WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Can you bone your besties bro?

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on gadigal Land. Hi, guys, and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 2>another episode of Life. I'm can't, I'm Laura, I'm Brittany,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is our Thursday episode in case you've forgotten

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<v Speaker 2>what day of the week it is, but it's where

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<v Speaker 2>we answer or You're deep, you're dark, and you're burning questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a really cute moment this week, guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to share it because I think it's people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be like cringing in their shoes here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to talk about kindness.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm just I paused for dramatic effect. Kindness is important.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. This is a really pivotal, pointant moment

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<v Speaker 3>in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, like, somebody did something really kind for me this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that it has happened so rarely, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Wow, it really stopped me in my tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course people are kind all the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>let me just tell you the story. I went on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>Marketplace now. Facebook Marketplace is a deep dark.

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<v Speaker 3>I fucking loved it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've bought so much shit on Facebook Marketplace recently. The

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<v Speaker 2>amount of plants I have bought off Facebook Marketplace is

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<v Speaker 2>that where you get your plans from.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a.

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<v Speaker 2>Variegated monsterra from Facebook Marketplace, and like, they are expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>but this anyway, I don't need to get into that

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<v Speaker 2>they're expensive, but I got a really good price and

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<v Speaker 2>the woman even dropped it off at my house.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, the service paid a bit extra for that.

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<v Speaker 1>How awkward can marketplace be? You know, when like you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to sell some or pick it up. I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that awkward exchange of like you've paid thirty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for a toaster, You've had to drive four hours to

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<v Speaker 1>get it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, why am I doing this?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, It's that like you're meeting a stranger to swap goods.

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<v Speaker 3>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had a coffee table in our house that

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Matt was away and I was like

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<v Speaker 2>that fucking coffee table has to go, and today is

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<v Speaker 2>the day that I'm going to get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I put it up on Facebook Marketplace. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>free to good home, just come and take take it.

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<v Speaker 2>And this English guy who was around the corner. In

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<v Speaker 2>no way was I like, Oh, I don't want this

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<v Speaker 2>in my house. I'm worried about my safety. He was

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<v Speaker 2>just like very normal dude who had his wife was

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<v Speaker 2>like living around the corner, and she wanted she wanted

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<v Speaker 2>the coffee table. But I couldn't get rid of the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He came into my house and instead of just helping

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<v Speaker 2>me lift it up and walk out the door, he

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<v Speaker 2>just stood there having a chat. Twenty five minutes later,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, mate, let's go, Like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is meant to be a quick transaction, but then this

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<v Speaker 1>is weird, right, Like you have a strange man in

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<v Speaker 1>your house essentially, Yeah, why do we still feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we need to be polite enough to like have that conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>like offer him a tea, sit down and chat.

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<v Speaker 3>Why can't we just say, hey, mate, take the table.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm never gonna see you again in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm never going to see you again. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>do it. We like fluff around and we feel guilty

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<v Speaker 3>and we want to know their whole less story. I know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like telling me about why I was here,

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<v Speaker 2>and like his wife's having a bad and it was lovely,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm happy for him.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're like I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, if I knew this was going

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<v Speaker 1>to take so long, I wouldn't have said it was free, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have made you pay for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Iime was money. I also find it really awkward.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember once I was felling a table that's right

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<v Speaker 4>being away for free.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got an Englishman to go pick it up with.

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<v Speaker 1>I was selling table and I remember, because I was

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<v Speaker 1>living alone, I always felt awkward and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that came in.

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<v Speaker 4>But that awkwardness of like when someone tries to barter

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<v Speaker 4>with me.

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<v Speaker 1>In person, if it's my worst and it's you're a

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<v Speaker 1>keyboard warrior, like I will go you. But when it's

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<v Speaker 1>in person and it's like four hundred dollars he's like

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<v Speaker 1>i'll give you fifty, I'm like okay, sure, he's like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a scratch fifty. I'm like, nowherries because I feel guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>So you took you no, I I dam much less.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't, but I did take less because I felt

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<v Speaker 1>bad because I just can't have that interaction. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the confrontation like, I can't do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>often I did this the other day actually in person.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll agree to it, and then I'll go home and

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<v Speaker 1>send a text and I'll say, hey, I think we misunderstood,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go back on. Anyway, talk to me about kindness.

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<v Speaker 3>Bread.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was picking up some boogie boards, like some bodyboards.

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<v Speaker 3>Not for myself. I'm not taking up bodyboarding. It's really

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<v Speaker 3>into a boogie body No.

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<v Speaker 1>My niece and nephew are starting to surf like bodyboard.

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<v Speaker 1>And there were these body boards for fifty bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>They were really good.

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<v Speaker 1>They came with a whole set with like fins and

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<v Speaker 1>flippers and like leashes, and it was probably worth like

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred bucks and sale for fifty dollars. So I

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<v Speaker 1>went to pick it up, and when I got there,

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, oh, I wasn't expecting you to be

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<v Speaker 1>the one that wants to bodyboard, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't sit you to want a kid's bodyboard. That's

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<v Speaker 3>so weird.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not kids.

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<v Speaker 1>They were pretty big, okay, right, but so the kids

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna have to grow into them. They're not kids' bodyboards.

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<v Speaker 1>They were proper, which is why they were so expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh, I just wasn't expecting you. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought that'd be like a bodyboard. And I was like, mane,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even know. Asus didn't say that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to internal monologue. So I was like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually for my niece and nephew, like they're really

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get into bodyboarding, and you know, I told

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<v Speaker 1>them I was going to pick them up and they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be so excited.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was like no way.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I love kids that want to get out

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<v Speaker 1>there and just give it a go.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like right, and he's like, do you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, I'm going to give this to.

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<v Speaker 3>You for free? And I was like what, No, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to do that, Like I'll pay fifty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like no, if it's going to encourage a kid

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<v Speaker 1>to get out there, and you're encouraging the kids to

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<v Speaker 1>get out there, I'm give them you for free.

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<v Speaker 4>Took the whole thing and I got all the bodyboards

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<v Speaker 4>for free.

