WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - A Real Life Love Actually

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<v Speaker 1>Life on Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose

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<v Speaker 1>elders past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life

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<v Speaker 1>on Cut. I'm Brittany and I'm Laura, and someone in

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<v Speaker 1>this room is gonna be an auntie again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Laura, Okay me surprising me Brendant.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister Sherry, who most of you know. She's my

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<v Speaker 1>best friend. We've spent like literally our whole lives living

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<v Speaker 1>in the same bedroom. We shared the same bedroom. We

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<v Speaker 1>traveled the world together. We've been in sixty countries together.

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<v Speaker 1>We work together in a hospital like we are the

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<v Speaker 1>same human. We've been attached at the hip our entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, Sherry has been part of the OG Life, a

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<v Speaker 2>team in our Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 3>So you never got patrio for a bit, didn't we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Sherry, I'm so sick. Remember we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>earn anything for like a very long time. So she

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<v Speaker 3>just used to help. She's like, oh, do some admin

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<v Speaker 3>because she loved it. I always thought that we paid

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<v Speaker 3>her but we didn't. That's terrible. It's really bad. Sorry Sherry.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, she really needs that money now she's having a baby. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So my sister Sherry is having a baby, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>So she is already over halfway.

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<v Speaker 1>So she just didn't for whatever reason, she didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to jump on and announce it straight away. She just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to sit in it for a little while. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know her reason for that. But she's over halfway.

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<v Speaker 1>She's due at the end of September. And you might remember,

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<v Speaker 1>only a week or two ago, my suck was that

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<v Speaker 1>my sister's not coming home anymore. And I got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of messages yesterday because I put Sherry's pregnancy announcement

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<v Speaker 1>on my Instagram and a lot of people wrote to

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<v Speaker 1>me saying, oh, I get why you were so upset

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<v Speaker 1>that your sister's not coming back now.

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<v Speaker 2>So Sherry's made the decision that she's going to have

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<v Speaker 2>the baby over in Scotland and stay there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sherry's having the baby in Scotland, so it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a Scottish passport straight away.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, that's really tactical. I love that. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 3>guess the reason is so Sherry and Jay. So Jay's Scottish.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been living in Australia for six years their whole relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>So they recently went back to Scotland just for a

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<v Speaker 1>year or two so that he could spend some time

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<v Speaker 1>with his family before they spend the rest of their

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<v Speaker 1>life in Australia. Because it's a really like and this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I'm going to have to face too.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're in a relationship with someone foreign, one of

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<v Speaker 1>you has to make a huge sacrifice. One of you

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be away from your family and your

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<v Speaker 1>friends potentially for the rest of their life. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was always going to be day in that situation.

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<v Speaker 3>So they've decided to just.

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<v Speaker 1>Spend a little bit more time when they have the

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<v Speaker 1>baby with his family and his friends, and maybe when

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a year come back.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just and I I was actually crime because

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposed to be there for the birth, like she wants

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<v Speaker 1>me to be in the room. So I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the Gold Coast here when she had

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<v Speaker 1>the baby. And now, yeah, we both had a cry

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone the other day because she's like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, now I'm going to cry. She's like I just

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<v Speaker 3>wanted you to be in the room with me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>can't you go over and do it? Well, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to ask radio off work. Some things are more important,

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, surely, like, you know, she doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any family or friends over there, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>surely I can go over for a week and just

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<v Speaker 1>help her.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that first.

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<v Speaker 2>Week, just tell everyone you have COVID and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to go. And I won't, I won't tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get on a plane and go. And I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to get Britney's so sick. I saw her. She's got COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's got to really isolate. Well, here's the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>thing again. Ben, My Ben is gonna see it, be

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll probably be in there watching next slide out of

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<v Speaker 3>the vatch Or is that too much?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that too much? I think I think it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel differently about birth to the way I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people do. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people And this is not I don't say this is

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<v Speaker 2>a criticism, like I just think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, but I felt very differently about it.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people have a really clear idea of

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<v Speaker 2>how they want their birth to be, like the people

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<v Speaker 2>that they want in the room, like the setting of it,

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<v Speaker 2>the ambience, the sounds, the smells, like people really plan

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<v Speaker 2>out that birth experience and get it out of me. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>when I gave birth to Maley, Matt's mum was in

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<v Speaker 2>the room. Matt was in the room eating a chicken sandwich,

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<v Speaker 2>and I reckon there was about twenty doctors. One doctor

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<v Speaker 2>came in, he goes, oh, do you mind if a

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<v Speaker 2>few students come in. They're doing some training, And all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, I looked up and there were twenty

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<v Speaker 2>students just standing in the room, and I had this

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<v Speaker 2>moment where I was like, oh my god, I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if any of these people have clocked it that they're

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<v Speaker 2>standing here watching like one of the people from The

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<v Speaker 2>Bachelor having a baby. I was like, this is way

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<v Speaker 2>more confronting than I ever expected it to be twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five people in that room.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's fine to me. There's a football team in

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<v Speaker 3>my room.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that bothers me the most in that situation

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<v Speaker 1>is the chicken sandwich. I was like, that didn't need

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty people.

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<v Speaker 1>They're allowed, They're training. There's only one way for them

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<v Speaker 1>to learn, and that is to watch, So I'm okay

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But it's something different about like your sister's

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<v Speaker 1>husband being in there, Like I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>would want Jamie down there when my baby's coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know if Ben should be there.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that you just described Ben as your husband.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, dream, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Hate the word bye bye yeah, I girl, I can

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<v Speaker 3>fucking dream. Don't squish my dream. I'm trying to manifest,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, look it up manifestation. To be fair, Matt

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<v Speaker 3>almost missed the birth of Marley.

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<v Speaker 2>I was ten centimeters dilated and he went out for

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking chicken sandwich and the cafe was running really

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<v Speaker 2>slow and they they literally were talking about me needing

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<v Speaker 2>to start pushing, and Matt's mum then ran out of

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<v Speaker 2>the room to go and find him at the cafe

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<v Speaker 2>and wait, no one's here.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, just this football team, twenty strangers.

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<v Speaker 2>But honestly I know Sherry listens and Sherry, we're so

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<v Speaker 2>so excited for you. It's the best thing ever. Come

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<v Speaker 2>back to Australia so that we can have more babies here.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you in Scotland. It's cold, terrible place to

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<v Speaker 2>be when you just want to be so cute, so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do also want to say that I do

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<v Speaker 1>have like six other nieces and nephews, so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the first one, and I love them all. But Sherry

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<v Speaker 1>and I, I guess we're different because we're like absolute

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<v Speaker 1>best is.

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<v Speaker 3>It does make me think, though, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's not the reason to think you want

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, but Sherry and I always grew up thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that we would have kids at the same time. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm three years older than her, but I still knew

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<v Speaker 1>that she would probably have a child before me, because

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<v Speaker 1>we all know I've been on the fence and not knowing.

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<v Speaker 3>What ways up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Sherry's had a shit together for a bit

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<v Speaker 2>longer than she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a husband, a real one, not one that she

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<v Speaker 1>manifested out years ago, not one that she Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that you O g s will know this,

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<v Speaker 1>POGs will know, but some new people might not. But

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<v Speaker 1>Sherry and I are so close, then, don't take this

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong way. I picked Jay for Sherry. I picked

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<v Speaker 1>her husband in a not a creepy way, like I

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<v Speaker 1>found him for her and said, Wow, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling this guy and you were something's there.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't even see his picture. This is like on

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<v Speaker 3>Tinder back in the day. Can you tell for anyone

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<v Speaker 3>who doesn't know this story, can tell?

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<v Speaker 1>Yesuse I like that you're just alluding to a story

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<v Speaker 1>that people don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought if some people knew, But I guess it

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<v Speaker 3>was probably five years ago. We told this story all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Strap in So, Sherry and I were on this huge

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<v Speaker 1>three year trip that we'd said we'll both single at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. We both hated our jobs at the

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<v Speaker 1>time in a hospital, so we quit one day and

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, let's go travel the world with no plans,

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<v Speaker 1>because we'd saved up so much money to travel and

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<v Speaker 1>we knew would work overseas as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So off we went, and we're in South America.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been in South America for probably six or seven months,

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<v Speaker 1>and we knew that the next stop was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be Scotland. We knew we were going to the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>So one day after hiking much Epicchu, so we hiked

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<v Speaker 1>for four days, were exhausted. We were like, we just

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<v Speaker 1>want to lay in bed for twenty four hours straight.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're in a shared bed, and.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do when you're just laying in bed

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<v Speaker 2>on your phone and you're single.

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<v Speaker 1>In the same bed, mind you. We were like right

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<v Speaker 1>next to each other, so no, we didn't masturbate. Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>get I know who's masturbating with their sister in the bed?

