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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hellolol, welcome to the Flex and From show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, do you know what that is? And

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<v Speaker 2>I say it, yes, you actually do TikTok? Oh my god? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what do we do with friends who cancel plans? And

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<v Speaker 2>I know what you're thinking. I've already seen Barbie and

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<v Speaker 2>I also thought it was redacted. There's an Ai Barbie

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<v Speaker 2>BuzzFeed debarkol necessarily related to the movie, but it's a promotional.

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<v Speaker 1>It is definitely related. Here's a podcast related. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cat what happens flex when men want to date

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<v Speaker 2>younger women.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a rhetorical question. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on TikTok the other day, ob VI, and

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<v Speaker 2>I came across a creator. He was standing in a forest,

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<v Speaker 2>actually quite perfectly discussing how older men like younger women

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<v Speaker 2>not only damages younger women and older women, but also

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<v Speaker 2>the men who choose to play out this stereo type.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to play a grab. It's a bit long,

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<v Speaker 2>so take a date. Breathin Mickey places.

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<v Speaker 1>By the type.

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<v Speaker 3>Men have this idea that very young women. Basically, children

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<v Speaker 3>are the epitome of attractiveness, shove down our throats so

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<v Speaker 3>hard that most guys never learn to see past it,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's obviously super harmful to women in tons of ways.

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<v Speaker 3>In the same way that I am less mature than

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<v Speaker 3>a seventy year old as a thirty eight year old man,

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<v Speaker 3>a twenty three year old is just a lot less

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<v Speaker 3>mature than I am. That's no critique of them. They're

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<v Speaker 3>doing exactly what they're supposed to be doing. When we

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<v Speaker 3>as men continue to romantically and sexually idealize women who

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<v Speaker 3>are not fully grown or mature by the standards of

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<v Speaker 3>our own age, that becomes very dangerous. We're now trying

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<v Speaker 3>to attract partners who are at a totally different life stage,

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<v Speaker 3>one which is inherently selfish, often insecure, and kind of performative.

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<v Speaker 3>And because we've idealized people in those life stages as partners,

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<v Speaker 3>we become much more likely to behave and try to

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<v Speaker 3>behave like teenagers or men in our early twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>When it's said like that does the same that revolutionary,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, but it did have me hit for

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<v Speaker 2>six as having been put on quite a younger woman

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<v Speaker 2>there is a phenomenon if you've not been in my position,

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<v Speaker 2>where you assume that you are just really mature, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's only when you.

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<v Speaker 4>We could poll every woman in this building and we

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<v Speaker 4>get one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I've lived that. I've lived that life.

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<v Speaker 2>It only has been since me growing into the ages

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<v Speaker 2>that are above the age of the men that I

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<v Speaker 2>was dating. I've finally just clocked one of them that

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<v Speaker 2>I dated, and now I'm older than him, that I realize

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<v Speaker 2>the absurdity of wanting to date someone so much younger

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<v Speaker 2>than me. It's easy when you're like in the future to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be like, why did I do that? That's so random.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand now that I do really believe that women

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<v Speaker 2>mature earlier than men. I don't know, however, and especially

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<v Speaker 2>after watching this video, how much of that is like

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<v Speaker 2>learned helplessness on the behalf of men, or if it

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<v Speaker 2>really is like a developmental thing. I'm not sure, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Any neuroscientists in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, please human get him on speed dial. It is

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<v Speaker 2>interesting because I always think the people that cop the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest fall out of this is women who are a

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<v Speaker 2>bit older. I imagine, oh, you're in your thirties, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually the time you want to meet someone, But

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<v Speaker 2>all the guys your age that are appropriate are going

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<v Speaker 2>for younger women.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that does happen, but.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea that it is negative towards men, as we know,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to think about men quite a bit, how

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<v Speaker 2>they're feeling. I never thought that this would be something

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<v Speaker 2>that would actually adversely affect them.

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<v Speaker 4>Which I think is the problem with a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>cultural conversations that position men the same men who made capitalism,

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<v Speaker 4>the same men who made communism, the same men who

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<v Speaker 4>made socialism, the same men who made racism. They don't

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<v Speaker 4>have the wherewithal to comprehend basic life stuff. The way

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<v Speaker 4>that society encourages us to infantilize men and their understanding

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<v Speaker 4>of their place in the world is exactly this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all getting infantalized.

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<v Speaker 4>We're all getting infantalized, but we have to be both

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<v Speaker 4>baby and mum at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>And this brings us back to what Freud.

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<v Speaker 4>Was saying to real woman's work, talking about menstrual cycles

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<v Speaker 4>and not in a crass way. Okay, in the same

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<v Speaker 4>way you understand hay fever during springtime.

