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Speaker 1: now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Daily Ours. It's Monday, the thirty first of March. I'm

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Speaker 1: Harry Sekulic.

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Speaker 2: I'm Zara Seidler.

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Speaker 1: Australia is heading to the polls on the third of May.

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Speaker 1: The election is now officially underway to decide who will

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Speaker 1: the next PM, or will Peter Dutton become the first

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Speaker 1: leader to replace a one term prime minister in nearly

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Speaker 1: one hundred years. Today we'll tell you everything you need

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Speaker 3: Harry, I'm mostly excited about the fact that we don't

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so happy say that I have

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: It does truly feel like much of the political world

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Speaker 1: And May three will be nerd Christmas.

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Speaker 3: It will be It's usually budget but hey, now it

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Speaker 3: is election. Harry, I think a really good place to

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Speaker 3: Anthony Alberanezi traveled to the Governor General's house. He then

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Speaker 3: For someone that's listening to this podcast and doesn't really

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Speaker 3: And I mean that's such an important point to start

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Speaker 1: And even if you have voted before, if you are

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Speaker 2: Wake up and which state. Will you visit to tam exactly?

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Speaker 1: So, Zara, I might have to just tell you I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm quite remarkable, especially in the country.

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Speaker 1: It makes me appreciate the role of journalists in the

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Speaker 3: Now, Harry, I do just want to end with what

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Speaker 1: It's really anyone's game at this stage. The Poles are

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Speaker 1: At the start of this year it was looking like

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Speaker 1: So that's quite a mountain to climb for any opposition leader.

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Speaker 1: But as I said, the polls are looking quite tight.

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Speaker 1: There's every chance that Peter Dutton and the Coalition could

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Speaker 1: all part of democracy manifest Sarah, Yeah, sure is. And

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Speaker 1: can't wait to get started Zarape. This is so exciting,

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