WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Was that an orgasm or did you spasm?

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout

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<v Speaker 3>Hi guys and all, welcome back to another episode of

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<v Speaker 3>Life Uncut. I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and this is our

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<v Speaker 3>down and dirty, sexy, fun little Thursday episode where we.

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<v Speaker 2>Answer all your deep, dark and burning questions. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>still feel random?

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<v Speaker 1>But do you still feel even though we've been back

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<v Speaker 1>a few days from our Barley trip, Actually we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Been back a while. I feel like this weird jet lag,

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<v Speaker 2>but the time difference is only two hours? Like what

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<v Speaker 2>is is that actually jet lag? Or am I having

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<v Speaker 2>holiday withdrawls? I think it's a bit of both.

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<v Speaker 3>But also I'm like with you on the jet lag thing,

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<v Speaker 3>because like, Okay, if you normally wake up at six am,

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<v Speaker 3>you're now waking up at what is bally four am?

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's jet lag. That's fine, you can have it

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<v Speaker 3>with two hours. I think sometimes when the travel is

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<v Speaker 3>less time, the jet lag is more severe.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's a fact. No one quotas

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<v Speaker 2>on that. I've certainly done zero research.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do have two kids that are also jet

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<v Speaker 3>lagged because their sleep patterns since getting home is fucked

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<v Speaker 3>and it is not enjoyable for anyone, especially in my household.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is why I've had to just make you

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<v Speaker 1>your third cup of coffee for the day. I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to say it is five PM and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I've had three, but it's three and it's probably like

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<v Speaker 1>ten am.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's like two my eyeballs, but it's keeping me

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<v Speaker 3>feeling I'm feeling great.

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<v Speaker 2>This is exactly what I need in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>good at milk crothing very good, so many coffee. You

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<v Speaker 3>can put this on your resume as one of your

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<v Speaker 3>true skills. But let's get into what today's episode is

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<v Speaker 3>all about, and that is answering all of your questions.

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<v Speaker 2>We have been on break.

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<v Speaker 3>We have had so many questions come in, like hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>and thousands, and I'm sorry that we don't get a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to get back to or answer every single question.

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<v Speaker 3>We do have an amazing person who works in admin

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<v Speaker 3>now who goes through and actually replies to everyone, So

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<v Speaker 3>we guarantee that your messages have all been seen, but

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<v Speaker 3>we have picked out a few for today.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we do get into this, I want to just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about something I just read. So obviously, we've just

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<v Speaker 1>come home from holidays from overseas.

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<v Speaker 2>We've come back.

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<v Speaker 3>How long do you think we can talk about holidays

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<v Speaker 3>for before people people to start reviewing us and saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Laura and Brittany only ever talk about fucking holidays.

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<v Speaker 4>It's still.

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<v Speaker 2>All right three months later.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I just thought this was just for me, this

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<v Speaker 1>timing from the universe. I was like, maybe I need

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<v Speaker 1>to move somewhere else. Don't hate me, Laura, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I felt.

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<v Speaker 2>I read this article by.

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<v Speaker 1>Time Out magazine and I thought, great, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>pack up and move countries. Time Out magazine just did

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<v Speaker 1>a survey with about twenty thousand different people from all.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the world. That's fair few people. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've got twenty thousand people in a room, you

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<v Speaker 3>would be a big wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Put it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the results that came back about Sydney do not

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<v Speaker 1>instill a lot of confidence in me. It came back

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<v Speaker 1>that three quarters of people said Sydney was pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>the number one city in the world, like the worst

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<v Speaker 1>city in the world to make friends, like to meet

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<v Speaker 1>anybody new. They were saying that we weren't very nice

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<v Speaker 1>people and it wasn't easy. And I guess people all

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<v Speaker 1>in their clicks maybe like maybe it's hard to break

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<v Speaker 1>that barrier, but that many people have said it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a friendly city. On top of that, they've come back

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<v Speaker 1>as a loveless city.

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<v Speaker 2>They've said it is so hard to be single here.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this is people that have traveled from all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world and spend time here and spent times in

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<v Speaker 1>other countries. So they've said being single is fucking cooked,

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<v Speaker 1>Like don't go there, but you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Why I think Sydney is so hard for meeting new people.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also because we have no night life anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a third thing. There's no night life. That

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<v Speaker 2>was it. It was the second worst place in the

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<v Speaker 2>world for nightlife. So the first worst place in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't say which one is first, probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably somewhere like Antarctica. I would say that that probably

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<v Speaker 3>has a fucking bad night life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the North Pole.