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<v Speaker 3>It's legal, is it not? If it's your step But

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<v Speaker 3>she's my real one. So anyway, sidetrack, so we're both

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<v Speaker 3>We were like, hey, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is when Tinder brought the geo swipe in, like geolocation,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant you could set your location to any country

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<v Speaker 1>and would show you those people. So we set it

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<v Speaker 1>to Scotland. We were like, hey, we'll be in Scotland

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<v Speaker 1>a month or two. Let's see what the men are like.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we had these ideas of what the men were like,

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<v Speaker 1>which was Jamie from Outlander, like Sam Hwan, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>just not everyone was going to be like these big

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<v Speaker 1>Scottish hunks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they literally highlanders high.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So we swiped in and we're both in bed

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<v Speaker 1>next to each other on our respective Tinders. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>am older than Sherry, so I had a larger bracket.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're like, I am older than Sherry.

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<v Speaker 2>So Obviously, my bracket was much younger than hers, and

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<v Speaker 2>also much older than hers. I had a twenty year

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<v Speaker 2>bracket and she had a five year bracket.

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<v Speaker 3>My bracket was, Yeah, I cast my net wide, Laura,

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<v Speaker 3>I know you do, so ain't nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was swiping along. Now, this only happened one time.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole time, and I'm talking hundreds of swipes. I

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<v Speaker 1>came across this photo of thousands yeap of somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>must have just snuck into my age bracket because it

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<v Speaker 1>was I think at the time he was twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>He was really cute.

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<v Speaker 1>His profile was very funny, very satirical, very take the pierce.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know how you can link your Instagram, so

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<v Speaker 1>he and his Instagram linked. I went to that he

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<v Speaker 1>was way too young for me, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think i'd say those words.

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<v Speaker 3>He was too young for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said to Sherry, have you seen this guy yet?

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<v Speaker 1>And I showed her my Tinder and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay pre No, She's like, I haven't come across in

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<v Speaker 1>why And I said I don't know why. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>but you need to find him and swipe yes and

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<v Speaker 1>She's like why, and I said, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like something about this profile. I just think you

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<v Speaker 1>need to match him. So hours later she turns around

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, oh, is this him?

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<v Speaker 3>He was on her phone. I said, yes, that's the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, swipe right.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like random, Okay, I don't think she was

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<v Speaker 1>that impressed with the profile, so she's wiped right. They

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<v Speaker 1>matched and from that day I lost Sherry. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>am talking like rip you know, when you just meet

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<v Speaker 1>someone and you're infatuated. And because he worked from home

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<v Speaker 1>and she wasn't working, she was traveling, I reckon one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred plus messages a day, like you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>just can't stop talking back.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people might call that love bombing, but in this instance,

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<v Speaker 2>it really worked out for them.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't. They just hit it off.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say that many messages, they were talking

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<v Speaker 1>in like real time conversation, so you know, just one

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<v Speaker 1>line at a time. They just fell in love. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't meet for six seven weeks, they just talked NonStop.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they met, and from that day forth they've been together.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing I like the most, and you've missed out

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<v Speaker 1>this part of the story. Well, it's just they went

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<v Speaker 1>on their first date and it kind of was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit shit, and Sherry was like, oh my god, I've

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<v Speaker 1>just spent all this time talking to this guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>went on it with them, and then in real life

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't really have much to say, and then gave

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<v Speaker 1>it another chance, and then it just you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was nerves.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went on their first day. We loved Jay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I went on the first date, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was well because at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>day we didn't know him right like, and her and

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<v Speaker 1>I had just gotten to a foreign country. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let her go to some random online in a

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<v Speaker 1>foreign country alone.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't know anyone. I don't think we even had

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<v Speaker 3>phones that worked there at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, it's only fair. You've been there since

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<v Speaker 2>the start. You should be looking down the canal at

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<v Speaker 2>her vagina when that baby comes into the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You created that baby as well. Yeah, so that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I got sidetracks. I just told you my sister's love story.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's an amazing story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we love Jay and Sherry, we love you, and

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<v Speaker 2>also thank you so much for working for us for

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<v Speaker 2>free for so long.

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<v Speaker 3>She's still that this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Not okay, this is no longer okay, so please don't

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<v Speaker 1>take us to HR. We don't have one HR. So

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<v Speaker 1>we said it's fine, No, we'll slip or something.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, anyway, guys, we do say that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the intros to ask gun Cuts short.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been saying this for well the better half.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this year, and unfortunately sometimes the intros really blow out,

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<v Speaker 2>but today's one was an important one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we are going to moving forward just be

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<v Speaker 1>doing as gun cut.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a little high just a little promise, things that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't plan on going through with.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to say one thing before we get

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<v Speaker 3>into our vibes, and i'd watch that come out. Did

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<v Speaker 3>you want to be there for the next one? If

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<v Speaker 3>I have a third?

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<v Speaker 2>If I have a third no, Well Matt says no,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you know, he also says, I always get

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<v Speaker 2>my way.

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<v Speaker 3>If I do get my way, do you want to

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<v Speaker 3>be in the room? I mean we could podcast live

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<v Speaker 3>from birth? Want to do it? It's the third one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care the first one and second one I

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<v Speaker 2>probably wouldn't have, but like third, like all bets are off,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to say, yes, yeap, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's something you run past, Matt. Will you be at

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<v Speaker 1>the business end or the top end business? Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>could do the ladyectomy at the same time. A little

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<v Speaker 1>snipstip pump down there it after the third one.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what I wanted to say is before we get

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<v Speaker 2>intovised on subscribes, is I wanted to say a very

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<v Speaker 2>big thank you to so many of you reached out

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<v Speaker 2>to me after Tuesday's episode. I can't tell you how

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<v Speaker 2>many private messages I received. I haven't written back to

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<v Speaker 2>everyone yet because there was just so many of you

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<v Speaker 2>who wrote such kind messages. And also to those of

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<v Speaker 2>you who wrote in and if you didn't listen to

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday's episode, I was speaking about my stepdad, who is

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<v Speaker 2>going through palliative care at the moment with his prostate

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<v Speaker 2>cancer diagnosis, and it was just your messages were so heartfelt.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciated them so much, And if I don't get

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<v Speaker 2>the chance to get back to all of you, just

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<v Speaker 2>know that I've read them and also like how much

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you guys, and I hope that you did

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<v Speaker 2>take on that message and I would love to know

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<v Speaker 2>if you did go home and have a conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>your dad around getting his prostate checked. Like, please send

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<v Speaker 2>us those messages because I think that that, for me

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<v Speaker 2>was the most important thing to get across in that episode,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I hope that it really did spark some

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<v Speaker 2>conversations in your households, with your parents and with the

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<v Speaker 2>men in your life who you love.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys are literally the best, and Laurie, you've

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<v Speaker 1>also had We also had like an anonymous card turn

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<v Speaker 1>up to Tony.

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<v Speaker 3>May I know, and then we had a card at

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<v Speaker 3>my office.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my staff who I do pay brought me

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<v Speaker 2>and brought me an envelope and JPC you are one

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<v Speaker 2>of our listeners and you wrote the most incredible card

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<v Speaker 2>and you didn't leave a return address because you're very naughty,

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<v Speaker 2>but just talked about the things that you've been going

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<v Speaker 2>through and how much these conversations and the pod have

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<v Speaker 2>brought you comfort in what's been a really incredibly challenging

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<v Speaker 2>time for you. And we got to experience this when

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<v Speaker 2>we did the live shows last year. So many of

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<v Speaker 2>you guys gave us cards or letters or we got

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<v Speaker 2>to speak to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we got to speak to you.

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<v Speaker 2>About your stories and the reasons why you've connected with

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<v Speaker 2>the conversations we've had here, and it means so much

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<v Speaker 2>to Britain I because you know, when we started this,

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<v Speaker 2>it was pre COVID. We were just two friends in

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<v Speaker 2>a bedroom having a conversation around the things that were

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<v Speaker 2>important to us.

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<v Speaker 3>And the fact is that so many of you have resonated.

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<v Speaker 2>With those conversations over the years, and that in itself

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<v Speaker 2>is just such a privilege.

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<v Speaker 3>But JPC, we adore you.

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<v Speaker 2>We're so sorry for all of the challenging things that

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<v Speaker 2>you've been going through, but we're so so grateful to

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<v Speaker 2>hear that you're on the other side of it and

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<v Speaker 2>that the podcast played even just the smallest part in

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<v Speaker 2>bringing some happiness to your day.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's get into vibes and unsubscribe. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>vibe in an unsubscribe. I'm gonna start with my vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>We never have unsubscribed.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the reason for that is is because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to appear as though we're complaining. But I

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of things that I hate in life.

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<v Speaker 2>I can get on board with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but this one, and you're here in a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one isn't complaining, complaining, and the unsubscribed is

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<v Speaker 1>also a default vibe. Okay, I'm going to start with

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<v Speaker 1>my vibe. My vibe this week is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>came across accidentally on the news, like a news article,

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<v Speaker 1>and I clicked on the links and I watched the

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<v Speaker 1>videos and then I saw that it was a whole

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<v Speaker 1>TV show. It's a TV series and it's called Body Parts.

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<v Speaker 1>You can watch it on nine now. So I got

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<v Speaker 1>the app It's an annaplastologist.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what that is? No, okay, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is someone who reconstructs body parts. Oh yeah, okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>wait wit, it's like playing charades. It's someone who makes prosthetics. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so she's an American woman. Her job is exactly that.