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<v Speaker 2>So moral of the story is be super hot and

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<v Speaker 2>rock up to pick ups on me. So a guy

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<v Speaker 2>on basement, it was if you, if you were an

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<v Speaker 2>unattractive middle aged man who went to pick it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're like, I'm getting this for my kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Nods the kids, Laura, Mate, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 6>The gender gap exists, so we need to take it

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<v Speaker 6>where we can win. Like we're losing in the financial

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<v Speaker 6>circumstances usually.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I think the moral of the story is anything

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<v Speaker 1>you buy, say it's for the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I say it a lot because it actually

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<v Speaker 2>is for the kids. Ain't no one giving shit to

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<v Speaker 2>me for free. They look at me and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>wedding ring. You look like you've had two kids out

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<v Speaker 2>of you. Not giving you anything. I'm gonna get nothing

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<v Speaker 2>at it. They looked at you and they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>no ring.

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<v Speaker 3>Nephew, I see where you're going. Yeah, he was married,

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<v Speaker 3>though it doesn't matter a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you see that thing that went viral last week

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<v Speaker 6>from Florida? Of course, all of the craziest things in

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<v Speaker 6>the entire world come out of Florida. There were that's

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<v Speaker 6>an exchange about Facebook marketplace where there was a couple

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<v Speaker 6>of leg This went on TikTok and it was a

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<v Speaker 6>screenshot of a conversation and they were kind of bartering

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<v Speaker 6>back and forth at the start, and then the message

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<v Speaker 6>from the person who was selling the item said available

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<v Speaker 6>when question mark. The next message said I work m

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<v Speaker 6>dash F and get home around nine ish. And then

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<v Speaker 6>the person who was responding to this, the person who

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<v Speaker 6>was purchasing the item, sent a voice note in response,

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<v Speaker 6>and this is what they said.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you met the motherfucker in a

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<v Speaker 5>good way or a bad way, but if you met

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<v Speaker 5>it in a good way, fuck you, okay, because I

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<v Speaker 5>send you a fucking answer for something you told me yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>So let's get a little fucking respect going, because I

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<v Speaker 5>can be just as big as an asshole. Your stupid fuck.

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<v Speaker 5>All I'm trying to fucking do is by some piece

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<v Speaker 5>of shit that you're selling. What the hell? But let's

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<v Speaker 5>start fucking respecting people.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Well that escalator, Can I pick up a when

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<v Speaker 1>you made Monday to Friday?

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<v Speaker 5>Mo fuck up?

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<v Speaker 3>So quickly?

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<v Speaker 2>Like imagine the time when you realize, like when that

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<v Speaker 2>person who was selling it rights back and says, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I met Monday to Friday. Imagine that thought process, the

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<v Speaker 2>realization that actually you got it wrong. Do you need

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow or do you just ghost? That would be a

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<v Speaker 2>ghosting situation. No, I think you'd right back in hysterics.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd be like, I'm so sorry, I thought you called

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<v Speaker 3>me a motherfucker? Is the person who took someone's Calamario

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<v Speaker 3>play last week? That's different calls on a motherfucker? That

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<v Speaker 3>was Yeah, I own that. I stand by that decision.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he would have just been like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I don't need that boogie board for fifty

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<v Speaker 2>bucks that bad?

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<v Speaker 3>And he would have just left it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now because market plays fines their little gold mines, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're hard.

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<v Speaker 4>When you come across the thing you really want, he's

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<v Speaker 4>going to have to apologize.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I get was there a resolution? We don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean people on TikTok are asking for what happened next.

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<v Speaker 6>But I understand where it comes from because it sounds

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<v Speaker 6>as though if you read it as I work, motherfucker

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<v Speaker 6>and get home at nine ish, it's like he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to say, like, I've got shit to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, unlike you, I'm not just fucking driving around picking

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<v Speaker 1>up things from marketplace all day.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes. I took that as I work Monday to Friday. Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>We're saying that if you had interpreted it as motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, but why why.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you interpret it when you're having a beautiful exchange

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<v Speaker 1>on like you're literally working out of time, so you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I work, motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would you say Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I think because they've been bartering about the price.

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<v Speaker 6>If that makes he's thinking that he's responding to him

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<v Speaker 6>saying I want it for less, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like hilarious, fucking hilarious.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, I'm glad your market Plaice experience was a lot better.

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<v Speaker 3>Full of kindness.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I thought mine was full of kindness and then

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<v Speaker 1>you shot me in the foot, Laura. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>it was full of kindness and hotness. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>the hotness counts for something. I think that every time

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<v Speaker 1>people can be kind as well without wanting to bang.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I am skeptical.

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<v Speaker 2>People are really kind to people they want to fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into vibes, all right, what is your vibe

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<v Speaker 2>for the week? Speaking this week about Donald Trump? I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like this is going to be something that some

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<v Speaker 2>people might be interested in. It's a podcast series that

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to to better understand what is happening,

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<v Speaker 2>because it can be quite confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>You get a lot of headlines. It's called Trump's trial.

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<v Speaker 1>That's literally the podcast is dedicated to this. It's hosted

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<v Speaker 1>by a political editor.

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<v Speaker 3>But every week.

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<v Speaker 1>They have like a different legal expert come on, or

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<v Speaker 1>multiple different people. So like in the last episode that

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<v Speaker 1>I had that I listened to, there were three different

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<v Speaker 1>people's opinions.

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<v Speaker 3>That came on.

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<v Speaker 4>They're quite bite sized, they're quite small.

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<v Speaker 1>The last one that was actually on, the conviction was

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<v Speaker 1>like half an hour. And it's just in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that's really palatable.

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<v Speaker 3>You understand what.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't go into anything, it doesn't need to go into,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just found it a really nice way to understand.

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<v Speaker 3>And educate yourself on what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Also, American politics can be so convoluted and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it is a system that functions fundamentally different to how

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<v Speaker 2>it does here in Australia. Is it just around Trump?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it this podcast just around his criminal cases? Just

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<v Speaker 2>this okay, just around Trump's and the trial. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>read you some of the headlines so you understand, has

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecution proved its case against Trump? Testimony in hush

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<v Speaker 2>money trial concludes.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all like half an hour twenty minutes, eight minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>They're very much as you go, what is happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine listening to all this and then being that person

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<v Speaker 2>at any sort of party or dinner party where you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>let me update you on what's happening in Trump's life.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally.

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<v Speaker 4>Here are the three possible outcomes in the Trump hush

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<v Speaker 4>money trial.

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<v Speaker 3>So your son so educated and smart.

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<v Speaker 1>If you behold, I am shock her not you listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this and then using it as information at a

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<v Speaker 1>dinner party.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you just said to me so smart.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, thanks, losing to take the kindness wherever she

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<v Speaker 1>can get Trump's trial.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have any interest whatsoever?