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<v Speaker 3>What else is a terrible no, But I mean like

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<v Speaker 3>it makes sense, right, Like not that you need to

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<v Speaker 3>be drinking to make friends or anything like that, but

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<v Speaker 3>like going out being able to like have a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a boogie, have a party like that is where

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<v Speaker 3>so many best friends are made in bathrooms, or like

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<v Speaker 3>you meet new people, you change numbers whatever. Like think

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<v Speaker 3>about the amount of friends that you made when you're

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<v Speaker 3>in your twenties and you're going out and you're being

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<v Speaker 3>social versus the way that Sydney is set up down now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like you arranged to go for dinner with people

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<v Speaker 3>who you already have a foundation of friendship with.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely So now you can't go out, you can't make friends,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't fall in love.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's not ideal. But speaking of love, actually

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<v Speaker 2>I am going on to Day to Night with someone

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<v Speaker 2>from Sydney. Actually no, it's from England, but he lives

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney now.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am going on to Day to Night wish

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<v Speaker 1>we like, he's not from Australia. So this could be

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<v Speaker 1>a positive thing after hearing those results, because no Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>person will date you because they're already that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to open up their circle.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wasn't gonna go that. Foller it keep

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<v Speaker 2>me one down.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say one thing because I think, like

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<v Speaker 3>on this like little report that's been done, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that people who live in Sydney and like we obviously

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<v Speaker 3>are from Sydney, right, so this is this is definitely

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<v Speaker 3>not a Sydney based podcast in terms of like we

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<v Speaker 3>are open to all areas. It goes out all across

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<v Speaker 3>Australia and the world, but mostly you guys are from Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that people who live in Sydney think

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<v Speaker 3>that Sydney is the best place to live, whereas like

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<v Speaker 3>if you ask people in Melbourne, they will say that

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<v Speaker 3>Melbourne is the best place to live if.

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<v Speaker 2>You are there.

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<v Speaker 3>It is like a fucking rivalry. And every time I

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<v Speaker 3>have been to Melbourne or I have been to other

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<v Speaker 3>metropolitan cities in Australia, I'm always like, Wow, I think

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<v Speaker 3>they're a bit better than Sydney. Like, Melbourne is better.

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<v Speaker 3>It has so much culture, There is so much nice

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<v Speaker 3>stuff to do. It's just that it's so often raining

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<v Speaker 3>and cult not to like stereotype, but it is better.

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<v Speaker 1>No, But also it's not just Melbourneians. I think Melbourne's better.

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<v Speaker 2>The rest of the world also, I think we can

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<v Speaker 2>give that one to this. Also.

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<v Speaker 3>Adelaide freaking great, very underplated, small, its own country great,

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't even let people in during COVID because it was

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<v Speaker 3>so good they didn't want to. It has its own microclimate,

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<v Speaker 3>do you know. Okay, going back to this whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>that you're doing tonight, which is going on a date.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a whole weird thing that no one knows what

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<v Speaker 2>a date. Yeah, this very foreign concept that is called

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<v Speaker 2>a date.

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<v Speaker 3>I read something that I want to share with you

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<v Speaker 3>before we get into answering questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>It is trending on TikTok. It is TikTok also trending

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<v Speaker 3>across all news websites.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>So not only if you're not on TikTok, Like, if

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<v Speaker 3>you google this word, you will find it. You may

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<v Speaker 3>have even heard other people talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But we could collectively say it's trendy. It's a fucking thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I heard it thrown around a few times whilst

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<v Speaker 3>we were on holidays, and I put it into my

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<v Speaker 3>notes because I was like, I need to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you about this bread and that is vabbing?

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<v Speaker 2>Is are you saying vaping with an accent fort hey man, babing? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it like dabbing with a vape?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it is dabbing something though, dabbing your vagina the vaping, well,

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<v Speaker 3>dabbing or what you vagina?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean dabbing a vagina? How or you would do it?

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<v Speaker 2>You do anything else?

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<v Speaker 1>Do it?

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<v Speaker 3>This is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really great. I feel like we're playing a

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<v Speaker 2>game of charades now. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So for anyone who doesn't know, babbing is something that

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<v Speaker 3>has taken the world by storm. It currently has thirty

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<v Speaker 3>five point seven million views on TikTok, you need to

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<v Speaker 3>get out more because there.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a lot of conversations happening about babbing.

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<v Speaker 3>Vabbing is when you take your vaginal juices, knew it

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<v Speaker 3>was the vagina, and you dab it on your erogenous zone,

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<v Speaker 3>so like under your arms, you dab it on your neck,

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<v Speaker 3>you dab it on your wrists, and you use your

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<v Speaker 3>vaginal discharge as perfume.

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<v Speaker 2>Should I do this on my date tonight? See what happens?