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<v Speaker 2>Her job is to recreate prosthetics, but not a prosthetic like.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw for Ellie Cole. You know, it's not a.

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<v Speaker 1>Leg prosthetic, but their life like they genuinely look like

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<v Speaker 1>a body part.

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<v Speaker 3>It is an art form. I have never seen anything

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<v Speaker 3>like it.

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<v Speaker 1>And each episode I'm gonna recommend one particular episode, but

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<v Speaker 1>each episode is a few different people with different you know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone's had cancer and they had mystectomies and wants new nipples.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people have lost ears.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone men's lost his nose to cancer, like his entire

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<v Speaker 1>nose is gone. And it talks about their story, what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to them, how they feel, and how they've lived

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<v Speaker 1>their life.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she recreates the.

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<v Speaker 1>Most lifelike one woman got two new arms, entire arms

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<v Speaker 1>because she had no arms at their elbows and the

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<v Speaker 1>arms like it is matched to a t to the person,

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<v Speaker 1>measured to the person, so it looks the same length

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<v Speaker 1>out it would look the coloring and it just changes

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<v Speaker 1>their life. And I want an episode. So it's called

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<v Speaker 1>body Parts. I watched it on nine now it's a

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<v Speaker 1>free app episode three if you just want to pick one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about centers around this little boy who lost both

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<v Speaker 1>of his ears and a bit of his face in

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<v Speaker 1>a dog attack when he was really young.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby yeah, and it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like strapping for some emotions, but he's the most beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>little boy and just watching when they get the new

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<v Speaker 1>prosthesis and it changes their life because especially for the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>kids are so unassuming.

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<v Speaker 2>This reminds me of I don't know if anyone's ever

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<v Speaker 2>done it. I went down a rabbit hole a really

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago on Instagram, just watching kids have their

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<v Speaker 2>cochlear implants.

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<v Speaker 3>Turned on the for the very first time. That another

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<v Speaker 3>it's the same, it's that it's the same feeling. And

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<v Speaker 3>just like him told us it's good to have a cry,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, you know, why do you?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know when you talk about to the man,

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<v Speaker 1>the grown man in his sixties that once in new nose,

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<v Speaker 1>even that is emotional because they're like, why do you?

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<v Speaker 3>How's this going to change your life?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, I don't want my grandkid to look

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<v Speaker 1>at me and think I'm scary, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to not wear glasses and feel comfortable, just the

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<v Speaker 1>little things. But the little boy, he was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear people talking. I hear my friends talk about me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to find, like it's hard to have friends.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like seven years old, and I'm like, well baby,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's just Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>You will love it.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys will cry, but you'll cry beautiful tears. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is my beautifully wholesome vibe. Well you could have

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<v Speaker 1>just left it at a really nice vibe and now

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<v Speaker 1>you're unsubscribing from stuff. Well I was just gonna unsubscribe

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<v Speaker 1>from series, dropping only four episodes and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait two months for the next four Bridgeton. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Bridgeton because I love Bridgeton. Bridgeton's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I would Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it sat in one night and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know they only dropped four. And then I got to

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<v Speaker 1>the end and I was like, where's the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the series. They were like, come in in twenty eight years.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like coming in a month's time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, look, who has time to watch full series?

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway? Maybe it's good means that you can get some

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<v Speaker 3>more in the middle done.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think it's fair to end it on

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<v Speaker 2>a cliff Hangarys and expect people to wait for a month.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you do over the end of a series.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that mid series. It was a really crucial moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a sexy moment, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>spoil it for people that haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna be horny for a month now I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm locked into the horn dog if I have the.

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<v Speaker 5>Self control, and I know because I knew that this

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<v Speaker 5>was going to happen, so I didn't feel as annoyed

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<v Speaker 5>like I knew going in that it was only four episodes.

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<v Speaker 5>But if I have the self control and I know this,

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<v Speaker 5>I actually wait until the week that the second lot

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be released so that I can watch

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<v Speaker 5>it kind of as one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tactic. But I didn't have the self controls I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would have done that. I would have done that. I

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<v Speaker 1>have great regret. Producisha, What is your vibe for the week?

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<v Speaker 3>Mine is also on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 5>It's actually something that came out in twenty eighteen, but

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of missed it at the time. It's called

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<v Speaker 5>Three Identical Strangers. It is about three identical triplets that

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<v Speaker 5>were all adopted by separate families. They didn't know that

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<v Speaker 5>each other existed until two of them ended up going

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<v Speaker 5>to the same college and friends were like calling him

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<v Speaker 5>the name of the other person. As it turns out,

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<v Speaker 5>that story went quite viral and viral in the old

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<v Speaker 5>school way because this was like, you know, they were

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<v Speaker 5>in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like in the papers and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And then it turns out that there was a

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<v Speaker 5>third one, and so they all became friends because they

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<v Speaker 5>had this biological connection as brothers, and the start of

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<v Speaker 5>it was this real global sensation. And then later in

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<v Speaker 5>the documentary and kind of the story that ended up

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<v Speaker 5>playing out in their life took this extremely dark turn,

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<v Speaker 5>and they found out that they had actually been unknowing

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<v Speaker 5>participants in a research study that was being conducted at

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<v Speaker 5>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>This to me just seems like terrific. I understand.

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<v Speaker 5>See, I don't feel as though it's horrific, even though

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<v Speaker 5>on the surface it seems it, because it's this whole

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<v Speaker 5>debate around nature versus nurture, and in any type of

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<v Speaker 5>genetic study, basically the only information that we're able to

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<v Speaker 5>reduce about nurture versus nature comes from twin studies that

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<v Speaker 5>have been separated. Beare because they've grown up in different environments.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't you think that's horrific that they chose to

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<v Speaker 1>rip them apart as towldren just to study them?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, I just think that, like what we've gained from

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<v Speaker 5>it is potentially a lot, even though it's incredibly unethical

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<v Speaker 5>to do that. And also to have them be participants

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<v Speaker 5>in a study when they didn't know the parents that

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<v Speaker 5>they had no idea as well, it was utterly fascinating

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<v Speaker 5>and it really took this turn, and it turns out

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<v Speaker 5>that there were more twins that were separated through adoption

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<v Speaker 5>as well. The one part about the story, and I

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<v Speaker 5>kind of want to preface this just in case you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to watch it, there is a really really dark

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<v Speaker 5>conversation that comes out about mental health and whether that

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<v Speaker 5>is a heritable.

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<v Speaker 3>Condition or not.

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<v Speaker 5>I just found this documentary so layered and yeah, beyond fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the main word that I have for it. I

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<v Speaker 3>can back that up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really really good, but I think it really makes

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<v Speaker 2>you question the ethics behind how you can conduct experiments

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<v Speaker 2>like that on children who are non consenting and denying

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<v Speaker 2>them the right to know about their biological heritage and

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<v Speaker 2>to know about like where they've come from. The thing

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<v Speaker 2>for me is, and what I thought was so fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>is like, how can you be sure that that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>then contribute to the mental health? But how can you

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<v Speaker 2>be sure that the experiment in itself, not having those

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<v Speaker 2>strong ties to knowing who you are and where you've

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<v Speaker 2>come from as a person, didn't actually cause the root

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<v Speaker 2>of those mental health concerns, I think is a big

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<v Speaker 2>question mark.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So it examines a whole lot of different things

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<v Speaker 5>and also importantly, these were psychological studies from the fifties

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<v Speaker 5>and the sixties, so very very different lens to what

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<v Speaker 5>we now have in terms of ethics. It's available on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 5>It is called Three Identical Strangers.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I'd be pissed if I was a triplet, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I found out as an adult that I would

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<v Speaker 1>from my states.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, can I sue people for this?

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<v Speaker 5>Hondy?

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon it all right.

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<v Speaker 2>My recommendation is a No Filter episode No Filter with

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<v Speaker 2>Mere Friedman, and this podcast episode is interviewing a woman

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<v Speaker 2>named Patrick Gagney, which stands for Patricia Gagney now it

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<v Speaker 2>is called Patricia Gagney is a sociopath.

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<v Speaker 3>We speak about sociopaths a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>We usually think of them as murderers, or as criminals,

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<v Speaker 2>or as you know, people who live very dark and

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<v Speaker 2>unempathetic lives. And I think the reason why this is

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<v Speaker 2>so fascinating is because Patrick is a diagnosed sociopath, but

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<v Speaker 2>she's someone who has the cognitive awareness to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to know that that's what she is, and she is

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<v Speaker 2>actively working on not being that in the ways that

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<v Speaker 2>she can. So she's married, she has children, and probably

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't present in any of the ways that we have

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<v Speaker 2>been conditioned to think that a sociopath would or should behave.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also think the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other thing that's really interesting about this is like what

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<v Speaker 2>it's like being a child to a sociopath, What it's

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<v Speaker 2>like having friends when you're a sociopath, what it's like

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<v Speaker 2>navigating romantic relationships when you're a sociopath. And also because

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<v Speaker 2>like so much of the recommendations when you have someone

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<v Speaker 2>who is on their NPD narcissity personality disorder spectrum, or

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<v Speaker 2>even somebody who is the very far end of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and as a sociopath, we always recommend just getting as

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<v Speaker 2>far fucking away from them as possible, like get away

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<v Speaker 2>from them, don't have them in your life. They're incapable

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<v Speaker 2>of having normal human interactions. And so Patrick kind of

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<v Speaker 2>goes through and describes what that is like from her side.