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<v Speaker 1>And you enjoyed the episode that we did on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>This is few perfect.

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<v Speaker 6>My vibe for this week. It's on Netflix and it's

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<v Speaker 6>probably the number one trending show. It only came out

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<v Speaker 6>last Wednesday. We were sent a lot of messages about

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<v Speaker 6>it because it is definitely something that all three of

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<v Speaker 6>us would be really into.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Dancing for the Devil the Seven m TikTok Cult.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a three part docu series.

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<v Speaker 6>The episodes are about forty five minutes each from memory

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<v Speaker 6>something around there, and it starts off with the story

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<v Speaker 6>of these two sisters. You may actually know them because

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<v Speaker 6>they were really Instagram famous and TikTok famous, the Wilking Sisters,

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<v Speaker 6>they were the dancing sisters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, I've seen parts of this story. It's so interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so Melanie and Miranda.

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<v Speaker 6>There are other episodes and it kind of goes into

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<v Speaker 6>quite a few different people's stories and it gets a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit darker as it progresses.

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<v Speaker 3>But basically, there's this church. It's run by a guy

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<v Speaker 3>called Robert.

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<v Speaker 6>Shin and they turn it into this kind of like

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<v Speaker 6>talent management agency. It's quite strange. Essentially, there are all

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<v Speaker 6>of these dance influences. There's quite a few of them.

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<v Speaker 6>They were really famous on social media. They also went

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<v Speaker 6>on things like So You Think You Can Dance and

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<v Speaker 6>all the American talent shows. They got signed by this agency.

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<v Speaker 6>And as it turns out, as the story unravels, it

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<v Speaker 6>becomes very increasingly clear that they're a part of this

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<v Speaker 6>cult and a part of the teachings of the church

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<v Speaker 6>kind of link into what the percentage of what they've

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<v Speaker 6>got to give of what they earn back to this

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<v Speaker 6>guy Robert and the church organization. It's quite convoluted, but

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<v Speaker 6>they make it really really clear. And the main kind

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<v Speaker 6>of story at the start has.

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<v Speaker 3>To do with these sisters, because.

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<v Speaker 6>All of her family are on this documentary being like,

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<v Speaker 6>we love her, she's completely changed, we have next to

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<v Speaker 6>no contact with her now. We just want her back,

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<v Speaker 6>but she's really brainwashed by this cult leader and she

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<v Speaker 6>is still a part of the cult. It's so I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't seen this, but I've seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>the information around it. It would be so jarring as

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<v Speaker 6>well for people who have followed them and who know

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<v Speaker 6>of these sisters to think that one of them has

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<v Speaker 6>just been sucked up in a world that she's now

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<v Speaker 6>inaccessible to her own family.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also classic cult storyline, isn't it like every cult

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<v Speaker 1>docuseries that you has a family member saying they're a

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<v Speaker 1>completely different person. They've gone off the rails. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>contact them, and it's because they've been groomed and brainwashed

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<v Speaker 1>and shut out.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that that is I actually do that

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<v Speaker 6>really really well in this because they'd get the stories

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<v Speaker 6>of quite a few different people, and some of them

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<v Speaker 6>were these famous dances, but others were like normal people,

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<v Speaker 6>and you guys have spoken to a lot of people

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<v Speaker 6>who have been a part of cults. India Oxenburg comes

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<v Speaker 6>to mind, and she spoke about how the people who

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<v Speaker 6>run these cults often look for the broken bird, They

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<v Speaker 6>look for the person who is quite easy to manipulate.

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<v Speaker 6>I really think this docuseries did a good job of

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<v Speaker 6>showing just how easily anyone can be conditioned and anyone

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<v Speaker 6>can be brainwashed. And I think it's quite interesting that

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<v Speaker 6>this is not yet like there are multiple lawsuits out

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<v Speaker 6>against this guy, Robert and quite a few of the

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<v Speaker 6>other people who are involved in the church, but this

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<v Speaker 6>is happening almost in real time.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they recorded the last part of this at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of twenty twenty three. So this is available on Netflix. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it came out last Wednesday. Dancing for the Devil, the

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<v Speaker 3>seven m TikTok Cult. Okay, I have a very functional

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<v Speaker 3>vibe today.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you guys know from Tuesday's episode, we currently

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<v Speaker 2>have a house that is leaking everywhere, and currently that

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<v Speaker 2>we are, you know, across the country heading into winter

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<v Speaker 2>or are we in winter?

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<v Speaker 3>We're officially in winter. It's winter now.

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<v Speaker 2>First week it is wet, and I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people during these months deal with having increased moisture

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<v Speaker 2>in the house. Now it is a product, it is

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<v Speaker 2>very easily accessible. It is called the Hippo Moisture Absorber.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get them from woolies or coals, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>basically that little plastic box that you put them into

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<v Speaker 2>your wardrobe or into a cupboard space. We currently have

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<v Speaker 2>them all around the front room and they are so

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<v Speaker 2>effective if you don't have a dehumidifire in actually trying

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<v Speaker 2>to take the moisture out of the room. Highly recommend

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<v Speaker 2>they have come in as little God send to us.

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<v Speaker 2>And because they're so cheap, I would say that if

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<v Speaker 2>you're someone who gets their jackets and things out of

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<v Speaker 2>the wardrobe at the end of winter or like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>halfway through summer and realize that you've got mill draw

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<v Speaker 2>or mole growing on them, this is something you need

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<v Speaker 2>to have in your wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had them for using my wardrobe because I live

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<v Speaker 1>in Bondai and in Bondai everything well, everything's down, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything's dark, and so I've had them for years.

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<v Speaker 2>They're great. Yes, yeah, so good. Anyway, that's it from us, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into the Questions, Question number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have a problem. I have been friends with

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<v Speaker 1>my bestie since primary school. We're in our early twenties now,

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<v Speaker 1>and about six months ago, I was staying at her

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<v Speaker 1>house and I accidentally slept with her brother.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't accidentally sleep with someone. She fell away, but.

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<v Speaker 1>They fell and tripped. We'd had a few drinks. I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly don't know how it happened, but it just did.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say anything to her because I felt bad

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<v Speaker 1>and thought that it would never happen again.

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<v Speaker 4>But oh, you fucked you slept again. That she's clumsy, slippery,

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<v Speaker 4>She's slippery, It's super slippery.

