1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Oh, we know that the Northern Territory Police said they'd 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: last night surge forty additional officers into Alice Springs to 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: support local police to address the crime and antisocial behavior 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: issue in the town. The move followed the latest incident 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, which saw two stolen cars driving dangerously 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: around the CBD. The Police Commissioner, Jamie Chalker came out 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: to make this announcement yesterday and confirm that one of 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: those stolen cars attempted to ram a police vehicle which 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: was forced to take evasive action to avoid a collision. 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: As we all know, this is the third incident of 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: this type involving stolen vehicles in Alice Springs in the 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: past fortnight. Now joining me on the line is the 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: Independent Member Farra Lun Robin Lamley. 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Robin. 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie Robin. 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: The move to bring forty additional police to Alice it 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: does follow calls yesterday for the AFP to step in 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: to assist from some people. Are these forty officers going 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: to be enough to quell the issues being experienced at 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: the moment, Well. 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: Katie, I think what we're seeing on the streets of 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: Alice Springs is a profound, if not complete, disintegration of 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: law and order. So to put forty eight to forty 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: five police extra police on the streets of Alice Springs 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: for a few weeks is not going to make a 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: massive difference. Might make a little bit of a difference. 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: I was pleased to hear that the government has finally 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: come to the conclusion that they have to do something more. 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: That was a good signal. But you're talking about years 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: of neglect by the government in terms of responding to 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: the disintegration of law and order in Alice Springs. So 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: this a reaction is not going to be enough to 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: turn it around. And that's what people need. We need 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: a long term plan. 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Katie Robin, do you think that what the government's announced 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: so far in terms of the Social Order Response Team 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: and you know, trying to find locations to get young 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: peer people off the street and somewhere safe at night, 39 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: amongst some other parental responsibility plans and that type of thing, 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: do you think that that goes far enough? 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: Well, it could, but don't forget, Katie, They've been talking 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: about identifying children on the streets of Alice Springs at 43 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: night as child protection cases for probably two months now, 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 3: and we're still hearing that they're planning at that they're 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: trying to work it out. If anyone else was in government, 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: with a little bit more motivation and energy, you could 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: introduce those sort of initiatives tonight. The legislation is there, 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: it's a child protection initiative. Everything's in place to make 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 3: that happen immediately. If they're looking for somewhere to put 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: the kids, there are places now today that they could 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: use temporarily. Still getting the run around, Katie. If it 52 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: was happening in Darwin, you would get a totally different response. 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: But down in Alice Springs, wah wah, wah. I'm sure 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: people listening here she goes again, but it is different 55 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: how we are treated down there. We get a lot 56 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: of talk and very little action. And now it's apparently 57 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 3: up to the police to come in and try and 58 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: fix this problem that has been festering and deteriorating for 59 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: a very very long time. And it's probably very unfair 60 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: on the police to have to do that. I know 61 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: it's their job, but what are they meant to do Differently? 62 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: There are no extra. 63 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: Tools that the government's given them. There's no change in 64 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: policy or direction. Just putting more police on the streets 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: will help temporarily, because they're only going to be temporarily there. 66 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: The extra police. It's not turning the ship around. And 67 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: don't forget we're not even in summer yet. Summer's next week. 68 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: Things tend to to tear even more as summer goes on. 69 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: So you're talking about those very long hot months of January, 70 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: February and even into March in Alice Springs in which 71 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: it's been indicated that these extra police won't be around 72 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: for So it's good to hear that the government's been 73 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: forced into doing something, but we need a bigger and 74 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: better plan. 75 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: Robin, yesterday in Parliament you put a question to the 76 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: Chief Minister which you'd received from a young mum in 77 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: Alice Springs. 