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<v Speaker 1>And also testosterone.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, you understand chemicals, neurotransmitters. You should understand a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more about the mentual cycles. So what we talked

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<v Speaker 4>about briefly a couple of months ago is referring to

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<v Speaker 4>our cycles in binaries. We've got the flop and we've

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<v Speaker 4>got the sleigh. The flop is always when you're menstruating.

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<v Speaker 4>And mind you, if this does not resonate, this is

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<v Speaker 4>someone with a very average cycle twenty eight days, like clockwork,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got endometriosis. Pcos. It's not for you, but everyone

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<v Speaker 4>can listen, tune in, please, So mensuation generally a flop ovulation,

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<v Speaker 4>generally a sleigh for loquila.

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<v Speaker 1>Slag, sleigh, premntal, prelop. Yeah, flop.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's good to know because I think for a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people they regard the arrival of their flop

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<v Speaker 4>era as a bit of a surprise. Oh that's why

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<v Speaker 4>I was in a bad mood. Oh that's why I

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<v Speaker 4>was cramping. Oh that's why my nip pulls a tender

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>I could easily go number two.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally, that's why I was coming out of me. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I said, it wasn't gonna be crashed. It's not crass, Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been crass in my life. The thing about

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<v Speaker 4>this is understanding your cycle should be bare minimum. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna shame you, but I do think that this

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<v Speaker 4>bare minimum knowledge would change your life and improve it

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<v Speaker 4>in ways that you are not ready to truly understand.

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<v Speaker 4>And so what I've been trying to incorporate into my

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<v Speaker 4>life is cycle sinking, and so the practice of tracking

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<v Speaker 4>your menstrual cycle and structuring certain elements of your life

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<v Speaker 4>around it. I referenced this book by Lucy Peach called

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<v Speaker 4>Period Queen, and it's all about your menstrual cycle and

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<v Speaker 4>everything you need to know. Instead of using the flop

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<v Speaker 4>era of slagh era terminology, she talks about how you

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<v Speaker 4>should navigate your life during your cycle. So, when you

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<v Speaker 4>are menstruating, that's a good time to just like dream,

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<v Speaker 4>she says, So it's a good time to think ID eight, brainstorm,

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<v Speaker 4>don't push yourself to do stuff. It's really when you

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<v Speaker 4>should be winding down, babes. Your uterine lining is shedding,

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<v Speaker 4>like there's bloodshed happening in your homb This is not

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<v Speaker 4>the time to be hind That's exactly it. And then ovulation, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>it's when you're feeling the best. It's when you're looking

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<v Speaker 4>your best. It's when you really should be getting up

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<v Speaker 4>and at them today. Everyone happy, Ovulation. I feel as

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<v Speaker 4>though where I've been integrating cycles, where it's been really

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<v Speaker 4>helping is professionally. This might not work for everyone, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's where I find it most reasonable because it's the

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<v Speaker 4>only part of my life that's actually structured. So what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to do is like in Flop era menstruating.

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<v Speaker 1>No photo shoots.

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<v Speaker 4>Why are we doing that? No photo shoots. Let's not

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<v Speaker 4>do the big hosting gigs. Let's not do the dejaying things.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's not do things to Let's not do things we

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<v Speaker 4>have to show up and pretend like I feel good,

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm not like literally cramping and in fetal position

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<v Speaker 4>if I was at home right Ovulation. When I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>and feeling my best, Hello, that's when we can do

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<v Speaker 4>these gigs. The issues fact about get out. I got

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<v Speaker 4>energy pre flop take it seriously. When you feel your

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<v Speaker 4>energy going down, don't try and find it. This is

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<v Speaker 4>when you start preparing for the reality that I'm be

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<v Speaker 4>out and not out physically but out mentally. So let's

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<v Speaker 4>start getting the brainstorming in now. Yep, let's get the

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<v Speaker 4>coach please, yes, get the meal prep stuff, get the

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<v Speaker 4>snacks in, a bit of ice cream, that whatever you

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<v Speaker 4>need to be doing. But what I would recommend is

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<v Speaker 4>if you are someone who menstruates and you're someone who

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<v Speaker 4>wants to take a bit more control of their life,

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<v Speaker 4>definitely google cycle sinking. We haven't even scratched the surface,

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<v Speaker 4>and I can already tell it's gonna be life changing

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<v Speaker 4>for the girlies. And then next step is well domination,

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<v Speaker 4>when we start to change the corporate industry by operating

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<v Speaker 4>on woman's cycle, because we all know the eight hour

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<v Speaker 4>day is based on a man's hormonal cycle, and it

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<v Speaker 4>does not work for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work for me. Am I, am I the asshole?

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<v Speaker 2>We have an m id asshole. I know what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single media publication in Australia and all the world

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<v Speaker 2>does am I the asseholes. But the difference with Flex

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<v Speaker 2>and Friends is we did it first May twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say we were at the forefront. And also we bring.