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<v Speaker 5>Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>We have started sort of sleeping together now, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure I have feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, you have to tell her. Ah, I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>so deep. What do I do?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I know if it's worth seeing him seriously

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<v Speaker 1>and risking the awkwardness with this whole family that I've

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<v Speaker 1>known my entire life. And if I don't decide that

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<v Speaker 1>it's serious, do I still tell my friend regardless? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be that clumsy around your best friend's brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh can you me?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm because I'm putting myself in this situation, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's tough because I know people who they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>slip and fall, but I know people that ended up

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<v Speaker 1>marrying their friend's brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think they did that the right way.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think that they there was a conversation first,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I have feelings. I think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was very obvious, like hey, I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>something there, blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a consensual between Bessie's families, partners. Everything was consensual.

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<v Speaker 2>But like if it was one time, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>just don't bother, like take it to the grave.

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<v Speaker 3>If you accidentally slept with my brother, would you never

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<v Speaker 3>tell me?

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<v Speaker 1>Nah?

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<v Speaker 3>Ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah if I tell you if I had sex to

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<v Speaker 2>your brother, and I thought you were going to be

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<v Speaker 2>mad because some people don't care, right, Some people are

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<v Speaker 2>like whatever, that's weird, but sure, And then some people

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<v Speaker 2>are weirdly protective of their siblings and their immediate family,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I wouldn't care, Like if you wanted to have

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<v Speaker 2>my brother is t he's I think he's twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Now come, actually I should know your brother's gay, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's very gay and he's married to a man, So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he would want to have sex with you,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can't. I would be more confused if you

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<v Speaker 2>guys had sex with each other, but like I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be mad.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's going to be upset because of

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<v Speaker 1>friends with a brother. I might be reading between the lines.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's going to be the problem. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the problem is more that you've been doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for six months behind her back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gone too far now. But now you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest now. I think you regardless of whether it

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<v Speaker 2>happens or it doesn't happen, I think you do have

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to your friend about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a friend that hooked up with my brother

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<v Speaker 4>and my brothers once.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually think it happened a few times when we're younger,

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<v Speaker 1>because my brothers I have two brothers that are older them.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it's found to happen. And I also hooked

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<v Speaker 1>up with their friends too. Can't blame you, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was it was awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>When I knew my friend had hooked up with my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like cool, I hated it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, it's so.

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<v Speaker 1>Awkward to me because you know, your siblings on a

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<v Speaker 1>different and I guess as an adult, it sounds amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the ideal situation is if like your best friend

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<v Speaker 1>or forever was with your brother and it became your

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<v Speaker 1>family forever.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds like an epic situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But you also don't want to hear about the intricacies

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<v Speaker 2>of their sex life. Yeah, you don't want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>about the fights they have. The things that you share

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<v Speaker 2>with your girlfriends about their boyfriends or about their partners,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't share the same level of that when they're

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<v Speaker 2>dating your brother.

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<v Speaker 3>It does change things.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, yeah, you can't be like you put in

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<v Speaker 1>my mud lessner You're like, oh, Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to hear I don't hear about that

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<v Speaker 3>about bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I think the other part of this is,

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<v Speaker 2>and I maybe it's where most people when I say that,

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<v Speaker 2>there are some people who really get upset by this.

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<v Speaker 3>What it is that makes them upset.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not so much like this feeling of betrayal, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like, and I'm not going to it's not jealousy.

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<v Speaker 3>Jealousy is not the right description for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like, you're my friend, our relationship is so

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<v Speaker 2>close and now you're going to have a even closer,

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<v Speaker 2>slash different relationship with my brother. There's this feeling of

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<v Speaker 2>being the person that's triangulated from the relationship, which you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of this is what happens. But you were my

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<v Speaker 2>best friend, and I guess, like that is step mine.

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<v Speaker 2>You were mine, like you were my friend, and now

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be best friends with my brother, Like what?

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<v Speaker 2>And then what if you guys break up? Then you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to ruin our friendship because you guys break up.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I guess, there's many layers, and so I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to say I understand why for some people it's

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<v Speaker 2>a no go zone. But okay, let's just peel this

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<v Speaker 2>back and start from the beginning. You did it once.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't think you're going to tell it because you

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was an accident. You didn't want to make

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal about it. It's clearly not an accident anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's clearly something that you're voluntarily to do, me to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're sneaking behind her backs that she doesn't know,

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<v Speaker 2>and so is he when she finds out, which she

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<v Speaker 2>probably will. These things always have a way of coming

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<v Speaker 2>out at some point in time. She's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>more mad that you lied to her about it than

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<v Speaker 2>what she will be about the fact that you've had

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<v Speaker 2>sex with her brother. I think so the way I

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<v Speaker 2>would approach this is I would speak to him first.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have a conversation of like, look, this could

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<v Speaker 2>end very badly for us. I love your sister, you

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<v Speaker 2>love your sister. We need to have a conversation around

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<v Speaker 2>what is this. Is this just a casual thing and

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<v Speaker 2>we're both super sexually attracted to each other, or is

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<v Speaker 2>something more here? Because I think that it will need

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<v Speaker 2>to be approached differently depending on whether there are real

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<v Speaker 2>feelings involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you one hundred percent need to know where you're going,

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<v Speaker 1>because he could just think it's just sex and not

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<v Speaker 1>what anything else and might not have the feelings that

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<v Speaker 1>you have. Or maybe he does have the feelings and

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<v Speaker 1>he's the love of your life and you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get married and live happily ever after.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I think you need to remember if you've

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<v Speaker 2>been friends with him for this long and you've never

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<v Speaker 2>ever ever thought of him romantically, like you've known him

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<v Speaker 2>since you were a kid, you've never thought of it,

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<v Speaker 2>like when.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't have those feelings in primary school totally.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you catch the D sometimes you also catch

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<v Speaker 2>the feelings. He might not be real. Well, you call

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<v Speaker 2>the hormones.

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<v Speaker 3>You caught the B, then you caught the D.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you caught the F. Like he's the B bestie's first,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh than the dick. Best is dick feelings, feelings word.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the foundation ladies and gentlemen for a really

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<v Speaker 1>solid relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have gone with FDF friends dick feelings. What

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<v Speaker 3>did I say? Best is? You said BB? It best is? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway it continue.