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<v Speaker 3>So apparently it is like how you use your pheromones

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to attract the opposite sex. And there

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<v Speaker 3>are so many people doing it, and there are so

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<v Speaker 3>many people documenting their experiences with vabbing.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not want to walk around smelling people's vaginas

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<v Speaker 1>down the street like.

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<v Speaker 3>This, or you might be imagine if someone was doing

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<v Speaker 3>it and then they just gave you a hug and

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't know that they'd babb that morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no consent there, where's the line?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but it's like okay, So apparently, and you're to

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<v Speaker 3>think about it. Scientists have been trying to manufacture like

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<v Speaker 3>artificial chemical based pheromones for the better part of the

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<v Speaker 3>last three decades, right, Like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, Gwyneth Poultry did it with her candle, didn't she.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, no, I think they're actually smelled more like

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<v Speaker 3>petula oil or petula oil or whatever it whatever. Her

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<v Speaker 3>vagina smell like literally smell like dried flowers. No, so

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<v Speaker 3>like this is something that scientists have been trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do for a long time because there is so much

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<v Speaker 3>money to be made if you could create a bottled

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<v Speaker 3>version of what pheromones are.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess the thing is is that it happens

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<v Speaker 2>in the animal kingdom. Like dogs do it, I don't,

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<v Speaker 2>but cats do it. Who what other animals do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's about I'm sure loads monkeys. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that we kind of do it to some level. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, you might like your the smell

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<v Speaker 3>of your partner's bo, but not like the smell of

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<v Speaker 3>anyone else's bo.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a thing, right, Like I don't know that's a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt's bio doesn't smell bad to me, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>it smells bad to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, and you've just made me think of this,

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember my very first boyfriend. He was a builder,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's a stink at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>like ten hours in the sun sweaming. But I remember

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<v Speaker 1>I used to love it, like it used to do

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<v Speaker 1>things to me. But if you just walk past someone

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't know with the gym and you smell them,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, bro, go put some doughter on.

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<v Speaker 2>So apparently this is a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>There are hordes of women out there who are dabbing

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<v Speaker 3>their vaginal discharge onto their bodies in the hopes of

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<v Speaker 3>attracting men, and I might be I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Realize what the smell is in here?

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<v Speaker 4>You have tested this on me, having you absolutely not

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<v Speaker 4>there is nothing that I'm going to gain from doing

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<v Speaker 4>that in this environment whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what you're up to, Okay, but let me

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<v Speaker 2>just this is how I feel about this.

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<v Speaker 3>We already have to go to so much effort on dates,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you've gotta shave your legs, you've got to like

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<v Speaker 3>fix opening downstairs, you gotta like shave your under arms,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta do your hair, you gotta put makeup on.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so much effort that women have to go to

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<v Speaker 3>when they're going on dates, right, so this is just

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<v Speaker 3>one extra step. And then do you put your dab

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<v Speaker 3>on and then put perfume on or do you just

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<v Speaker 3>dab and go? You dab and go, You don't dab

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<v Speaker 3>spray and go. Because it covers up the dab. But

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<v Speaker 3>then what if you get there and you smell like

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<v Speaker 3>a vagina? Well, it's the point, that's the bat, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the whole point. What if you get there and you

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<v Speaker 3>smell like a vagina and your date looks at you

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<v Speaker 3>and goes you smell only like a vagina?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think I should try it tonight? I will.

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<v Speaker 3>I will pay you money to go on a date

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<v Speaker 3>and report back for the podcast. If I had to

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<v Speaker 3>go and get a vagina osonizer for content, you are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna dab and come back and report?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just say?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>One, you go and get the vagina osenizer. You were

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<v Speaker 2>like frothing at the bits to go and get that done.

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<v Speaker 2>You kept a segaret. You're like, this is gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Great. No, I did it purely for content, guys. I

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<v Speaker 3>did it for the greater good of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, well, look.

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<v Speaker 1>My date just message me right now, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see him and just tell me if you think

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<v Speaker 1>I should dab?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, here Brittany is showing me a photo.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what's happening. I'm getting a live viewing of

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<v Speaker 3>tonight's date.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I really like.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, he can zoom in there, he's done with the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like when somebody uses your name.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Should lab Dabby Brittany is vabbing tonight. That is, you

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<v Speaker 3>need to go calling a dabbing. You need to go

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<v Speaker 3>and dab some bab That is one boy. Hello, what

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<v Speaker 3>is his name?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Cue, I thought you cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmmm, Anyway, I'm not I don't think he's the right

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<v Speaker 1>person to trial the dam.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if anyone was gonna have a little hello.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh, I approve of this one. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>really approve of many. She never approves of many. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking forward to a live update.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be're in twenty fourteen. Now on his instagra, so

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<v Speaker 2>I like what. Alright, let's get into the questions for today.