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<v Speaker 2>To it a certain jennes SECOI oh that is never

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<v Speaker 2>before seen. This was sent in by a woman called Caroline. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't am I the usehole question to submit. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a close friend who has formed a habit over

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<v Speaker 2>the years of canceling on plans on the day of them,

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<v Speaker 2>always starting anxiety as the reason. Oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always so understanding and supportive, even when the cancelation tends

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<v Speaker 2>to ruin my night and I end up missing out

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<v Speaker 2>on alternative arrangements.

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<v Speaker 1>My blood pressure is arising right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Flex.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm skeptical of this person's excuses for anxiety because whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I have messaged her offering her something in brackets, giving

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<v Speaker 2>her some furniture, or offering something she can benefit from,

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<v Speaker 2>she has no anxiety and will be.

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<v Speaker 1>At my door immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>However, when it comes to sticking to plans, she pulls

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<v Speaker 2>a mental health card. Oh she really got put a

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<v Speaker 2>whole books into this one. I've had enough. Last week

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<v Speaker 2>we were meant to catch up after many failed attempts,

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<v Speaker 2>and her boyfriend ended up messaging me canceling on her behalf.

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<v Speaker 4>That is something else.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, absolutely no. I messaged her directly telling her

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<v Speaker 2>that her consistent canceling is actually selfish and poor form,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, look, I've been patient to understanding with

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<v Speaker 2>your needs and anxieties for a very long time. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>what about my needs? I really like how this chick writes.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like she's having a combo. Good inn it

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<v Speaker 2>for further context. I've been going through a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>myself and a heartbreak. Oh I really you need my

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<v Speaker 2>loved ones to show up for me, girl, I've been here.

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<v Speaker 2>My message her was quite direct, which we love her

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<v Speaker 2>at the Flex and Firm show, and I told her

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<v Speaker 2>that sometimes even if you have a bit of anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>you just need to show up for your loved ones preach.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a week and she hasn't replied to me

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<v Speaker 2>at all. WHOA am I the asshole for casting doubt

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<v Speaker 2>over her anxiety forward slash telling her that she's not

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<v Speaker 2>being a good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sick of people using anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>It is kind of like me getting sick of people

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<v Speaker 2>using partners yea, as I get out of y your

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<v Speaker 2>free card, I am understanding, but at some point I

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<v Speaker 2>have to draw a line in the sand. She has

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<v Speaker 2>canceled on me four times in the last month. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I also think they're getting a boyfriend to cancel for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Was particularly pathetic. Am I being too hush? Fle see

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<v Speaker 2>me with your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>As someone who spent a few of my formative years

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<v Speaker 4>being the friend to always broach the tough conversation. The

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<v Speaker 4>thing they don't tell you is you're often told that

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<v Speaker 4>if you do the hard thing right, like if you

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<v Speaker 4>leave with the hard conversation, if you be the bigger person,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll get the outcome you want. Often that is not

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<v Speaker 4>the case, and so the first thing that I caution

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<v Speaker 4>people not to do is to assume that you doing

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<v Speaker 4>the mature thing or the open thing is going to

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<v Speaker 4>get you the outcome that you want, because you're already

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<v Speaker 4>dealing with someone who has showing you that they don't

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<v Speaker 4>have the capacity to be there for you when it's

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<v Speaker 4>quite easy, So when it's hard, you're almost asking for

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<v Speaker 4>too much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Another thing that I've been practicing recently is trying to

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<v Speaker 4>measure people's behavior relative to them and not to me.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're operating with someone who's already flaky, who

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<v Speaker 4>isn't too considerate of your needs and your emotions and how.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel, somebody who doesn't plan things un till the

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<v Speaker 1>day before.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, then are you really going to be Is

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<v Speaker 4>this someone that you can negotiate with in your time

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<v Speaker 4>of need.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you were the asshole, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's good to share the responsibility. A friendship is a partnership.

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<v Speaker 4>It requires both of you to put in. And it

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<v Speaker 4>seems like for a little while that you're putting in

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<v Speaker 4>the ingredients. You've brought, the pot, you've brought the stove,

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<v Speaker 4>you paid the gas bill, and they're like, hey, do

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<v Speaker 4>you mind stirring, And she's like, my boyfriend said, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Shielded, shielded.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you did the right thing, Caroline. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you really did. I agree with you so wholeheartedly. Flex

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<v Speaker 2>about kind of this person is at their capacity. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they cannot change. So I think Caroline, your message wasn't futile.

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<v Speaker 2>It had to be said because you need to get

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<v Speaker 2>your side of the story out there. And sometimes I think,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly if you have anxiety. In my experience with anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>your focus becomes very narrow.