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<v Speaker 1>So look, I think, but I genuinely think, regardless, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to tell her. It's just what you're telling her,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you've been hooking up for six months, that

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<v Speaker 1>is going to come out at some point, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>years down the tracks, someone's going to say something. The

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<v Speaker 1>brother's going to be like, you know, I fucked Betty once, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hooked up or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to slip out. It it's going to table

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<v Speaker 3>like it slipped into you. It's going to sleep out.

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<v Speaker 3>Accidents happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think, have the conversation with him and decide

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<v Speaker 1>what you want, like if you don't, and I genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>mean this if you don't think you want a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with him, I would stop sleeping with him because your

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<v Speaker 1>best friend is going to be really upset. And if

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going anywhere, you're not gaining anything other than

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<v Speaker 1>a good couple of minutes, and that's probably accurate, a

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<v Speaker 1>good couple of minutes that you could get elsewhere. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if it's just sex, even if it's not going somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would tell her maybe you can wind

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<v Speaker 1>it down how much or how frequently or how often,

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<v Speaker 1>because that might hurt. But it's important that you know

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<v Speaker 1>there's something's been going on, because she's going to feel

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<v Speaker 1>very like you've been sneaking around behind her back because

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<v Speaker 1>you have.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also think it's a different conversation if you

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<v Speaker 2>went to your friend and you said, hey, look, this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be weird for you, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you because I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>I have feelings for your brother.

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<v Speaker 2>As I was putting myself in this situation saying it

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<v Speaker 2>to you, and I certainly don't have feelings for your brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>but like if you know, if you did, yes, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it would just be it's such an awkward chat,

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<v Speaker 2>like I have feelings for your brother.

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<v Speaker 3>You know this has happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that this maybe will upset you, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know that the reason why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you about it is because it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel seriously about.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, Okay, if I DAMMN, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that she will feel differently about that than if

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<v Speaker 2>you were to go to her and say, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really have feelings with your brother, but he's my

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<v Speaker 2>fuck buddy and we're going to con and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to continue doing that. Because as a friend, I would

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<v Speaker 2>be like, Okay, cool, I get that this means nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to you, but our friendship means a lot to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're risking our friendship by potentially creating drama with

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<v Speaker 2>my brother. So which when drama, which means that like

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<v Speaker 2>when it all finishes, and if it finishes messally, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not able to come around to the house anymore, or

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<v Speaker 2>you avoid things, or you just you've created a situation

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<v Speaker 2>where it could have a negative impact on your friendship,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, And so I understand why she would respond

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<v Speaker 2>differently depending on what the scenario is. So figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how you actually feel.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like we say this same thing when people

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<v Speaker 1>are write in about like and I remember this one

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<v Speaker 1>particular ask gun cut this one woman that I'm thinking of.

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<v Speaker 1>She wrote in like she was the other woman. She

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<v Speaker 1>was having an affair with a married band. She wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship he was. And I remember her saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't feel bad, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want anything with him, he doesn't want anything

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<v Speaker 1>with me. And I remember my advice then because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel the same way about it.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like, I'm not doing anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't mean anything to you, go fuck someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I wanted to say to that woman. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you've said you don't have feelings, you've said

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing, it's never going to be anything else. Then

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<v Speaker 1>there's a hundred other people you could go and have

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<v Speaker 1>sex with where you're not breaking down their whole marriage totally.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the same way in this situation, in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense of if it's just sex, then you could probably

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<v Speaker 1>get it somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think your friend needs to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's a question though, Like let's move beyond this

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<v Speaker 2>exact situation. Do you think it is reasonable for someone

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<v Speaker 2>to be angry at their friend for having sex with

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<v Speaker 2>a sibling.

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<v Speaker 4>I had sex with my brother's friend, so we date it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can handle my heart say, I've never had sex

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<v Speaker 2>with any of my and a brother had sex friends

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<v Speaker 2>my friend. Okay, and so were you annoyed? Just were

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<v Speaker 2>you just weird a out, just weird? But did it

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<v Speaker 2>change your friendship at all?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Did it change his friendship at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it was weird at the time because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>it was my brother's friend that had been It was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't last because I felt like he was like

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<v Speaker 1>my brother. He'd been in you know, the brothers that

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<v Speaker 1>you've grown up with him the whole life.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly like this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, since I was five years old, right, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>was in my life as my older brother's best friend.

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<v Speaker 3>So I always just thought it was he was just

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<v Speaker 3>part of our family all time. He comes to Christmases

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<v Speaker 3>and then came over one day and you were like.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, no, one day we had a house

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<v Speaker 1>party and we hooked up, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this is the FDF like friends dick fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>But we walked up.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't sleep together that night, which we just kissed

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, wow, and then he asked me

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<v Speaker 1>on a date. He's like, I've got feelings for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know to this day how he went

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I don't know if he went to my

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<v Speaker 1>brother and asked him more, but he must have. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget. It just completely changed. He used to

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<v Speaker 1>just come over and walk in the house, but the

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<v Speaker 1>second he was taking me on a date, he came

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<v Speaker 1>and knocked on the door. Dane answered and he was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually here to see Britt, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's so funny. And we went out for like

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<v Speaker 3>a week and I was We both looked at each

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<v Speaker 3>other one night, We're like, this is so weird. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, we can't do it, and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Just called It does change things, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing. You can't fool yourself into thinking that

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<v Speaker 2>everything's just going to be the same. So that's why

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<v Speaker 2>she's probably gonna have some reactions. She's probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>be weired out by it a bit because it will

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<v Speaker 2>change a dynamic within your friendship slightly, even if it shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing is is that the thing she's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the most upset about is the being lied to.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Question number two, is it okay to ghost old friends

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<v Speaker 2>that you've outgrown? I can say no after the first

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<v Speaker 2>question for the first line, but I'll give you the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of it. First context, I'm in a group chat

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<v Speaker 2>with the few girls that I went to high school

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<v Speaker 2>with ten years ago. I am close with one, used

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<v Speaker 2>to be close with two of them, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>other I just haven't really ever connected with. Every now

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<v Speaker 2>and again, the chat pops up about making plans, and

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<v Speaker 2>I never really feel interested in being involved with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I have to respond and make up

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<v Speaker 2>a reason for not joining.

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<v Speaker 3>I am asking is it okay to just ghost the chat?