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<v Speaker 2>But also the other part of this is like how

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<v Speaker 2>she discovered that she was so different in how she

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<v Speaker 2>felt empathy to those around her as well. Fatati.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's also written a book called Sociopath.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the point is, Laura and when you said,

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<v Speaker 1>usually hear the word sociopath and we're like run. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's because most sociopaths don't know they're a sociopath or

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<v Speaker 1>won't admit they're a sociopath. And this is the difference

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<v Speaker 1>with her. She owns it, she knows that it she is,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's working.

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<v Speaker 2>Actively every day, but she still talks about all the

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<v Speaker 2>feelings that she knows she doesn't feel.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was about to say, like, it would be

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<v Speaker 5>so interesting to talk to someone like that because I

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<v Speaker 5>want to unpack how they feel shame.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't, that's so interesting. But also they're married.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine being married to that and having always having a

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<v Speaker 2>wife who's like, I know, I don't feel the things

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<v Speaker 2>you feel, but still being so in love with them,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she's got friends, she lives a normal functioning life.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it is such a unique look at someone who

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<v Speaker 2>sits within that spectrum.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so like the reason I mean this shame thing

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<v Speaker 5>is because we want to have empathy for that, because

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<v Speaker 5>we're like, oh, it's not your fault that you can't

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<v Speaker 5>process emotions in the same way that we can. But

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<v Speaker 5>if they don't feel shame about it, then it's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like, well why do.

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<v Speaker 3>We feel empathy?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Totally? All right, Well let's get into the questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, question number one should I attend the funeral. I

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<v Speaker 1>was with my ex for twelve years. During the last

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<v Speaker 1>three of those years, my ex mother in law lived

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<v Speaker 1>with us. I knew her very well. I'm now happily

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<v Speaker 1>married with two kids, and I haven't spoken to anyone

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<v Speaker 1>from that family for six years. Recently, I found out

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<v Speaker 1>my ex mother in law had gotten very sick, and

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<v Speaker 1>it got me thinking about when she passes away. I

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<v Speaker 1>would want to pay my respects to her, given she

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge part of my past life, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if attending her funeral and seen my ex

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<v Speaker 1>and his family for the first time since leaving him

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<v Speaker 1>would only.

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<v Speaker 3>Add to their pain.

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<v Speaker 1>My question is, who do you attend a funeral fall

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the person who has passed away or their

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<v Speaker 1>loved ones left behind? Or are you going for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun The woman's not dead yet, she's still alive, but

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<v Speaker 3>she's clearly dying. I mean, she got sick. She's probably

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<v Speaker 3>the flu. Let's wait till she dies. No, Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 3>take it seriously. I am I do have opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have opinions, one because I've been in this

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<v Speaker 2>exact situation, but more as an observer, and I'll explain that,

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<v Speaker 2>So my ex boyfriend, his father passed away.

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<v Speaker 3>It was horrifically sad.

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<v Speaker 2>I was his girlfriend, very new girlfriend at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>mind you, like, we've only been dating for a few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks passed when dad passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>His ex wife, who he had been with for I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they met in Uni, they've been with for like

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<v Speaker 2>over a decade, was very very close to his dad.

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<v Speaker 2>So the funeral came and his ex wife came to

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<v Speaker 2>the funeral. Now, from his perspective, I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly hard because the funeral turned into it just being

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<v Speaker 2>a time for him to be able to warn his dad.

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<v Speaker 2>But it turned into like I mean, like you know

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<v Speaker 2>when your ex is in a room and then you

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<v Speaker 2>feel that feeling of like, fuck, they're here.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I talk to them? Do I not talk to them?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>How long have they been split up? For years?

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<v Speaker 2>They've been separated for years, and they weren't they went

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<v Speaker 2>on good terms, they weren't speaking.

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<v Speaker 3>It ended very badly.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a really highly anxious time for him

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<v Speaker 2>during a time when I think he should have just

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<v Speaker 2>been able to focus on grieving, but he was very

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<v Speaker 2>focused on this whole drama of his ex wife being there,

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<v Speaker 2>and also on the day of the funeral. It was

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<v Speaker 2>even more exacerbated by the fact that as we were

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<v Speaker 2>entering the funeral, he went to give her a hug

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, don't touch me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not here for you. So it was very it

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<v Speaker 3>was that's to me, that's selfish.

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<v Speaker 2>He treated her very bad in their relationship, mind you,

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<v Speaker 2>so like it ended because of his behaviors. So I

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<v Speaker 2>understand why she has animosity, and I understand why she

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<v Speaker 2>would feel I'm here for my relationship with your father

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't really care about you right now, and

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 2>they were really close. So on one hand, I absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>respect her decision to want to go to the funeral

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<v Speaker 2>because she had a relationship with the person who passed away.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, I think it caused more

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<v Speaker 2>unnecessary hurt to someone who is already grieving, even if

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<v Speaker 2>they were the person who was in the wrong in

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship. So I guess my big question to you

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<v Speaker 2>is you haven't had contact with them now for six years.

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<v Speaker 2>You haven't had any contact with her for six years.

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<v Speaker 2>You have lost that connection. I think, if anything, you

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<v Speaker 2>should reach out now and say I've heard that your

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 2>mom's really unwell. I hope you are okay. I hope

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 2>your mom is okay, and you see how that's received

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<v Speaker 2>rather than just rocking up at a funeral, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think that then that funeral becomes about you in some ways,

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<v Speaker 2>not about the person who's grieving, and not about the

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<v Speaker 2>person who passed away.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like it can create a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>drama for people who are already really really really hurting.

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if people will agree with that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a tricky, tricky thing to navigate.

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any black and white answer here.

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>This is so dependent on each situation. How long were

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>you together, what was your situation, how close were you

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>did you live together? Why did you end? How long

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 1>ago did you end? What's their situationship? Like now, there

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>are so many factors of this. There's no like, yes,

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you can go to an excess funeral, No you can't

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>because you don't know what happened.

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 3>In this specific situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like saying don't go, and you're asking a

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>question like who are you going for? She's passed away

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>at this point and you haven't spoken to her for

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>six years, so you didn't reach out when she was sick. Yeah,

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>So what I'm thinking here is it is only probably

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>going to, like you said yourself, and you probably know

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>deep down, it's probably only going to add to the

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>pain of him. He's dealing with enough there at that time.

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>He's just lost his mum. I don't think he needs

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>to see someone from the past, from that long ago.

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean you can't pay your respects to her,

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't have to physically go and stand in

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a crowd with everybody else to mourn someone and think

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>about someone and grieve someone.

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 3>But I think if you're at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Point now where you're like I would want to pay

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>my respects, then why don't you want to speak to

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>her now when she's still alive?

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 3>So this is what I think. Can you call her

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 3>and say I've heard your un well. I wanted to

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 3>check in and see and see how you are. Is

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 3>there anything I can do for you?

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Like, if you haven't spoken to her now and you

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>can't or don't want to reach out when she's unwell,

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>then I don't think you should be putting everyone else

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>in the position at the funeral.

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Also, I think think sometimes put yourself in the position

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<v Speaker 2>like flip it, reverse it is.

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Is that I would yes do that, flip it and

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 3>reverse it.

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>If this was your mum or your dad and you

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>hadn't spoken to your ex in six years, they hadn't

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 2>spoken to your mum and dad in six years, and

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 2>they came to the funeral unannounced. You didn't know they

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 2>were going to be there. Would it take something away

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>from the funeral, from your.

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Ability to grieve?

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Would it make it a bit awkward for you? You

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 2>would you be thinking, oh my god, fuck my exes

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 2>in the room. Oh just don't really have the capacity

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>to talk to him right now? Like how would you feel?

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think if your response to that is that

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>there's any reservations or it would really impact your ability

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 2>to grieve, Like I would say, had the same respect

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 2>for him.

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 3>But I totally agree with you, Britt.

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I think that there's no point showing your respects after

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>someone's passed away when you could literally call them when

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 2>they're alive.

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>That had been y Yeah, my ex, Like my I

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>always say my main X because I always in my

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>head I feel like I had this. You know, I

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>was with him for eight years, so a huge time

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>of our life and we lived with his dad for

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>a while, like such an integral part of each other's

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>life and from like you know, from sixteen to twenty four,

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>so that huge part where you come.

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Out of age.

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.239
<v Speaker 1>We ended on really amicable terms just because we were

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>going different directions. And his dad passed away after a

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>few years, like a few years later, and I did

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>not go to the funeral, but I could have because

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>he was a huge part of my life. But I

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't speak to my ex anymore, but I did message him.

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I reached out and I just said, I'm so sorry.

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I get emotional thinking about it. I'm like, I'm I heard,

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm really sorry, and I'm just wanting you know,

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about you, and I hope you get through

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>this okay, And that's it, because I imagine the last

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>thing he would have wanted was for me to turn up.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Like absolutely, And similarly was the situation with my grandfather.