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<v Speaker 3>First off the ranks, we have a very important one,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, question number one. Hi, guys, I've been in

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship with my partner for two years and we

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<v Speaker 3>have an amazing relationship. He's the first person I've ever

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<v Speaker 3>had sex with, and it's been great, at least I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So now, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>What it's like to orgasm, and there has been a

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<v Speaker 3>few times when I've spasmed, but I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 3>this means I've come What is it like for you?

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<v Speaker 3>And do you know if it's happened this? You can

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<v Speaker 3>take this one first bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see you giggling away over.

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually a very very good question and a

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<v Speaker 1>very fair question, and I think pretty common because maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't know, but not everyone can

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<v Speaker 1>orgasm like that is a thing. Even the people that

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<v Speaker 1>do orgasm orgasm very differently. Some do a literal like

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<v Speaker 1>external orgasm, some are an internal orgasm, and some people

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe Laura from our conversations, we both know

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<v Speaker 1>people in life that have an orgasm and not for

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<v Speaker 1>not want of trying, but they haven't got there. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually brilliant because we are going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a whole episode on orgasms very very soon. But in

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<v Speaker 1>answer to your question on on how do you know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've done it? I mean, and I can only

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<v Speaker 1>speak for myself because I've only orgasmed for myself, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it feels so good, like you know that

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<v Speaker 1>that is happening at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why I think the question is an interesting

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<v Speaker 3>one because for me, the sensation of having an orgasm

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<v Speaker 3>is so unmistakable that I one percent, no, I've had

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<v Speaker 3>an orgasm, and that is from the very first time

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<v Speaker 3>I ever had one, you know, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, this is an orgasm. Well, and some of

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<v Speaker 2>them get way.

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<v Speaker 1>Better, especially from the first time to the last time.

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<v Speaker 1>They get better. But like, yeah, you can't not when

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<v Speaker 1>it's happening. You can't not know what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I think when she says, no, I've definitely spasmed,

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know if that's an orgasm, what could

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<v Speaker 3>that be? Like maybe maybe this person who's writing in

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<v Speaker 3>is having orgasms or they're having a really heightened sense

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<v Speaker 3>of arousal. But maybe in their mind they think that

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<v Speaker 3>an orgasm is supposed to be this like transcending, toe curling, euphoric,

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<v Speaker 3>like I go, I fucking astral plane to another planet moment,

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe they can be, but maybe that's not what

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<v Speaker 3>their orgasms are because obviously every single person is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be different, and even though I think people experience

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<v Speaker 3>orgasms in a similar way, they definitely don't experience it

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<v Speaker 3>in the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is exactly right, And one thing I want

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<v Speaker 1>to add here is and all I'm gonna say is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely tune into the episode we're going to do because

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<v Speaker 1>we will ask all these questions and we will really

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<v Speaker 1>draw this out. But we've spoken to sa sologists in

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<v Speaker 1>the past that have said orgasms can be learned. They

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<v Speaker 1>can be something that you can teach yourself and your

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<v Speaker 1>partner and your body to improve or experience differently or

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<v Speaker 1>on different levels. So what Laurie just said could very

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<v Speaker 1>much be true. You could be having one, but you

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<v Speaker 1>could be very much stuck in your own mind thinking

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<v Speaker 1>is it happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this it? And my having it? Like what am

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<v Speaker 2>I experiencing?

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe you're not in that moment enough to enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>it and experience it and let go like this is

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<v Speaker 1>just I mean, we don't know. This is just a

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<v Speaker 1>thought process that if you find yourself thinking that at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, maybe try and just be really present in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment and really enjoy what is happening as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to like worrying if it's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I think, like on this and what you said

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<v Speaker 3>earlier brit about how there is clatorial orgasms and how

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<v Speaker 3>there is an internal orgasm, the type of intensity that

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<v Speaker 3>you can get from different types of orgasms, is like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's something that plays and factors in like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people will only orgasm if there's external stimulation.

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<v Speaker 1>Way you are waving those two fingers around, Laura, you

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<v Speaker 1>are waving two things.

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<v Speaker 3>External stimulations.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I talk with my hands, but I guess the thing

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<v Speaker 3>is that from what we've learned from the interviews we've

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<v Speaker 3>done in the past with sex ologists Chantleotten and also

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<v Speaker 3>sex ologists Juliet Allen, internal orgasms that are achieved from

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<v Speaker 3>internal stimulation can be far, like far more intense than

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<v Speaker 3>an external one.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also and also on top.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that, Laura, before you go on, is that they

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<v Speaker 1>can literally on top of it, jumping on top of

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<v Speaker 1>you as you wave those things around to.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa babbing this morning? I don't wait, No.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing is like, yes, internal can be

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<v Speaker 1>different to external, but also when they're combined, they can

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<v Speaker 1>be different as well. So if they're happening at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time you're having penetrative sex, something's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>a clitters simultaneously and they're together, that can be different. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>So there are just so many there's not a one

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<v Speaker 1>size fits all well.