78 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: Can you tell me about that? 79 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: So this young woman texted me. I don't know who 80 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: she is. I'll find out when I go home, but 81 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: she texted me saying that she has a five day 82 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: old baby and she's anxious and worried that people will 83 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: get killed in Alice Springs with the dangers driving and 84 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: anti social behavior. So I read that the text message 85 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 3: she sent to me directly to the Chief Minister ask 86 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: her to respond, and she immediately went on to tell 87 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: us how she's putting an extra forty police on the 88 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: streets of Alice Springs from last night. You know, different reaction. 89 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: Do you reckon that question? You know from a young 90 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: mum to you. 91 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: Do you think that reflects how the community is feeling 92 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: at the moment. You know that you've got somebody who's 93 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: obviously at home with their baby and they are worried 94 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: about their safety. 95 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: Definitely, Katie, and this young woman's not alone, but I 96 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: thought she captured it really well. She's just probably you know, 97 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: after having a baby, you're feeling extremely vulnerable anyway, life 98 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: has changed and you've gone through a real raal manager experience. 99 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: She is worried about her safety and the safety of 100 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: the community and the safety of her baby. And I 101 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 3: just thought I would have got a slightly different response 102 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: from the Chief Minister to that question, but she rolled 103 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: out the usual any crime is too much and we're 104 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: putting more police on the ground. But what I really 105 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: wanted to hear from the Chief Minister was what those 106 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: police will be doing that's different to what we're seeing 107 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: now and a bit more of a commitment to taking 108 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: a crisis response to what has been a seriously escalating 109 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: crisis in Central Australia for years. 110 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: It's look, you know, I can't believe the way that 111 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, the way that some of these young people 112 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: or people in Alice Springs are behaving at the moment. 113 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: I mean, we saw it in Catherine as well. 114 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't know why it's so surprising to me, because 115 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: I guess we've seen some of this behavior escalating over time. 116 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: But to see a situation where you've got cars being 117 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: driven through the streets, stolen vehicles at police cars, it 118 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: is really shocking stuff. And I just hope that we 119 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: don't get to the point where we are desensitized to 120 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: just how shocking it is. 121 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: I don't think we've got to that point yet in 122 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: Alice Springs because it seems to get worse every day 123 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 3: and every week. But can I just go back to 124 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: the fact that a few months ago the Northern Territory 125 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: Labor government turned on the grog to four hundred communities, 126 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: outstations and tan camps across the Northern Territory. Now the 127 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: police are saying that that has had a profound impact 128 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: on the community. They are saying that they anecdotally are 129 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: seeing an increase in alcohol consumption, a staggering increase in 130 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: domestic violence, and in increasing kids on the street that 131 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: are being abused and neglected. Now, this is what the 132 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: Northern Territory government need to take ownership of. They have 133 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: created an almighty social problem that is completely out of control. 134 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: They are not taking responsibility for it. They have done 135 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: things over the sixth years there've been in government that 136 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: are almost irreversible. So for them to throw forty extra 137 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: police on the streets of Vala Springs for two three 138 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: four weeks at the most and think that that's the solution, 139 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: they are completely deluded. Katie. We need we need help. 140 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: We need outside help, whether it's from the army or 141 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: the armed forces, or whether it's like how the government 142 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: sought a budget repair paper from someone externally. We need 143 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: a law and order repair strategy for the whole of 144 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: the Northern Territory because I can assure you things are 145 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: going to get worse. You increase the age of criminal 146 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 3: responsibility and you can guarantee things are going to get worse. 147 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: So Robin, you are calling on the Northern Territory government. 148 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: You're calling for a law and Order Repair strategy for 149 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. Look, I actually think that you're going 150 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: to get quite a bit of support from the community 151 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: on this, not only in Alice Springs, but I reckon 152 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: right across the board. 