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<v Speaker 2>It feels harsh, but I can't say, oh, sorry, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of just outgrowing this group. The hard bit

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<v Speaker 2>is that one of the girls I want to preserve

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<v Speaker 2>my friendship with, and of course I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>see mean to the other.

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<v Speaker 3>How do I approach this? Okay, We've had.

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<v Speaker 1>This like friendship chat, like the basis of the chat,

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<v Speaker 1>in so many different ways over the years, because this

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 1>is a reoccurring theme. And I get why it's a

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 1>recurring theme because at some point all of us go

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<v Speaker 1>through it, like at some point grow a friendship totally.

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>It is a part of life, like without doubt, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no one that goes through this life that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>ever outgrow a friendship in some capacity.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't ghost the chat.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, they get an alert Brittany has left anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>That's changed.

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<v Speaker 5>So many group chats.

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<v Speaker 2>When I get so WhatsApp has changed it, they no

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 2>longer announce to everyone Britain has left. But you can

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>still see members of the chat, like someone can still

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>find if you've if you haven't been riding back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still in it.

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<v Speaker 2>So like the old street I used to live on,

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<v Speaker 2>it has a group chat for the street. I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>in the group the group chat, I'm still in the

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<v Speaker 2>group chat for the street.

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<v Speaker 3>You can leave that.

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<v Speaker 1>I can leave that. You left the street, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>no longer in that street. I'm not on Rose Street.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to be in the road street. How

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<v Speaker 1>many people are in the chat like fifteen? Oh, but

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<v Speaker 1>no one's noticing you go babe, some saucy shit goes

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<v Speaker 1>down on that street.

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<v Speaker 3>I do enjoy the GHSS.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you mute it and stay in it and

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<v Speaker 1>just go have a little deep dive every now and again.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon someone is going to listen to this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to get yeated. Laura has been blocked,

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<v Speaker 2>just removed from the group chat. Guys, Laura for the

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<v Speaker 2>goss I am, I really am. I like to know

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<v Speaker 2>who left their car lights on of such a nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>So I truly believe in this situation, it's okay that

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<v Speaker 1>you feel more connected to one friend. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you necessarily need to leave this chat. You could be

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<v Speaker 1>like me, who is in a lot of chats and

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't contribute. You know, there's different people in a group chat.

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>There's the one that organizes everything, the one that's constantly

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<v Speaker 1>sending memes. Then there's a person that doesn't contribute anything ever,

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>but they're always there. They're lurking, and then every couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks they throw in something that's me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay to do that, and then it's okay to.

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<v Speaker 1>Still have your friendship with the girl that you feel

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<v Speaker 1>closer with on the side, like, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>only do things as a group. You can constantly be

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with her and very sporadically once a month

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever do.

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<v Speaker 3>Something with the group.

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<v Speaker 1>I think unless you like detest someone and something has

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<v Speaker 1>happened and you never need to see them again.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, look, I definitely firstly just want to

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<v Speaker 2>say it's never a good idea to just ghost people,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's a friend, whether it's a relationship. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it leaves people feeling as though they have done something

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<v Speaker 2>wrong and that they have done something to warrant you

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<v Speaker 2>just removing your friendship from them, and that's really unfair,

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and it can be a really cruel I mean it is,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not can be it's a really cruel way to

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<v Speaker 2>treat people.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's all just not ghost people. It's not appropriate. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you can slow fade.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can slow fade, and that is I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's ghosting in some way. But I think it is

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit kinder, especially in terms of like some friendships,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when it's a group friendship. If it was specifically

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<v Speaker 2>targeted to one person from that group and you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to stay friends with everyone, and you were like, I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't want that one person, I'd be like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>actually really fucking mean. You don't have to be super

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<v Speaker 2>close with everyone in a group of friends. You can

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<v Speaker 2>you can have one person or three people that you're

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<v Speaker 2>closer with and one person that you don't connect with

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<v Speaker 2>as much. That's just the reality of having a group

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<v Speaker 2>of friends. I do think that this is probably more

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<v Speaker 2>something that becomes more prevalent after you leave school, because

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>you might have your school friends, and then as you

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<v Speaker 2>move through different phases of life, you realize, oh, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>when we're not in an environment where we have to

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<v Speaker 2>all be friends with each other, there are some people

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<v Speaker 2>that connect with more than other people. And I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is is you just exactly like you said, Britt,

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<v Speaker 2>you can still have those closer connections in a private chat,

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<v Speaker 2>but just dip in, like, I'm sure this group chat

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<v Speaker 2>is not causing you that much anguish that you never

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<v Speaker 2>ever ever want to be of friends with any of

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<v Speaker 2>them in there. And also, my thing is if you

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<v Speaker 2>completely ghost this group chat, if you behave in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that's quite mean. Really, they're gonna still do stuff together,

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 2>and that one person who you do really want to

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<v Speaker 2>still be friends with might not really do things with

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 2>you because they're still friends with the other girls. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel the way that you feel, So they're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to triangulate themselves in that situation.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think if it's not causing your grief and

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<v Speaker 2>it requires minimal effort, then I would maintain it myself

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 2>and probably over time it would fade anyway in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that probably doesn't quite feel so dramatic, but I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely wouldn't be just going I've said my last message

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>and I'm never going to message the group again and

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>blocking it. I don't think we need to be that

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<v Speaker 2>dramatic with our friends.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I think it's like every three weeks you just

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<v Speaker 1>throw a loll in, double tap something, throw a loll yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can exit. You know, you just enter

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>quick like hopefully there's gonna be something in there that

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<v Speaker 1>you would have laughed at low hopefully no one's saying

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that their grandma passed away, and then you leave the chat.

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 3>That happens.

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>So if you're not an active member in a group

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<v Speaker 2>chat and you haven't been in there for a while,

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 2>you missed like terrible things and then you come in

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 2>with like, hey, guys, how is everyone And someone's just

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 2>said like their grandma died or something, and.

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>You just you know, it didn't even look Yeah, on

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>your street, someone's bins have been stolen.

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Like, if you don't know that you pop into the.

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<v Speaker 1>Group, I'm a lurker. I never ever comment anymore. They

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know I'm in there, they know you're there. You

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>just like Also, I think it's it's really important to

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<v Speaker 1>establish your role in the group because, like, my friends

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>now know what I'm like. They know that I I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not an overly great communicator via text. They know that

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>they might have to which is I'm not proud of.