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<v Speaker 3>To round out this question, I did do a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of research on this, not physical research.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, I do just once, can you make me orgasm

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<v Speaker 1>so I can see what it's like to tell me

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<v Speaker 1>I needs to explain to people what my orgasms feel like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, this has got nothing to do with my personal experience,

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<v Speaker 3>but this is a bit of information around and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a very common question, like how do I know if

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<v Speaker 3>I've had an orgasm? Okay, so the idea of an

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<v Speaker 3>orgasm is supposed to be the relief of pressure. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you've gotten to a point where you're so sexually

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<v Speaker 3>aroused that you have this intense feeling and then the

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<v Speaker 3>orgasm is like a feeling of completeness, like something has

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<v Speaker 3>been done, do you know what I mean? So, if

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<v Speaker 3>you have had this spasm, as you describe it, and

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<v Speaker 3>then afterwards you're like, ah, I feel satisfied now, like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of I'm kind of done. I need not

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily a break, but like there's a calmness that comes afterwards.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that is an orgasm. And I think that for

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people, especially if you don't feel it

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<v Speaker 3>to the same level of intensity as what a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people do so like for you r Eyebrit, we

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<v Speaker 3>undeniably know when it's happened, like we're like, yes, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what that was cool, I'm done now, or if you

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, i'mlike you breath. You like to go for multiples,

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<v Speaker 3>but if I've had one, I'm wham bam, thank you, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm finished. But I think if you have a level

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<v Speaker 3>of satisfaction that comes after you've had this spasm or

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<v Speaker 3>however you describe it could be like this is how

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<v Speaker 3>it's described in this I'm going to read this for you.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no one way or one size fits all

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to orgasms. So the dumbness, like this

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<v Speaker 3>feeling of being done may be associated with vigorous muscle

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<v Speaker 3>jerking or very quiet shivers or just a funny tiredness

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<v Speaker 3>after sex. Also, so this could range from anything like

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<v Speaker 3>the full on, all intense body experience of like yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that was levitating, levitat astro plained, or it could be

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<v Speaker 3>something that is like a far more subtile experience. And

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<v Speaker 3>that is simply because everybody is so incredibly different.

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<v Speaker 2>Question number two. Tune into our episode for the Sexologist.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we have someone on who's way better

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<v Speaker 3>equipped to on orgasms and also what we're trying. The

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<v Speaker 3>reason why we haven't got that episode completely finished yet

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<v Speaker 3>is that we're really wanting to speak to someone who

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<v Speaker 3>has never experienced an orgasm as well. So somebody who

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<v Speaker 3>has had an active, healthy sex life, has had multiple

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<v Speaker 3>sexual partners, but just hasn't experienced an orgasm, and how

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<v Speaker 3>that impacts their like, how that impacts their relationships, how

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<v Speaker 3>it impacts their sex life, how it impacts the way

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<v Speaker 3>that they communicate with their partners, so that we can

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<v Speaker 3>give a really sort of full rounded context to that episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm coming in with question them A two. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like my engagement ring. Okay, guys, my penguin partner

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<v Speaker 1>of ten plus years recently finally surprised me with the proposal.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, ten years you've put in the effort, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>Ten years is a long time. I was at a

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<v Speaker 1>point where I thought this would never happen, as we

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<v Speaker 1>always prioritize other things over the years, example holidays, house maybes,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a toddler and another on the way. But

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<v Speaker 1>he recently went out by himself and chose a ring

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<v Speaker 1>design sourced a diamond with the jeweler and surprised me.

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<v Speaker 1>The thoughtfulness behind this I am so grateful for and

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<v Speaker 1>it really demonstrates his personality traits that I love so much. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I was slightly underwhelmed by his choice. Having been interested

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<v Speaker 1>in fine jewelry for a while now, I know a

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<v Speaker 1>bit about diamonds, and let's just say I would have

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<v Speaker 1>put a bit more priority on carrot size rather than

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<v Speaker 1>the best colored diamond within the budget that he spent.

