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Speaker 1: to whereever you're listening today.

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Speaker 2: This is Clearzy Lisa's podcast.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the podcast Look, we caught up with

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Speaker 1: Emma Booth, Australian actress model from Paper Dolls.

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Speaker 2: Ben O'Shea reviews bottom stuff. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure why Dave Grohl needs a sign so

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Speaker 1: he doesn't swear on stage. Be big swear Joe, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 2: Ah, He's a bit sweary.

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Speaker 3: This looks very intriguing for anyone who lived through this

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Speaker 3: period of time. Paper Dolls begins on Sunday on Paramount

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Speaker 3: It Stars Wa Zone Emma Booth, Good morning, Emma, Hello,

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Speaker 3: Hi guys.

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Speaker 2: Emma.

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Speaker 3: The trailer for Paper Dolls is giving us very much

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Speaker 3: bardo on pop Stars Vibes. Tell us you know just

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Speaker 3: quickly what the show is about and about your character, Margo.

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Speaker 4: Paper Dolls is about the rise and fall of a

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Speaker 4: popular girl band in the year two thousand and I

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Speaker 4: play Margot Murray. So she's the publicity director and she's

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Speaker 4: really balls, the career driven woman who's basically trying to

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Speaker 4: make it in a man's world. But you know, it's

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Speaker 4: kind of an exploration of power and to kind of

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Speaker 4: look at the undercurrent of the music industry at that time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and what a strange time it was. So this

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Speaker 1: is actually based on the concept from Belinda Chappel who

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Speaker 1: was in Bardo and I've heard a podcast recently with

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Speaker 1: Belinda in and that group had everything. They had, a

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Speaker 1: thief in the bandy, a jealousy, they had betrayal. That

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Speaker 1: sounds like a show.

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Speaker 4: Oh you need the drama. It's all about the drama,

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Speaker 4: and this show is very, very dramatic, so you're going

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Speaker 4: to get a lot of that.

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Speaker 3: An all female team has created the show, and I

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Speaker 3: imagine you know, when you mentioned it, it's a girl

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Speaker 3: band in the year two thousand. It must shed a

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Speaker 3: light on the darker pre me to era for women

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Speaker 3: in the music industry.

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Speaker 2: That was some of the worst times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh absolutely, I know. So things are obviously very

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Speaker 4: different these days, but back then it was like, you know,

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Speaker 4: table and to be seen as an equal. So it's

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Speaker 4: really interesting we really get to explore that in this show,

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Speaker 4: which is you know, it's quite confronting.

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Speaker 3: And for the girls in the band, So that you

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Speaker 3: know themselves, so there's no doubt we knew at the

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Speaker 3: time these people were being exploited. Now when you look

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Speaker 3: back on it, it's it's it's uncomfortable. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: just read Britney Spears book for example, the whole I

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Speaker 2: I was curious. I had to have a look. It

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Speaker 2: won't take you long.

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Speaker 4: It's a quick rate.

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Speaker 2: It is a pretty quick a big fight.

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Speaker 4: So I'm sure I'll actually love it. I love it

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Speaker 4: and I'm going to go, I'm go get a coffee now.

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating.

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Speaker 3: It is fascinating, But it was it was a an

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Speaker 3: unc you know. To look back on it and uncomfortable time.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, you know. And to be honest, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: it still exists now. It's not completely gone, the media

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Speaker 4: movement very much. Yeah, you know, it's it's still there.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's this show really kind of explores that,

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Speaker 4: you know, the suppression and the abuse of power that

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Speaker 5: We're young, Yeah, that's right, and vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: There are so many yeah, I mean rock and rolls

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, you know, it's like signing your life away

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Speaker 4: and also your identity, you know, kind of like you

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Speaker 4: it's just a really confronting thing. So but that's when

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Speaker 4: my I think my character is a bit of a

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Speaker 4: I said, okay, this looks great. When are they shooting it?

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Speaker 4: so it was a really long casting process, I think

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Speaker 4: five months oh wow to find the girls. But then

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Speaker 5: It's more round us completely completely.

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Speaker 4: I mean I say, when often started a real band, now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what pop songs? Do you have a soft spot for?

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Speaker 5: You for your mind, yours will follow my head.

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Speaker 1: That there's a show sort of head towards focusing when

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Speaker 4: Oh, look, it is briefly touched on, because you know,

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Speaker 3: So you live in Florida now, which is quite different

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Speaker 4: It is, but you know, I was modeling from fifteen

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Speaker 2: That was, I believe, a very fun time to be alive.

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Speaker 2: How do you know, she said, so, what happened in

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Speaker 3: she said it was a happening the city thousands.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he really was, Like so many models came from

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Speaker 4: mom found the photos. Yeah, and it was just it

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Speaker 3: going skiing in Japan. Okay, Yeah, nice for your half

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I hope the birth you didn't get out

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about improvising and acting for a moment?

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Speaker 4: Just room Billy, really random. Yeah, he's amazing in general

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Speaker 4: That's kind of where that came from.

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Speaker 5: It does, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Billy then was going on this same Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: am miss much about you miss much about about home?

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Speaker 5: What about Perth? What about the West?

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Speaker 4: Look? I missed my family and missing down south southwestern

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Speaker 3: You come back to Perth way go, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: This there's something about the light.

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Speaker 2: That's so true.

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Speaker 4: That's so true there really is. It's a very special

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Speaker 4: just it's a very spiritual place for me. Beautiful certainly

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Speaker 3: Well, we're getting the wind up because you have a

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Speaker 3: very busy day. But Paper Dolls starts on Paramount on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Emma plays a total boss and I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 3: watching it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Emma bar Channel.

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you guys, and yeah, and enjoy you. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure you'll love the show. It's really fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 4: Worries, Worries, you have a great day.

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Speaker 2: More Lisa more Podcasts.

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Speaker 5: Today is November thirty.

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Speaker 1: It's a date that a lot of Fleetwood mac fans

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Speaker 1: will remember because a year ago today we lost that

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Speaker 3: I can't well, I can actually this year has gone

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Speaker 5: Ye, Look, we lost year is so missed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we lost that beautiful voice, that voice, her songwriting

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Speaker 3: Can see it all right, Well, how many first rule

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Speaker 7: How are you giving I'm going to give this four.

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Speaker 7: It's a ripper. By the way, you did mention tit

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