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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Gam Nation time Survivor kicks off, I think, how would

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Speaker 2: I go? And then the minute they have to make

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Speaker 2: a puzzle, I think I'm out. The minute they'd have

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Speaker 2: to make their own shelter, I think I'm out, the

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Speaker 2: minut they have to catch their own food. So that's

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Speaker 2: pretty much day one, I'd be out. But it does

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Speaker 2: return tonight and the theme of this year's Survivor is

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Speaker 2: Heroes versus Villains. The host with the most of this show,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Opalia, joins us. Now, Hello, Jonathan, how are you good?

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Speaker 1: How are you here?

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Speaker 3: He is, although Amanda would be standing there just looking

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Speaker 3: at you with your shirt off as well, and.

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Speaker 2: You'd say do you mind doing the puzzle and I'd say, oh,

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Speaker 2: don't worry, I'm looking at it all the puzzle.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, they make me keep my shirt on, so well, maybe.

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Speaker 3: That could be a thing for Channel ten, just a

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Speaker 3: show of you with your shirt off. Put that on

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Speaker 3: instead of the project. That'll probably do well.

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Speaker 2: I'll save you from this, Jonathan. The heroes versus villains?

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Speaker 2: What makes in this show? I mean, you have to

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Speaker 2: play the game, so what makes a hero and what

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Speaker 2: makes a villain?

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Speaker 1: It's really, you know, it's really comes down to two

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Speaker 1: game style. You know, the villain is kind of willing

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Speaker 1: to do whatever it takes to get one step further

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Speaker 1: in the game, you know, their deception, they'll be sneaky,

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Speaker 1: they'll back to whatever it takes. And heroes, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of lean on loyalty and honor, but the truth

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Speaker 1: piece a kind of need both to get to the

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Speaker 1: end of this game. It's a difficult game, and you

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Speaker 1: know the premises you've got to vote someone out every

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Speaker 1: second night, so you have to be a little villainist

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Speaker 1: to do that in.

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Speaker 3: Your time of doing it. So you've done this for

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Speaker 3: eight seasons now, who has won the most, the heroes

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Speaker 3: or the villains.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question. I haven't tal you up.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we've had a good few heroes win.

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Speaker 1: But the villains make it fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And because at the end you still have to

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Speaker 2: stand in front of your peers and the tribal council

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Speaker 2: and they're the people who've been stabbed by you. So

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Speaker 2: that's where being a hero kind of comes into its own,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And that's the you know, that's the great conceit

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Speaker 1: of this game. Is that in the back half, the

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Speaker 1: people that you're voting out, they're the ones that become

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Speaker 1: the jury and they decide if you deserve to win,

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Speaker 1: So you have to vote them out in such a

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Speaker 1: way that you can still get their vote at the end.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you have to lean on those the hero characteristics,

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 3: And what are we eating this time around? There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of rice and coconut shells and pretty much it.

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Speaker 1: It's that's pretty much it. Yeah, coconuts, rice, some bananas,

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Speaker 1: but not much else, and they get pretty angry pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: I've spoken to some of the ex contests and I've

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Speaker 2: asked them about those when they win those opportunities to

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Speaker 2: gorge on cakes and things like that, you have to

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Speaker 2: eating nothing for weeks. They win a chance to go

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Speaker 2: into like a candy store and just gorge and they

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Speaker 2: say they love that, and then they're all sick because

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Speaker 2: they haven't they're not they're not used to eating like that,

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Speaker 2: So it's a it's a momentary thrill, and then they

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Speaker 2: have to deal with the aftermath.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's a it's a double ded sword. And I honestly,

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Speaker 1: you can sometimes we think with you know that there's

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Speaker 1: a great reward, like you know you're gonna win a

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Speaker 1: car today, and they're like, is there any is there

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Speaker 1: a picnic with that? Is there any food? Oh? It's

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Speaker 1: a sicky thoutain dollar guy Like, can I have a

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Speaker 1: cookie with that?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 3: It might be a carp but I really go a picnic,

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Speaker 3: that'd be.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan's always great to talk to. Australian survivor. Heroes Versus

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Speaker 3: Villain begins tonight seven thirty on Channel ten and ten

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Speaker 3: play just put him on the telly with his shirt off.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna put bums on seats.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you talked to Channel ten about that.

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Speaker 3: I think I think I should be running the place, really, Jonathan,

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Speaker 3: thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks guys, good talking to you.

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Speaker 3: Easy mane