1: I take myself back to combat, take myself back to selection,

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Speaker 1: the selection process that we've done. And it's real for us.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're invested emotionally, psychologically and physically just as

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Speaker 5: How hard is it to switch off?

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Speaker 4: So when you're out on the battlefield and I know

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Speaker 4: you're lifted some time ago, but you had trouble when

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Speaker 4: you readjusting to Seville in life and I'm just thinking

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Speaker 4: about Ben Robert Smith at the moment. Here's a guy

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Speaker 4: who was our most decorated soldier and he's in a

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Speaker 1: Unless you've been on the battlefield and you been put

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Speaker 1: to to execute, you know, in that given time. So

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Speaker 1: for the politician to sit back and and try and

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Speaker 1: rip these poor guys apart, especially, it's for me it's unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: It's like, listen, you couldn't possibly understand. Don't try to

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Speaker 1: much as you want, but that is, you can't get

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Speaker 1: through someone's mind during that specific moment. So I'm very

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Speaker 5: Flat with it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what happens on the on the battlefield stays

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Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, it's a decision and a mindset that

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Speaker 1: get it right, sometimes you get it wrong. It's like,

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Speaker 1: but you must, you must just move forward. And to

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Speaker 2: Does anyone ever find on the TV show do they

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Speaker 2: than they thought it would be? Like Sam Burger's does

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Speaker 2: he does he come through and go? It was what

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Speaker 2: I expected it to be. It's like anyone who's not challenged.

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Speaker 1: No, everyone says the opposite. It was way harder. We

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Speaker 1: but the intensity of two weeks of being under my

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Speaker 1: No production, they can't talk to the cameraman, they can't

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Speaker 1: talk to the sound guys. It's like literally head down

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Speaker 1: the production, no eye contact. It's like you're in my

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Speaker 1: world now. You know you're dehere to to to our rules.

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Speaker 1: If not, get the hell out of.

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Speaker 4: It, And do you get tired of yelling at people.

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Speaker 4: Do you ever get to a point and saying, oh, man,

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Speaker 4: I just want.

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Speaker 1: To soothe that. I just do you know what, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a yelly type of guy, I believe it

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Speaker 1: or not. But I get in the moment as well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm reliving the moment with them. So and

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Speaker 1: it's the way that I learned in the military. You know,

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Speaker 1: I learned by believe it or not, being shouted at

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Speaker 1: from a young age of seventeen, being being manhandled, being

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Speaker 1: you know, that's the way I learned quickly. So and

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Speaker 1: the dsay bring different approaches they learn, you know, it

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Speaker 1: more of a political or a conversational approach. But with me,

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Speaker 1: it really worked when I was really pushed and someone

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Speaker 1: with me, it really pushed me past my limits. So

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Speaker 3: Because Gordon Ramsey.

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Speaker 5: Yes, because I enjoy watching you do it.

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Speaker 4: Because there's a bit where you're like you're really on

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Speaker 4: you're really on someone, but then and then there's this

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Speaker 4: you have empathy with them, and then you have you know,

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Speaker 4: at the end of it, when they leave, and there's

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Speaker 4: been some really emotional moments where you've said goodbye to

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Speaker 4: people on the show and you think, well, you know,

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Speaker 4: you've got this almost Stockholm syndrome going with your with

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Speaker 4: your constituents.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, it's in the moment. You see

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Speaker 1: the shouting in the moment. It's never scripted. It's like,

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Speaker 1: it's in that moment. I want to get through to you.

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Speaker 1: I want to try and get into your head how

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Speaker 1: serious this is and how important it is. And then

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Speaker 1: after that it's yes, it is mentoring in a way.

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Speaker 1: It's like listen, you know, now, this is how you

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Speaker 1: break it down, This is how you digest it, this

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Speaker 1: is how you process it in order to move forward.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, empathy is a part of humanity. You know.

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Speaker 1: You look at someone, you go, right, I've pushed them

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Speaker 1: to a certain extent. Now they need to learn there's

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Speaker 1: no point in just pushing them, pushing them and breaking

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Speaker 1: them because that's pointless. So you push them and push

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Speaker 1: them and you go put them back. You go right,

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Speaker 1: take this down. Now, what have you learned from this?

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Speaker 1: And hopefully they move forward from it.

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Speaker 5: That's why I've signed Amanda up for next season.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Amanda, I would like to lumber supporter.

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Speaker 3: I would like a cheese plated about every afternoon, and.

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Speaker 5: I would cheese soldier.

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Speaker 3: I'd like a poet laureate to shout in my face.

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Speaker 4: And it's always toilet. It's always a treat to talk

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Speaker 4: to you. We love catching up with you every time.

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Speaker 4: Sa is Australia Bringings Monday on seven. Aunt Middleton, thank

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Speaker 4: you for joining.

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Speaker 1: Us up listen. Thanks guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Jonesy and Amanda's