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Speaker 1: It is just on half past nine, and look, we've

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Speaker 1: be aware, Black Friday sales it seems to be something

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Speaker 1: that's really sort of come to popularity, I think over

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Speaker 1: the last few years. But I've been receiving a lot

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Speaker 1: of emails from different businesses saying we've got these sales

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Speaker 1: is tomorrow obviously, but also in terms of the leading

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Speaker 1: to Christmas. Now joining me in the studio right now

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Speaker 1: is Nadine Caufield, who is Senior Constable with the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory Police Cyber Crime Unit. Good morning to you, Nadein.

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Speaker 1: Good morning Katie, Thanks so much for your time. Now

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Speaker 1: we know that Black Friday is obviously upon us and

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Speaker 1: Christmas isn't too far away. It is really a time

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Speaker 1: where there's lots of people shopping in various different ways.

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Speaker 1: But I would assume that there's probably quite a few

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Speaker 1: people trying to take advantage of people online as well.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, we will see an increase of online

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Speaker 2: shopping online sales because of Black Friday, Christmas coming up,

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Speaker 2: and we're seeing that people are tending to go towards

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Speaker 2: online shopping with a pandemic as well.

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Speaker 1: And so with that, do you find that because there

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Speaker 1: are so many people that are online and doing shopping,

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Speaker 1: and obviously we'd always encourage people to support local, but

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Speaker 1: there are still those heading online. Do you then see

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Speaker 1: that increase in scam it's trying to you know, trying

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Speaker 1: to pray on them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Unfortunately, it can show that there is also

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Speaker 2: an increase of people being scammed from trying to purchase

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Speaker 2: things online. That is likely to happen. That scamming will

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Speaker 2: increase as online sales increase. So we're just trying to

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Speaker 2: make people aware of what's happening out there in the

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Speaker 2: online world and give them some tips on what they

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Speaker 2: can do to prevent themselves becoming a victim of a scam.

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Speaker 1: And what are some of the things that we can

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Speaker 1: ourselves and we don't end up getting scammed throughout these sales.

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Speaker 2: First and foremost, trust your instincts. Check the seller. So

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Speaker 2: whether you're purchasing from an online website or you're purchasing

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Speaker 2: from a social media marketplace, check the seller, do your

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Speaker 2: research on the seller. You could just do a quick

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Speaker 2: Google search on the seller's name or the site's name,

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Speaker 2: and you'll be amazed to see how much comes up.

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Speaker 1: Just doing that.

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Speaker 2: The same if you're purchasing on a social media marketplace site,

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Speaker 2: research the seller, look.

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Speaker 1: For customer reviews as well. Check on customer reviews and

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Speaker 1: see what's being said out there about that seller. And

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming as well that sometimes you sort of get

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Speaker 1: those emails from a store that you might like and

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Speaker 1: they say, oh, we're having this sale, we're doing this

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Speaker 1: kind of discount. But you know, I'm assuming as well,

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Speaker 1: based on some of the discussions that we've had when

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Speaker 1: it comes to cybercrime previously, that it may be a

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Speaker 1: situation in some cases where some of those people that

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Speaker 1: are looking to pray on you know, on shoppers, are

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Speaker 1: able to almost replicate the business that you're thinking that

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Speaker 1: you're buying from, and they're actually not the legitimate.

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Speaker 2: Business, right, that's right. There is a lot of copycat

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Speaker 2: sites out there that appear to be just like the

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Speaker 2: real the legitimate site. So one tip would be if

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Speaker 2: you receive a text message or an email. Don't click

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Speaker 2: on the link. If you think that that seller is

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Speaker 2: having a great sale, just go directly to their website.

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Speaker 2: So type it in the URL, type in the website

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Speaker 2: name instead of clicking on link. That can certainly prevent

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Speaker 2: you from being forwarded to a fake site.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Adine, do we find that here in the

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Speaker 1: Are we impacted? Are we you know, do we have

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Speaker 1: territories that are being scammed? I do.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately it is on the increase. We're seeing a lot

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Speaker 2: more people reporting that they have been scams or perhaps

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Speaker 2: there's been an attempted scam yep. So we do encourage

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Speaker 2: people to report it. If you think you've been scammed,

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Speaker 2: please make that report. You can report it on cyber

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Speaker 2: dot gov dot au, which is the Australian Cybersecurity Center website.

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Speaker 1: And even then, come Christmas time, I know that that's

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Speaker 1: maybe spend a little bit more money than what we

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Speaker 1: kids or for family members that are bigger ticket items

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Speaker 1: that you can't get locally. And I suppose is there

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Speaker 1: would be nothing worse than, you know, spending your heart

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Speaker 2: That's right, and that is happening. We do have reports

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Speaker 2: being made of exactly that happening. They've spent all the

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Speaker 2: Christmas money online, They've been scammed, they've lost the money again.

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Speaker 2: It's about being really vigilant doing your checks online. Don't

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Speaker 2: trust anyone, do your homework. Yeah, good advice, good advice.

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Speaker 2: I reckon well.

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Speaker 1: Nadine Corfield, Senior Constable with the Northern Territory Police Cybercrime Unit.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time this morning. Thanks for having

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Speaker 1: chat with me, baby. Thank you