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<v Speaker 1>You're focusing on you how you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't really in my experience, I don't think about

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<v Speaker 2>other people when I'm in that zone. And sometimes, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>you need a wake up call because if I got

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<v Speaker 2>this message and I was this chick, I might not

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<v Speaker 2>change my behavior because, as you said, I might be

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<v Speaker 2>at capacity, but it is a wake up call to think.

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<v Speaker 1>Other people do have feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>They may not be diagnosed with anxiety, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>you did the right thing. Don't expect her to change.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you guys need a little bit of time apart,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm glad you broach this topic. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to not broach it and then you just disappear out

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<v Speaker 2>of her life, she's gonna take your shit with that

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<v Speaker 2>as well, so you may as well say your peace

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<v Speaker 2>because you deserve it, and then wait until she's in

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<v Speaker 2>a better headspace because obviously you guys have had fun

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<v Speaker 2>before she's a madirs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do agree that the boyfriend reach out is

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<v Speaker 4>a bit pathetic in your own words, only because it

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<v Speaker 4>puts you in this weird position where you now have

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<v Speaker 4>to plead your case yes to uh what do you

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<v Speaker 4>call it, somebody figure? An intermediary mediator.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we're not to leave it alone.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you sick of talking about Barbie? Neither? So let's

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<v Speaker 4>do it again controversy this time. We don't like to

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<v Speaker 4>be contrarians for fun. We just find it really important

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<v Speaker 4>to bring both sides with the argument. As they say,

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<v Speaker 4>can I play Devil's Advocate?

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<v Speaker 1>What's it called? Like real news?

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<v Speaker 4>Like unfiltered depend So this time it's a story about BuzzFeed.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to BuzzFeed. Can't believe they're still a live

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<v Speaker 4>and kicking. Really impressed by that effort. And AI, what

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<v Speaker 4>do you think happens when you ask an AI program

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<v Speaker 4>to generate a barbie, like a physical manifestation of a

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<v Speaker 4>barbie representative of every country in the whole wide world.

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<v Speaker 4>So a barbie for Germany, a barbie for Ghana, a

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<v Speaker 4>barbie for poland a barbie for Singapore using just aggregated

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<v Speaker 4>data and information from the Internet. What do you think happens?

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<v Speaker 4>You get generated images that are full of prejudices and

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<v Speaker 4>stereotypes and like inherently racist imagery, also imagery that is

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<v Speaker 4>incorrect and not exactly true. Many of the Hispanic and

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<v Speaker 4>Latina barbies were whitewashed, so there were pictures being having

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<v Speaker 4>orange chair or having really fair complexions, right, or the

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<v Speaker 4>barbie from Russia was holding a gun.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, that'll do it. Also the barbie from South Sudan

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<v Speaker 4>was also holding a gun. You can imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>The more you go through.

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<v Speaker 4>You start to pick out the inconsistencies in this But

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<v Speaker 4>aside from the obvious issue with the content, about like

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<v Speaker 4>creating these representative figures that are going to exist on

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<v Speaker 4>the Internet for ages, considering how much press this movie

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<v Speaker 4>is getting, and imagine in a decade from now when

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<v Speaker 4>you look back and that is the representative of a

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<v Speaker 4>whole country. It's not good stuff. And who's meant to

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<v Speaker 4>challenge that narrative the people in the comments. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>not going to hold up. But it sparked this conversation

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<v Speaker 4>about bias in AI, which we talked a lot about.

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<v Speaker 1>This idea.

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<v Speaker 4>If AI is being programmed by humans, or at the

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<v Speaker 4>very least it's aggregating data from the Internet that exists

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<v Speaker 4>that humans built, then of course the information that it

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<v Speaker 4>garners is going to be inherently racist, inherently sexist, or

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<v Speaker 4>just built in the image of its creators, which is

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<v Speaker 4>generally a specific type of person, a white man. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not to say the white men at racist, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>through the lens of someone seeing the world in a

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<v Speaker 4>very specific way. So when you get to the outcome

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<v Speaker 4>of what this AI produces, people don't know who to blame.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it the AI. Is it just society? Is it

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<v Speaker 4>the creator of said AI program? Nobody knows. And also

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<v Speaker 4>the conversation kind of reaches Aholt because people are kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like, well, I mean, if it's getting the data

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<v Speaker 4>from the internet, stereotypes are real, aren't they Like they

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<v Speaker 4>got to come from somewhere. And so then the conversation

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<v Speaker 4>gets to be quite like straw manny in the sense

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, well, what if and what if and what

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<v Speaker 4>if and what if?

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like people.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, we's too soon to be having these discussions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too soon.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like we're literally in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hectic.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want to see the actual images of what

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking about, you can go the Instagram Impact Impact

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<v Speaker 4>and there's like huge carousels of like all the different barbies,

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<v Speaker 4>but also the commentary, which is really interesting. So go

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<v Speaker 4>do that and use this information for your next water

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<v Speaker 4>cooler chat.

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