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Speaker 1: a little bit of a treat for you. This is

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Speaker 1: the full chat that we had with Mark earlier today.

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Speaker 1: Mark was diagnosed with limes disease when he was twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Was written by Tick Tragically. It was fully functioning, had

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Speaker 1: all modic motor control of everything. In three years, was

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Speaker 1: reduced to being a quadriplegic. He can't move at all

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Speaker 1: apart from his head. And yeah, he's had a track

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Speaker 1: yost to me, so he can't really talk either.

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Speaker 2: Didn't stop him from wanting to do a podcast, though,

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Speaker 2: Will So that was.

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Speaker 1: That was his ambition, that was his dream, and that

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Speaker 1: was part of a thousand good deeds for us. So

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Speaker 1: this is one of our favorite good deeds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's exactly what you're about to hear now

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Speaker 2: that the podcast with Marky's first podcast he's ever done.

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Speaker 2: He's written a whole bunch of questions for us, so

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Speaker 2: you'll enjoy that. We do have to mention though there's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of colorful language, mainly from Mark, you know,

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Speaker 2: absolute putty mat It was a very raw chat. There's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of swearing in there. So if you

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Speaker 2: do have sensitive ears, then maybe it's not for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: or yeah, just brace yourself with some naughty words.

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Speaker 1: Well, don't you making it sound like you're walking into

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Speaker 3: It's not that bad.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of air bombs in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we don't needn't start naming the how many

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Speaker 3: swear words out? This is just like a look and

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Speaker 3: I don't do that. I don't do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm being faced. She's been a bit frivolous here in

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Speaker 2: this introduction, which is a bit ridiculous because people just

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Speaker 2: want to hear the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they do.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I want to say before we get

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Speaker 1: into the podcast, though, is if you hear another voice,

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Speaker 1: that's his care a cow. You're talking and she's just

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Speaker 1: interpreting some of the stuff. She was a big swear too. Actually,

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Speaker 1: oh god, I swore like a troup. We actually had

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Speaker 1: to take out some of that. That was just too much. Anyway, enjoy.

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Speaker 3: So we've got Mark in the studio. Hello, Hello, Mark,

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Speaker 3: pleasure to have you here.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Mark, you're a quadriplegic and you've had a track as

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Speaker 1: to me, which means that you're struggling to talk. But

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Speaker 1: our good deed to you today is that we want

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Speaker 1: to help you out mate, because apparently your idea here

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Speaker 1: is to start a silent video podcast, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to put all the links and stuff up online the

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Speaker 1: Woody on Instagram and Facebook so that people can check

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Speaker 1: out the full interview there. But in the meantime, what

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Speaker 1: you've done for the podcast is you've written us it

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Speaker 1: looks like six or seven questions.

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Speaker 3: And then the.

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Speaker 1: Way the podcast is going to wait is that Woods

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Speaker 1: and I are going to answer the questions.

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Speaker 3: And that's going to work out pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful. It's worth mentioned as well, Mark. So the

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Speaker 2: way you're able to type, because you are able to type,

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Speaker 2: you use something called smart nav which enables you to

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Speaker 2: move the mouse virus sensor on your head amazing, So

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Speaker 2: mouse and that's how you're able to type. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: then that's how you're able to That's how you've able

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Speaker 2: to type us these seven questions, which is going to

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Speaker 2: be the podcast today us answering the questions that you've

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Speaker 2: put together. It's Will Woody and Mark. What are you

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Speaker 2: exciting your first podcast? So do we do we crack

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Speaker 2: into the questions?

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Speaker 1: You like the name, Well, if you look around, as

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Speaker 1: we've got you on the screens here as well, we

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Speaker 1: put you on the on the TV screens around the studio,

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Speaker 1: Will Woody and Mark, you can see your you can

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Speaker 3: So pretty good set up.

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Speaker 2: Actually, it's worth mentioning as well. Like, so one of

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Speaker 2: the things on your pod on your on your bucket

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Speaker 2: a half marathon, a full marathon. You've appeared on Neighbors.

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to get a neighbors for years. You've

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Speaker 3: Wow was it like any tongue or just little bit?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So here we go. Let let's back into the

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Speaker 2: questions here. Question one.

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Speaker 1: Before the questions, Mark, Sorry, I know you've got your

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Speaker 1: and you can confirm a little bit. So Seb told

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Speaker 1: us that you were that you had limes disease, which

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Speaker 1: is something which is transferred bacterial infection that you.

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Speaker 3: Get by a bite from a tick. And heavy metal poisoning.

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Speaker 5: Wow, not like Metallica.

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Speaker 1: When you're going to too many, too many death metal concerts.

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Speaker 3: And so how old were you when that happened?

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Speaker 6: Mane?

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Speaker 5: Twenty three, seventeen years ago?

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Speaker 1: Wow, so you went from being like a fully functioning,

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: The trachiosomes, that's what you have removed?

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Speaker 3: That's so scary, Mark, Wow, can't move it all?

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Speaker 1: really looking forward to doing this. That's just a little

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Speaker 2: I actually love this your view on awareness, Mark, I

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Speaker 2: love this. With a lead by example type approach, my

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Speaker 2: aim is to not exclusively is not exclusively directed towards

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Speaker 2: these things. It is much rather about empowering the individuals.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, really well said, all.

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Speaker 3: Right mate, Well let's get into it. So I've got

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Speaker 3: seven questions here.

