1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hello, Katie Wolvan three point sixty online at Mix one 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: O four nine dot com. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: Well, quite a few messages slowing through Following on from 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: that interview with the opposition leader Leofanochiaro, I've got one here. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: It says, Katie, could you please ask Lea how it's 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: possible for Gunner to stop the opposition or others from 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: asking pertinent questions that Territorians are entitled to have answered. 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Labor We're elected by territorians, says that text. Another one 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: here it says, Hi Katie, how dare the government continue 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: to hide and refuse to answer questions? Our debt is 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: ridiculous and frightening. Their motto of keeping Territorians safe is 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: going to come back to bite them. I ask who 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: is going to keep Territorians safe from Gunner? 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: Says this texter? Where is the administrator? 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: Another one here from Mark in Twee and it says, Hi, Katie, 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: My understanding is the IKAK is an extension of the 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: government's transparency. Therefore their report should be made public without 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: whistleblower names. Otherwise we're not getting value for money. That 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: one there from Mark in Tewee and look, I actually 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: think you know that whistleblowers do reserve the right to 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: remain anonymous. That is the you know, that's the very 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: thinking behind being a whistleblower. And if we get to 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: a point where a journalist is forced to disclose their 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 2: source to a story, and in my opinion, that story 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: yesterday in the Northern Territory News about the IKAK about 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: an investigation happening into the i CAAC and and you know, 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: it's by the sounds of things, they've disclosed their conflicts 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: of interests and done everything above board. But you know, 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: in my opinion, if you cannot if a whistleblower is 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: not able to actually you know, say that something like 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: this is happening, then it really makes you question how 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: on earth you know, we're going to bring some of 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: these issues to the fore. So look, I'm you know, 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm intrigued to see exactly where that all lands. But 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: I do not think that it's appropriate for a journalist 36 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: to have to disclose their source. You know, obviously, at 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: the end of the day, we go to great lengths 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: to make sure that we keep everything above board and 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: do everything adequately. We as journalists have to adhere to 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: our own code of ethics. And you know, yeah, I 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: just think that it would be a ridiculous situation if 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: we then, you know, have whistleblowers identified. 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: Another message here, it says, good morning, Katie. 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to book for a COVID VACS age eighteen 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: to forty nine in the Darwin region and there are 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: currently no clinics accepting bookings. So this is on the 47 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: government website and this person says, do you know if 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: this is due to a shortage in the vaccination. 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: That's a very good question. 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: My producer, Ronnie has just been online to see if 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 2: she's able to book and she can't. I've just done 52 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: exactly the same thing during the ad break and can't either. 53 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: I know that there are still some locations where you 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: can book in for the vaccine, but when you go 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: through that government website, it says the request is blocked 56 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: when you get to the point of trying to book 57 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: a vaccine if you're in that age bracket. So I'm 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: not sure whether this means that we are short of 59 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: vaccine or exactly what's going on. But Ronnie is following 60 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 2: that up with the Health Department and with the Minister's 61 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: office to see if we can get some clarification. Now 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: let's move along because we know that police are investigating 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: the cause of a fire that erupted in a car 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: park beneath a unit complex in the Darwin suburb of 65 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: Larichia early this morning. Joining us on the line to 66 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: tell us a little bit more is the NT Fire 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: Ey's Deputy Chief Fire Officer, Joshua Fisher. 68 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Josh, Good morning Katie, Josh. What 69 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: happened overnight? 70 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: So emergency services were made aware of a fire in 71 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Murka Court, Larakair at approximately twelve minutes past three this morning. 72 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: There were multiple course Stripple zero reporting sounds of an 73 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: explosion and smoke coming from a car park below a 74 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: multi story unit complex. Firefighters were assisting Saint John Ambulance 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: with a medical incident nearby in Beagle Street, Larakiir and 76 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: arrived in Murker Cort approximately three minutes later to find 77 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: smoke and flames coming from the car park. This incident 78 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: was quite distressing for those residents within a unit complex 79 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: who were trapped, including young children within their units, by 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: the thick smoke as a result of the car on 81 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: fire and a blow car park. Residents reported to emergency 82 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: services that they were unable to leave their units or 83 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: did not know where their fire escape was located, and 84 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: approximately nine units were impacted by this fire, with residents 85 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: unable to leave until the fire was extinguished. Wow. There 86 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: was approximately thirteen firefighters from Darwin and Casarina who brought 87 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: the fire under control within about fifteen minutes wherein breathing apparatus, 88 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: and also managed the evacuation of approximately twenty residents when 89 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: it was safe to do so. Thankfully, there were no 90 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: reported injuries by residents or responding firefighters in Saint John 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Ambulance were not required to treat any patients. 