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 2>So my papa, who was like such a father figure

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 2>in my life when he passed away, my ex of

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 2>six years, who you know, who was like my big

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>big love who he was at that point of my life,

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 2>my big big love. Sorry about no, but like genuinely,

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think we both had thought life would

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 2>turn out differently. He was that person for me. He

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 2>messaged me. He did not show up the funeral, and

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 2>it was a small funeral. You also don't know the

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 2>size of it. Some people have big funerals. My papa's funeral,

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>there was only like forty people there. It would have

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 2>stood out like a sore fucking thumb if my ex

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend was sitting there in the back row.

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>But this is also how much I can't stress that

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>it depends on the situation.

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 3>If something happened to my dad, and.

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting myself in the situation and my exes plural

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>turned up, but specifically this one of eight years, if

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>he turned.

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Up, I would welcome that. That wouldn't bother me.

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think if I actually turned up to

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>his dad's I don't I think he would have thought

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that was nice, because we probably wouldn't have spoken or

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>been together, but I think we had that sort of

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>relationship that he probably would have been like, thanks for coming.

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 3>And that's here.

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's how much it depends on what you had

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>with that person and what you have now. And but

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess I can't stress the point enough it's so

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>important to note that she's not dead yet if you

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>want to pay respects to the point that you're getting

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>anxiety about it, like you're pre thinking about what.

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 3>You're going to do when she passes. Do it now? Yeah,

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 3>that's what I think.

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't feel like you're close enough to

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>do it now, then I don't think you should be

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>going to the funeral when he's grieving.

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally Agreeve all right, question muff two, and

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 2>this is a very dumb one.

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<v Speaker 3>No question is a dumb one.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry to what is the etiquette when using someone else's

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>shower when you're staying with that?

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Some questions? Okay, not one question? Don't wait?

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you bring your own shampoo, conditioner, and body wash?

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Or is it exctble to just use theirs? What?

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 3>It's so hard.

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>To answer no, because I'm actually don't know. My immediate

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>thought was this is so stupid.

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Of course you can use theirs. But now I'm thinking

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 3>I have some pretty I.

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Have, like a sign up membership to my shampoo and conditioner,

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Like it's expensive and it's if.

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Someone was gone willy neely with it, throwing it around.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on the Okay, it depends, but no, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, if you're staying at someone's house, if you

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>knew you were going to be staying at the house,

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>if you're having an overnight stay, bring your own shit

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>because it's planned. If you're having a sleepover that wasn't

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 2>as planned, then yeah, of course you can use whatever's

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 2>in their house. But I think, like, don't just rock

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 2>up to someone's house and not bring a single thing

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 2>and expect to use every single one of their toiletry items,

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Like that's.

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 3>A bit random. Yeah, I think body wash though free

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 3>for all. Anyone can use body wash. Yeah, okay, here's

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 3>what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's one night, if you're going one or two nights,

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fine. You can you know, you're a guest,

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you can use their stuff. I wouldn't care if someone

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>use my stuff. But if you're coming for a couple

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>of weeks stay, like, if you're settling in you're probably

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna be there, then you've got to bring your own stuff.

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 3>You have to.

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.240
<v Speaker 1>It's not a hotel. It's not on them to provide

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>what you need. But also like n a night's fine, Yes,

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>of course, the night's fine. And if you walk into

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>their shower and the only things that they have is

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>like Chanelle products for everything. I would say that there

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>is like a scale. If it's Dove body wash, that's

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>a free for all. If it's Chanell body wash, I

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>would say, use that shit sparingly. I have, and probably

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>put it back in the exact position of which you

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>used it from so that they don't know for sure

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>whether you used it or not. So I have two bathrooms.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I have two bedrooms, two bathrooms in my flat. And

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>my bathroom that's my en suite, is like all my

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>expensive stuff, like the skin can that I like to use,

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and my really nice hair conditioner and my treatment and

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>everything like that really good face washes. But then the

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 1>other bathroom is like the backup bathroom. If someone comes

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to stay and it's like and it's full of palmolive,

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:57.879
<v Speaker 1>it's the two in one.

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 3>It's like the it's like the one anti dandru no.

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 1>But it's the stuff where I'm like, this is if

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody needed a shower in there, it's set with everything

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:07.720
<v Speaker 1>that they need, but it's not the high end stuff.

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 3>That's what I've done to separate it.

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I don't think that this is a

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 2>big problem, But I do think it's weird if you

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>were not planning on staying at their house and you

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>brought your things, so like, there's nothing worse than when

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 2>you go on like a one like you've got a

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.280
<v Speaker 2>date with someone, for example. And actually this is funny

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>because Johno, who is our video editor, he always has

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>like an overnight bag in his bag.

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>He's the guy that you can be like, hey, I

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.439
<v Speaker 1>need deodorant. He's like, here's some deodorant.

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>But if you rocked up on a date with me

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 2>and you'd brought an overnight bag to a date, I

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 2>would think that creepy as fuck.

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 3>I went on a date once and the guy rocked

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 3>up with like shampoo, conditioner, and a tried a whole

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 3>overnight bag. It's not okay, And well.

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 1>He stayed, but I'm angry that he presumed that was

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen.

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, in his defense.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Nah, there is none okay anyway, Okay, what if.

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.240
<v Speaker 3>They bring like spare underwear and he put a toothbrush. Yeah,

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 3>this is what happened, right, And I get it.

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>He turned it with the backpack and I was I

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, what's in the backpack because we'd never met.

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>We'd been talking though for like a week online and

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I was in the backpack and he's like, to be honest,

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>he's like, just stuff in case. I yes, He's like,

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 1>because he was staying at a family member's house across Sydney,

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.760
<v Speaker 1>like Western Sydney. It would have been hours on public

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>transport that night. He's like, look in case, better to

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>be prepared in case it went well. I just thought,

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I'll bring him backpack. If it doesn't, I'll just go

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.280
<v Speaker 1>home in my backpack. It's no bigg It was great.

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:30.399
<v Speaker 1>That would have been a challenge to send him home.

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I would have been like, oh, okay, you came prepared,

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>well you can you can leave prepared. You know. The

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>funniest thing. I said that he could stay because I

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>felt bad for him. But I was like, nothing's gonna happen.

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>You can stay, you can stay on the lounge.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 3>And then you pity fucked him. We all knew how

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 3>that was gonna end. And I tried. We went home

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 3>and I was I made the lounge for him and

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:49.720
<v Speaker 3>it was so hot.

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.760
<v Speaker 1>You know him, you know who's the one, the American

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>one that went over to America.

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know it, did?

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it?

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Remember the guy that I accidentally stalked his girlfriend and

0:36:58.280 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>liked her and followed her on Facebook and then she

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, why is that random girl following me on Facebook?

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a whole another segue anyway, when I do remember

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>when I first went to Ben's house, and I feel

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>like this is indicative of men first went over to

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>stay there, got into the shower. We didn't really know

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>each other yet. It was just the most cliche men's shower.

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.440
<v Speaker 1>There was nothing, not one thing, No face wash, no soap,

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>no shampoo condisher. There was like one five in one. Ah, yeah,

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>it was a five in one. There was just like

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>one little body washy thing. And I was like, baby,

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>what do you use for soap? And he's like body wash?

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:29.839
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like what about face wash? He's like body wash.

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what about your shampign conditioner? He's like

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>body wassh.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. That's all he used the whole thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you are not prepared to have a girlfriends. Yeah.

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, at least I know you're not

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>hooking up with people. Because he's coming over there. No

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>woman has been here. For a while, there is no evidence,

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing. Yeah, look, I mean I think it's fine.

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I think you can if you're staying at someone's house

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and just don't take a dump in their bath and

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you're doing fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Who the fuck is shitting in someone's bar? Someone probably

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 3>is talking about shower eediqutt. I'm just saying, to be clear.

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 2>We're not talking about We're not talking about bath etiquette,

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<v Speaker 2>all right?

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 3>Question three?

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<v Speaker 2>How do I let a work colleague know that I

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 2>have no interest in being friends with them outside of work?

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.479
<v Speaker 3>Kisha? Did you write this in or even at work?

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I really struggle working with this particular person,

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 2>but that's clearly unbeknownst to her. As she continuously asked

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 2>me to do things outside of work. I always come

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 2>up with excuses not to go, but it's getting harder

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 2>and harder. Also, these are not big group activities where

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 2>everyone is invited. It's literally just the two of us

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 2>and maybe one or two other people. Do I need

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.439
<v Speaker 2>to be more direct with her or just say yes

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.240
<v Speaker 2>and make it really bad time, then get a really

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>bad time because she doesn't want to hang out anymore,

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:39.359
<v Speaker 2>or just keep putting up with it and coming up

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 2>with more excuses.

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I know this is a super same question, but

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm really desperate.

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>This reminds me of that movie How to Lose a

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Gun Ten Days, you know how She's like, I'm going

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>to be the worst person on a.

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Day, the worst friend. Yeah, this makes me feel sad.

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Who for the friend, for the girl who wants a friend?