153 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: People have had enough. 154 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: Well if they can do it for the budget. They're 155 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 3: in government for less than two years and they sought 156 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: the assistance of Lango Land, a Western Australia former treasury 157 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: executive who came in and did a paper giving them 158 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: a roadmap of how to get out of the budgetary 159 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: problems that they created for themselves within the first two 160 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: years of being in government. They need to do the 161 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: same for Laura and Order. We need a road map 162 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: of how are we going to get out of this 163 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: terrible position that they've put every single Territori and in 164 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: and for people in Darwin who are listening this morning, 165 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: you can be assured that it's coming your way. It's 166 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: bad in Alice Springs, it's terrible in Alice Springs. It's 167 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: getting worse up here, and I can guarantee you will 168 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 3: get worse right across the Northern Territory because this government 169 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: has no idea how to pull it into line. We 170 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 3: need help. 171 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: They need help, Robin, what kind of personal who do 172 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: you think could conduct such a repair strategy. 173 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: Look, there's places all around the world that have gone 174 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: through dire times when it comes to law and order. 175 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying we need to go as 176 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: far as New York, but remember New York used to 177 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: be a place where you couldn't even step out onto 178 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: the street without having a gun pointed at you. They 179 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: turned it around. There are people right across the globe 180 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: that have the expertise and the experience to help us. 181 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: I know it's peculiar to Australia that we have, you know, 182 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: a sadly disadvantaged population, mainly Aboriginal people that seem to, 183 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: despite all the best intentions, seem to get less and 184 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: less in terms of a voice and recognition. And the 185 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: fact that you know, the policies like turning on the 186 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: grove throughout extensive parts of the territory that were dry 187 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: for fifteen years, I mean, what the hell was that about. 188 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: You know that things like that just lead to more 189 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 3: and more misery and heartache, devastation and more generational disadvantage. 190 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: Yet this government seems to think it's everyone else's fault. Barbears. 191 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 3: They've been in government for more than six years. They've 192 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 3: been in government, Labor's been in government for about seventeen 193 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: out of the last twenty years, and yet they still 194 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: point the finger at the Coorp and everyone else who's 195 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: around the place. They need to step up and take 196 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: ownership and work out a plan for how we're going 197 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: to get out of this, because, as I said, I 198 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: am very pessimistic about the future. I think things are 199 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 3: going to get a whole lot worse before they get better. 200 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: And under this government, I hear nothing that makes me 201 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: feel any ounce of optimism or hope that they even 202 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: understand just how severe the problem is in places like 203 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: Alice Fren's. 204 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Robin Landley, we always appreciate your time. Thank you very 205 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: much for joining us on the show this morning. 206 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: My Pleasure Kating, Thank you. That is the Independent member 207 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: for Aura Lund there. 208 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: We're going to take a really short break and when 209 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: we come back, well we are going to be speaking 210 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: to the manager of the Berkley Homestead. 211 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: But keen to hear from you this morning. What do 212 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: you think of this call from Robin Lamley? 213 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: The Independent member Farara lun just said that there needs 214 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: to be a law and order. 215 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: Repair strategy for the Northern Territory. 216 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: Send us a message zero four double nine seven double 217 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: one three six zero Like you. 218 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 5: The team from Mixed one at Full nine are proud 219 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 5: of where we live and we love getting out and 220 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 5: about on the streets at the top end as often. 221 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: As we can get a It'sandra and Sarah. We are 222 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: getting out the office on Friday. We love doing that. 223 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 5: Oh we do. 224 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: We're going shopping. You're paying, No, you're not. Gague Na Square. 225 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: It's the Black Friday super Event. 