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<v Speaker 1>I sat on this for a few weeks and finally

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<v Speaker 1>told him and asked him how he would feel if

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<v Speaker 1>I investigated a different diamond choice. I love the design,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to see what options there were for

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger center stone within his budget. Curiosity just got

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<v Speaker 1>the better of me and I couldn't stop thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I felt the need to be honest with him,

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<v Speaker 1>especially since I will be wearing this ring for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of my life. But he has been really hurt

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<v Speaker 1>by this comment ever since, which has made me feel

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<v Speaker 1>terrible and ungrateful.

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<v Speaker 2>Have I done the wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing by being honest with him on his engagement ring choice. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really hard one, and I see why he's

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<v Speaker 1>hurt for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely see why he's hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>But as someone okay, as someone who is a jeweler

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<v Speaker 3>like that, that's my job for anyone who doesn't know

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<v Speaker 3>hashtag Tony may. So if anyone who wants to get

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<v Speaker 3>an engage ring designed, I'm here, I'm waiting, I'm available.

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<v Speaker 2>Not officially sponsored. So I got nothing from that, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is so much even if it might seem thoughtless.

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<v Speaker 3>So even if to you you're like, this is not

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<v Speaker 3>my style, I don't like this normally, and typically when

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<v Speaker 3>someone proposes, there is still a lot of thought that

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of like a lot of time and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of pressure and a lot of emotion that's

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<v Speaker 3>gone into that choice or the choice of that ring

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<v Speaker 3>by your partner. Sometimes people get it wrong, like they

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<v Speaker 3>just do. Sometimes they're not attuned with the clues or

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<v Speaker 3>with your style.

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<v Speaker 1>He's only had ten years to think about.

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<v Speaker 3>It totally, and they purchase something that they like, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're not really necessarily thinking like what is it that

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<v Speaker 3>you like? You know, but at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>ninety nine point nine percent of the time they have

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<v Speaker 3>put so much effort into finding that ring. So there

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<v Speaker 3>is a bit of an ego bruise that comes with

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<v Speaker 3>finding out that your partner didn't like it because intentionally

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<v Speaker 3>they've tried to do the best thing by you. So

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<v Speaker 3>I any time that I've ever had it's only happened twice.

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<v Speaker 3>So in all the engagement rings I've ever designed created,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had two people come to me and say, my

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<v Speaker 3>partner doesn't like it. Or even better, I once had

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<v Speaker 3>had a guy halfway through the process the ring was

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<v Speaker 3>almost finished. He said, fuck, my girlfriend has just sent

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<v Speaker 3>me some photos of rings that she likes and it's

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<v Speaker 3>completely different to the ring that we're making.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what can we do? Like, sometimes people get it wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>You haven't done anything wrong by voicing the way that

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<v Speaker 3>you feel, but you do have to have the sensitivity

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<v Speaker 3>that of course his feelings are hurt, and that's also okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and probably for him he probably feels like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 3>ruined the proposal a little bit because your reaction wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>just like, I'm so happy, I love the ring, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to marry you. Your reaction was I want to

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<v Speaker 3>marry you and I hate this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think no, I think her reaction was I

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<v Speaker 1>want to marry I'm so happy, And it was a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks later that she was like, Okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to put this on my hand and look at

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<v Speaker 1>it for the rest of eternity.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to say something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm trying to put myself in a situation

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<v Speaker 1>which I've never really come close to, and I probably

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<v Speaker 1>won't get a long time. So it's a look like

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<v Speaker 1>I act, So I'm just gonna try and imagine it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I would also say something if I

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<v Speaker 1>detested the ring that much, but I would have to

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<v Speaker 1>really dislike it. I think he's just at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. Of course, he's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>bit hurt that he didn't just nail it like one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. He didn't come in with the goods and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like this beautiful, happy ending. Obviously, the

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<v Speaker 1>part of them is like, well, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't fun good enough in this moment. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think if you explain it and just say exactly that,

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<v Speaker 1>just say I am so over the moon that I

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<v Speaker 1>get to to marry you and spend my life with you,

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<v Speaker 1>is like there is no doubt about that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just this isn't one hundred percent my style, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have to wear it forever. So if we could

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe tweak it a little bit, this would be brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's do it together, So like take him on

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<v Speaker 1>the journey with you, so you can go and source

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<v Speaker 1>the new style together. You can pick it together, so

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<v Speaker 1>he still feels like he has an input and a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be my suggestion in this. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think that he has to have an input

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<v Speaker 3>and it has to be something that's done collaboratively. The

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<v Speaker 3>only thing that I I mean, I have definitely seen

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<v Speaker 3>this and experience this before. But like if he says, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want you to change the ring because that's

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<v Speaker 3>the ring I propose to you with, I do feel

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<v Speaker 3>that there comes a point where you kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>have to accept that, like that is that is how

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<v Speaker 3>he feels about it. You can't you can't make him

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<v Speaker 3>be okay with it right now, I'd be.