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>But they might follow up on something and then I'm like, oh, yep,

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>sorry're sorry, sorry, But they know that I've established my

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<v Speaker 1>role in the group.

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<v Speaker 3>Text because that you're a bad friend. I'm a bad friend.

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 3>My role is the bad friend role. But what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>saying is they don't take it personally.

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>If there's four or five people that are back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth, back and forth and I'm not in it,

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't think Brittany's not contributing. They just know what

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like. They know I'm reading it and I'm around

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm across it, and if it's anything important, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going Alright.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing I want to add to this, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's something that we actually touched on last week's ask

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<v Speaker 2>on caut You don't have to be friends with people

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be friends with. You don't have

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>to do things that you don't want to do. Right,

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to go on and go to these

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 2>plans if they're doing a group activity. If you're not

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 2>getting anything out of the friendship anymore, that's okay. We

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.959
<v Speaker 2>have phases of life for friendships. But there is a

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<v Speaker 2>kind way to go about it. And like, you may

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 2>not be as close friends with them, but they might

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 2>consider you a really, really good friend. They might care

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 2>about your friendship a lot more than you care about

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the friendship. So think about the impact that you have

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>on people and how you leave them and how you

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.239
<v Speaker 2>manage a relationship. And I just really think ghosting is

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 2>it's such a cruel way to be and it just

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 2>shows and makes people feel as though the relationship never

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>was significant to them or to you in the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in this situation, you can definitely do both.

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to ghost anyone and you can maintain

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>your individual friendships.

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<v Speaker 3>Question number three.

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<v Speaker 1>My ex fiance and I were together for a few

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<v Speaker 1>years in our early twenties, and we were each other's

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>very first love. After a few years of no contact,

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<v Speaker 1>we have remained friendly and kept in touch very ad hoc.

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<v Speaker 1>Just found the updates A happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>Here and there. You get it. Not really. A couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years ago, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Messaged out of the blue after a few years and

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<v Speaker 1>said he had had a daughter.

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<v Speaker 4>His messages were friendly, and he didn't share the daughter's name,

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<v Speaker 4>which seems like a bit of an odder mission. At

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<v Speaker 4>the time, he and I had planned a family and

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<v Speaker 4>we'd named our future kids, so I did wonder if

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 4>he had used our name. He popped up again today

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 4>and curiosity got the better of me, so I jumped

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<v Speaker 4>on in and had a little look sie on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 4>I discovered within ten minutes his daughter's name wasn't borrowed

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 4>from the name that we wanted, but it was my name.

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 4>He called his daughter my name.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that weird?

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Many girls seem to be named after their father's ex girlfriends, crushes,

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>and mistresses. This is something I've discovered since I've been

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>doing a deep dive. Is this it actually a thing?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think this is a thing.

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Many girls seem to be named after their father's ex girlfriends, crushes,

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 2>and mistresses.

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 3>So she went and did a really Yeah, she went

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 3>and did her own research.

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, she went and did She must have gone on

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>read it or something imposed the question, and apparently she

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>found out that a lot of women have been named

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.439
<v Speaker 1>after their father's exes or people in their lives, which

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:49.399
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like some sort of whack Freudian shit right where

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 2>you're like, I still have attachment to this person, it's

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>no longer in my life. So I'm gonna name my

0:34:56.239 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 2>daughter after someone who I had a sexual relatelationship with,

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:02.840
<v Speaker 2>and I still maybe are weird?

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 3>So many levels are weird? Well, I wonder, Okay, surely

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.879
<v Speaker 3>like the name I want need to know the name.

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't copy paste that people are anonymous here, Laura,

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>we take that very seriously. But what I think here

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>is like, if you were together that long and you

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>were such a big part of each other's life, he's

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>now moved on and gotten married and had a kid,

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>his new wife one hundred percent knows who you are,

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.800
<v Speaker 1>which means she's also agreed. Either she knows who you

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>are and she's agreed to call her daughter after his ex,

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 1>or she doesn't know you existed. I have two options.

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it has to be the later. There is

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>no woman on this planet. I mean there probably is,

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 1>but I doubt it they would want that on this planet.

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Who would want to name their child the name of

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>their husband's ex fiance. Ye?

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 2>None ex fiance, there's none. It doesn't exist. Like that's

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>not a real thing. So she must not be aware

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>or separately either what's happened is he's brought up the

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 2>name and being like, hey, let's name the child this,

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 2>which I think that is obviously real, fucking weird. Or

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 2>she has brought up the name so maybe it's a

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 2>common name. Just say your name, I don't know whatever.

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 2>Maybe your name is Brittany and she okay, maybe your

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 2>name's Laura four. So maybe she was one who was like,

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 2>I really like the name Laura. But he's managed to

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.439
<v Speaker 2>get through this far into their relationship and never really

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 2>talked about the fact that he has an ex fiance.

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not this is what I don't get though,

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 1>And this is a whole nother thing twan pack. It's

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>not an ex girlfriend you had from high school. You

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>were going to marry this person. Like, how do people

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>get into a new relationship and not tell their partner

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>that they were engaged or married before them.

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 3>I think it happens.

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it's I mean, it's very difficult to not

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>tell someone that you're married before them, because when you

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 2>actually sign your marriage certificates, you have to outline whether

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 2>you were or weren't married before it's you actually write

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 2>what number marriage it is, and that's like part of

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 2>your registration for your marriage certificates. But if it's just

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>an extent, if it's just an ex fiance, you don't

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>have to disclose that you were ever engaged.

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 3>Like why would you?

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 2>People could have been engaged. I mean, look at Jennifer Lopez.

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 2>She's been engaged more times than to the same person.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>But would you if you found out now this many

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<v Speaker 1>years later, that Matt was engaged and you never knew,

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<v Speaker 1>would you understand that he didn't tell you?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you be pissed off? Because I think I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 3>why did you hide that?

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<v Speaker 2>I would be like, I would be absolutely ropable to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be so unfathomable that I would feel as

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<v Speaker 2>though he had deceived me. Because there's a big difference, right,

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people will say, oh, I didn't lie,

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't tell you. If you emit details so

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<v Speaker 2>that your story is the version of what is the truth,

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 2>If you admit so much of the truth that the

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 2>story is now different, that's a lie, right. Not telling

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>all the details is a lie. Ah, I didn't I

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.959
<v Speaker 2>didn't cheat on you. I just didn't tell you. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a lie.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would feel as though if I was this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we've kind of changed.