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:58.240
<v Speaker 3>The work colleague? Yeah, I feel she clearly I feel

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.240
<v Speaker 3>sad for her. I think she's not reading the room.

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 3>She's not reading the room.

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.720
<v Speaker 2>But she obviously isn't someone who has close friends, because

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.919
<v Speaker 2>why is she trying to push a friendship so hard

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 2>with someone who clearly doesn't like her.

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:10.439
<v Speaker 3>She's difficult to work with us, Probably why she doesn't

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 3>have close friends. I think, oh, look, I get this.

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I have always been this person that hasn't and I

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>think that's more of a personality trait as opposed to

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 1>like not wanting friends. But I've always tried to keep

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>my work life separate to my personal life, which is

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>hard because sometimes unless you really froth the person, like

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I have made some best Yeah, I've made some best

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 1>friends through the hospit Because hospitals that I've worked in,

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of people work at the hospital, so you're always

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>going to meet someone in some department that you click with.

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:41.320
<v Speaker 3>But when it's a smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>Office, which I'm assuming this is right, like you see

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>her every day, I'm assuming it's a small office, she

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>wants to hang out. You don't really get along with her,

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>by the sounds of it, or you don't really like

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 1>spending time with her, and you don't want to spend

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 1>time with her. I do feel a little bit sorry

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 1>for a Laura in all seriousness, because she's trying to

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>have a friend. But we don't have to things we

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do, and you don't have to spend

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>your time with someone that you don't want to And

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I know that sounds mean, But the older we get

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and the more responsibilities we have, and when you start

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.359
<v Speaker 1>to have kids and you've got you're so stressed, you're

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 1>so busy with work and just trying to survive and

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to fucking live in this economy, that time is

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>such a precious commodity. You don't want to be spending

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it with people you genuinely don't have an interest in

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>or don't like.

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:24.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the easy bit.

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to go and it's worse for you

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 1>to go and be a mole so that she hates you.

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Like that is way worse. The part I don't know

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:34.879
<v Speaker 1>what to do is I don't know how you say

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:37.399
<v Speaker 1>it to her. I don't know if you just have

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that conversation and say, look, I really try and keep

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>my work and my personal life separate. I hope that

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that's okay with you, but like that's just how I

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>like to operate, or maybe.

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:49.319
<v Speaker 3>It's just easier to consistently say you're busy. I agree

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 3>with you, Britt.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that you should force yourself to be

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<v Speaker 2>friends with people who you don't feel as though that

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 2>you're getting anything out of the frendship either, Like if

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>you're just doing it to be nice because this person

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 2>keeps asking you, that's not the foundations of what a

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 2>friendship is based on.

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 3>And that's okay.

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, you will really vibe with some people and

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you won't vibe with others. It does make me sad

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 2>for her that maybe she doesn't have friends and she

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 2>is really trying. Yeah, but it's also not worth her

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.959
<v Speaker 2>putting her energy into someone who maybe she thinks could

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 2>be her friend, and that you are just busy and

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>you're not able to do something instead of being able to, like,

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, try and actually make other friends who might

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 2>actually be invest in her. I don't think it's necessary

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 2>to have a sit down conversation with her around placing boundaries.

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes.

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:36.399
<v Speaker 2>I think we can really overshoot it with this sort

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 2>of stuff. I also don't think you need to come

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.359
<v Speaker 2>up with constant excuses. You just have to say, I'm

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 2>not able to I'm busy. You don't have to explain

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 2>why you're busy. Sometimes when we give people a know,

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:48.919
<v Speaker 2>we often feel as though we need to explain why

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 2>the no is a no. It's because it is that

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>easy and give context. Yeah, I know, it's not.

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Because I think of this conversation ready, like, hey, do

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you want to hang out tonight?

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I'm so sorry I can't. I'm actually

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 3>so busy at the moment. Oh what are you got

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 3>going on?

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Look, A life has been hectic, a lot of personal stuff.

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't really want to get into it.

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just I totally get it, and I agree

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 1>with you. It's like you don't you don't know anyone anything.

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 1>We've done episodes on that before, But I get that

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you're in a position where it's it's hard to

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>make excuses totally.

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 3>But I think that's the problem.

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes we force ourselves to make excuses and

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 2>then we get caught in lies.

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 3>I think keep it.

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:27.800
<v Speaker 1>As simple, have kids, I'm not even married.

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 3>I then keep it as simple as you can.

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 2>When you do decline an invitation to something, you don't

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 2>have to explain the know all the time. And that's

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 2>where you can get yourself caught up because you're like, oh,

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I've run out of excuses, and it's like, well, you

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be having to say, oh, tomorrow, I've got dinner

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>with my mom, and on Tuesday, I'm going to get

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 2>my nails done, and on Wednesday I'm just going to

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 2>be really busy on the phone because the telemarket is

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 2>going to call me.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 3>You just don't have to give that level of detailed

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 3>do you know what I mean?

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 2>So I think if you consistently keep saying I'm sorry,

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't this week, I'm really busy. You know, I've

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 2>got a lot on with family stuff, or my friends

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 2>are in town, whatever you want to and keep a

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:06.280
<v Speaker 2>top line as possible, those invitations will start to decrease

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 2>and I think in time, they will get a picture

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:11.440
<v Speaker 2>that you know, not that you're not interested, but that

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you're not available. Your friendship is not available to them

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 2>because you're not someone who's worthy investing time in, because

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:17.880
<v Speaker 2>you're never free.

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 3>And that's okay. And I know you probably.

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Feel bad and it's probably an annoying thing because you

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 2>feel like or she hasn't she can't read the room.

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 2>But unfortunately it's it's just it's something that's uncomfortable, but

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 2>it's not something that's just avoidable.

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's hard because you've even said you don't

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>even want to be friends with her at work. Not

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>only do not have interest outside of work, but you

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:40.479
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be friends at work.

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 3>So maybe you need to put up a bit more

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:43.800
<v Speaker 3>of a vibe at work.

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 4>No, no, I think so you've got to put up

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 4>a vibe at work that like, we are not going

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 4>to be best here, so like we're not going to

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 4>have those laughs in those gossips, we're not because that's

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 4>what leads someone to wanting to hang out with you

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 4>after work.

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>So when you're at work, you're just going to work mode.

0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:00.959
<v Speaker 1>There's a difference with the energy you give people. If

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>you want to be their friend, and you don't want

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to be their friend. And this is a tricky situation

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 1>because you work with her all day. She wants to

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 1>hang out with you all the time. You don't want

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to hang out with her at all.

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel differently to you, Britt, And the reason for

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 2>that is is because I think you don't treat people

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 2>at all in a way where the vibe is like

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I just worry that that sort of recommendation changes the

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 2>culture in a workplace, Like you don't want her to

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 2>think that she's done something wrong.

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 3>You don't want her to think that you're angry at her.

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>But there's a difference with a work vibe and a

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>friend vibe one hundred percent. Like friends that are like base,

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>let's go grab a coffee at lunch, Let's go get

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>a coffee and have a gossip and have a laugh

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 1>and have a chat. And there's a very big difference

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 1>with that and like, hey guys, I'm just gonna go

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>take my lunch break.

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I'll come back.

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.919
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the kind of thing I mean that you

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:43.919
<v Speaker 1>you don't treat it differently, Like you don't be mean

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 1>to her, but you put out different energy when you

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>want to be friends with someone, and you see someone

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 1>as a work colleague, and I'm even thinking of people

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you know in our work environment.

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I think also it also depends on how chatty you

0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 2>are as a person, Like are you someone who shares

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of about your personal life at work?

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Are you sharing with her in a friend.

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Way that would give her the thought that maybe this

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 2>is a friendship, you know, because like maybe she's part

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 2>of like a group at work, and so you're all

0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>sharing different stories and stuff about yourself, and so she

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 2>feels as though there's a closeness there because it's been

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 2>manufactured through just spending a lot of time together and

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:20.879
<v Speaker 2>sharing a lot about each other. Whereas to you, you're like, oh,

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I would have told that to my hairdresser. That to

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 2>me didn't mean anything. I think like assessing how you

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 2>interact with her definitely when you say it in that way.

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 2>But I just think, like you don't need to give

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 2>off a vibe at work that's I don't want to

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 2>be your friend vibe because that could really affect your

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 2>ability to work together in a way that's like harmonious.

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, this is such a tough one.

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>There's just not really, it's not really an answer that's

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>like do this, say this.

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 2>My definitive answer is do not sit this person down

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>and tell them that you don't want to have a

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 2>friendship outside of work. We don't always need to communicate

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 2>our boundaries to people. It just makes you sound like

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 2>an absolute asshole. If you're like, hey, I really enjoy

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 2>working with you, but actually, like we are not people

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 2>who are going to be friends outside of work, you

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 2>will come across as such a dick.

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:07.879
<v Speaker 3>I think it is purely just a situation where you just.

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:11.879
<v Speaker 2>Politely decline her invitations and she will at some point

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 2>understand that this is a friendship that's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be beyond a work environment.

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:17.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know what you do? What quit?

