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Speaker 1: It is mixed one O four point nine.

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Speaker 2: It is just on ten twenty. Now. You would have

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Speaker 2: heard us mentioned on the show yesterday that the Country

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Speaker 2: Liberal Party's Northern Territory Senator Sam McMahon, Well, she is

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Speaker 2: still pushing for the Territory Rights Bill and it calls

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Speaker 2: obviously to restore the rights of the Northern Territory government

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Speaker 2: to legislate on euthanasia. As I understand it, it was

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Speaker 2: brought to the Senate yesterday and joining me on the

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Speaker 2: line right now is Senator Sam McMahon. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good morning Katy, and good morning to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: And what a fantastic day yesterday was for the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm just so proud for territory.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened talk us through at Senator.

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Speaker 1: So basically my bill was listed for debate last Monday,

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Speaker 1: but got pushed off the listen y by Pauline Hanson.

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Speaker 1: As we know we spoke about. Yeah, Now, Labor very

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Speaker 1: kindly they had a spot yesterday morning for their private

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Speaker 1: Senator's bill, and they very kind gave that spot to

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Speaker 1: me in recognition of the work that I've done and

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Speaker 1: the importance of this bill to the Northern territory.

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Speaker 2: Well that I mean, it's not often that you see

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Speaker 2: politics put to the side for what is the right

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Speaker 2: thing for the Northern territory. But this is a good

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Speaker 2: thing that that happened yesterday, Senator. What unfolded after you

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Speaker 2: obviously brought that to the Parliament and where to next?

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Speaker 1: Yes, So yeah, it was a great show of true bipartisanship.

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Speaker 1: So what happened is we had the debate on the bill.

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Speaker 1: So I Spy was a lead speaker for the Government

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Speaker 1: on the bill and there were several other speakers, mostly

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Speaker 1: very supportive of it. There was support from the Greens,

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Speaker 1: there was support from Labor, and there was support from

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Speaker 1: Rex Patrick. So that was debated until we ran out

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Speaker 1: of the allocated time spot and now it's on the

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Speaker 1: paper to be for the debate to be continued. The

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Speaker 1: debate will be continued obviously next year when Parliament hits again.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the first step has happened, Senator, what do

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Speaker 2: you reckon what's going to happen from here? Is it

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Speaker 1: Well, Katie, I'm very very hopeful that it will. Look

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Speaker 1: Labor stated yesterday that they are going to give their

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Speaker 1: senators a conscience vote, which is fantastic. So obviously that

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Speaker 1: means that those who support it can vote for it

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Speaker 1: and those who don't can vote against. That's a fantastic

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Speaker 1: outcome for them to say that. It doesn't happen very often,

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Speaker 1: so that's great. So if we get a conscience vote,

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Speaker 1: I am very very confident that we'll get this through.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I know that it's something that the territories

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Speaker 2: have been fighting for for an awfully long time. Can

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Speaker 2: you just explain to our listeners if they've maybe not

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Speaker 2: been hearing our conversations over recent months, what exactly is

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Speaker 2: going to be included in this bell.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Katie. Included in this bill is basically just handing

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory government the Legislative Assembly. It's handing the

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Speaker 1: Legislative Assembly back the right to enact laws relating to

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Speaker 1: voluntary assisted dying, should they decide to do so so.

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Speaker 2: Then they'll obviously have the opportunity to vote, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I see whether this gets through. If it gets to

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Speaker 2: that point, that's right.

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Speaker 1: It gives a territory the right to make its own

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Speaker 1: laws for its own people around voluntary assisted dying, a

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Speaker 1: right that all of the states have. All of the

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Speaker 1: states have either enacted laws or considering laws, and that's

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Speaker 1: the right that was stripped away from us twenty four

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Speaker 1: years ago, and this will give us back that right

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Speaker 1: to legislate for ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Well, Senator Sam McMahon, hopefully we'll know early next year.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon, I.

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Speaker 1: Reckon, so Okatie, I'm very very hopeful. Yeah, this has

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Speaker 1: been great. This has been a long journey and a

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Speaker 1: hard journey, and I'm very very pleased with what happened yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, you aren't going to be running, you know, you're

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Speaker 2: not going to be the COLP senator come next election.

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Speaker 2: Is are you hoping that this is going to be

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Speaker 2: your legacy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Katy, I'm not hoping it's going to be my legacy.

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Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that I have enough time to get

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Speaker 1: it through, to see it through to the finish, and

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Speaker 1: to get it done because the reality is this bill

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Speaker 1: will die when I leave.

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Speaker 2: Well, Senator Sam McMahon, please keep us up to date,

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Speaker 2: keep us in the loop, and let us know how

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Speaker 2: things progress. Absolutely, thank you, thank you, thanks for your

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Speaker 2: time this morning.