226 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 6: Honestly, it is three days nothing but sales and fun. 227 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: And games, including food. 228 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 6: Yes, there's going to be lots of food activations where 229 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 6: you can come down and try things for free. They're 230 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 6: going to have pop up stores for those healthy nuts, 231 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 6: complimentary nails and bay shows up what I'm actually never 232 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 6: going to leave. 233 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: We'll see you on Friday from three o'clock. 234 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 6: The more shopping to be done as part of the 235 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 6: Black Friday Sale at Caterina Square. 236 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 5: See that the NT's bed music and events are only 237 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 5: with Mixed one O four nine. 238 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 7: It's Big Friday at Harvey Norman Darwin. It only happens 239 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 7: once a year. Deals to hot top broadcast on radio. 240 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 7: Deal so big there open aight am to light pm Friday, 241 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 7: Hulbing Dorman, Darwin's Big Friday. 242 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: It only happens once a year. We just can't be beaten. 243 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: Flynn's Palmerston is turning one. 244 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 8: Join us this Saturday for a Dragshaw spectacular like no other. 245 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: It's going to be a little naughty and a whole 246 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: lot of nice. What free entry all night? Hold up? 247 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: This all sounds great? But where is it? Flynn's Palmerston. 248 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 2: It used to be the hub. 249 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 9: Oh, Flynn's Palmerston. 250 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 2: O mother could. 251 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 9: The biggest shopping ebb is about to land. 252 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: At Casuarina Square. 253 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 9: There's over one hundred and forty Black Friday sales. Try 254 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 9: food and drink sampling, beauty bars and kids activities, Spin 255 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 9: the Edge, health clubs, Wheel of Fortune, Get free I 256 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 9: screen from Baskin Robins and watch a live cooking demo 257 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 9: as part of the Laxa Festival. Spend one hundred dollars 258 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 9: or more in sharing, twa thousand dollars in kit cards. 259 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 9: Visit hashtag cas Christmas Village for photos with Santa, and 260 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 9: catch a free train ride Tason Caesar, Fla Casherina Squares, 261 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 9: Black Friday Shopping Festival These Friday and all weekend. 262 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 10: Don't just get a four cliff, get. 263 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 11: A life in the Northern Territory is tough on forkliffs, 264 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 11: so it pays to buy or higher from local people 265 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 11: with local knowledge. 266 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 12: Toyota Material Handling DARWA. 267 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 11: Get legendary Toyota reliability, get world leading safety, Get the 268 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 11: Toyota Forklift advantage for sales service and higher call eight 269 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 11: nine three one six four double zero all Toyota Material 270 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 11: Handling dot com dot au. 271 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 10: So well, listeners, It's Thursday and you know what that means. No, 272 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 10: don't stop. That's tomorrow night. You guys know that Friday 273 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 10: is crock feeding night. Thursday night is oyster night. 274 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 13: Oysters. 275 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: I don't like oysters, tick. 276 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 10: Crunch, you have to take them out of their shelves. 277 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 10: Soft Crac, I don't have finger Well, you heard it, 278 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 10: soft Croc doesn't have fingers. And Thursday night is oyster 279 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 10: night at the Bury Springs tavern. 280 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 13: Hi, I'm Bend, the service manager of Darwin Masda. In 281 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 13: a crowded marketplace, it plays to stand out. At Darwin Masda, 282 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 13: we focus on just one brand, Mazda. This enables us 283 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 13: to provide exceptional customer service through a sales experience and 284 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 13: most importantly, if you after sales journey, we have a 285 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 13: premium product, exceptional staff, a state of the art facility 286 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 13: which makes up a Darwin Master Difference Darwin Masda. 287 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 6: How many experience the difference LVDA one zero one seven. 288 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 12: It's the Black Friday sale at forty Winks. Buy online 289 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 12: and say fifty percent on mattresses and thirty percent on 290 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 12: bedroom furniture. Exclusions and decencies apply, or head in store 291 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 12: to find your perfect mattress, but hurry n Cyber Monday, 292 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 12: forty Winks serious about sleep. 293 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 5: Hello Katie Wolf and three point sixty online at mixed 294 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: one O four nine dot com. 295 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: You well, as we know, a devastating fire which occurred 296 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: earlier this week has caused significant damage to the iconic 297 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Barkley Homestead Roadhouse. And joining me on the line to 298 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: tell us more about the situation is the manager Ryan Brennan. 299 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Ryan, Good morning Ryan. Tell me 300 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: what happened with this fire or what you know so far? 301 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 14: All I know so far as that it was an 302 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 14: electrical fire caused by a freezer model. Oh the weight 303 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 14: assessors today. 