WEBVTT - REAL REALITY - AUSTRALIAN IDOL - SCOTT TWEEDIE 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.480 TV Reload the podcast past weep that line. Hey guys, 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.560 welcome back to TV Reload. Thank you for clicking and downloading. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.160 On today's episode with Scott Tweety, one of the hosts 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.039 of this year's Astray and Idol, which is back on 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.840 Channel seven. Twenty years after Guy Sebastian Pitch Shannanol to 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:20.200 become Australia's first Idol. The international star making reality TV 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.479 Sensation has returned to Channel seven and seven plus and 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.239 if you aren't watching it, you're certainly missing out because 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:29.479 it is sensational television. It's set to be the toughest 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.120 season yet, with only room for the best of the best. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.440 The judges are looking for a complete package, a singer 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:38.200 with a sound and a style to woo the nation. 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.360 Hosts Ricky Lee and Scott Tweety are also back to 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.839 make their dreams come true and I'm delighted to be 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.040 having Scott back on the podcast. Today we will unpack 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:50.200 why this season is better, why Scott slid into Amy 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.680 Shucks DMS. We will discuss what Jackie Oh and Marshall 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.920 Heinz have in common. Scott will also share, which singer 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.800 has already had millions of views on social media. And 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.320 also we will unpack what to expect in the next 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.560 couple of weeks, plus a little bit of behind the 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.800 scenes goss from Scott on why some contestants failed to 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.920 make it to the next stage. There's so much to 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.240 unpack with Scott and he is really generous with his time. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.800 So sit back and relax as we dive just that 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.800 little bit deeper into the world of Australian Idol. How 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:21.360 are you, buddy? 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.720 You right, I'm good man, So nice to be back 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.520 in the country and I'm loving this season. 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:28.920 It's it's so good to good season. Yeah. 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.440 When we were recording it, I knew there was something 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.320 special in the air with some of the contestants and 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:34.440 I was like, this is going to be great. But 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.040 then when I started to see the edits evolve and 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.480 that twist they put in the audition process just to 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.400 have that cliff hanger at the end of every episode, 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.800 and just good feedback from friends and family. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:45.800 Yeah, but you know, it was so weird. We were 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.280 so excited to see it back last year that we 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.920 were like yes, and that kind of nostalgia was what 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.560 kept us there while this year. I mean, it's kind 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.320 of the Math's antidote, is what I could say to people, 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.200 because I talked a lot of people who watch Freeware 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:05.160 television and it does really feel like you can tell 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.720 someone's personality based on if they're an idle person or 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:09.920 if they're a maths person. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.520 He put me through these personality traits. What's it come 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:13.920 down to? 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.160 At the core of it, what Australian idol is is 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.240 somebody who wants to watch people succeed, while Maths is 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.880 a type of personality that wants to watch people fail. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.240 I think that's that's a basic read of it. 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.520 I mean, if we can have all the people there 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.120 cheering and supporting on the winners, bring them over to 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.160 our side all day every day. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.800 Mind you, I love both personality types. I don't want 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.600 to I don't want to shade anyone here. I think 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.120 that we need, the world needs both of those sorts 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:40.560 of people. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.960 I've got many friends and many family members that watch Maths. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.919 All right, so I go, that's cool. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.080 But as soon as you flip that channel over to us, 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.200 you're going to see why it's a piece of magic, 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.840 And yeah, it's it's a really special show to be 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.560 working on and for a second time around, for me 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.280 and for Ricky and a lot of the team, it 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.680 just feels like we learned a lot first time round 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.880 and we were like, Okay, this is a modern version 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:06.480 of Idol. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.600 Now what do you want to keep? What do you 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:09.240 want to change? 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.720 And that's the beauty of going again and every time 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.600 you can refine a show and refine a format. Also 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.920 amazing for Fremantle to let us change the format of 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.320 what is a global show. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.000 Idle around the world has a set format. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.240 Eureka Channel seven and Freemantle We're like, let's shake it 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:27.920 up down Under and then let us do it. 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:29.360 So that's been magical as well. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.280 Well, you kind of needed to, I mean, when you 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.440 need to level up, you know, that's what happens. Does 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.080 this feel more like Astray and Idol to you than 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:37.680 last year? 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.480 It does? It does for many reasons. 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:48.600 But there's so much Australiana to the contestants, to their stories, 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.800 to the level of talent that they're bringing to the table. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.160 Because you've got to remember, I live in la and 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.840 I'm very ingrained in the music industry over there as well, 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.280 and I just see how much respect there is for 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:05.320 Australian musicians, Australian produces, Australian artists, Australian creatives in general. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.320 So it's so good to see that translating on a 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.640 reality show which is within our own backyard. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.080 And it's like, this is what I'm talking about, this 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:13.520 is it. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.800 And you're seeing that through the clips on TikTok now 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:21.719 of people watching some of the contestants sing and they're like, yep, 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.479 I mean, Ripley has gone viral around the. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:25.039 World, viral. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:29.440 He's massive in the Philippines. Now they love him. 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:33.360 I love him after just one audition. So it makes 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.520 me just really proud. It makes you really proud because 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.760 from the very top to the very bottom of the production, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:40.360 everyone's on the same team. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:41.960 Well, I want to talk about Ripley in a second, 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.400 but I want to talk about the judging panels chemistry. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.039 This year, what seemed to have been a really good 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:52.719 idea by having these big American or global names attached 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.040 to the show didn't seem to work in a way 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.880 in hindsight. Really. I mean, it looked fine last year, 0:04:57.920 --> 0:04:59.799 and it was very glossy and it was very exciting, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:05.720 but then when you see Australians judging our Australian talent. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:07.400 It just fits better. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:08.120 I thought it was. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.400 I did think it was a really good season last year. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.680 Maybe it was because my first and it. 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.480 Was exciting for you. I watched, I went and watched 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.800 you do some live episodes, and there's nothing better than 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.679 watching someone who's very good at what they do doing 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.680 what they do. And I thought you looked like a 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.200 kid in a candy store loving it. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.159 I walk get it and I'm like, yeah. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.800 But Ricky and I have this magical moment where you 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.520 fist pump before we go like a few seconds walking 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.440 out there with the crowd screaming, and we're just like, 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:35.200 how good to that job? 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.840 But this is it. We get to facilitate this. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.599 So what you were saying with the judges, look, I 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.599 think people do agree with that, and I did like 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.200 having the American point of view there. But I do 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:50.880 feel now after starting this season with an all Australian lineup, and. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.480 That just that Marsha Gold. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:58.120 It's that care, it's that wisdom, it's that pace and 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:58.679 the way. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.800 She talks, you know, started saying you're welcome to people 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.640 when it's not even needed, you know, how she does that, 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.600 She's you're welcome, and you're like, it's just so deep 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.960 and it's so meaningful. And so I started doing that 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.560 just in random conversations because talking to Marshall last week, 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.600 she was so gracious and so humble and so acknowledging 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.000 of other people. And I feel like we need that 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.200 more in our life. But I might have taken it 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:21.560 too far. 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.480 No, I keep going, get it out there. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:24.640 You're welcome. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:30.320 From like the husky heart. Seeing that chemistry. Her and 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.279 Carle know each other very well. They have the amount 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:34.200 of respect for each other. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.240 Yeah, then bringing Amy in as well, Like Amy's just 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.160 grown to another level. I was watching some of her 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.919 stuff on camera this season, just going and I DMed 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.560 her going, Amy, You're on fire, Like, keep doing doing 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.839 it because it's working well. Like the three of them, 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.200 they're just weaving in and out. What I think it 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.320 is is as a view are because I love working 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.200 on it as the host, and then I'm watching it 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:55.400 right now as it rolls out. 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:56.520 It just glides. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.040 It's not that you don't feel like, oh, it's Judge's 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.360 time now, it's just the series is gliding through and 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:07.440 by having them there as experts, but then also letting 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.120 some people down who kind of aren't the greatest singers, 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:10.960 and should it be on the. 