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<v Speaker 3>The question now, but it's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>I would feel betrayed if I found out that my

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>husband was and had been engaged before and didn't tell me.

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>He might say, Oh, it's because he felt like it

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<v Speaker 2>was totally insignificant, And maybe it is insignificant to him now.

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that he's kept it a secret because

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 2>he's actually still holding onto this romance with his person,

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 2>or he's pining for her. He might never want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it or never want to like relive that

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 2>moment in life. But I guess the thing is, when

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>you do choose to spend your life with someone, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to know their past to better understand the person

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 2>that they are. Those are pretty critical parts of their

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<v Speaker 2>story that I would want to know.

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I had a friend that was married. She got married

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>quite young. A couple of years later they divorced and

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>split up. Fast forward quite a long time, probably eight years.

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>She met someone else and got engaged, and it came

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<v Speaker 1>up in conversation one day that she hadn't told him

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 1>that she was ever married. And I was like, and

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>this was two years into relations, and I couldn't I

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, what do you mean you've never told him

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>you're married. She's like, oh, just hasn't come up. I

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, that comes up like that, that is a

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>that was a huge part of your life, Like you

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.800
<v Speaker 1>married someone like that means someone meant that much to

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you and you spend all these time together. I couldn't

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>understand it, and I she ended up having to tell

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.240
<v Speaker 1>him because they got married, so for exactly the reasons

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you said.

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 3>But it was a bit of a weird moment where

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.840
<v Speaker 3>he was like, well, how did you not tell me

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 3>you were married?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it does change something. It doesn't change that they

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>want to be with you. It's not that it changes that,

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>but it changes like, wow, you I didn't know that

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you had met someone in your life that you thought

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>could have been forever, like you had that connection and that.

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that you actually gone to the point

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 2>of proposing to someone or saying I do to someone. Yeah,

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel exactly the same as you. I think it's

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>very odd. People do odd things all the time though,

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 2>so nothing surprises me. But in this, going back to

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 2>your specific question around is it strange, Yes, it's very

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 2>strange to me.

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't mean anything. Does it mean anything? Not?

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 2>No, that's the bigger and more important thing. Doesn't mean

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 2>that he's still pining over you, doesn't mean that he's

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 2>still in love with you. I don't think he is

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 2>trying to emulate you in his child, you know, Like

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 2>it's a weird thing that he did. It's a weird

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 2>thing that he chose that name. But I would guarantee

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 2>that he doesn't look at his child and think of you.

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Also, you don't know that his new wife's mum's name's

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>not Lauren. Total names not Lauren, or she has a

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>grandma that was the most important thing during the world

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:11.720
<v Speaker 1>is called Lauren.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, you just don't know the reasons, and I wouldn't be.

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Reading into this like it's obviously got you thinking, and

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're thinking, like what does this mean?

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>But my overarching thought is I have three thoughts. One

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 1>not normal, Two doesn't mean anything. Three controversial. I'd probably

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 1>stop sporadically texting each other. Like if you've both moved

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 1>on and you're married and it was that many years

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>ago and you've had kids, I always wonder, like, what

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 1>are you getting from that?

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 3>What are you getting from every two years? Hey, how

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 3>are you good?

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>That'd be birthday back in Like, you don't need to

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>hear from someone on their birthday both of your lives

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>have moved on.

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I totally agree, I find and I don't know if

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 2>everyone would agree with this.

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure some people don't.

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I find the happy birthday text when you have been

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 2>broken up for years and don't speak to each other

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 2>at all so unnecessary, Like you, you don't need to

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 2>message me and say happy birthday to me if we

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 2>haven't spoken for the rest of the year.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.839
<v Speaker 1>It does nothing except ruin your day because it puts

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that person fuck in your brain, even if you don't

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 1>have feelings for them. You're like, great, so my birthday now,

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking of fuck face, I'm thinking of you

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 1>that messaged like, for no reason, you don't speak to

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>me any other time totally. Do you think I'm gonna

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>have a better day now because you said happy birthday?

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 3>It's so shit.

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.879
<v Speaker 2>It is strange though, when you think about it, it's

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 2>so strange that you can be like, you can mean

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 2>so much to someone and they can mean so much

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:28.919
<v Speaker 2>to you, and you think you're gonna spend your life

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 2>with them, you're engaged to them, you have the names

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 2>of your children chosen, and then they're just completely not

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 2>a part of your life anymore. And it's just so

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 2>weird how you can go from that level of intensity

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 2>to just like.

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 1>But I get it. But I'm going to use this

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 1>as an example. You guys all know Jordan, my ex.

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>There have been moments where, like, he has won a

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>huge tennis match, like he beat Rafael Nadal not that

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>long ago.

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was pre amazing, it's pre impressive. It was amazing.

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>And there was a moment where I picked up my

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 1>phone to message him to say amazing, well done. You

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>should be proud. Then I was like, what's that going

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to do? Like I am proud of him and I

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>am stoked for him, and I've had to stop myself

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>from doing that. And that's not because I have obviously

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 1>any feelings for him or anything like that, but it

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>was someone that I thought I'd spend my life with

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that did something amazing and that made me feel happy.

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:18.919
<v Speaker 3>But you have to think, like, what's the point of

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 3>that contact. It's not going to do anything.

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 1>He'd be like cool, Britney's proud of me, and then

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.320
<v Speaker 1>he'll probably be pissed off that I'm back in his message.

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then what do you do? You exchange a

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 2>few pleasantries and then you go back to your life.

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:30.839
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't it probably wouldn't even write that. Hey, how

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 2>weird would it be if you had a baby though,

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:32.879
<v Speaker 2>and your name to Jordan.

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 4>Imagine like you'd never.

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Do it, Maddie j I'd be okay with that.

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 3>Little mini Maddie. No, that maybe feel awkward.

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 2>If you've got any weird name situations, like I want

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 2>to hear those because they think it interesting.

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:50.879
<v Speaker 3>Not even what are you named after?

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 2>But like did you find out that, like you're named

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 2>after your dad's mistress?

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 3>Who knows?

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.240
<v Speaker 1>How would you feel if like you started dating someone

0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>like you're feel in love and the name was like

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 1>the exact same name of person.

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Break out that has definitely happened to people, right, yeah,

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Or you're dating someone whose name is the same name

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 2>as your brother that's also Dad Terry Byrne imagine that. Okay, anyways,

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 2>moving run along.

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