304 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and mate, talk us through the damage and you 305 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: know how far it spreads. 306 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 14: There's a lot of damage indication itself where it started 307 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 14: and its spread up into the into the roof a 308 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 14: little bit. However, there is smoke damage all throughout. 309 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: It must have been a terrible situation for you guys 310 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: when you you know, when you'd realize that that. 311 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: Fire had begun and trying to put it out and everything. 312 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, that's right. 313 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: But can you tell us how you know it? 314 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: What's the process now in terms of working through just 315 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: how extensive that damage isn't and reopening? 316 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 14: Well, yeah, so we've just got to wait for the 317 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 14: affessors and they come today. Yeah, and then once they 318 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 14: do their things, we'll we'll know whether or not we 319 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 14: can start start working sil on cleaning it out. 320 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 7: Yeah. 321 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: And there had been some reports that, you know that 322 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: the damage is so extensive that you may not be 323 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: able to reopen, but is that actually the case? 324 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 14: No, that's incorrect, And so talk. 325 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Us through the situation, Like once the assessors come through, 326 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: I guess you'll have a better idea of where the 327 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: damage is and what may be able to reopen and 328 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: just how quickly. 329 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 14: Yeah. So there will be electrical damage in the roof. 330 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 14: So once the assesses come through, it's been up to 331 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 14: a sparky to come out and a couple of trusses 332 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 14: in the roof and to be replaced. We shouldn't be 333 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 14: too long. The hardest part will be to clean up inside. 334 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it'll be all hands on deck, I'm assuming 335 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: as well. 336 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 14: Yes it will, Yes, it will be. 337 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: Mate. 338 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: Tell me how the fuel bowsers, because I guess that's 339 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: the concern too for a lot of people. 340 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: You know, they will. 341 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: Be traveling from from Mount Isa into the Northern Territory 342 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: and their regular stop would be the Barkley Homestead to 343 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: fill up, have a nice feed and get a bit 344 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: of hospitality. How those fuel bowsers and what impact is 345 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: that having? 346 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 14: Yeah, so because there's no power to the roadhouses, no 347 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 14: power to the bousers out the front. There are signs 348 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 14: came a wheel and three ways just advising people that 349 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 14: there's no shill. It is affecting people in a great way. 350 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: I suppose. Yeah, And it's tough though no fault of 351 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: your own, Like, it's just one of those situations that 352 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: it's so unfortunate and something you've got no control over. 353 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: And now you're obviously going to have to work through 354 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: reopening and being able to get things back up and running. Yeah, mate, 355 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: tell me how challenging or do you anticipate that it's 356 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: going to be pretty challenging for those repairs because of 357 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: where you located, more. 358 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 14: Challenging than others. Freight's the hardest part of the moment. 359 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 14: And then we've got a sparky out call and a 360 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 14: couple of builders on site so that aspect will be fine, 361 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 14: and the clean up with all the staff because currently 362 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 14: they can't work at normal jobs. 363 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 364 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: Look, I'm sure that they're all hoping as well. Once 365 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: those successors get in that you can all get stuck 366 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: into it. For anybody not familiar with the area, how 367 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: far are the fuel stops either side? 368 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 14: Color Wheel is two hundred and sixty kilometers to the 369 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 14: east and then three Ways is one hundred and nine 370 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 14: eight kilometers. Were in a pretty vital spot, you. 371 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: Really are, and it's a great spot. 372 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: People love the hospitality there at the Berkley Homestead, don't they? 373 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 374 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 2: What do you reckon? Set? You guys? Apart from everybody else, 375 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: I don't. 376 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 14: Really know the answer to that question. I guess for 377 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 14: mister Barkley has said, you know, the first and last 378 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 14: club this side of the Queensland border. 379 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: It is such an iconic spot. 380 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I've traveled that road plenty of times, 381 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: mostly with my brothers, traveling from Mount Isa to the 382 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: Northern Territory. Well before I live to you and when 383 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: I'd heard what had happened, I just I really felt for. 384 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: You, guys. 385 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: I thought, what a difficult situation that you're in and 386 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: you're such a pivotal location for so many people. 