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Speaker 1: Question number one for us Woods on the Will Woody

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Speaker 2: So then I started doing stand up, and then we

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Speaker 3: It really died in the ass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then luckily we came on at the end

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Speaker 2: I had with Harden. If Hayden's listening to a Hadden, Yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He was cool, really cool. What else have we got here?

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Speaker 2: Question two?

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Speaker 3: Question two? Yeah, you happy to move on to question

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Speaker 1: Apart from my disability, how am I different than you emotionally, desires, aspirations,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. Are you asking that question from our perspective,

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Speaker 1: like how we think whether we think you're different from us.

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Speaker 1: I there's so much that I that I still want

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Speaker 3: I haven't done that.

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Speaker 3: I can see that.

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Speaker 2: I think it does sound that we have similar desires that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mate, I I don't know. I mean. The other

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Speaker 3: Every day, but she told me, this is going to

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: No? Fair enough? Fair enough, totally fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Can't help but just cry with relief because you're just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so great, mate, are great. These are the best

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Speaker 2: We might just take these questions and ask our other

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Speaker 2: question question five here Mark, do you follow your dreams?

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Speaker 2: Can you give examples? Mark? You're currently at university studying

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Speaker 3: What yeah, mate, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Wow? That is that? Yeah? And you don't let anything

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Speaker 2: So can I like? So when you are so you're

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Speaker 5: And then over that clicks so then it can type

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Speaker 5: Oh cool.

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Speaker 3: That's outrageous.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't like it.

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Speaker 5: A few reasons, big reasons.

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Speaker 3: I don't worry.

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Speaker 1: as a person as a person, Yeah, gotcha?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah cool.

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Speaker 2: Well do we follow our dreams?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: I can well speak for myself here. This, this job

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Speaker 2: that Will and I have a radio show, is absolutely

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Speaker 2: my dream job. And I every single morning I wake

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Speaker 2: up and I think about how lucky I am that

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Speaker 2: I get to My job is to you know, come

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Speaker 2: up with ideas to try and make him laugh and

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Speaker 2: have fun every day and so so yeah, that that

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Speaker 2: didn't go without, you know, certain risks that we took

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Speaker 2: in life to make sure that that could happen, that

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Speaker 2: we were following our dreams, because there was probably more

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Speaker 2: a safer route to go in life at some stage.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I definitely don't regret a second of following

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Speaker 2: the dreams to have this job.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: I've always wanted to be a plumber, So.

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Speaker 1: We're in the wrong spot as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes he blocks a toilet for ships and giggles

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Speaker 2: mind the pun.

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Speaker 3: Again, great question mark from my sort of things. I Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'd like to think.

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Speaker 1: So, I'm finding there's a real tension in my life

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Speaker 1: right now between following dreams and also practicality in a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways. And I'm just I'm struggling a lot

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Speaker 1: with that myself at the moment. That's something that I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of grappling with. And that's a ridiculous thing to

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Speaker 1: say to someone that can't move and is currently righting

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Speaker 1: their second book and studying at university. But I was

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Speaker 1: going to eat my words. Yeah, should answer. You're actually

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Speaker 1: flooring me that for somebody who actually can't talk. You're

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Speaker 1: destroying me in this interview. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you're doing it, and no one's

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Speaker 2: ever got will before. He's usually very good question. Are

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Speaker 2: you happy to help someone with a disability to let

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Speaker 2: them go about their business? So are you happy to

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Speaker 2: help someone with a disability to let them go about

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Speaker 2: their business? Or are you scared of saying the wrong thing?

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Speaker 2: There is no right or wrong answer here, So I

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Speaker 2: have I have a direct example of this that happened

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Speaker 2: this morning. I was going for a run and I

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Speaker 2: saw a guy who was a he was a double amputee,

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Speaker 2: so and he was in a wheelchair and he was.

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Speaker 2: There was a pretty steep incline and he was he

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Speaker 2: was getting up the incline, but it looked like he

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Speaker 2: was struggling a bit, and I had the thought path

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Speaker 2: so I was running up. I was like, do I

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Speaker 2: say do you want a hand? Or is that going

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Speaker 2: to be a bit condescending to say to him do

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Speaker 2: you need a hand? And I chose to not say

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Speaker 2: anything and just went past, what are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 5: What would you say? So you don't think that's condescending?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 8: People are just really worried about like saying the wrong

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Speaker 8: thing that you know, it gets caught up, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, people with disabilities are still just people that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I've got a I've actually got a friend Mark,

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Speaker 1: who's they run? You should actually get in touch with

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Speaker 1: the charity in Melbourne called Wheels in Motion. You know

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Speaker 1: them there guys guy went to school with He was

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Speaker 1: like the ducks of the school. I think he's just

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Speaker 1: honestly the smartest person I ever met.

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Speaker 6: It.

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Speaker 3: We had him on the show, same.

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Speaker 1: As Matt Perry, and when he was seventeen, he had

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Speaker 1: an accident playing football. He broke his neck and he

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Speaker 1: is quadriplegic.

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Speaker 3: Where you studied? Where are you doing a union degree?

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Speaker 3: He was like the He was like the ducks of

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Speaker 3: law at Melbourne UNI. Oh you're a deacon, so down

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Speaker 3: a couple of levels.

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Speaker 2: Oh and it's right. I was a deacon, Mark, don't worry.

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Speaker 2: I was a deacon,