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Get a new job, floring you get her fired? Okay,

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 1>last question, this is I think a good one for

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you to answer, Laura, Laurie. Laurie, I said it weird, Hey, Laurie,

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good one for you to answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura. It's a jewelry based question. Hashtag Tony May Tony

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:40.280
<v Speaker 3>May No, but twenty percent discount life on cut twenty

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 3>do I is that actually a discount? Otherwise you can

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 3>cut that out n people. I can whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, you want a discount on Tony May Life on

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>cut twenty, I'll put it up.

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't care a you paint for a spot jokes

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 3>do I? But am I everyone?

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 2>In case you won't aware, I own a jury business.

0:46:57.840 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 2>It's called Tony May and you can have a disc

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>our code of lifeblunk.

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:04.439
<v Speaker 3>What was the question?

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Last week, my husband asked me to pick up a

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>parcel for him from the post office and said it

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 1>was a tool for work. When I picked up the parcel,

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I noticed it was from a silversmith, so I obviously

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 1>googled them. I didn't look any further as Mother's Day

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 1>was approaching and I didn't want to ruin my big surprise.

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Now I didn't get any jewelry from Mother's Day. I

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:28.880
<v Speaker 1>looked on the website and I saw that it could

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>be fingerprint jewelry, but that's way out of our budget.

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned it to my best friend to see what

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 1>to do. After naming the jeweler, she said, hey, look,

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:40.839
<v Speaker 1>our mutual friend is mates with a jeweler. Maybe our

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>friend is going to propose and he's just using the

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>husband as an address for the secret delivery. You know,

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 1>how like people are like, oh, I don't want the

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 1>ring to come to my house.

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll send it to a friend.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>My three possible situations are one, my husband bought jewelry

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:56.439
<v Speaker 1>for someone else. Two fingerprint jewelry that will be back,

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.319
<v Speaker 1>hopefully in a few weeks. Three my husband is in

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>on our friends proposal and he is keeping this a secret.

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>My question is do I ask my husband about the

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.280
<v Speaker 1>parcel to see if he's buying jelry for someone else,

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:09.479
<v Speaker 1>or do I.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait and see if something is coming in the next

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 3>few months. And then she finished with clearly is bothering me?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so fingerprint jury. I have a few feelings about this. Firstly, yes,

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 2>you should just speak to your husband about it, because

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 2>if your thought is when you see a parcel that

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:30.399
<v Speaker 2>maybe your husband's buying jewelry for if your brain goes there,

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 2>that's a problem.

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 3>The right thing is like, who's this f You've also

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 3>been watching way too much of Love.

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Actually, it's probably like the first thing, like I would say,

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 2>speak to your husband, ask him the question.

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 3>You can be direct about it.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing with fingerprint jewely though, especially around Mother's Day

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:47.320
<v Speaker 2>and for anyone who's ever wanted or gotten a custom

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:51.399
<v Speaker 2>piece of jelry made jewelry labels who do anything that's

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 2>customizable during Mother's Day have such long lead times. So

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 2>it's very very possible that he has seen this maybe

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 2>two weeks or a week before Mother's Day and like,

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, that's a great idea.

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I'll organize that.

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:05.360
<v Speaker 2>But you've got to actually put your fingerprints in the wax,

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 2>send the wax off. That's then got to go through

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 2>the lost wax casting method, that's got to be set

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 2>in the silver, and like, it's a process, and most

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 2>jewelers take more than six weeks to do that process.

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 3>And it's probably assuming your husband didn't realize how long

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 3>it could.

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<v Speaker 2>Take totally so this was like mother Day, it was

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 2>only a couple weeks ago. There is a very very

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 2>very good chance that it is for you, and it's

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 2>just the process of this is actually like two months

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and he was not organized enough, which I think is

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 2>totally fair. The reason why I don't think your husband's

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 2>having an affair. I don't think it's for someone else

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:38.319
<v Speaker 2>is because if it was, if it was if he

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 2>was doing the dirty, if he bought someone a really

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 2>expensive piece of jely and didn't want you to know

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 2>about it.

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 3>He's not getting you to pick it up.

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 2>He's not getting you to go to the post office

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 2>to pick up the piece of jewelry. He's this is

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<v Speaker 2>so innocent to him that he didn't think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal.

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, then also pretty shit surprised.

0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Then, in the same thing, like, if he's gotten your surprise,

0:49:57.640 --> 0:49:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you also shouldn't.

0:49:58.400 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Be going to get your wife to go pick up

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 3>her own surprise.

0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's a whole other thing. If this was me,

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would my very first point of care

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 2>would be to sit down and ask my husband. Maybe

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 2>he is on a secret proposal for his friend. That's

0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 2>totally fine. You're you're his wife, and you're allowed to

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 2>know that. You're allowed to be in on those secrets too.

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gone bullshit on that one.

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 2>But I just think I always find it so fascinating

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 2>because I think, for me, when I read that question,

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 2>it's actually not so much about jewelry, it's around communication

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 2>and what's your communication like with your husband? Why do

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you not feel as though you can go to him

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 2>straight away when you have these sorts of like queries

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 2>or questions or things that make you feel a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit unsafe or uncertain.

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.319
<v Speaker 1>And I get that because if she thinks it could

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>be really a surprise, you don't want to blow the surprise,

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 1>like you don't want your husband to know that the

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 1>surprise is ruined.

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 2>But I think the surprise so like she didn't she

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 2>waited for Mother's Day, it didn't come. So yes, you

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 2>don't want to blow the surprise. But if it's leading

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 2>your brain to a place where maybe you're thinking that

0:50:56.920 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 2>he's doing something for someone else, like that is so

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 2>far on the other end of the spectrum that like

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the fact that your brain has gone there makes me think, like,

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you have to have these conversations.

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I think. Here's your husband, right, let's give

0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:11.839
<v Speaker 1>him the benefit of the doubt. He has gone and

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>done an amazing surprise for you.

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 3>You have you.

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Deserve that you have multiple fingerprint jewelry that is probably

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 1>going to be in the mail. What I would do

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:24.920
<v Speaker 1>is ask, you know what, Okay, put your detective hat on.

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Call the jeweler, inquire, ask hey, how long out of

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:31.960
<v Speaker 1>curiosity does it take generally speaking for a fingerprint jewelry.

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:35.520
<v Speaker 1>He'll say, oh, probably like four to six weeks. Whatever,

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 1>do the math, sit it out, wait another four weeks,

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and if eight weeks has gone past from Mother's Day

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:47.240
<v Speaker 1>and you haven't got any jewelry at all from that jeweler,

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:50.440
<v Speaker 1>then ask the question.

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Spoiler, it's probably gone to someone else.

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I would then ask the question, because then you've given

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>enough buffer, you've given enough lead time, and then he's

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:00.360
<v Speaker 1>your husband.

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:02.759
<v Speaker 2>My only worry is that I love that we keep

0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:04.320
<v Speaker 2>outlining this as though she's forgotten.

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:07.280
<v Speaker 3>But it's so important because we said it earlier.

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:09.960
<v Speaker 1>But if your first thought here is that, like, holy shit,

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:12.799
<v Speaker 1>he's bought jeury for someone else, there's got to be

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 1>more happening in that relationship. Like it's not your first

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:18.920
<v Speaker 1>thought when you see a jewelry box from your partner

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:20.839
<v Speaker 1>that it's going to someone else, unless there are other

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>things that are like leaning into that.

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Also, wait, I just want to unpack this one bit,

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:27.480
<v Speaker 2>because you said these are we're exact words. After naming

0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 2>the jeweler, she said, our mutual friend is mates with

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the jeweler, so maybe our friend is going to propose.

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:35.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, this is just too many degrees of separation.

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:38.840
<v Speaker 1>If your friend is mates with the jeweler, you just

0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 1>keep the ring of the jewelers.

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Then wouldn't the jeweler just keep the ring to your friends?

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 3>Why is the jeweler sending it to your house. It's

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:49.919
<v Speaker 3>so obvious, like cheating. He's not cheating. Shut up.

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 1>It's so obvious that it's for you and just fingerprint

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Julie takes a fucking long time to make.

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:56.760
<v Speaker 3>It's actually yeah.

0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:59.399
<v Speaker 1>But if Christmas comes and you haven't got your jewelry yet,

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the question.

0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:04.120
<v Speaker 2>But I do I think people, especially when it comes

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:08.360
<v Speaker 2>to customized anything customized in the jewelry space, it takes

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 2>so long. Listen to this men, Yeah, I miss in

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 2>case free times. But I honestly can't tell you the

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 2>amount of people, the amount of men who have come

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 2>to Tony May emailed me and been like, Hey, I

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 2>really want to propose to my wife. I'm going away

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:24.800
<v Speaker 2>on this trip. We're going to Europe next week. I

0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:26.319
<v Speaker 2>need to get a ring. And I'm like great, and

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:28.640
<v Speaker 2>they're like, they want this ring, they want this stone,

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blahs.

0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:30.800
<v Speaker 3>It's totally a custom piece.

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, amazing, when are you thinking of proposing

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:38.840
<v Speaker 2>in ten days? And I'm like, mate, are you fucking

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.280
<v Speaker 2>kidding me? You need to buy something off the shelf.