387 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 14: Yes, yeah, yeah, thank you for that. 388 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, mate, is there anything else that you reckon? Travelers 389 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: need to be aware of. Just if there is anybody 390 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: in Darwin right now that's planning on traveling back to 391 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Queensland or vice versa and they're listening, anything you reckon 392 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: they need to be aware of. 393 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 14: Yeah, just light up on Field Gral a few jerry 394 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 14: cans and fill them up. The entire driveway into US 395 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 14: is locked offs as well, so there is, unfortunately for 396 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 14: the moment, no no access to that. 397 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we really appreciate you having a chat 398 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: with us this morning. Ryan Brennan, the manager of the 399 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 1: Berkley Homestead, all the best keeping contact. Let us know 400 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: how you go in terms of that assessment and getting 401 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: things reopened, and we'll make sure our listeners are aware. 402 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 4: Will do. 403 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, good on you, Ryan. Thanks mate. 404 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 2: We'll take a very quick break. When we came. I'm back. 405 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: We are going to be hearing from the member for 406 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: Solomon Luke Gosling and we know that well that things 407 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: are happening at the moment when it comes to the 408 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: territory rights bill, I understand that debate is underway. 409 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 5: The sideline view with Kenny and Andy. It's the home 410 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 5: of sports in the territory. 411 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: Those that are in that eighty five age category. 412 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 15: What is a competing in shotboard, hammer, javelin and discus. 413 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 15: We have a couple of ladies in the fifteen hundred 414 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 15: meters walk. 415 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 10: We still have some people in their. 416 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 15: Late sixties doing high jump. I'm a lady in eighties 417 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 15: doing triple jumps. 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Spend one hundred 446 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 9: dollars or more in sharing, tight thousand dollars in kit cards. 447 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 9: Visit hashtag cas Christmas Village for photos with Santa and 448 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 9: catch a free train ride. Teason Season play Casherina Squares. 449 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 9: Black Friday Shopping Festival these Friday and all weekend. 450 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 16: Black Friday is the final day of Faumont's Aussie Made 451 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 16: floor Tile event. Twenty percent of all Ossie made floor 452 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 16: tiles and specials from a Crazy seventeen ninety five and 453 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 16: up to twenty percent of hybrid flooring sale ends Black Friday, 454 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 16: five pm only at Fomont Tile. 455 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 17: Skin any local choice Mine now. For big deals on 456 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 17: all things electrical, get the dice In V eight origin 457 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 17: plus corpless stick back in for just four hundred and 458 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 17: seventy six bucks, the High Sense five hundred and nineteen 459 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 17: liters side by side for each for nine hundred and 460 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 17: ninety seven bucks, the Samsung seventy five inch Q sixty 461 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 17: QLED four case My TV for one thousand, six hundred 462 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 17: and forty five bucks, saven Massive eight hundred and fifty 463 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 17: or get the JBL Party Box on the Go portable 464 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 17: party speaker for just three hundred and ninety five bucks 465 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 17: saved one hundred ninety Get it your local choice mine. 466 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, Get swimming with Clark Rubbers. 467 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: Massive Black Friday Sale. 468 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 8: Take twenty percent off pools, Paul Toys, equipment, cleaners, and chemicals, 469 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 8: plus twenty percent of mattresses and mattress overlays on sale 470 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 8: this Friday until Sunday. Some exclusions apply. See the website 471 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 8: for details. Cloud Rubber Everything, Paul's Foam and Rubber. 472 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 2: Bobbycue season is warming up at sup. 473 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 7: And Save Hay. 474 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 11: I'm headed to Siven, Save Babe, get lights. 475 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: The whole gang's coming for the Bobbie. 476 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 477 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 11: I'm getting a Great Northern Original twenty four back and 478 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 11: a Great Northern Super Chris thirty back for fifty four 479 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 11: ninety nine. Age should Start a jim Bean White Label 480 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 11: bourbon and Canadian Club Whiskey seven hundred mil for forty 481 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 11: one ninety nine. Age Matter and jim Ban White Premix 482 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 11: four point eight percent, ten pack hands for thirty nine 483 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 11: to ninety nine. 484 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: Get Ice to the Fridge is chock full of meat, 485 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Bobby Time. 486 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: Head to SYPN, Saber, Benison Roadwinelley and shop your a 487 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: at Supinsave Dot com Todau. 