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<v Speaker 2>Drawing up the divorce papers. But you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't make someone so like if he was like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I designed that, and I really want that to be

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<v Speaker 3>the wedding ring, like that to be your engagement ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Which would be weird. It would be a weird, way weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Fle but I've definitely seen it happen really yes, like

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<v Speaker 3>my ring or nothing like well like this is it

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<v Speaker 3>as in like I don't want you to change it,

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<v Speaker 3>because then it loses the sentiment from the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>that's the ring I propose with it's no longer that ring,

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 3>and so like, people become really attached to objects, and

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that that is something that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people feel, even if it's not my style. They become

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<v Speaker 3>attached to the meaning that it represents. So they don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to fuck with that because then they think it's gonna,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, tarnish whatever it was that the proposal was.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I think you can also do is be

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<v Speaker 3>like cool, when it's our one year anniversary or when

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<v Speaker 3>it's out whatever whatever big milestone that you have, or

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to the engagement ring, then you get

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 3>all the same. You clearly like I need I need

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 3>a ten year ring, and that's going to then turn

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<v Speaker 3>into my.

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<v Speaker 1>Web where else Again, Now when you're anniversary, let's melt

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<v Speaker 1>that bad boy down and redesign something else.

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<v Speaker 3>But also like, at the end of the day, he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be hurt, but he's gonna want you to

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<v Speaker 3>wear something that you love.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to flex and say it's the ring

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<v Speaker 1>or nothing, or I'm leaving like he's and yes, okay,

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be hurt. Normal, you can design it together.

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<v Speaker 1>You can create something you love together. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that will be a very normal progression. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be an ask on cut aftermath. Please please

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<v Speaker 1>write back in and tell us what happens with this,

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>because I'm not going to sleep until I find out.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well here's the other thing, though, What is more

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 3>important wearing a ring that you don't love or his feelings?

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 2>The rings?

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<v Speaker 3>Just a trick question, but it's serious, Like, if he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be that hurt by it, keep it also,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, come on, growing, you're right, all right?

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Question number three. My husband and our two little girls,

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<v Speaker 3>who are three and five, and I were recently on

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<v Speaker 3>holidays in Thailand. We were on a boat trip and

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<v Speaker 3>some young backpackers boarded the boat. I'm talking maybe seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen years old, living their best lives in bikinis. Amazing

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 3>for them. I love that for them where going Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>insta yeah, but this is a bit more okay. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>my husband loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>For them too.

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<v Speaker 3>I know everyone looks and that's fine, but what I

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 3>saw him do really feels absolutely not fine with me.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 3>When the girls walked past, I saw him staring right

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 3>at their crotch, and the look on his face gave

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<v Speaker 3>me the absolute fucking dick. He zeroed in on all

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 3>of their crotches as they walked past. It was unmistakable,

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 3>and I can't get past it. I already had a

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 3>bad feeling about him, to be honest, and now I

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 3>feel even more like I don't trust him. I guess

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 3>my question is how common do you think this is?

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Do all men do this? Or is my husband a

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<v Speaker 2>complete creep? What I can say is this is a

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I didn't pre read that question, so this

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 2>is point coming in. Brittany did a research, she really prepped,

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<v Speaker 2>not this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm pulling the mine drew up off the ground

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>right now. The first thing that jumps out at me,

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and that is that you said and I don't think

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.959
<v Speaker 1>this is ever a sentence that should be said. I

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have a good feeling about my husband. I never

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>have like that to me, I feel like when you

0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 1>are choosing a life partner, you have a good.

0:27:59.080 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Feeling about them.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's definitely an underlying alarm bell theear for me

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that where there's something has happened with you guys in

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the past that obviously we don't know that, but maybe

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>something has set you on that track.

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Or maybe this is.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Just that guttural, deep instinct that as women is built

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>into us, that sometimes you just feel like something isn't right.

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>But I think that I think that that sentence I

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 1>always got a bad feeling kind of a thing. I

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think that sentiment belongs in a sentence with your husband.

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm jumping in hot on this one. And this

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 3>to me is a fucking huge red flag.

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Ye.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 3>And yes, sure, people, Look, it's okay to appreciate beautiful people,

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 3>that is fine. Is it okay to predatory stare at

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 3>another woman's crotch, especially like no woman, I was gonna say,

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 3>especially a young girl, literally, no woman, like no one,

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 3>no one. There is a appreciating beauty. There's a oh,

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>that girl's really attractive. There's a hey, I'd like to

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 3>tap that, and then there's a I'm not even taking

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 3>into account the person's face, but I'm like staring at

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 3>them in a way that is like wildly predatory. And

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 3>that's what I got from this question. And there is

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 3>a reason why you feel the way that you feel,

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 3>and there is a reason why it's made you as

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable as it's made you. I think think that there's

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<v Speaker 3>something about this question that gave me the instant dick.