92 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: Goodness me. 93 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: Just how extensive was this fire? Did it only impact 94 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: those cars in the car park down below or did 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: that damage sort of spread further. 96 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: We've got fire investigator there this morning assessing that scene 97 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: and determining the full extent of the damage. But what's 98 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: reported so far is a car has been fully involved 99 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: in that fire and subsequent damage as a result of 100 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: heat and smoke. So we're reporting that there is some 101 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: plumbing works under the building. There may even be some 102 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: heat stress damage done to the cement of that first 103 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: story of that building, So a little bit of extensive 104 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: damage there and the full extent we know and once 105 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: the fire investigation is. 106 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 2: Complete and Josh, were those residents able to return to 107 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: their homes? 108 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: Then later this morning. 109 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Not all residents were. Some were able to return back, 110 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: but residents directly above where that fire was have not 111 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: been able to at this point due to the extensive 112 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: damage to plumbing and also the smoke that has impacted 113 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: that uniticomplex. 114 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: So how many people haven't been able to return to 115 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: their homes? 116 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: I don't have the full details there in front of 117 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: me at this point, but at this time it's just 118 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: one unit complex that I'm aware of, Okay, but our 119 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: crews and a crime scene is still established there as 120 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: we work to determine the cause and the full extent 121 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: of the damage. 122 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that a full investigation is set to 123 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: get underway, But is there any idea at this point 124 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: whether it's been deliberately lead No? 125 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: Not, At this time we can't rule that out. The 126 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: fire investigation will determine the cause of that, so the 127 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: full details be known once we've completed that work. 128 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: And how long do you anticipate that that investigation will take. 129 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: The fire investigators there this morning, so they're working through 130 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: the steps and obviously hopefully working to cause determined the 131 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: cause of that fire. I'd anticipate that it would take 132 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: all of this morning to ascertain what we need to 133 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: from the scene, and then we'll work with the police 134 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: to determine the next steps. 135 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: And I'd imagine that that means that the residents of 136 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: that building aren't able to use their car park. 137 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: That's correct. While the crime scenes established with restricted movement 138 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: in that area. 139 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: But no injuries aside from that smoke inhalation, everybody did 140 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: remain safe, albeit quite scared by the sound of it. 141 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's correct. It was quite stressing for those members, 142 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: and our fire fighters do an incredible job protecting territorians, 143 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: and I would like to commend all of our members involved, 144 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: along with those residents of the complex who quickly raised 145 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: the alarm as well as followed the direction of emergency. 146 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: Services and Josh, no doubt they would have had to 147 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: work incredibly quickly because it is a quite highly populated 148 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: sort of area in the sense that there's other units 149 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: and things around as well, isn't there. 150 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: Oh exactly. There was a number of exposures that our 151 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: members had to protect, and thankfully they are in a 152 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: nearby street when the alarm was raised, assisting Saint John's 153 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: with a separate medical emergency, so we're able to get 154 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: our clients as quickly on scene, and with the support 155 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: of Casarina with their rescue tender as well as another 156 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: pumper a crews, you're able to get to work very 157 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: quickly suppress that fire and limit the damage, as well 158 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: as being able to accommodate all of those residents that 159 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: were reported to. 160 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: Be trapped, and so just very quickly because we have 161 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: got another we've got a minister waiting on the phone 162 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: line for us, but just very quickly. Was it a 163 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: situation where those residents inside the building had to be evacuated, 164 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: did they have to sort of did you need to 165 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: use cherry pickers or anything like that to get them 166 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: out or was it a situation where they were still 167 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: able to get out via the stairs. 168 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: No, they were able to get out via the stairs 169 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: once we were able to make clear that escape route, 170 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: I guess. In summary, this morning serves as an important 171 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: reminder as to how quickly fires can start and spread, 172 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: and the importance of having working smoke alarms and having 173 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: a written and well practiced home fire escape plan. You know, 174 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: it's really important that those fire escape plans are practiced 175 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: at least twice a year, that it's designed to suit 176 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: your home, and that it's talked about with everyone in 177 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: the house. It's really important that children, if they are 178 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: in the home, they're involved in the planning and practicing 179 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: of that escape so that they're more likely to get 180 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: out alive in the event of the house fire. 181 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: Well, Chief Fire Officer Joshua Fisher, we really appreciate your 182 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: time this morning. 183 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for speaking with us. 184 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: Thanks Katie,