488 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 5: If you want to know what's happening on the local 489 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 5: political landscape, Katie Wolf has it covered on three sixty 490 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 5: every one is listening Mix one oh four point nine. 491 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Well, it feels like it's been a very long time 492 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: that we've been discussing reinstating the territory rights when it 493 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: comes to voluntary assisted dying. But I understand that there 494 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: has certainly been some movement in the Federal Parliament today. 495 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: And joining me on the line is Labor's Luke Gosling, 496 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: the Member for Solomon. 497 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Luke, Morning Katie Luke. 498 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: What is the situation this morning with the territory Rights bill. 499 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: The debate has continued over in the Senate. Yeah, listeners 500 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 4: will remember that we've got to pass through the House 501 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: of Representatives where I sit a while back, and the 502 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: Senate debated that today. There was some funny voggas going 503 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 4: on with some of the senators from the opposition trying 504 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 4: to make some amendments, but I'm just trying to get 505 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 4: a read on those at the moment. Then Senator Price 506 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 4: was making some unassociated points having to go at the 507 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: NC government. But what we're all hoping is these things 508 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 4: aren't going to lay any further the vote, and it'll 509 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 4: be able to go ahead this time next week. 510 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 1: Right, So how likely is it that it's going to 511 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: pass before the year's end. If it's happening next week, 512 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm assuming pretty likely. 513 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll pretty much be the last opportunity, although they're 514 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 4: talking at the moment that we might be sitting Friday 515 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 4: and even Saturday. Yeah, which is fine. We will stay 516 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: here and keep working until we get it passed. But 517 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: I'm confident, Katie. There's some apart from some of the 518 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 4: amendments that some different senators are trying to put up 519 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 4: which seems like a bit of a delaying tactic to 520 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 4: try and to delay the vote. I think essentially the 521 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 4: majority of Senators have come to see that this is 522 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: about democratic rights of territory ends and that it will 523 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 4: get the numbers we need thirty eight to support it. 524 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 17: Yeah. 525 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 4: Obviously, despite what Senator just Enter Price from the COLP 526 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 4: has been saying in the debate today, despite that, I 527 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 4: hope that she supports the territory Rights Bill in the end. 528 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: Next So just talk us through if you can just 529 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: explain it to our listeners very simply. This morning exactly 530 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: what steps are still required to get this thing passed 531 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: and to make it happen before the end of the year, 532 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: so that then the Northern Territory Parliament obviously would have 533 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: to go through any process to you know, for this 534 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: to be able to happen in the Northern Territory. 535 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and some people might be new to the territory 536 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: and don't know the background. So very quickly twenty five 537 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 4: years ago the federal government at the time prevented. They 538 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: had what was called the Andrews Bill because it was 539 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: put forward by both by name of Kevin Andrews, who's 540 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 4: no longer in the parliament, but it stopped the Northern 541 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 4: Territories Ustenasia Bill that had passed the NT Parliament, so 542 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: it overrode it, as the Commonwealth can do to territory law. 543 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: Obviously we don't want that, we want territories not being 544 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: second class citizens. But it has taken twenty five years 545 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 4: for us to get to a position where there was 546 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 4: a government prepared to support the Northern Territory and the 547 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 4: act to put the vote, and it has been a 548 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: conscience vote. They vote passed the House of Representatives and 549 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: passed the House well, but of course, for federal legislation 550 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 4: to be enacted, it has to pass both the House 551 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: of Representatives and then goes to the Senate, where there's 552 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: states representatives and territory representatives. Unfortunately, we only have two 553 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: senators from the Northern Territory, and states such as Tasmania, 554 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 4: even though it only got double our population, have twelve 555 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 4: senators each. So that's unfair and something that we want 556 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 4: to change. But that's why Senator prices vote becomes really important, 557 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: right because you'd hope that you can count on all 558 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 4: the senators from the territory to be saying that territorians 559 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 4: having the same rights as people in the States is 560 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 4: what is right and proper. 