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.640 Shape We want that though, like the that's what's missing 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.360 from shows these days. We want you want people to 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.480 to try, and you want people to be deluded because 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.440 we are that. Do you know what I mean? Like 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:26.040 we as people are that. We have ideas of grand 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.280 delusion of becoming Mariah Carey, you know what I mean? 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.760 Like we we all have that inside us. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.120 So now our bathrooms make us sound like that? 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.160 The reburb what's your bathroom look like? I do not 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.080 sound like Mariah carry sing. 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:45.160 Harder, harder, louder and it works. Okay? Can you sing 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:46.120 not at all? 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.800 To be fair, an effort and found the right range, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:54.800 could belt out a good song. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.080 I think you'd be greater than karaoke booth. 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.240 I can invest in that time and energy. Yet no, I. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.000 Think because you're this is going to sound like and 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.040 people listening to the podcast will be like, oh my god, Ben, 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.720 you're insane. I think because you're so good looking, I 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.080 think people would forgive you for having not quite the best. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.080 Excuse. Ben, it's not an excuse. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.920 Once again, just get into that bathroom and let the 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.080 reverb happen, and that's where the magic happens. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.800 What I feel sorry for some of the contestants. My 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.560 family's honest, so I sing, they go, nah, don't do that. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.560 Some people, you know, they've been bigged up all their 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.240 lives for years and years, and their parents are so 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.640 proud of who their children are, and they're happy for 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.240 them to be individuals and put themselves out there at 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.600 the family Christmas party sing and of course they're happy, 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:43.280 but it's that embarrassing moment where they haven't experimented anywhere. 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.600 Else other than like their home and within their loved ones. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.760 So then come on National TV and do it for 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:48.400 the first time. 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.920 That's when I'm like, oh, we've all been at a 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.920 Christmas party where someone in the family's gotten up and 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.760 sung and it's been really shit, and like you're just 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.880 standing there going holding your Christmas bombonds be like, oh God, 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.000 when will this end? And that's why Kyle Sandalans works 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.040 so well on this show, because I think there's a 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:07.959 small part of all of us as well that want 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.120 to stand up at the Christmas party and say your shit, 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:12.400 don't don't give up. 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.920 Your day job, get out of here. Stop. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.360 That's fun so far. Mate, was when Kyle just started 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.000 going like just just the dumb and dumb an nooise 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.000 that Jim Carrey does in that film, just because the 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.320 sound of the person singing was the most annoying sound 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:28.760 in the world. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.760 It's correct, It is great, and I back him up 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.960 ninety two percent of the time to say the loose 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.800 eight percent not evolved. But yeah, it's great. It's great 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.600 to have him there. And he does care about this show, 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.120 and that's the thing. All three of them care a 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.000 lot about this show and what we produce out of it, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:49.880 which is a great thing. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:50.679 And you can see it. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.120 He's soft of this year. And I want to know. 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.760 I mean, every day, I'm always thinking this. I'd love 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.080 to just be there listening to you and Ricky having 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.840 the conversation on the sideline and knowing what you think. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.480 But what were you and Ricky saying about Kyle this 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.840 time around because he is softer? Did you have theories 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.320 like maybe Harry Conic Junior's not there and he was 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:13.040 an asshole or I mean not that one, but maybe 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.320 he's a dad and that's what softened him. What did 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:16.680 you and Ricky have to say about that. 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.160 Definitely softer, but I think it's the word soft isn't 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:24.520 the right word. It's more he's more passionate about seeing 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.840 these singers succeed this season. And I think when he 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.679 does be brutally honest, there's only one person I feel 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.600 that can really pull him back. Two people Jackie o 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.720 Marsha Heinz Yeah or understand his way of thinking and 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.680 understand how to operate and bounce with him. And Amy 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.839 Shark's getting very good at it, but she's still the cheeky. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.000 Voice from the rest of Australia going laughing at him. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.120 You can't say that and are you serious? 