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 3>I can telp a your physical reaction.

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Brit that it gave you the ick.

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 3>And I think it's really important to draw aligned in

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 3>the sand with this. It's not normal for men to

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 3>perv like that. Matt he checks out other hot chicks.

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm so fine with it. He will appreciate beauty.

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Usually he'll be like, oh, that girl's really beautiful.

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 3>I feel included in that he doesn't do it in

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 3>a way that makes me feel uncomfortable. And the fact

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 3>that your husband around your two children and you felt

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 3>like it was okay to view somebody else but in

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 3>a way that was actually just like so explicit, I

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 3>think is quite problematic and not something that is normal.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 3>So I don't want anyone to think like, oh, it's fine,

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 3>my boyfriend was totally starring at that chicks.

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Boobs, Like I'm okay with it. Yeah, And also I'm

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna hone in on this one too. It is very,

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>very normal to check.

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Out other people, like at any point in a relationship,

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>not in a relationship.

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 2>It's human nature.

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>You're always going to look at someone and appreciate them

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>or be like, damn, they look really cute, they're really beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>they're hot, whatever it is in your vocabulary. But this

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<v Speaker 1>should be something that there's no more thought to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an appreciation from afar. It's a respectful appreciation, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an appreciation that happens in front of your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in a relationship, if I see a hot guy

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<v Speaker 1>down the beach, I'm gonna in my head, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I don't think anything of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a subconscious thought because it is literally in building us.

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<v Speaker 1>We've spoken to psychologists about it. We've spoken to sex therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that is built into humans to see

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<v Speaker 1>something and without even thinking it. Like if you've just

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<v Speaker 1>looked at something without even thinking it, you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>she's really pretty, he's really beautiful. It shouldn't be to

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<v Speaker 1>the detriment of your relationship. It shouldn't be to you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be feeling bad in a relationship that your partner's

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, and like you said, Laura, if they are

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it, Jordan and I used to do

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<v Speaker 1>it for sure, but we would also everyone would know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just said, would be inclusive. Wouldn't be like,

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<v Speaker 1>look how hot that guy is, but I'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that dance player is really attractive. Like I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that to him and he'd be like, yeah, Rue loves him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there were comments like, there'd be comments like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a very inclusive like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but even I mean you also of course you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not saying like that it's normal to be

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<v Speaker 3>like that guy's really hot, Like if Matt, if we

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<v Speaker 3>were walking down the street and Matt was like that

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<v Speaker 3>chick's really hot and said it, I would be like, mate,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty fucking head in likelock no, But like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's more I guess, Like what I'm trying to say

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<v Speaker 3>is is that there's a reason why you feel the

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<v Speaker 3>level of insecurity and the feeling of like something isn't

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<v Speaker 3>right here, and that's because this behavior truly isn't right.

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<v Speaker 3>If this was me and I was in this situation,

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<v Speaker 3>what's my advice, Like, what do you do when you're

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<v Speaker 3>married and you have two children.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I would absolutely be raising it with him, be saying like,

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<v Speaker 3>this happened, this is what I saw, and this made

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<v Speaker 3>me feel really really uncomfortable, and explaining why give your

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<v Speaker 3>partner the benefit of the doubt, which I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>that he deserves it in this instance, but like, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't realize how overt or what he was doing,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe he needs to be pulled up on his

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<v Speaker 3>behavior and hopefully he himself feels a bit mortified and

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<v Speaker 3>disgusted in himself if he's made aware of it and

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<v Speaker 3>how obvious it was as well. Now, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really feel like it's something that somebody needs

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<v Speaker 3>the benefit of the doubt on.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's really terrible behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think some sort of conversation needs to

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<v Speaker 3>happen here, because we're not going to sit here and

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<v Speaker 3>tell you to just throw away your marriage and your

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<v Speaker 3>husband and.

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<v Speaker 2>Your happy life together.

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<v Speaker 3>But if there's something that's made you feel this level

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<v Speaker 3>of insecure, this level of the ick, and it is

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<v Speaker 3>completely related to his behavior and the things that he

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<v Speaker 3>does that make you feel like he's not trustworthy, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to communicate this with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, good Luck.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, you can't like this can't be avoided because you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the ick. And once you've got the ick in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship like you need to confront that or deal

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<v Speaker 1>with it in some capacity because you can't live forever

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<v Speaker 1>with the ick.

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<v Speaker 2>It just will fester and only get worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, consume good Luck's all back conversation.

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