561 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: So we'll know by Thursday next week. 562 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: Yes, it has been debated in the Senate, but obviously 563 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: if there's more senators from the opposition that want to 564 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 4: vote and have their say and sort of the Americans 565 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: call it a filibuster where you can stretch it out 566 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: so that the government then neither has to make a 567 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: decision whether to stop the debate and put it to 568 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: a vote or whether to let everyone speak and then 569 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 4: the Parliament or the Senate rather will just continue on 570 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 4: as long as it takes. We will stay here until 571 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 4: we've got territories. It's bill pass, that's what will be 572 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 4: doing next week. 573 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: Well, Luke, let's wait and see exactly what goes on. 574 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: I do hope that we get to the point where 575 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 1: the Northern territories realistically able to decide for ourselves. In 576 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: other news, so we know that the federal government has 577 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: locked in more affordable early education for about five thousand 578 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: local families in Darwen and Palmerston laws to deliver the 579 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: reforms past the Parliament earlier in the week. Luke, how 580 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: exactly are these additional places going to work? 581 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an additional funding for families with children in 582 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 4: early childhood education. It's fantastic that it's past is going 583 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 4: to mean for Yeah, five thousand local families in Darwen 584 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 4: and Palmerston it's going to need more affordable early education. 585 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 4: The childcare subsidy for families earning eighty grand or less, 586 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 4: and that's a fair wack for people in the North. 587 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 4: The subsidy will increase the ninety percent coverage of those fees. 588 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 4: Through the subsidy, our family on a combined income of 589 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 4: about one hundred and twenty grand as one example, with 590 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 4: one child in care will be seventeen hundred and eighty 591 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: dollars better off in the first year under our reforms. 592 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 4: And this is not only the cost of living relief 593 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 4: for territory families. Is also going to boost productivity because 594 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: it means that parents and especially mums who are usually 595 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: the care can work more paid hours if they want 596 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 4: to with their kids getting that early childhood education that's 597 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 4: so important of their kids development. Means more money in 598 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 4: the pockets of territory families, and that's a great thing 599 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: for territory, is a good thing for business because we 600 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 4: all know we're struggling with workforce, but what we've had 601 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 4: at the moment is families tossing up, well, is it 602 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 4: really worth me going to work because all the money 603 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 4: that I earn is going to pay for childcare. 604 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's bloody expensive. 605 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: It does make a big difference, particularly for those people 606 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: that are obviously that fall within that combined income and 607 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: within that singular income if it is a single parent, 608 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: because it's really tough going when you've got your kids 609 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: in childcare. It is so expensive and it does make 610 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: your question whether you should bother going back to work 611 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: or not. 612 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: In some cases, no. 613 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 4: Exactly, Okadie. And we've copped a bit of a flag 614 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 4: for extending it to people who are on quite good incomes. 615 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 4: But I guess the way that we've seen this is 616 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 4: the universality of government services should mean that people that 617 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 4: might be on a good wage, they should be entitled 618 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 4: to affordable early childhood care as well, the same as 619 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 4: they're entitled to send their kids to a government school, 620 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 4: same as they're entitled to go to well in hospital 621 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: or public hospital, you know. And that's a great thing 622 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 4: about our country, I think, is that we know we've 623 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 4: agreed as a society that we want to provide those 624 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 4: basic supports early childhood education, support, primary school, secondary school education. 625 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 4: We've put on twenty thousand more government funded university spots 626 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 4: and fee free k for a lot more territorians, and 627 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 4: now I think that's going to set us up for 628 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 4: the future and help our economy to grow as well. 629 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: Luke, we are going to have to leave it. They're 630 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: good to speak with you this morning. Thanks for keeping 631 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: us up to date with what's going on with the 632 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: Territory Rights Bill as well. 633 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 4: Thank you, Cady, and yeah, I hope everyone has great weekend. 634 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 2: Thank you.