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.800 So you know why that works like that? I mean, 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.800 I think that the reason why it works like that 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.800 you have to love Kyle and you have to know him, 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.199 and I think if you don't like him, he's at 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.199 his worst, do you know what I mean? Like And 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.040 there was a lot of conversations about him and Harry 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:06.760 and I kind of made a joke about it before, 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.240 But I know Kyle and when he's in a room 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.880 with someone he doesn't gel with, it's like he has 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.719 he wastes too much time sort of thinking about that 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.040 and not just being himself. So when you see someone 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.560 like Marsha or Jackie Oh with him and they elevate him, 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.320 that's where he's fantastic. 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.600 You know, whatever the formula is, he's soaring right now. 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.840 And so you can't get to the live shows because 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:32.920 we kind of edit him in the live shows, as 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.800 you know, so it'll be interesting to see where he 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:35.640 takes it from there. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:36.560 That's why people. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.960 Watch the show though, Like, that's why we're spending so 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.440 much money on Idol being back and being live, because 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.800 we get to see people being raw and unedited. And 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.760 in the world of television these days where everything's pre recorded, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.719 Australian Idol is fantastic and it's amazing because of that. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.360 I cannot wait for the live shows. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.880 Same it's so competitive this year that he has to 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.920 up being more harsh soon because they're all great. We're 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.440 going to have well, really good singers, and so he's 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.800 got to nitpick out like, nah, wasn't a good week 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:08.400 for you? 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.640 You got to lift? Why doing this? Why doing that? 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.439 And he comes He is an expert of pop culture, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.000 whether you like him or not. He has been living 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.800 and breathing it for longer than most of us because 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.600 that's his job and that's why he has a huge 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:21.480 radio contract. 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.400 What I was going to also say was it feels 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.959 like not everyone's going to get along this year, where 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.000 last year, you know, I was there and I met 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.520 them all and it felt like you were watching kids 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.640 at summer camp that were all getting along. It felt 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:38.400 very Disney Channel time. And that's okay too. But if 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.240 we all remember Australian Idle when the first season happens, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.720 I might be wrong in saying this, but we always 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.200 felt like Cossima was going to cut a bitch, do you. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:46.679 Know what I mean? 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.120 Like if you remember with her with Guy Sebastian and Shannano, 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.680 she would have run those blokes over with her car. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.440 And that's what you need in the industry, you know. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.880 Yeah, there's individuals that already understand the game right now 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.360 and understand the industry, and they want it. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.040 More than everyone else, and they'll do whatever it takes. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.160 And you're going to see that Top thirty week was 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.920 a great example where you've got Shane Bouchet who got 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.840 knocked out last year first round, so she's got this 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.440 like second chance card and you know they have an 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.640 option to stay up late, learn a song or go 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:18.440 to bed and get sleep. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.000 And she's like, I'm honestly not here to f spiders. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.240 I want to win this thing, so let's go, and 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.559 was drilling the other two Gab and TJ to go, Nah, 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:27.760 this is my shot. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:29.199 I don't only get one more. 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.439 I don't like you don't normally don't get second chances, 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:32.839 but this is my second chance. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.400 I'm going for it. So yeah, there's great reality TV 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:37.200 coming as well. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.480 Need tenacious people, we need ambitious people like I mean, 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.040 we don't all need to be amm Rossiano, but and 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.319 that's what this industry is. You aren't going to survive 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.960 the scott You know that yourself from just being a presenter. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.720 If you want to stay in this industry, you have 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.240 to be ruthless to a certain extent. You have to 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.679 have the talent, but you have to be ambitious. And 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:59.480 there's so many other words that I could use, but 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.719 you know what I'm saying. I feel like Jonathan is 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.000 a bit of a personality pick. You know, Jonathan's gotten 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.600 through and yes he can sing, but there's the whole 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.160 package thing going on there with him. Do you think 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.199 that we're getting people through this year? That are a 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.520 little bit more accessible in regards to maybe charisma and 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.360 to sort of make the show more meaty once we 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:25.680 get to those singing moments, because last year everyone could sing, 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.280 and they could get up there and they could sing, 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.040 but what we were missing was the engagement of a 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.600 Rob Mills. And forgive me for keep going back to 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.280 the first season of Idol, but I do feel like 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:37.280 that is the blueprint. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.440 Yeah, we are looking for the entire package. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.800 We've said that from day dot from this season, and 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.840 so some of the viewers are like, well, this single 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:47.440 was better than this thing, but it's like, yeah, but 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.520 when the cameras aren't rolling, or when they are rolling 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:54.160 but they're not singing on stage, we need that rock star, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.240 pop star pizzaz from them. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:56.920 We want. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.680 I want to take them out as my plus one 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:02.160 two events in Sydney and have people intrigued by them 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.320 and be like, well, who is this person? I want 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:05.080 to get to know them? 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:08.080 Are they cool? Are they an asshole? Are they a diva? 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.320 All of that, And that's what being you know, having 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.440 that X factor is all about. So that's part of it, 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.640 and we are so honest with that. So, yeah, Jonathan 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.200 is a character. He can sing and dance, but there's 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.280 something about him where we're like, we can't let him 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:23.640 go because he's going to do. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.240 Something on camera that we want to see and we 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.520 want Australia to see it, but. 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.560 It's also for the viewer at home. We want to 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.680 see ourselves. So if you remember watching any of these 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.520 talent shows when they first came about, people wanted to 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.160 be these people. They didn't just want to hear them sing. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.200 They wanted to meet them at a bar, you know 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.200 what I mean. They wanted them to be their best friend. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.760 And that's that's a huge part of television. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.080 Couldn't agree more and that's what we're getting. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.520 We've got thirty of them getting shopped to twenty one 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:50.040 right now. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.280 I know once we tighten it even. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.840 More to the twelve, we've got a long time now 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.520 as viewers to get to know these people inside and out. 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.200 So you'll know their backstories, yes, but then you start 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.040 to see week in week out what they're doing and 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.840 what's happening, and if they get up to mischief or 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:08.000 if they go viral again on TikTok or all that 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:09.760 sort of stuff is going to be fed into the show. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.320 So that's what like the core essence of Idol's about, 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.720 and that's what is really important. I think that's why 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.480 you're enjoying this new season. I'm enjoying this new season, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.000 and I think it's going to get better and better 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:19.800 the more we watch it. 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:21.800 I couldn't wait to talk to you. I was like, 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.400 this is so exciting to talk about this series. Like 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.520 the series is so good, and I'm remembering people's names, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.400 and like even just the other week, someone said, oh, 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.240 Amy and Kobe and Dylan, they get paired together in 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.120 a challenge and they're going to see Natalie and Brullly 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.200 as torn and I was like, I have to watch that. 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.200 That's a point in television, do you know what I mean? Like, 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.480 I want to watch those people get up and sing 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.760 like that. I don't want to watch it on catch up. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.240 I don't need to watch it live. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.400 And that's a strategy of how we've done those first episodes, 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.200 because it kept looping back into them. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:54.280 The contestants are the rock stars. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.720 I think last season there was a lot of attention 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.760 on these international judges, and it kept coming back to 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:00.520 the judges. 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.400 But it's like, it's not about the judges. 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.760 It's about the contestants, it's about the Australian characters and 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:07.560 that's working for us right now. 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.440 Yeah, it's about the singing capability. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:09.760 You know. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.600 Just before I move away from that song torn being 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.199 sung you song? Do you think songs that are super 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.280 recognizable can hurt a singer in a way because maybe 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.680 an uneducated audience member might expect it to be sung 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:23.919 like the original artist on that I think. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.159 It's a double edged sword. I think you need to 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.680