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 2>There is no jeweler who's going to make you a

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.080
<v Speaker 2>ring in ten days. And if they can make you

0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 2>a ring in ten days, they don't have any customers.

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be buying a ring from them.

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Or you're paying bank they are, yeah, you're paying twice

0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 1>as much as you should.

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 2>But I honestly like it happens all the time, and

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's all men. Some men are so organized,

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 2>they are so meticulous. They have photos and they have measurements,

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:05.279
<v Speaker 2>and they have like all of the qualities of the

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 2>diamonds figured out.

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Like some men do the detailed work.

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 2>And some guys are like, oh, I wanted to get

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:11.680
<v Speaker 2>this thing made in four days and I want to

0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 2>pay four hundred bucks for it. Yeah, I want this

0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 2>ring And I'm like that ring is nine thousand dollars

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:18.120
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, I'm like, what's your budget And they're like, oh,

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 2>it's eight hundred bucks. And I'm like, how did you

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 2>think that was going to happen? How did you I'm

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 2>not joking guys being a jewelers wid I think.

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:26.319
<v Speaker 3>That's going to be Ben.

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Ben understands the process, but also at

0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:30.839
<v Speaker 1>this point buy it.

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:34.879
<v Speaker 3>Off the shelf. Also, I don't care.

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.160
<v Speaker 1>No, then you also know who you can come to. Yeah,

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:38.839
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. Brittany has a friend who's a joy.

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I think of Jay like my sister's partner. We spoke

0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:44.320
<v Speaker 1>about the start. He was so the opposite end of

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the spectrum.

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:46.400
<v Speaker 3>It was meticulous. He was so organized.

0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:48.600
<v Speaker 1>He got it from a jeweler that he knew Sheridan

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 1>had liked over the years she was in Europe. He

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:53.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't think about the importation tax that was on him,

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 1>but he designed it like months and months and months

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and months and months ahead.

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Sherry, on the other hand, was less organized.

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 2>So Sherry got because Jay's Indian and Indian culture the

0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:04.960
<v Speaker 2>men wear a bracelet, right, it's a silver Bracelet's a

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 2>cuff that goes on to the wrist and once it's

0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 2>on has to be quite tight and then it doesn't

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 2>get taken off. So not too long before the wedding,

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Sherry contacted me and was like, I'd like to get

0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:15.919
<v Speaker 2>this cuff made for Jay, and I was like, totally fine,

0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:16.880
<v Speaker 2>we can get it done.

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Got it done, and it was too small because she

0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:22.440
<v Speaker 1>took the measurements wrong. It didn't even go over his knuckles.

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 1>So we had to do the most speaking of like

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:26.799
<v Speaker 1>the most rush job to get it done.

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Again, you're doing for.

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:31.759
<v Speaker 1>The general public totally. And this is not me telling

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:34.319
<v Speaker 1>you guys. We can rush things, but we don't like

0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to because there's an order to it. There's people in line.

0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one hundreds. And you also correct me if I'm wrong.

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:40.759
<v Speaker 3>Did you make Surey's wedding band?

0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And I made Cherry's wedding band.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like I know, it's all of the family. Sweet. Anyway,

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:49.880
<v Speaker 3>this is a lot of Sherry in this. We love Sherry.

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<v Speaker 3>We're so happy she's having a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, just go and speak to your husband, guys. Just

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes these questions come in and my answer is communicate

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<v Speaker 2>with your partner, speak to them and listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what about this though? Now, I think that he's

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<v Speaker 1>very dedicated husband. I don't think's cheating. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>loves you hypothetically.

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<v Speaker 3>He's cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>He's cheating hypothetically, And I'm just I'm just like being

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<v Speaker 1>a detective here. If you go and say to him,

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<v Speaker 1>which you're entitled to, Hey, baby, I've got a confession.

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:22.160
<v Speaker 1>When I picked up that package for you. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally that it was from the jewelers. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted you to know, like, obviously I'm gonna love

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. If you say that to him, he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go and he's cheating on you. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the jeweler and buy something really quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and then put it in the mail and say it

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<v Speaker 1>arrived a couple of days later. Like, if you've given

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<v Speaker 1>him the information that he needs to cover his cheating tracks,

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:42.279
<v Speaker 1>he's going to Well that's what i'd do if I

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.400
<v Speaker 1>was cheating anyway. If my partner came to me and

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<v Speaker 1>said I saw the package, he'd be like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you've ruined it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he'd get on the blower to his mate

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<v Speaker 3>that's the jeweler, and he'd be like, I need So

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<v Speaker 3>what do you think she does? I think you wait

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<v Speaker 3>the time period I would this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is give it a buffer, though, Give it a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of extra weeks just in case, so you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure that there is nothing coming from that jeweler. Like

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<v Speaker 1>when that time period is gone. No, it's not much trapman,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you've waited two three months, you've seen the box.

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<v Speaker 3>You've seen it. Yeah, you know that there is something

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<v Speaker 3>from a jeweler.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't get it in three months, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>proposing because you're already married. There's jewelry somewhere for someone.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think if you've waited long enough, there's no

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 1>way I'd be sitting on that information because it'll eat

0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you alive. Then you go to him and say, hey, confession.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of months ago, I saw I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>there was a Jey package, and I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what's up, Like, what was that CD that she

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 1>got on Love? Actually, Norah Jones or what's her name?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't know, Joonie Mitchell. That's it.

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 2>She gets given a Yeah on Love Actually, she gets

0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 2>given a Joni Mitchell CD.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what's so offensive about that? You'll no

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 3>tell me. I'll tell you if she's actually because.

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:52.520
<v Speaker 2>She's like it was her favorite artist, and he's like,

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I know that you love JOHNI Mitchell's your favorite artist. Well,

0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:57.640
<v Speaker 2>if he knew that and Jonnie Mitchell really was her

0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 2>favorite artist, she'd already had that CD. That's why that's

0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 2>even more offensive. You're having an affair and you're giving

0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:04.400
<v Speaker 2>me something I already.

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<v Speaker 1>Have can I tell you a funny story and I

0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>can laugh about this now.

0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 3>So my Psycho X that I was with for two

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<v Speaker 3>years had the double life that.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of you we speak about him a lot, Yeah,

0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:14.880
<v Speaker 1>most of you know about If you don't, I had

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 1>a Psycho X that had a double life.

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:18.440
<v Speaker 2>So wish the sluthors. I mean, they can find Jordan

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 2>with his sock tantrily.

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:21.000
<v Speaker 3>They can find this guy. Come on.

0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:23.920
<v Speaker 1>He was overseas at the time, right for a work thing,

0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and he was going through a really rough time, just

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<v Speaker 1>like it was pull BI me.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to be the super romantic that I am

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<v Speaker 1>and I sent him This cost me hundreds of dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent him this ginormous box of a hundred strawberries

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<v Speaker 1>and berries that were beautifully dipped in different colored chocolates

0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:45.560
<v Speaker 1>than they had nuts, and then they had you know,

0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you know that over the top.

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It wasn't necessary, yeah, but it was beautiful.

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 1>And I sent him a really nice card, one of

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 1>those things just to be like, I'm thinking of you,

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I love you, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So I found this out later.

0:58:57.280 --> 0:59:00.240
<v Speaker 1>The delivery knocked on the door and he opened the

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:02.440
<v Speaker 1>door and he saw this giant box of one hundred

0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 1>beautiful strawberries. And I don't know how he thought so quickly,

0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 1>how he acted so quickly. He just obviously thought it

0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:11.200
<v Speaker 1>was from me, slid the card off, put it in

0:59:11.200 --> 0:59:15.560
<v Speaker 1>his pocket, turned around to his other partner that happened

0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:17.440
<v Speaker 1>to be there that I didn't know, looked at her

0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and went surprise, and gave it to her.

0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:22.280
<v Speaker 3>He gave her what I sent him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know this because she told me, like, when

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.280
<v Speaker 1>it all came out that he'd been cheating, we were

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 1>like putting all this stuff together, and she said, hang on,

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:32.920
<v Speaker 1>did you ever send him one hundred covered strawberries?

0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 3>I was like, to America, and she was like yes,

0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, yes I did.

0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 1>She's like, oh my gosh. She's like I was in

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the apartment when they arrived. She's like, I knew he

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 1>would never have done that. He pretended that he fucking

0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 1>bought them for her. So she the other woman eight

0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of dollars of my gift.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny. Imagine imagine if it was fingerprint jewelry. Yeah,

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:55.919
<v Speaker 3>but then you could do the test thing singer print

0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:56.560
<v Speaker 3>was anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, mate, we've lived a life we said, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not experts, but we have had some experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Had that all right, Well, guys, that is it from us.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a question for ask Gunkut, slide into

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<v Speaker 2>the DMS, send it into us, and hopefully we can

1:00:10.680 --> 1:00:13.080
<v Speaker 2>answer it on next week's episode. Keep them spicy, keep

1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:15.360
<v Speaker 2>them light, keep them to whatever we don't care, and

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<v Speaker 2>keep them coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to start keeping these shorter, because no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not. Every time I look down, I'm like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half. Stop lying, all right, don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget to you mum, tell dadte dog toy friends, and

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<v Speaker 1>share the love because we are love